When the race review comes before the funny tweets you know there is some spicy drama.

@AlexSteenOlsen

2 күн бұрын

George > Washmilton

@Thesingleairpod

2 күн бұрын

@@AlexSteenOlsen what on earth inspired you to comment this you 3 year old george glazer

@NicotineRosberg

2 күн бұрын

And over an hour. Lol

@thecompanioncube4211

2 күн бұрын

Understandably no one wants to open twitter can of worms today

@ergoproxy-gx2cq

2 күн бұрын

​@@AlexSteenOlsenI don't care. George is still a wanker

Russell: "That was a really cool fight" Piastri: "Well, you did just win a race because of it" Man Oscar's humour is very Kimi-esque

@TheMissiIe

2 күн бұрын

Edit: Ffs I can't word. "Really" instead of "never"

@sagittated

2 күн бұрын

And George and Carlos both laughed. 😂

@MentalParadox

2 күн бұрын

@@TheMissiIe There's an edit function, this isn't 2008

@SidewaysEightSix

2 күн бұрын

Very Australian humor lol

@zbeen-ah-lah

Күн бұрын

that’s why I call him Australian Kimi raikkonenen

Ted Kravitz got a laugh out of me when they were talking about the Alpines. "What can Bruno Famin do? Fire Ocon again?" 😂

@someoneunseen5168

Күн бұрын

Fair play to Ted for that one, but he is still a tit.

@Good_Horsey

Күн бұрын

@@someoneunseen5168 No argument here.

@sixstrinngmunky

Күн бұрын

They can pull an RB and swap him to 3rd seat and put Jack in the car for the rest of the season. Might as well to get him some running time

@martinj2843

15 сағат бұрын

😂😂😂

Last week after putting Max three feet onto the grass: "Plenty of space" - Lando Norris

Aside from the obvious drama - Max -> Had a bad pitstop + went wide on the outlap + spent time fighting with Lando + collided with Lando + Limped back to pits + Had an extra pitstop = still finished 17 seconds ahead of Perez, who finished behind a Haas. What on earth is going on with Perez???

@bobbymoto1675

2 күн бұрын

Time to extend his contract thru 2030 🇲🇽

@ccramit

2 күн бұрын

He is and has always been mid. People forget that the Pink Mercedes was winning the WDC the year before and even Stroll managed to podium in it. When the 2022 regs hit, he seemed closer to Max because neither driver were comfortable in the car. But once they did, Max hit the floor running and Perez got exposed.

@jesse5942

2 күн бұрын

He has posted a pic. He had a gaping hole in the car

@arjenkeller

2 күн бұрын

Verstappen doesn't want to loose... Had a dramatic pitstop, probably was very angry about it, tried hard to drive away, made a braking error, got more angry, didn't want to give up for the orange army, and made an error.. thats it.

@Gaelic-Rex

2 күн бұрын

Perez isn’t great at the moment. But did you see the giant hole in his car from lap 1

Guys let's not argue about what happened with Lando and Max, Hulk got P6!

@FirdausF3

2 күн бұрын

in front of a red bull at that!

@WhiskeyBlues0

2 күн бұрын

@@FirdausF3 true!

@xtheamazingax

2 күн бұрын

And K-Mag P8 as well. Haas had a very good day.

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

2 күн бұрын

This is why Maldonado is the greatest driver of all time.

@andyvettel4375

2 күн бұрын

@@xtheamazingax don't forget Ricciardo P9 as well

23:14 That last track limit from Lando was not him being pushed off by Max though. That was the one where he dive bombed on the inside at turn 3, completely missed his braking point, locked up and ran wide all on his own and where Max, who was already turning in had to correct mid movement to avoid a collision. That one was on Lando and not a very smart thing to do when you have just received a black and white flag telling you that was your final track limit warning. So yes it may be annoying but I think this system is better than having a subjective opinion system where the stewards have to judge each and every instance to see if someone really gained an advantage, because like you said earlier in the podcast that would open up an even bigger can of worms of teams protesting and us not getting a final result until hours after the finish.

Precedent for leaving the track and keeping the position "becaused he pushed me off" was set in Abu Dhabi 2021, lap 1, by Lewis. Funnily enough, Max was the victim there.

@uriuruiru

Күн бұрын

No one seem to remember that funny enough.

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

@@uriuruiru because British drivers rarely can be at fault. They really love to pile it on Verstappen if they can. Buxton and Palmer were clowns in their post race show. I really hope Max sticks it these biased c*unts at the beloved home race.

@WeirdBrick

2 сағат бұрын

The part everyone forgets, especially Sky Sports!

Charles Leclerc having a normal race challenge, difficulty : impossible

@kevinlaguna2023

2 күн бұрын

Leclerc is washed

@mexicanopdb

2 күн бұрын

​@@kevinlaguna2023mf this is literally the first race where he was affected massively by a mistake he made since Zandvoort 2023

@noname-ey3pk

2 күн бұрын

​@@kevinlaguna2023hater clown

@kevinlaguna2023

2 күн бұрын

@@noname-ey3pk he got outdone today by checo??? Hahaha

@estenba844

2 күн бұрын

​@@kevinlaguna2023watch the race first before commenting

The one who set all this off was Redbulls rear left wheel-gun guy

@annekeruben3238

2 күн бұрын

Poor guy lol... To be fair, Red Bull hardly fumbles a pit stop. It's unfortunate that it happened.

@irgiefarras2159

2 күн бұрын

in australia his left rear brake also cooked. coincidence?

@MrPossiification

2 күн бұрын

7s gap down to 1.7s yikes!

@Sin-kj9qt

2 күн бұрын

It was the first (!) pitstop from Max that was over 3 sec 👀 They gain him more than they lose

@NicotineRosberg

2 күн бұрын

What a legend he is. Netflix cut him a check instantly

I find the Max slander a bit too much especially because Lando had quite a lot of questionable moves too

In the review of the track limits violation it was confirmed that Norris violated 4 track limits AFTER his black and white flag and it was still all before the Lando and max collision, so that is definitely influencing the race by giving the penalty 5 laps later!

Crazy how Oscar could have won this race if he didn’t have the track limits in Q3 or got stuck behind Perez for the first few laps

@MarjanMJ1

2 күн бұрын

But he had

@Surfsaus

2 күн бұрын

He wasn't even over the line. Robbed.

@daarom3472

2 күн бұрын

he was yeeted in the first corner and then run off the track into the gravel by sergio. Even after starting P7 Oscar couldve won it.

@jesse5942

2 күн бұрын

...If my grandma had wheels, she'd have been a bike 😜😂

@chrisvienneau3402

2 күн бұрын

And now everyone knows why Oscar and McLaren were so upset about it!

Race review before funniest tweets? What multiverse am i living in?

@CommanderTucksonZanga

2 күн бұрын

Had to be done. Race was too crazy at the end lol.

Tom the pit stop was over 6 seconds what where you watching to think that didn’t play a role ?

@WeirdBrick

2 сағат бұрын

Bizarre really! Max had a 7.3 second lead if I remember right.

