Great review. These days, you can get the lower mileage, previous version of the e-tron for next to nothing. You can get a low mileage 2019 Prestige for around $40k. I have a 2019 after driving a 2020 Tesla Model Y LR, and then a Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited, and I love this car. On road trips, driving in efficiency mode and at reasonable speeds (I.e. 60 - 65mph), I’ve gotten 240 to 260 miles, which is more than I got with the Model Y LR on road trips. Audi is super conservative on range when you turn on Efficiency mode in highway driving. It makes a huge difference. Rest of the time, I get around 210 in summer and around 190 in winter (garage kept). I do live in a high traffic area, so plenty of opportunities to regen unfortunately. Anyway, I highly recommend the old one to folks looking for insanely great luxury at a bargain price.

We just picked up the Q8 Sportback version last weekend of 2023. I've always been an Audi fan, while not the best on paper it ticks my boxes. Only had it less than a week but the only complaint I have is the cup holders are inadequately sized for my travel coffee mug. There are options out there to make things fit. There were some amazing lease deals that really knocked the price down.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Stats are one thing but character can't be measured on a spreadsheet. But yeah, I'm not a fan of the center console.

@dandydoc8386

5 ай бұрын

I have the new Q8 etron and have owned many Audi and BMW vehicles. Many of the German cars have poor cup holders.

Tom, I love your reviews, especially when you include quirky things like your friend's reaction to the light show. Great review, keep it up!

Just saying...good one Tom! Always loving the footage and presentation.

Detailed and comprehensive as usual,thanks!

Cannot agree more about the cupholder. It was something I was hoping they would address in the refresh.

At 60 degrees Fahrenheit I get about 280 miles at 100% charge with mixed city and highway driving, usually exceeding speed limit by 10 MPH. At 30 degrees I get about 230 miles which is an 18% reduction.

@alphonso0077

3 ай бұрын

Will it still work if it is -20F?

It’s so great that you put EV charging etiquette in your videos! Thanks for helping the EV transition Tom!

I have the 2019 eTron, and I love it. This one is too close to the 2019 for me to take it seriously. The 210ish range of mine works great for my needs. But it is an electron guzzlers considering the size of the battery. Only once did I panic about running out of juice while on a road trip to Joshua Tree NP, and I had 30 miles left when I got to charger. Advice: learn your cars “true” range based on how you drive. Plan ahead on long trips by learning where/ when to juice up.

Still the best reviewer on KZread 😀 love these videos from Tom.

Even though I don't really care about most new cars today and have stopped watching reviews from all other channels I always watch every video Tom produces regardless of the vehicle on my TV because Tom has a good narrating voice, cinematography is on point, info is what matters and not useless information used as a filler for run time and I like the PNW scenery (hopefully Tom can incorporate more of it in his videos in the future like when you went to the beach and dug up clams) One car I do care about and haven't seen a review yet is the new gen WRX, when is it happening Tom?

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

I don't like to annoy my friends often and Mariko is camera shy. So there's that. Happy you enjoy the reviews though.

I am waiting for the Q6 etron, PPE architecture and the more modern interior. Do you think we might get to drive it in 2024 here in the States?

@hardyk2010

5 ай бұрын

VW is also desperately waiting for it.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

You know, it's always hard to tell. Automakers are still bruised from the past couple years. We all thought Lyriqs, Blazer EVs and Equinox EVs would be flooding the market by now...

@hardyk2010

5 ай бұрын

@@DrivenCarReviews flooding (with SW issues)

@chillout1109

5 ай бұрын

What if the PPE is delayed? What if they announce a better platform before the PPE launch date? Are you going to "wait" for that one too? I personally prefer driving a current car that I can actually buy today. Manufacturers promise a lot of great future developments that all sound great. I don't want to be waiting forever for that "better" product. Yes, if the "better" product eventually comes, then I will upgrade to it. But in the meantime, life must go on.

