Try it with the stock carb first, so you don’t have the wrong impression on the motor, when it just might be the Lectron. Plus, you can’t comment on the difference unless you try it both ways.

@thezoomguys385

5 ай бұрын

My '22 250RR was carbed pretty good out of the box, at least for my elevation. Haven't touched it, as it's fine.

@shorew3

5 ай бұрын

You will have to tinker more to set up a lectron any ways. Ride it- feel it- love it

@FamilyHomeComputer

5 ай бұрын

this channel is such a sham. I would't take a word of what he says with any weight.

The Betas are drop dead gorgeous. Keep up the great work!

I love my '22 Beta 300rr. I'm not good enough to warrant the race edition, but it lugs my old butt around anywhere I want it to go. The engine is smooth as silk. I've never had an issue with my suspension.

JD jet kits on these bikes are amazing. also be sure to reset the float height because stock it dumps fuel really easily when the bike tips over just a bit.

My boy had a 300rr he loved it..

Sweet. I did a Beta demo ride in 2022 and will be doing it again this May, 2024…. I did not get a chance to ride the 250rr cc last time, so really looking forward to your review. Keep up the great channel Kyle.

I do agree Kyle that I prefer the RR suspension as I ride mostly single track in woods, and have found the RE suspension too stiff. Although I did see some comment that they softened it this year. I also like the oil injection so I can hit a gas station and not have to carry oil. Again, looking forward to your input.

@jamesoso259

5 ай бұрын

lol all you have to do is re-valve and it would be a million times better than the crap on the rr

I bought that bike this fall, i really enjoy it. Love the motor! One tip is to remove the nut and just use the bolt on the steering stopper for better turning. The 24 model has updated radiators so the forks wont hit the rads even with the nuts removed!

I like the red/white/blue Beta’s with blue rims 🔥👍

I'd love to see a review on the Rieju bikes, specifically the MR Pro 300

Man that bike is pretty slick. I enjoy all your reviews and have learned a lot from you.

Kyle- As of 2023, from what I understand, Beta has softened the spec settings in the KYBs in the RE bikes- and they now have them front and back. I did ride a 2023 RE this past fall and can confirm that the stock settings are fairly plush, for the way I ride and the terrain I ride. Pre '23 bikes were much stiffer out of the box. I have a 250 RR myself and really like it in general, as the motor is so tractable and easy to use, plus it really pulls nicely off the bottom and thru the mid range. It's probably not the the fastest of all the 250s(in a drag race), but it's so easy to ride that it doesn't matter, especially in the woods. The bike has held up well for me so far in almost 90 hrs & hasn't required anything other than basic maintenance. I'd bet that most 300 riders (or certainly a lot of them) would find that the 250RR is more than enough for them.

@therealesky5041

5 ай бұрын

I recently picked up a 23’ 250 RE on run out sales And the I agree the suspension has changed I rode a buddys 2019 300 RE and that thing was like a rock compared to mine, The motor is super as well has that classic big bore 2 stroke sound and plenty of power from top to bottom with that angry 2 stroke power band I love the bikes map switch makes a big difference to the power and found it doesn’t want to pick up onto power band as harsh and send you upside down super good if your tired or just lazy and wanna cruise lol But I agree the stock carb DRINKS fuel I got about 100kms in 2.2 hours (mostly flat out stop and start wide rocky terrain) and on my way home I had to chuck it on reserve (never knew I threw fuel out of the over flow though) but will probably be upgrading to a lectron billitron so I would like to see Kyle test that on his beta. But if you can handle the god awful turning circle and air filter design The bike is a ripper and can’t recommend it enough

@oldan3933

5 ай бұрын

@@therealesky5041 I'm pretty sure they improved the turning radius for the 24 models

Just a heads up! Scammer contacted me saying I won a bike. Asked for personal info. Guys Kyle does the sweepstakes live. Stay safe. Kyle keep up the videos.

@keithdowning7104

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the warning! Glad you knew better.

The smartcarbs can still dump fuel, it just goes right into the crankcase instead of overflowing. You still need to turn off the petcock when traveling, or you can end up with a severely flooded engine.