You guys didn't really talk about Lando locking up when sending it into turn 3. Two laps before Max went off track to keep position Lando out braked himself and sent both of them off the track. If Max stays on track there's every likelihood Lando causes the crash becasue he locks up again. He used the same move in the sprint race as well... Lando need to make the move cleanly with room for Max on the outside and I don't think he got that done.

@marwilliam01

2 күн бұрын

Don't get me wrong! Love the show and loved the racing was great to watch!

@SheAirFire

Күн бұрын

Gave the position back

The butterfly effect of that slow Red Bull pitstop is crazy lol. Not only could it have started a chain of events that affect the Driver's Championship, but also may have played a role in ending the seemingly most genuine friendship on the grid.

@remsrhythm9408

2 күн бұрын

most genuine? gasly and yuki exist

@naasam6339

2 күн бұрын

If this ends their friendship then it wasn’t one to begin with.

@VanCough

2 күн бұрын

If we're talking butterfly effects, I want to add that Horner's controversy which created tension in the team and made Adrian Newey leave, probably slowed Red Bull's development and allowed McLaren to catch up

@andrewfiorini8169

2 күн бұрын

This is what makes the sport so fun. Every little thing matters.

@Carlife0830

2 күн бұрын

Exactly I doubt their friendship will end after this ​@@naasam6339

Tommy really cooked with the Red Bull biggest flop 🤣🤣🤣👌👌

@adamthomsen5724

2 күн бұрын

My thought precicely

@stevef3685

2 күн бұрын

2 points for that one as well

@mark4motion68

Күн бұрын

Ow shit he did

British media be like... Senna: always on the edge of the rules - legend. Schumacher: always on the edge of the rules - legend. Verstappen: always on the edge of the rules - the actual devil.

@VectusCraft

Күн бұрын

You're only a legend once you finish.

@Drunken_Unicorn

Күн бұрын

@@VectusCraft true but I am growing tired of the Verstappen bashing by British media. Let them race and sort it out on the track.

@KLC6432

Күн бұрын

You do realise the British press vilified Schumacher for what he did to Hill?

@themightyant.

Күн бұрын

British press did not call Schumacher a legend till much much later, at the time he was vilified. As for Max he’s a genius but he can’t be allowed to keep getting away with moving under breaking like that, it’s bloody dangerous. The squeezing that caused the accident was the least bad of the incidents, I agree that happens, though needs to be reviewed carefully.

@Drunken_Unicorn

Күн бұрын

@@themightyant. Yep true. Does that make it acceptable to continue doing that? I would just like both sides to be given a fair argument. I haven't seen one journo or youtuber ask the question of what Lando was doing on the outside at that corner. He wasn't alongside so was he lunging around the outside? Seems very risky. Not defending Max but arguing both sides would be far more interesting than just bashing Max.

There's a video comparing the collision with Lando with a video from a previous Austrian GP where Max comes up on the outside with Sainz moving over to the left at the same point and leaving a very similar amount of room. In that case Max simply moved left a bit more on the kerb himself to avoid a collision and then goes for the switch back coming out of the corner. After seeing that I'm more inclined towards it being a racing incident as there was room for Lando to move left as well to avoid the collision. Anyway, whatever it was it's sad it ended the way it did because it was a great battle.

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

absolutely, I still can't understand what lando was going for there on the outside.way too impatient and doesnt prepare his overtakes smart enough. He never really tried something in T4.

@Dagr8soldjer

Күн бұрын

It's about obligation. Lando being able to take more kerb, doesn't change the fact that Max didn't leave a cars width. You are not obliged to cover up another driver's rule breaking by moving out onto the kerb. It's only a racing incident so long as both drivers stay within the rules. If one of them breaks the rules, they are liable for any collision that comes of it.

@BelegCuthali0n

Күн бұрын

@@Dagr8soldjer My point is that so many drivers in every race over the years have done exactly what Max did in that corner and sometimes squeezing the driver on the outside even more and it never got punished for any of them. Where was all this outrage and drama-hyping in all those other instances?

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

@@Dagr8soldjer there was like 93% of a car width, excl. the kerb. There was a video floating around from a previous year. but with Max behind and on the outside. He took way more Kerb and was able to cut back and in the end overtake cleanly. Lando did not try everything to prevent it either

@Ashley-lz9jh

Күн бұрын

All of this comes down to “both of them made questionable moves. Max dodged. Lando wasn’t talented enough to avoid the crash” but because Max’s mistake had the consequences, everyone ignores Lando doing the same thing 3x before 😂

7:15 lando had a penalty for track limits he may not have won. Also i think stewards not announcing his penalty right away was dirty by the fia

@Bananananananannananananna

2 күн бұрын

Yeah lol had they announced earlier max probably wouldve been less aggressive and avoided the crash.

@mysterionslyther5762

2 күн бұрын

I think this was unavoidable because both teams knew the penalty was coming. Commentors where already saying only way Norris wins if he creates a gap of 5 sec after overtake, so it was just hunger of max and ambition of Norris

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

2 күн бұрын

Lando was faster than Max, if he got by, he's making the 5 seconds up with the time that they had. Also, it makes no difference when they announce it Lando is not going to yield just because he gets a penalty, if anything he'll apply more pressure, because the cost is even greater. I don't think it's any difference from how the FIA normally are, they're always about show, after all, they let Max move under braking and gain an advantage when Lando dive bombed inside of him for the lead. They said nothing then, why is it an issue if they're quite about a penalty for a bit.. if anything that's the least of their faults.

@SpartanArmy117

2 күн бұрын

Nah, Max was always going to go for the on track win. But seriously I don't see the issue with the defending. Alonso and other legends defend like that all the time. He wasn't swerving wildly or anything. The accident was his fault, though. With that being said, Lando could've also avoided it using the curbing, not that legally he has to. I'm just saying everyone here knew what they were doing.

@dutchbosoxfan8919

2 күн бұрын

@@F1ll1nTh3Blanks- Lando had fresher tires, and constantly had DRS of course...which Max would have had if Lando had passed him. At some moment, the fresher tire advantage levels out. So I'm not so sure Lando would have been able to make up 5 seconds. The RB was clearly faster in the first part of the race.

Max having a crash, drive half a lap with a puncture and have an extra stop and Perez still finishes behind him. . .

@pacman1p

2 күн бұрын

Perez had a hole in his sidepod that you could stick your head in. And these guys record a podcast without even knowing it FFS...

@Mercedes0nTop

2 күн бұрын

​​@@pacman1ptbf I found out loke 30 mns ago when I saw post race interviews, and we didn't hear a radio from checo abt the damage

@leighreese1780

Күн бұрын

THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy or dreaming that Checo had side pod damage!

@obobobobal

Күн бұрын

Hamilton also had a hole in his side pod. He wasn't a minute behind his teammate 😂 it's never checos fault lol

@leighreese1780

Күн бұрын

@@obobobobal I thought it was floor damage🤷🏼‍♀️. But whatever it was they mentioned that. They did not mention Checo’s significant damage

did everyone forget that last week Lando pushed Max out of the track on start of the race and then he says to Max i gave you plenty space ???