@dougcargill6730

5 ай бұрын

I finally saw my first Lyriq last week (in Seattle). It was in the Costco parking lot where you do your TP test.

Great review as usual! 👍🏾

Love the charging station etiquette portion of the video!

Am a current Audi owner of a Q .. SUV when am ready to buy into an EV this is my first choice 💯🤜🏾🙌 great review as always Tom ❤

Thanks! I’ve loved your videos way before even the New York Times! You’ve always been my favorite car reviewer!

Please more EV 😊. I watch your films from Germany. 👍🙂 Many greetings frome here.

@user-nu1vn3yy9s

5 ай бұрын

Bitte, how much 1 kWh costs in Germany - for private consumers? Is the cost the same all 24 hours? PS I learned German electricty is now more than 50% renewable. So at least for 50%+ nothing is burned when Germans charge electric cars. Impressive!

Yup, tough to shoot cars. But one of the BEST things about your videos is that I will never see a soiled, dusty, or dirty surface - SUCH a welcome change from just about everybody else. I know, some people won't care - but it's just so much nicer to see the car well presented, looking better than most vehicles straight from PDI. Thanks Tom. You have spoiled me - now, every time I see other channel's reviews with dirty dusty parts of the car, I think to myself, I can't wait for Tom's review.

Hey Tom. Great review. What would you consider a good deal today on the old etron? Mid 30s good enough?

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

That would make it about half off. If it's well maintained and the range works for you (I saw 190 miles or so) the cabin is a lovely space to spend time.

Thanks!

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks middlerj!

For $10k more than the EV9, this seems very very nice. Granted it's smaller and there are other issues, but it appears this does the luxury part right.

18:05 Thank you Tom.

Wow, battery tech is improving fast.

Tom, I have a question: I am in my mid-60s and have never owned, or driven, a vehicle with anything more than a digital clock. Would it be hard for me to operate all the digital features & functions of a vehicle such as this?

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Well, how are you with a smartphone? The menu structure and flow are similar. Maybe jump into a friends or family member’s vehicle and nose around for a half hour. Or explain your situation to a salesperson. It’s smart to test drive the vehicle AND the interface these days.

The Audi-Oh system?? 📻👏🏻👏🏻

Thanks for the review, Tom! How do you compare the ride quality between this Q8 e-tron and Genesis GV70?

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

I feel like the Audi leans more toward luxury and comfort, the Genesis dials a bit more sport and firmness in. It's not a huge difference. The Audi's air suspension raises it up more than the GV for rugged terrain.

It's good that it finally has decent range. I like the looks on the outside and the inside is mostly good, but I think it's aging. I've never been a fan of the screen for the climate controls. Physical controls are easier to use while driving and I think they are more satisfying to use as well.

Part of the problem with EA chargers is that there are even 150kw chargers to begin with. When you’re on a road trip and need to charge, you’re going to take the one that is open. You’re not going to wait for a 150 to free up while letting a 350 sit vacant. CHAdeMO aside, if they were all 350k units nobody would even have to think about it which stall to pull into.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

That "problem" is hardly unique to EA. In fact most of the charge terminals I see are 150, including Tesla. I think the real issue is education. I encountered a Chevy Bolt owner that went straight to a 350 terminal with 150s available. So I asked him why. He was adamant that the 350 station charged him three times faster. After 10 minutes I walked over and pointed out his 45kW rate (at 25% charge). He said I was a dick.

@user-nu1vn3yy9s

5 ай бұрын

@@DrivenCarReviews Watching how so many Americans hate EVs, I can't understand how US is innovating. So many rednecks, conservatives... it's why US is behind China (!) and most of EU for EV adoption.

@shawnkenney2861

5 ай бұрын

I agree with this aspect as well.