@SmartCarbFuelSystems

4 ай бұрын

And that is why we stress not using the SmartCarb, or any carburetor for that matter, as a positive fuel shut-off. That's the petcock's job. Best to form the habit of rolling back in to the truck/trailer/van, shutting the fuel petcock off, and letting the bike idle for as long as it takes you to remove your helmet and gloves before killing the engine. That runs the bowl down a tiny bit without running it empty (not recommended). Then, before turning it back on at your next ride, fire it up first. Makes it easy👌

Forks. Left Compression. Right Rebound/Preload. (opposite to ktm :)

The new race edition has 2 spark plugs, at least on the 300.

Here waiting on the January bike giveaways hopefully in about 10 days 🤞

Looks like a really nice bike they've always been really good anyways. I think they're really going to be even better in the near future now that they have a pro motocross and pro Supercross team it's going to pump a lot of R&D into these bikes. I love to see that kind of enthusiasm in a company especially in this day and age. Third gear pinned forever ✊

Thank you for getting a Beta!! again, please if a dealer is close to you?? Try a Rieju MR-250-or-300 they are MORE than you think! or the od name

Couple of items to add. Turning radius has been improved as noted previously. The Keihin carb on the beta bikes with the proper chatting works amazing. A simple JD Jetting kit is all that is needed. If you want to get different performance parameters a smart carb also works very well. It lets you change elevation without having to re-jet. I would like to try the new race model with the lighter valving in the KYB fork and shock. My current 2021 beta 300rr has the stock suspension that has been revalved and now seems to work quite well for slower speed riding. Still not as plush as I would like when the speed picks up slightly. I am torn on what bike I might go to next, perhaps yet another beta or a Husqvarna te300 pro model. (Have not heard much positive about the BrakeTec stuff so the regular Te 300 would be frustrating).

@FamilyHomeComputer

5 ай бұрын

Bro, these bikes dont need JD jetting! Just use the proper jetts that come with the bike and tune it to what you like . JD jetting is a scam to sucker suckers like you.

I love the beta look

Beta! Right on! I got a XTrainer in September.

@ryanstewart1521

5 ай бұрын

Sweet!

Awesome bike bro!

Have to say I love the looks of the Beta bikes

I know it's going to be hard to find a place to ride it, but I do like seeing a beta! Just rode one a few weeks ago and was surprised how pleasant it was.

Sweet dude! Hopefully that is a fun bike for you. I’m about 100 miles north of you in Idaho and I’m planning a trip down to Southern Utah or Arizona in March. Not gonna be able to wait that long to go riding. We got a ton of snow up here too.

Previously owning a Beta 250RR 2016 and I can easily say that it is a good idea to try the bike out first with the stock jets. These engines run damn great with the stock jets year round, no mather the temperatur/weather. However, it can be a good idea to adjust the float level in the carb because it is usually a tad high and like to pee some fuel during transport to the track/woods. Now I own one 2018 KTM300Exc aswell as a 2022 Beta RR350, love them both. However, in my opinion both of these bikes needed quite some suspension upgrades, atleast for me running rough terrain and being quite a heavy guy. Keep up the good work, cheers from Sweden😊

With all of that snow you were talking about, might be kinda cool to see a timbersled conversion..

Its a great bike. Love mine. Had to mess with suspension settings to dial it in, but now its pretty plush. Carb is simple jetting and it runs great. I'm riding at 6,300' to 11,500' elevation. I get about 80 trail miles out of the one tank. Paid about 3k less than a ktm or husky and its pretty rad. Skid plate is awful get a new one on there asap. Tires do suck, DOT tires not the best for enduro trails. Glad to see a detailed review from a reputable channel! Enjoy!

Awesome bike Kyle! I think you should ride it completely stock and give us your thoughts and then to the upgrades.

The KYB on my 23 300 RE is plush as can be once you set the SAG for your weight and compression and rebound

Look for memory Stick. It's going to be your manual.

Excellent

Awesome bike Kyle ! Now where are you going to ride it during winter?

I’m an average hack rider and I loved the racing KYB suspension, to the point I’m looking at a 24 racing upgrade

Nice looking bike 👍👍

Great choice, nice to see something that is not orange. Beta comes with float heights too high and dump fuel when leaned over. First thing to do is adjust the float height. Otherwise stock jetting on mine was perfect.

It would be great to see you ride it as a stocker then make it a rocker. I'm pretty excited about this bike.

all the Beta two strokes come with a high float level. Need to adjust, really helps with the mpg as well

Great job Kyle, what’s your favorite tire set up for a mix of dirt, roots and sand? Also, could you come to my house and help me organize my garage? 😂

5 inches of snow, bugger that . 95 F where I am on the other side of the world. Bit hot for riding . Looking forward to the full test 👍🏻

I haven’t seen you with a 4t for a while. Maybe check out the Beta 390 - lots of people love it! Lol, just heard you say you did a 390 before so now I’m going to look for the video. How about a Ktm 350?