The only thing I will say about Perez is he did have a decent size hole in his side pod, BUT it was his fault anyway because he hit Piastri

in spain, when we talk about max we call him "pole o muro" which means "you either get pole or go to the wall" and i think thats beautiful

@aaronnator

2 күн бұрын

Absolutely spot on 💯 can only pass him SAFELY on the straights

@ovt8454

Күн бұрын

@@aaronnatornot even that. Saudi 2021 💀

@ruudrijsdijk4121

Күн бұрын

@@ovt8454 Hamilton could have passed him safely in that occasion, since Verstappen had to give up the position. They decided to play a form of DRS chicken instead, very badly I might add.

@xxtetsukuroxx4879

Күн бұрын

​@ruudrijsdijk4121 Well, FiA haven't given instructions to Mercedes that Max will give the position back but the DRS mindgames were dangerous as hell

@aaronnator

Күн бұрын

@@ovt8454 oh snap forgot about that you’re right 😂

Max and Lando the friendship is officially over 😂😂

@Stephanie-s2024

2 күн бұрын

Here comes max and lando rivals era 😂

@deadline0018

2 күн бұрын

None of them are really friends tbh , see charles and carlos , slag each other over an overtake

@leagokubu9072

2 күн бұрын

@@Stephanie-s2024 ye I hope they do not Collide in Silverstone 🤣🤣😂

@Gaelic-Rex

2 күн бұрын

😂yup, this was a bit more than an inchident....

@NicotineRosberg

2 күн бұрын

They are still friends lol

Why are you debating about Norris’s track limits penalty. His penalty was for diving up the inside at turn 3, locking up and not being able to make the corner. Max didn’t push him wide or force him off. He outbraked himself and went off the track so it’s obviously a track limits violation not a racing incident. Just because he’s going for an overtake doesn’t mean it should be treated any differently.

As a lando fan I laughed about them coming together. This level of aggression was what I wanted to see, while the end result was rough for him, he’s shown max he’s here to race.

@karleintracht4958

Күн бұрын

Lewis tried to play that game with Max. What happened to Lewis since then?

@ozzizgod

Күн бұрын

​@@karleintracht4958Lewis, Lewis, Lewis, always goes back to Lewis.

@dinispereira411

2 сағат бұрын

​@@karleintracht4958we all know how 2021 went down... After that there was no mercedes to fight for wins.

Divebombs are fair play as long as the wheels don’t lock up. If you can’t make the car stop on time, you are at fault. It was fair that Norris gave position back

@EireannachNathair

2 күн бұрын

In what book do you see that? Divebomb is a divebomb, you shouldn't drive the other car of the track and that's it, tire lockup is optional, otherwise you need to let the other driver the position back, Lando did that, Max did not

@aaronnator

2 күн бұрын

Lando dive bombed and Max made a late move/nudge. That obviously caused Lando to lock up.

@cadenzhou5860

2 күн бұрын

@@EireannachNathairin max’s book lol

@clintondavelaar7313

2 күн бұрын

You can lock up and still hit the apex and make the corner and lando did that. Locking up has nothing to do with it

@ghostlyrazgriz5228

Күн бұрын

The track limits incident when norris ran off. He only locked up after max moved under braking. You cant just easily avoid that while on the brakes already. They brake in a straight line for a reason.

Hard racing and hard defending, I would rather watch a battle like this than nobody even trying to pass, you win some, you lose some.

@Hansoen

2 күн бұрын

Too bad the commentators on F1tv has the worst british bias ever. Hard fighting, Max overdid it, so did Lando, but if you just listen to f1tv pundits you would think max jumped out of the car and shot a rocket launcher at Lando

@aaronnator

2 күн бұрын

I’m a Max fan here. The guy was borderline dirty and we need to accept it. Made 2 borderline illegal moves in the braking zone and squeezed Lando on his 3rd try. Any other position, driver would’ve gotten a penalty but because it’s a fight for 1st. Grey areas appear in the rule book magically.

@myles5868

2 күн бұрын

@@aaronnatorI totally agree that max was definitely right on the line (and probably over it). However so was lando, they were both racing extremely agressivly and bound to crash eventually.

@myles5868

2 күн бұрын

@@HansoenIt was really passing me off. Crafty saying “lando learned what it’s like to race max vertappen” or something along those lines. All while ignoring Landos dive bombs that pushed max off. They were both driving extremely aggressively, it wasn’t just max.

@edbr2379

2 күн бұрын

Divebombs that push someone off on exit are allowed and have been Max's go to move his whole career. Just get to apex first and it's allowed. Moving under braking is not. Norris went off once so correctly gave the position back. Max went off deliberately to keep the position.

The amount of hate people are ready to lob on Max for the same racing moves that they praise him for when he wins. Wild.

@Weezy10580

22 сағат бұрын

Tommy hates Max

The fact that you guys didn't mention that Perez had a huge gaping hole in his car is SHOCKING

@leighreese1780

Күн бұрын

EXACTLY!!!

@Melbourne-s4x

Күн бұрын

Ultimately it doesn't matter, Perez underperformed all weekend AGAIN

@Rydabomb

Күн бұрын

He just didn't though

@jip5873

Күн бұрын

Yes, he got that in lap 1 turn 1, when he and Oscar sqeezed Le Clerc. Perez was the one most to blame for that.

@KLC6432

Күн бұрын

There's a huge gaping hole in Perez's talent.

Max doind the same thing that Sainz did last year in monza. But Max is a bad guy and Sainz was at a good racer.

@lillyess385

2 күн бұрын

Max is carrying the baggage of his past behaviour which was appalling.

@novemberindia2591

2 күн бұрын

Sainz doesn't have a history of this sort of behaviour, say what you want about sainz's aggression but until this season leclerc and sainz have never made contact despite hard racing. Sainz knows where the line is. Max is a once in a generation talent no doubt about it, arguably the best driver on the grid he just needs to stop being a sore loser.

@Duval-In-The-Wall

2 күн бұрын

Sainz was lucky that wasn’t a crash

A ONE HOUR PODCAST STRAIGHT AFTER THE RACE? YES PLEASE. ❤❤❤ Thank you guys!

the answer to the question of who is guilty is already known here with all those british fanboys here. Question for the British, do you have self-reflection because I have the feeling that it is lacking and that may be the reason why you always blame someone else?

You can say the same about Lando tho. The divebombs where almost kyvat like . A few of those he didn’t make aswell A little bit desperate I would say . He would have easily get by max if he waited just a little bit .

Lando fan here. I enjoyed the shit out of that. Lando was out, fine, it's done, but the season just got more interesting.

@Kevakazii

Күн бұрын

It's not fine though. It keeps happening to anyone who gets close to Max. Max moved under breaking, it's dangerous.

People really forgetting Norris squeezing max on the grass last race, both of them are not clean

@46harry

2 күн бұрын

That was unbelievable, i cant believe nobodys talking about that, literally pushed him properly on the grass

@tarettime9392

2 күн бұрын

Because they’re not remotely comparable. Tight squeezing down to T1 and moving under braking, overtaking off track, causing a collision, and THEN squeezing off track are not comparable to each other.