@ajgraham1983

5 ай бұрын

You’re looking at it the wrong way up. Owners need to know their vehicles and know what their max charge rate is. The vast majority of current EV’s won’t see much difference between 150 and 350 chargers because they’ll top out at 170, 200, maybe 250. That’s under ‘ideal conditions’.

@user-nu1vn3yy9s

5 ай бұрын

@@ajgraham1983 so many people obsessed with an extra stop or extra 10-20 min spent charging. As if they were in a race. And as if they would make something super-important in saved 10-20-30-60 minutes. 99% will not.

Thanks for trying to educate about etiquette. Tom, congestion fees and idle fees are far more effective than trying to teach etiquette. Could you do me a favor and lobby EA for additional fees to discourage bad behavior, even for those with free charging plans? I do.

I like these for interior design. A minus though for all the black exterior trim. Bright metal for me. I want some interest vs. monotones. The price is just too high, though.

didnt outofspec show it was zero change in range?

That’s a good looking wagon with a nice interior. The Q8 etron seems absurdly inefficient to go just 220-250 miles on 106kWh. A lot of newer EVs have passed the Audi with better tech for more range and faster charging. Maybe you’d do alright to get a used one a year or two from now.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Yes, I thought the same of the 2020 model. Just saw one of those with 30K miles for $36K. Tempting....

@LongIslandMopars

5 ай бұрын

​@@DrivenCarReviewsDon't do it Tom...😎

@anthonyc8499

5 ай бұрын

@@DrivenCarReviews do it. Your PHEV Cadillac needs replacing.

@strangerdanger8462

5 ай бұрын

​@@anthonyc8499Needs replacing? Why? The car's running fine. In another video he said he'll keep it alongside any new EV he buys.

@anthonyc8499

5 ай бұрын

@@strangerdanger8462 if I hadn't heard Tom say he'd keep the Caddy then it makes sense that he'd replace it with something else.

Just to avoid any misunderstandings, this is the exact same Q8 E-tron as delivered during the whole 2023?

When EVs have to use the same excuse as George Castanza, “IT’S COLD JERRY”. 😂

Once they can get the range up to about 1000 miles and a 5 day charge then I'll start to consider electric vehicles.

like the car but the price is an issue

Do both front seats get massage?

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Yes, says my wife.

Too bad it gets years of free charging - cue the hogging at EA stations. 1000 kWh would make more sense.

Looks nice. Too many screens, but I like that the driver's instrument panel can be used for navigation, this is what these flat screens should be used for. I would prefer a hybrid. I would not even think of buying an EV until the stable market for cheap reprocessed batteries emerges. If my phone battery dies two years after I bought it, and my MacBook shuts off while showing 30% charge, I cannot trust EVs. Not yet.

@user-nu1vn3yy9s

5 ай бұрын

almost any EV comes with 160,000 miles/8 y warranty on battery. Even old models like 2012 Model S and Nissan Leaf were mostly capable of holding 80-90% of capacity after 200-300K miles.

18:52 Tom, you can NOW get a good CPO e-tron for $40-45K. Screaming bargain.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

I just saw a used one for $36K but sold before I could check it out.

Good video. Parking accuracy …not so good.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

I was in a hurry to edge out an ID.4 for the space.

@jeffos8724

5 ай бұрын

We'll let it slide since the video was so thorough

The range is still too short

Just sad the RS model adds nearly nothing to justify the added cost.

@snakeeyes9246

5 ай бұрын

There is no RS model for this. You must be thinking of the S model.

I-Pace beat E-tron to market by 11 months.

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Yes, this is true.

Where are Tesla fanboys?

@epbrown01

5 ай бұрын

To summon them, you have to call something a “Tesla-killer.”

$90k, you gotta be kidding me, no thanks,

Seems like the iX is better for the money. Non withstanding esthetics.

Thanks!

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Mach appreciated

Thanks!

@DrivenCarReviews

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Randall! All the best in 2024.

@randallbrown8346

5 ай бұрын

To you and Martin as well Tom!