Considering this and a yz250x!

Best pet of the RE suspension is its KYB so can easily pick your poison for re-valving it for your weight and preference. I spent 4K to have my Sachs done including turning the 7mm stems down on a lathe to 6mm to install race tech gold valves, and essentially convert my rear shock over to a showa.

Hey always like your videos just curious about something Jeff slavens new video about sitting up suspension pre load don’t know if you have already set it up for you yet but being it’s fresh out the box be a good test if it’s best for a set and go and the numbers line up be good to hear your point of view as value your opinion as more relatable to average rider

Just to note that the race edition KYB suspension got much softer from 2022 onwards. They take some time to bed in but once they do they're incredibly plush. Had the 22RE currently have the 24RE.

@hesutton

5 ай бұрын

Agree 100%. Rode a bunch of Beta's at a 2024 Demo day. The Race Editions had much better suspension than the RR's.

Come down to Phoenix and we can help you get some riding time in

Hey Kyle, please do a review on the Fantic xe300

There are more performance differences between the RR and RE than you're describing. The Race Edition has a more aggressive ignition / CDI mapping and the heads are a different spec. Beta does not do a great job marketing those differences.

I love beta I have ✌️

Hey Kyle awesome videos I watch every one of them that I can! Say I've talked to my beta dealer and I've emailed beta few times and no one can seem to answer my question. I have a 2020 cross trainer. Have done all possible mods external of the engine and lastly I want to put a 300RX head on my xt. Do you know if that is possible? My dealer says just to get a 480 if I'm looking for horsepower but I want a 15% smaller high horsepower two-stroke cross trainer.

The problem from ZF-Suspension is not the function but the quality of the coating is not so fine. You could get havy wear after short time of using. Kind regards from Germany

I run lectron billitron on my yz and its fn dope

Great review, You can get the low boy in 1" lower as well. That rear and front tires are rubbish, the front will deflect off everything. You're right the RE has KYB suspention and is waaaay too stiff, almost MX stiff !! and needs $$$$ spent to set them up for enduro. Oh and the Nissan front brakes are not great. Look forward to the ride review

Bring it to St. George to ride. Weathers been great

Majority of single track riders in the country can never notice 5-7 lbs weight differences. Also my rx 300 is the tallest machine I’ve ever rode, was pleasantly surprised that it felt so much taller than a ktm. I like the feel of taller bikes, don’t know why I just prefer it.

I'd revisit the Race Editions again Kyle. They aren't valved like MX bikes anymore. Went to a 2024 Beta Demo ride last month. The Race Editions were heads and shoulders above the Sach/ZF suspended RR bikes. It was especially noticeable riding the RR's back to back with the Race Edition Betas. The 430 Race's suspension was amazing. The 200 Race wasn't as good, but still much better than the RR bikes. I will say I like the 250 engine better than the 300. Beta strayed away from the magical 72 x 72mm bore/stroke that every other 300cc 2T enduro uses and it shows.

Glad to see some Beta content. I have a 390 re on order, hopefully come in soon. Beta makes it hard to use RMATV for parts

@williamcrotts7054

5 ай бұрын

Beta wants all the aftermarket parts.

@dont3761

5 ай бұрын

I see they do, I guess that is good in a way, looking out for the dealers interest as long as they are fair priced. I buy almost everything from RMATV that I can for my KTM's and SxS"s@@williamcrotts7054

@wiilp4621

3 ай бұрын

I'm hoping to pick up a 390 here soon

My KTM 2007 250sx weighs a whopping 207lb!

Didn’t know they were an inch lower than KTM’s. I really liked my friends x-trainer except the suspension was way too soft.

I really want a Beta, but will never go back to carb. Would love to see you review the 390 4T

@shawnh2590

5 ай бұрын

He did a review on the 2018 390. Had nothing but good things to say about it.

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555

5 ай бұрын

I agree. When Sherco and Beta go fuel injected I’ll look at them again.

The owners manual is on a flash drive include with the bike. For Hard enduro I prefer the base model 300 and race edition in 250 pretty much due to suspension and set up. 🔥

@AdamCoffey828

5 ай бұрын

Same here

Bummed you didn't go with the new Race Edition with twin spark plugs.