@thecompanioncube4211

2 күн бұрын

It’s consequence based judgement in fanbase. It’s clear as day

@MrPwncake

Күн бұрын

@@tarettime9392I don’t think the point is that they’re comparable. The media is making it out like Lando is a clean faultless driver. He’s not. Leading up to the incident, Lando was reckless. The incident itself, Max was at fault.

@Trendyflute

Күн бұрын

@@thecompanioncube4211 You say that like it's a bad thing...I am so sick of this F1 fan mantra that consequences don't matter. Consequences are, by self-definition, _consequential._ This desire to ignore consequences but also somehow came up with procedural penalties that are perfect and align with what is "right" for any given situation is maddening. Let consequences matter, because they do. To say otherwise is just to lie to ourselves and I'm tired of it!

The England game was the last thing that would calm you down if you wanted England to win

Lando exceeding track limits played a role in all of these issues with Max because Max had pulled the second gap and was out of DRS range and then Lando exceeds track limits three times and is within one second

@someoneunseen5168

Күн бұрын

Yep, a relevant point.

@wess1436

Күн бұрын

Lando was pretty lucky too tbh. When he was just outside the second of max, he got drs from a back marker twice which brought him within a second

@jstambo478

Күн бұрын

@@wess1436 I think Lando saying he did nothing wrong is what got me the most. Both of them were pushing the line.

@wess1436

Күн бұрын

@@jstambo478 Definitely. The last thing I've heard Max say is that he needed to review the footage. That is a much more professional response

@jstambo478

Күн бұрын

@@wess1436 absolutely I'm not really a fan of asking athletes questions immediately after they finish their sports. It causes issues that don't need to happen they could wait a bit/leave the contentious ones till last

That was fast.

@mattp1tommy

2 күн бұрын

We couldn't wait to do the podcast haha

@Gaelic-Rex

2 күн бұрын

Faster than the end of Ver-Lando friendship the minute Lando’s car became competitive

@nathanb286

2 күн бұрын

Ended the twitch stream early so they could record raw reactions

@kevinlaguna2023

2 күн бұрын

​@@mattp1tommyleclerc is washed??

@Gaelic-Rex

2 күн бұрын

@@kevinlaguna2023 I wouldn’t say washed. But Matt unironically saying Charles driver of the day? Not having that. Charles messed up in quali which was his own fault, started out of position, got squeezed at the start, had a poor race because out of position. If that was any other top driver the two of them would be all over that, giving the driver a 4 out of 10 because poor quali put them there. I bet Matt gives Charles an undeserved 8/10.

Tommy is the most objective Max fan snd that's ehy i respect his opinions

@kevinlaguna2023

2 күн бұрын

Think he's the average fan, fanbois are the ones who comment and say toxic things

@ronaldojoe3011

2 күн бұрын

@@kevinlaguna2023 and unfortunately, they're the ones with the loudest voices.

@danielrauch5526

2 күн бұрын

@@kevinlaguna2023the amount of fanboys crying about one another is completely obnoxious

@TheJubess

2 күн бұрын

I fault max all the time but still tune in for him. What he does 99% of the time that is so impressive out ways the questionable moves or down right dirty moves for me to tune in for it

@agt2659

Күн бұрын

Lap 64 Max changes direction and takes the blame, I can agree on that. But don’t think Lando’s multi divebombs is any better. All could have been race-ending incidents for both.

To learn a bit more about F1 go watch Peter Windsor's video about this...

@mr.d7177

2 күн бұрын

Amen!

Lando did not got the 4th track limit warning because he was pushed off by Verstapen, he outbraked himself and went off track or did Matt and Tommy watche some other race?

@AegrusYT

2 күн бұрын

No they're doing the thing they said they weren't going to do and prematurely make statements or get baited by SkyF1 articles, like not mentioning that Max said he would have to rewatch before he makes any definitive statements, and even later, when Max admitted it was a clumsy incident.

Forgetting that Lando had a 5 second penalty and just saying Lando would have won the race. . . Also saying that Mclaren had the best car when Max was driving away and was 8 seconds ahead at one point in the race.

@AmericasChoice

2 күн бұрын

Brits being Brits.

@Bobby09LFC

2 күн бұрын

Lando would have gained 5 seconds on Max

@15schola

2 күн бұрын

@Bobby09LFC max would have been in drs and lando already locked up his new tyres on his 2nd attempt at passing in turn 3. And there was like 8 laps remaining at that point.

@EireannachNathair

2 күн бұрын

​@@15scholaMax locked up his old tires at first lap after pit stop..

@Wolfywolf7

2 күн бұрын

McLaren definitely looks to be the fastest when the fuel loads get lighter.

Lando never had his car in front of Max apart from divebombing a few times.

@nib95

Күн бұрын

According to the rules post drivers complaints about Max Verstappen, in 2022 the rules were re clarified to not need a car to be exactly beside the other, just that a "substantial part of the car" was alongside the other. Even the prior detail on the rule of axel to axel, was only at the point of the apex. Max went into Lando even before they actually hit the Apex.

Are people blind? The second attempt of Noris, he launched into the inside and ended himself outside the track.

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

no, that was an amazing overtake but the constellation of the sun, the moon and Max's intention to make the corner before forest eventually made Driver-of-the-day forget to brake and turn in. What an atrocious behaviour. Max should be made to give the win for next week's race to all British drivers. Yes ALL, because it's nice, and 2nd place to Charles because he had so much bad luck and 3rd to Hulkenberg because he also deserve a podium and they should make the Alpine drivers sing Kumba Ya at a campfire and everybody should just get along well. Also, LEAVE LANDO ALONE

The track limit violation from Norris that gave him the pen did not come from Verstappen pushing him wide what are you yapping about? It came from Norris divebombing and going way too deep. Then it took like 10 laps for the pen to be given.

There are drivers and there are drivers. Senna, Schumacher, even Lewis, known to skirt the rules, and slam the door. Guys like Senna and Max are just wired that way.

@leeunger3434

2 күн бұрын

100 percent right on

@tuttutteddy8889

2 күн бұрын

I completely agree. But it doesn’t mean it’s right.

@daarom3472

2 күн бұрын

honestly looking back at the fight multiple times its hard to even fault Max (completely). Twice Lando absolutely sends it forcing Max to take evasive action and even go off the track. Then Max positions his car to take the apex and Lando refuses to go into the run off. Yes Max was at fault and had to leave more track space, but Norris also had ample time and space to react. At the end of the day though Max takes 10 points while Charles/Norris both take 0.

@sleepypixie8828

2 күн бұрын

​@@daarom3472 how is it any different to what max does all the time? Actually the difference is lando managed to avoid contact unlike max. We've seen him do it with lewis seb raikkonen

@gk863

2 күн бұрын

​@@daarom3472 nah it's obvious he was at fault, luckily nothing much happened

The one day I wake up late for a race fml

@mr.iceman_

2 күн бұрын

ouchh

@adriansmith7730

2 күн бұрын

Same bro, where I live race began at 6am and I accidentally setup my alarm for every day of the week except for sunday :c Woke up just to see Lando crash into Max Xd

@Good_Horsey

2 күн бұрын

Worse still, think of the people that turned it off halfway through 😂

@max1milly

2 күн бұрын

savageeee id be fuming

@someoneunseen5168

Күн бұрын

Watch a replay?

You two should take Peter Windsor's analysis in consideration about the incident

think most people can agree that it was a race incident. A bit aggressive and dive bomby from norris and a few too many double moves when defending by max. Was super tight and something was bound to happen. People wanted closer racing, here you go. Stuff like this sometimes happens when they race hard. What i find particularly fucking annoying is how sky treated it like verstappen just shot norris' dog, getting particularly upset at him for not debasing himself to them. Weird little bully moment where everyone piled on him like norris didnt repeatedly divebomb. Felt gross. British bias is still real.

the ones at fault are the FIA holding back the 5sec for Landos track limit just becouse they wanted to see him fight for position only to drop it on him after. they knew the final track limit violation for many laps before the contact

@alvori1

2 күн бұрын

Yes if they gave the penalty within 2 laps then the last move was not necessary

@alvori1

2 күн бұрын

How come Lando can not do an overtake in one decisive move? His car was so much faster.

@tomlischke592

2 күн бұрын

@@alvori1 Because Max is moving under breaking into his line.

@MrTobytat2

2 күн бұрын

Or if they made Max give the position to Lando after Max kept it off the track

@Shuubox

2 күн бұрын

@@tomlischke592 It's called "hard racing", look it up

Hulk, Danny Ric, The Alpines, all some solid drives

@michaelcobbin

2 күн бұрын

It’s now three in row that Danny Ric has beaten Yuki. Danny Ric has the bit between his teeth now.

@warrenm6882

Күн бұрын

@@michaelcobbinUnpopular opinion - Dan’s had better race pace most of the season. Yuki is quicker over 1 lap & it’s harder to overtake so Yuki has the better results.

@michaelcobbin

Күн бұрын

@@warrenm6882 You are probably right. Daniel’s race pace experience is starting to show. If Daniel continues with this form, people will have to shut up on the topic that Daniel doesn’t deserve to be F1. It was clear that Haas and Daniel went with a different tyre strategy, and it paid off.

@Rydabomb

Күн бұрын

​@@warrenm6882how is that 😜 unpopular everyone knows that

I feel like I'm the only person who thinks this whole thing is being massively blown out of proportion. Max squeezed Lando a little too much, which is pretty careless, but Landon wasn't on the normal racing line for the corner which might be why Max moved over to where he did. The only reason this is a big deal is the consequence of the collision, which is something that the FIA say they don't take into consideration, yeah right.

@This_0ne_Person

Күн бұрын

Neither driver was racing clean, but because Max was involved, the other party is immediately deemed completely innocent

@pixelsam123

14 сағат бұрын

​​@@This_0ne_Person As you should! Max has a huge history of being dirty, Lando doesn't. Your comment is like saying "because ocon has a reputation of crashing into teammates, we dont blame his teammates" well he has that reputation for a reason duh.

I think Max’s move wasnt as bad as his haters are presenting it. In a way this was an important statement from Max to Lando till the end of the season. And luckily he even benefited from this.

@Duval-In-The-Wall

2 күн бұрын

He caused a collision, it’s pretty cut and dry

@Ashley-lz9jh

Күн бұрын

@@Duval-In-The-WallLando dove up the inside of max and made max go wide 3x before this. If they’d collided, it would’ve been Lando’s fault. Realistically, if Lando had just run wide instead of trying to turn in, they’d have both finished the race. And If we’re talking about mistakes, Lando made more. Max’s just had worse consequences

@ozzizgod

Күн бұрын

​@Ashley-lz9jh watch the replay Lando was going straight, Max was drifting over to the left. Clear as day.

@Duval-In-The-Wall

23 сағат бұрын

@@Ashley-lz9jh If they collided, but they didn’t. That move is pretty much in the Max playbook anyway Max kept weaving under braking, he looked like he was going to cause a crash, and he did

I disagree with Matt on max reaction post race. He clearly was thinking that it wasn’t 100% not his fault and admitted he would need to look at it to see what happened. If max thought he wasn’t at fault he would have said he wasn’t and moved on.

@skeletonmodel

2 күн бұрын

Well Matt is the one that makes normal thumbnails every qualy, unless Max doesn’t have Pole, and then it’s exclamations marks and ‘amazing qualy’ however boring it was.

@thatrustyone1943

2 күн бұрын

Yeah well, Matt, along with many others, give an overreacting to a relatively small fault. Maybe because it's max, maybe because the "victim" is a Brit. Norris shows that he is an impatient driver and doesn't have the skill like other great wheel to wheel drivers.

@sread833

2 күн бұрын

Yet Max had to break the rules to prevent Lando from passing him. So, no, Lando was doing fine until Max went crashstappen mode.

@petiertje

2 күн бұрын

@@thatrustyone1943 He has the skill, just lacks experience when using it. He will learn and hopefully makes less moves which are half possible. He was way quicker then Max after the pitstop, he could have had him easy with just a little bit more patience.

@petiertje

2 күн бұрын

@@sread833 Well, Lando made some dodgy attempts too. So both were driving on the limit (which was awesome).

Lando trying to do an old Danny Ric, lick the stamp but forgot to post it..

@danabc322

2 күн бұрын

He sent it via Evri

Did anyone else see Max and lando made contact, then see lando purposely drive into him after? I think lando got more damage from that, instead of the original contact. If you hadn't done that he could have finished the race and won

@TheMoikero

2 күн бұрын

My guess is that Lando expected Max to make the corner after that and not continue ahead. Thats why he turned as well

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

@@TheMoikero goes to show that Lando wasn`t the smartest today.

Brits reviewing a racing incident involving a brit .... always the same conclusion ... Its the olther guy!

@KLC6432

Күн бұрын

Yeah the Seward's and the FIA agree too. Theres also video and data of max moving under braking. But yeah it's all a conspiracy fella....

@hershalkrostofsky825

Күн бұрын

@@KLC6432 It's not an issue of "conspiracy" - it's the ridiculous bias and tiresome whinging from the British fans, youtubers and Press in particular whenever one of their drivers has an "incident". Russell in Australia is a classic case in point.

@KLC6432

Күн бұрын

@@hershalkrostofsky825 and the FIA, the stewards, the pundits and the team principles that all state max was wrong. Accept it.

@LocoLegends

Күн бұрын

@@KLC6432 the crash was fault of max but Norris tried 3 times before the crash and didnt get pass cuz of he was too far behind, why didnt norris learn from that and wait untill he get closer to max (he was faster then max) and pass max cleanly. You could this coming that something will go wrong before the crash.

@KLC6432

Күн бұрын

@@LocoLegends that's right blame the guy that didn't move under braking several times...