The manual should come within a usb drive FYI. That’s what happened to me for 2023 model

Can you do a review on the Yamaha yz 250x compared to the euro bikes?

You need a race edition 300 too

That bike stand on wheels... brand and where'd you get that?

finallyyyy

Test the GPX TSE please.

Ok. Next round, get a 24 Rieju. Preferably pro 300. We love to seeing variety other than ktm! KYB by technical touch, rad fan, xtrig triple, protection pieces, keihin carb, Nissin brakes, Magura clutch, excel wheels. And hand guards! I have some dealers I can recommend!

@smithenstein79

Ай бұрын

Old gas gas motor though.

Also if you set your float hieght they wont dump fuel like that

Probably chose Brembo for the Aussie guys that always put on a CLAKE brake.

seat is a rock. that's were your inch is. they do seem to have poor gas economy. put a pipe guard on asap and remove the oil injection to be safe. It does have an idiot light for level but may not protect your engine incase of oil starvation. I had the dealer do it to my 200 in 22. I don't have any regrets so far.

@thezoomguys385

5 ай бұрын

I just add a bit of oil to the fuel as a fail safe & left the OI in place. The seat on mine is quite painful somedays. Waaay too hard! LOL.

Whats the out the door pice?

If its dumping gas leaning on the kickstand the float height is probably too high. Run in with the stock carb first.

Be nice if it came with a Kickstarter.

@smithenstein79

Ай бұрын

It’s an option when you purchase. Same as thermo fans.

Hi Kyle. You state here that you don't know anyone 'normal' that thinks the RE kyb suspension is better. I have a 22 race edition that I rode for a year and then bought a fork and shock from a 23 race edition and I'm absolutely telling you it's far superior to the base model RR sachs boingers. I live in CA at 6k elevation and ride similar terrain to the SLC/sandy/heber area.

Nissin brakes with Brembo clutch. Why? Because not all of us like Brembo brakes. I prefer the Nissins, especially on the front, as I feel they have a much more progressive feel over the Brembos. I have ridden many KTM's with them and they have always felt too grabby.

Dude! The new beta 300RE now got 2 spark plugs how you skeep that ?

@nivero5038

5 ай бұрын

250 has got only 1

@andrecasanova3753

5 ай бұрын

@@nivero5038 exactly only 300 has theme , they said increases power and consume less fuel

I don't get weighing them with a full tank of fuel...gas tank size will affect that, and gas tank size is easily modified...so it makes more sense to weigh them without fuel, for a true apples to apples comparison as to which bike is heavier. anyway....

@thezoomguys385

5 ай бұрын

I'm on the other side of the fence. Full tank(stock) gives a true RTR weight and also gives you a feel for how the bike carries the fuel when riding. You don't ride far with an empty tank..

@OtisFlint

5 ай бұрын

Agree, bikes with larger tanks should not be penalized.

@onthethrottle7104

5 ай бұрын

All of these bikes (XCW - XC - RR- RR Race) have the same fuel tank size so that is that. They are all right at 2.4 gal...

@jamesoso259

5 ай бұрын

Right! I too ride without gas in my tank

@MP-wc2wh

5 ай бұрын

I think you should do both Kyle. Weight without gas for comparison sake and then weight with full tank for those that want a true riding weight. Just my opinion.

Stic mod the factory kehin

I’ve never had my beta leak fuel, that clot needs adjusting

Is that a steering lock? Forgive me if that’s completely wrong.

@chihuahuaverde425

5 ай бұрын

It sure looks like a steering lock.

You always say you buy the race edition, yet you didn’t buy the race edition 250 beta 🤔

Please ride the bike with stock carb first.

The Beta is heavier than I thought! The KTM 300 XC-W is lighter than that 250. No Brembo no Bueno!

You had the 390 😅

Ktm all day!!!

Man you screwed up , since 2023 the race editions suspension is awsome!!!!

Blows my mind that people come to this channel for advice… Why would I take advice from a C rider?

Do not put a Lectron on! My 22 250 ran worse with the lectron being tuned to the bike. The Kehin carb is so much better!!

Beautiful bike! But hard to get parts and carbureted. No thanks. I’ll stick with the king of enduro KTM! Looking forward to first ride impressions.

this guys channel isnt remotely relevant anymore.....

@jordanB472

2 ай бұрын

What does that mean, not relevant? You don’t ride so it’s not relevant? Or are you making unnecessary critiques computer man…