Neither, they were both hard racing. Who actually was at fault is the FIA, who took 10mins to look at clear footage of Lando going off track 30 times before they gave him his penalty

@safcjcp

Күн бұрын

Max nf outside the regulations constantly moving under breaking

@Weezy10580

22 сағат бұрын

@@safcjcpNo he wasn’t derelict

@Teedeedubbelu

Сағат бұрын

@@safcjcp Max moved just before breaking not under breaking and that is allowed.

As a Max fan, good for Lando in not just letting Max go. Good for him to taking the fight to Max. I like that the FIA let them race. Races are so boring when they look like cars racing each other are on rails. Without the car damage I hope we see this leveling of battling for the rest of the season. I wish every driver raced as hard as both these two did.

@gothicusmaximus5697

Күн бұрын

you hope every driver cheated in defence?

@pixelpusher3589

Күн бұрын

The RACE is on!!!!

@virtualwanderer

Күн бұрын

​@@gothicusmaximus5697squeezing drivers is a common occurrence, literally happens all the time. You just don't hear about it unless it leads to a collision. Lando last week, leclarc 2023 and so many more.

@Dagr8soldjer

Күн бұрын

Hard racing is fine....as long as it's fair. Moving under braking is dangerous and track limits violations aren't. For the stewards to investigate track limits but not investigate moving in the braking zone is simply perverse. Lando left the track and gave the position back. Max left the track and gained an advantage and didn't return the position.

@ebm80

Күн бұрын

@@gothicusmaximus5697 you again. 🤣

Imagine Norris last weekend would have put Max in the wall at the start, taking along some of the midfield... Would he then ahve been poenalized for the outcome, if the act wasn't really worth investigating? Worse "moving under hbraking" happened last year at Monza, with the same 10 second penalty, it was just not for the lead. Technically, Max didn't steer under braking I think, and the dive bombs were all from too far away. Why not just take him at T4???

I lost it when Lando came up as the dotd

doesn't really matter if you are any driver's fan, even as a lando fan i still enjoyed the hard racing. it left me on the edge of the seat and i enjoyed that. we want more of this

WHAT A SEASON THIS HAS BEEN *Piastri should’ve been driver of the day*

I don’t think Norris got the track violations when directly involved with max. It was when he was trying to catch up to attempt an overtake

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

Yeah, I think his engineer said it is for Turn 1. So carrying more speed onto the straight and the run up to T3

In defence of Max. He had to break twice because of Norris dive bombs to avoid a collision. That's a fact you should take into account and is on account of Norris. It does not matter whether or not it's a totle battle. That also counts for Norris. Everybody can do everything to Max, but for Max, different rules are applied. That's measuring with different standards.

@MrTobytat2

2 күн бұрын

Lando didnt make the corner once. Not twice. You "dive bomb" and make the corner, its called a pass.

@Duval-In-The-Wall

2 күн бұрын

First one was a mistake, he didn’t make the corner However on the second one he reached the apex first and got past. Lately in F1 we’re used to drivers closing the door on exit, idk how Max was able to run off track and keep that position

@sletzer

2 күн бұрын

@@Duval-In-The-Wall His rear tire had just been blown out. That doesn't exactly help him make the corner.

@phillydelphia8760

2 күн бұрын

Moving like that in the braking zone is against the rules, simple as. Let's not forget Max and his driving style that earned him his rep in F1. He has a track record.

@Duval-In-The-Wall

2 күн бұрын

@@sletzer I’m talking about the lap before, Max accelerated off the track to keep the lead

If oscar doesn't get his lap deleted he'd probably win, what a shame

@lukenoonan3898

2 күн бұрын

He had the fastest car and lost to a dude who had the joint 3rd fastest car. The shame is he is off the pace in the fastest car.

@SimonStandbridge

2 күн бұрын

@@lukenoonan3898Only by 2 seconds despite losing 4 grid positions to a marginal track limits call. Hardly off the pace.

@pimjcb9964

2 күн бұрын

If RB has quick pitstops, Max would have won easily.

@lukenoonan3898

2 күн бұрын

@@SimonStandbridge he was 20 seconds behind his team mate bro what are you smoking? Either be objective or don't bother comment because it's embarrassing. Reminder, the dude had the fastest car and was 2 seconds behind another dude with the 3rd fastest car.

@bobbymoto1675

2 күн бұрын

"If blah blah blah" arguments need to go in the bin. Racing isn't qualifying and results are earned, not given to the "fastest car"

The 5 sec penalty for Norris only came after the crash, Fia is sooo slow!

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

2 күн бұрын

Wouldn't have made a difference anyway.

@KarvidSR

2 күн бұрын

They had to review if Max late moves caused the lockup, (as if you have to turn while breaking you lose a lot of braking).

@TheMoikero

2 күн бұрын

it came after 2 or 3 laps. Which means 2 or 3 minutes. Sounds ok to me

@Harrypjotter7

2 күн бұрын

@@F1ll1nTh3BlanksI think so

@TwiceEvery14Days

2 күн бұрын

I don't think Norris had an opportunity to serve the penalty, since he retired right after. Does this mean he will get a grid place penalty for Silverstone?

Fernando Gigachad Alonso taking the fastest lap point away from max at the end got me on the floor

As a George Russell fan of course this is the race where my internet goes down before it even starts. Still I’ll take it

How Lando is DOTD?

@wilseph1

2 күн бұрын

Because he's English.

@sanjaydas99999

2 күн бұрын

Because teenage fangirls vote for him in huge numbers

@Fermentos

2 күн бұрын

People are dumb. Hulk should have been DOTD by a long shot

@Jamo_7811

2 күн бұрын

@@FermentosI was about to vote for Hulkenberg but the vote closed sadly.

@Surfsaus

2 күн бұрын

Dotd was oscar. Robbed of starting in 3rd, nearly fought his way back to a win from 7th. His two passes around the outside of perez and sainz easily the best of the day.

I’d have to say they are both at fault. However as a Max fan talking ….he did push it a little far, however I like seeing those elbows out ! I also saw some aggressive moves from Lando !!! Was an awesome show between the both of them !!

Hey Matt please go revise what your thoughts were for the Charlie defence on Lewis at the end of the Monza race a few years back. Funny how things work out when it’s your fav driver or fellow countrymen.

@DanielGijsbers

2 күн бұрын

Excellent

@Telcontarx

Күн бұрын

Bad memory here. What year was this?

@TonyMezaXD

Күн бұрын

No Matt is right. Max was at fault.

In Perez defence - he had Sidepot damage.

If we are talking about track limits. Lando was already presented the black and white. So no matter what he would get a penalty next time he left the track regardless of fighting max. Say lando does not get the penalty what precedent does that set. Use your 4 warnings to gain an advantage to the person in front, go off in a battle and get away with it. Just does not make sense

I hate the stewards waited until the crash to give Norris 5 seconds

@brianligat9493

2 күн бұрын

They also waited until seeing the gaps before giving Max an in-consequential penalty.

@Shuubox

2 күн бұрын

They 100% decided on the penalty eons ago but chose not to push it to let them race...they actually caused this

@JRi0T68

2 күн бұрын

I don't see how it matters. Penalty was after the pit stop. Wouldn't have been served before the race ended. If anything, Norris would have been fighting to build a 5 sec gap if he could.

@safcjcp

Күн бұрын

@@Shuuboxthey also caused it by letting max move under breaking unpunished

I don't quite understand this narrative that Max was being overly aggressive. Aside from the final contact, where Max clearly squeezed Lando in the breaking zone, all I saw was Max smartly placing the car to defend. What is he expected to do? Completely leave the door open like Lando did in the sprint which even Lando called an amateur move? A shame how this ended. I think Lando could have avoided if he just placed his outside wheels off track a bit, but it was just good hard racing IMO. It seems like these modern low-profile tires are far more susceptible to popping off the rim during contact. In the older cars this would have likely been a no-consequence wheel bang.

@JS-ct1uo

Күн бұрын

You can't justify any defense by saying Max would lose position if he didn't perform said defense. We have rules on how you can defend. Otherwise it would be almost impossible to overtake and could also lead to dangerous situations. By being alongside Lando had earned the right to a car's width. If he was forced to use kerb then that's a penalty for Max. Also why must Lando move further out rather than Max move further to the right? Also Max was moving under braking and not just smartly positioning his car.

8 laps with DRS and fresh tire is piss poor from Lando,fail to overtake on the straight,dive bomb max ,run him off track, max move to left and Lando turn into max is very poor. Talk about that.. he gained 5 Seconds from a bad pit stop fail to capitalize instead he wants to run max off track… he knows max will get him in drs range on the next lap.

Unpopular opinion. While Max is at fault for the incident, Lando easily could had been named at fault if Max hadn’t avoided contact on the earlier dive bomb attempts.

@AmericasChoice

2 күн бұрын

It is racing.

@TheYorkshireGeordie

2 күн бұрын

It's not controversial it's r****ded

@F1ll1nTh3Blanks

2 күн бұрын

That's racing. Max was too aggressive with his defence and Lando was too aggressive with the attack but ultimately Max caused the crash and that's the end of it.

@tarettime9392

2 күн бұрын

Max didn’t avoid contact on the dive bombs. Those were quality attempts. On the other hand they didn’t work because max was moving under braking and overtook off track to keep position. The only way a collision would’ve happened sooner is if max drove even more poorly

@Rydabomb

Күн бұрын

I agree, if the other driver has to take avoiding action, a penalty should be given. Since when did forcing drivers of the track become "hard racing" perez should have got a penalty on lap 1 aswell

Max's fault... sure, was a huge mistake? fk no... Alonso's move on Zhou was far worse...Max's move was just unfortunate. before that Lando also went in recklessly on the inside in the hairpin and Max had to avoid (driving wide) and extra heavy break to avoid Lando... overall... good racing m8... extreme, but that's exactly how it should be.

Many drivers have overtaken Max before, it's no problem if you're fast enough, but if it's 50:50 Max won't let them pass easily.

Please look back at the Steering input of Max Straight line to the racing line. Norris having no problem going over the white line. Norris had still room to move over.

Race was so wild you guys had to drop this pod the same day lol.

Shame about Piastri’s deleted lap, he would have inherited the win

@kevinlaguna2023

2 күн бұрын

Future world champ honestly

@EireannachNathair

2 күн бұрын

I don't think he would like to INHERIT his first GP win, especially when it takes to his teammate be eliminated in front of him.. Oscar with his tire attitude should be qualifying in front of Lando, he should have better first laps to show his raw speed. Now it's just about him toasting his tires with no relevant reason.

@thunderbolt854

2 күн бұрын

Whats the shame ? He could not keep it between the lines. Lost it fair and square.

@Wolfywolf7

2 күн бұрын

​@@thunderbolt854 If that was the case, he must have touched the gravel, since that's why the gravel trap is there...oh, but he didn't.

@thunderbolt854

2 күн бұрын

@@Wolfywolf7 the gravel trap is not a catch all and its not a rule enforced.. if ypu are touching the gravel you are ridiculously wide and cheating at that point. The rule is to keep atleast 1 wheel within the white lines. And he unfortunately crossed the line completely. If you still want to argue with the clearly laid put rule what can i say 🤷‍♂️

FIA took ages to state Lando had a 5sec penalty long before the incident

Max doesnt have to leave a cars width on the inside of the white line, if there’s a kerb there you’re allowed to squeeze a driver onto the kerb. By that logic Hamilton was 100% at fault for forcing Sainz off the track in Spain when he forced Sainz onto the kerb. The cars are so wide they use the kerbs when battling and Lando had 3/4 of a car to avoid contact and stay on the track Edit: So apparently the rule actually is a cars width to the white line but it’s never enforced. Some examples I can think of off the top of my head is Russell forced Piastri onto the kerb in the chicane at Suzuka, Sainz forced Alonso onto the inside kerb at China, Sainz forced Hamilton onto the kerb in T1 at Spain, then Hamilton forced Sainz onto the kerb in T2. None of those were given a penalty and actually Alonso got a penalty even though he was “forced off the track” via that rule

@steffighter144

Күн бұрын

Yeah that is why max got a 10 sec penalty and was at fault

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

It was slightly Max's fault by the definition. But I totally agree with you, HAM was applauded for that move and squeezed him out. But Lando was behind Max at the 50m marker for both dive bombs. And get it. Max used to do that, but then they changed the rules. Lando was way too clumsy in the sprint and these "overtaking attempts"

@gabehorn69420

Күн бұрын

@@steffighter144Alonso got 3 penalty points for bumping into Sainz in the China sprint. Stewards aren’t always right

@gabehorn69420

Күн бұрын

@@ThommyOchoWhat part of his move did they have an issue with? I just haven’t heard what part of it was outside the rules

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

@@gabehorn69420 the anti-max camp couldnt stop talking about "move under braking". apparently it is about the code of conduct with regards to braking and steering. When are you allowed to do what. I have seen worse. I find that Lando exaggerated when complaining about Max's defending. I didnt see him weaving left to right. There were maybe tiny movements but come on. We see that every race weekend. often unpunished. Ocon vs. Alonso was worse.

7 days ago: Norris pushed Max with 2 wheels on the grass. Nobody gives a crap. Max and Lando making jokes about it. Today: Little touch which sadly made Norris retire and Max lose the win. The entire internet 💣💣💥💥

@kd6558

2 күн бұрын

Facts

@oxonomy2372

2 күн бұрын

Last week, if Max would have crashed out or even if he didn’t still overtake Lando, there would definitely have been a lot more said about it, Jolyon Palmer would be drawing lines to see if Lando left a cars width or not. But seeing as Max still got ahead and Lando lost out it was just seen as a first lap incident.

@asian_sammy2022

2 күн бұрын

Right on

@mutleyeng

2 күн бұрын

not your place to decide for other people what they get upset about though is it. It was Max's fault, and he put someone out the race because of it - if they choose to not get upset when it happens to someone else, so what, this incident was still Max's fault

@novemberindia2591

2 күн бұрын

The thing about it is either way Max was going to lose the win whether he took another driver out of the race or not. Norris was all over him. He had to drive like '21 again just so someone wouldn't beat him, I'm just disappointed he hasn't changed and become more respectful. Additionally Norris shouldn't have pushed him onto the grass but crucially, there was no collision, nobody had damage, nobody's race was ruined and nobody was put out of the race when the win was on. The 2 incidents are not the same.

race review is here before meme review means that the race cooked 😂😂😂

It's not only the squeezing, its the change of direction from right to left under braking when he saw Lando going around the outside. He also tried taking Lando out after the incident that no one is talking about. They've also set a precedent with the Hamilton/Verstappen crash and now the Norris/Verstappen crash that the price of taking your rival out the race is 10 seconds.

Lando was too busy fanboying over Max to take note when both Hamilton and Vettle said they treated Max differently on the track. Now he's in Lewis position a la 2021, let him cry to the stewards like an entitled baby. And let Max cook like the ruthless beast he is.😂 Did he think Max was gonna play nice because they're buddies? Ha!

I saw some really aggressive attempts to overtake and some equally aggressive defending, I found it refreshing tbh... Racing!! The real issue is the FIA sitting on that 5 second penalty for such an absurdly long time, which means drivers are having key information witheld that affects their decision-making, it's just disgraceful.

@EireannachNathair

2 күн бұрын

Which 5sec penalty? Norris track limits or Verstappen overtaking off track?

It’s about time we had position drops like in Motogp because time penalties often mean nothing

@ToffepeerTH

2 күн бұрын

Indeed about 3 years to late lol

@tex4523

2 күн бұрын

drive through penally like the long lap penalty in MotoGP. Granted a drive through you lose far more time. but for the blatant offencese in F1 that result in another driver DNF i think drive through penalties are warranted.

@indcredible7839

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, have position drops because a driver you don't like received a penalty lol. It has been this way for as long as F1 has existed, and I'm damn sure you didn't complain about it before today.

@indcredible7839

2 күн бұрын

​@@tex4523 offences aren't looked at with the post offence consequence. They're looked at with the actual move regardless of what happened. Otherwise Hamilton would've gotten a race ban for Silverstone 2021.

@nathanb286

2 күн бұрын

@@indcredible7839 I have thought of it many times, especially during the Mercedes era when everyone was so spread out anyway that when accidents do happen, the penalties meant nothing

"Lap after lap Norris had an amazing run".... So all those lock ups and running off by breaking late never happened... Anyway, the actual banging of wheels was Max fault, however, let's not act like Norris didn't bottle it several times on prior laps and also push things possibly pass a limit which is why he literally had a penalty for track limits because he was abusing that to close the gap.

@ThommyOcho

Күн бұрын

if you brake after the way later than the 50m marker you surprisingly get an amazing run to the apex

i feel like lando was less composed in the car than max throughout that fight until they bumped which was definitely max’s fault but that doesn’t change how lando seemed like he wasn’t good enough to get by and was whining on the radio

Open & shut case, FIA needed to report Lando's +5 second time penalty sooner. Potentially, the outcomes were Lando backing off as every new limit break was +5 and Max reducing the stern defense. They both pushed the rules to be behind or slightly ahead, respectively. /simple

@henrrryyyy

2 күн бұрын

I think it is a little too naïve in this age of F1 [or any age of F1] to expect anything from the FIA... They've been shit for decades.

@OKF_Max

2 күн бұрын

yeah absolutely. FIA and stewards with a clown show again the entire weekend. Why was track limits under investigation even, they follow this rule for 2 or more years now that if you cross the line you are off track. Gaining or losing time or even damage has nothing to do with it anymore. -Hulk Penalty in Sprint for nothing - Perez Lap 1 vs Piastri no penalty - Max Stop 1 unsafe release - Ocon vs Gasly moving under braking - then at least 3-4 divebombs from norris, which if you give Hulk a penalty for, you have to give lando one to. - Max moving under braking - and the crash which was the least contact and would be deemed a racing incident, they gave him 10 sec for

@johnnychimpo7539

2 күн бұрын

Illegal defense*

@pietervanbreda4360

2 күн бұрын

@@johnnychimpo7539 If you are in front you are still faster, why can't you defend?

@whygamewhy

2 күн бұрын

Lol they saved it to the end so they can rrace hard for the fan. Otherwise max would just let norris through and they will lose viewers

As a fan of both Max and Lando, I was hoping they’d keep it clean (I guess I don’t want those two in particular to hate each other). Max was at fault for the incident, but I don’t think it’s as egregious as everyone’s tweets and comments. The moving under the breaking is an issue, but they are both competitors and the goal is to win. They, meaning Max and Lando, will do anything it takes to win. Deep divebombs, squeezing, moving under breaking, aggressive defending, and pushing the rules to the limit are why these guys are such elite and great competitors. I hate it for both of them as a fan, but I understand it.

@nafizjubaer1717

2 күн бұрын

Hey not trying to fight or take sides. But i see alot of comments mentioning Max moving underbraking. But if u look at the telemetry/onboards, u can see Max moves n then brakes. U can say he moved in the braking zone but he never moved while actually braking. I m a sim racer n we pull this move all the time n its usually upto the guy behind to not ram the guy infront. I just wanna see what others r seeing.

@JustinArthQB

2 күн бұрын

@@nafizjubaer1717 I completely get that and the little bit of sim racing I do, I’ll squeeze before I break too. I think it’s a tough one because I hadn’t seen the telemetry data yet. Either way it’s a move I know and love Max for but as a competitor myself, I’d be hard-pressed not to say that it’s a competitors job to push the limits. Lando has plenty of fault in this too. I’d even say it’s just a racing incident and it just sucks it’s between arguably my favorite 2 on the grid. But thanks for your input!

@WillHest

Күн бұрын

@@nafizjubaer1717I have to respectfully disagree. Might not have been every time but most egregious was lap 55 (and I guess the lap they made contact?). They brake around the 100 meter board and Max starts pulling right around the 60 meters. A/V might not be perfectly synced but you can hear the car decelerating before the 100 meter board. No chance he’s not already on the brakes at this point.

@Karpinski29

Күн бұрын

@@JustinArthQBalso a sim racer (& a Lando and max fan too) and have to say that Lando too holds some blame. The kerbing in the outside of that corner is easily driveable and imo, Lando could have seen the squeeze and taken a wider line to undercut max. Sure this is what max was wanting him to do, but with DRS - I think Lando gets him in the straight regardless

@gothicusmaximus5697

Күн бұрын

id say the cheating defending was worse than the actual bang

you already forgot the start of the spanish GP?? there was dust everywhere!!!! lando very innocent, i give you more than enough room!! did max than say as crybaby i dont want to be your friends anymore? lando does exactly the same.

@BrysonDobbins-mz9sk

2 күн бұрын

But it was more than once

After years of waiting the Max haters finally have something to moan about again. It was hard racing. Great to see. We all love this. It’s called RACING ok !!! Lando crying after the race is spoiled prat behavior. Just get on with it and keep having these hard fights. It’s what everybody in the world wants to see. 🔥🔥🔥 Oh and that Silverstone dude who was recently complaining about Max being responsible for declining ticket sales….. he should thank Max on his bare knees after today’s race. 💩