2023 Toyota GR Supra 3.0 Premium Exterior: Stratosphere Blue MSRP: $55,650 Options: Driver assist package (Cruise Control, blind spot monitor, rear cross traffic alert, parking sensors) $1195 Carpet Cargo mat $110 Carbon fiber mirror caps $925 Wheel Locks $65 Destination: $1095 Total price as tested: $59,040 Engine: 3.0-liter inline six-cylinder turbo, aluminum block and heads, 24-valve DOC, chain drive, with variable valve timing; 382 hp @ 5,800-6,500 rpm; 368 Ib-ft @ 1,800-5,000 rpm Transmission: 6-speed intelligent Manual Transmission (MT) with rev-matching Drivetrain: Rear-wheel drive with active rear sport differential Suspension: Independent double joint MacPherson-type strut front suspension; independent five-arm multilink rear suspension Brakes: Ventilated disc; 13.7 in. (front), 13.6 or 13.0 in. (rear) Wheels and Tires 19 in. 10-spoke Frozen Gunmetal Gray forged aluminum wheels with 255/35ZR19 (front), 275/35ZR19 (rear) Michelin Pilot Super Sport tires Exterior 6-lens auto-leveling LED headlights (three low-beam, three high-beam) LED front turn signal indicator and Daytime Running Lights (DRL) Matte-black auto-folding, heated outside mirrors with memory function Auto-tilting passenger-side outside mirror (when in reverse) Auto-dimming driver'-side outside mirror LED taillights and rear combination lights LED backup light Aerodynamic underbody panel Dual rear exhaust outlets with brushed stainless steel exhaust tips Interior Black Leather sport seats Power-adjustable sport seats with driver'-seat memory including lumbar and bolster adjustment Heated seats Carbon-fiber interior trim Black leather-wrapped tilt/telescopic 3-spoke steering wheel 8.8-in. full-digital FT LCD gauge cluster including tachometer, speedometer and MID Sports pedals 8.8-in. touchscreen with Supra Command featuring touchpad control with navigation, AM/FM, Digital Audio, SiriusXM®, wireless Apple CarPlay® compatible, voice recognition and USB/Bluetooth® connectivity. Smart Key System remote keyless entry system with Push Button Start Dual zone automatic climate control Auto-dimming rearview mirror with garage door opener Full-color Head-Up Display (HUD) Cruise control Lined, locking glove box Storage net for small items (passenger side) Qi-compatible wireless charging tray with light indicator

@matthewla16

11 ай бұрын

“Total price:59,040.” With only a 40k-50k dealership markup so only a smooth 100k+ Lmaoo

@andrewrayuga6774

4 ай бұрын

I'm in love with this car now. Fun ride. Really enjoyed your discussion about the vehicle during the road trip.

Someone in my neighborhood has a Supra with plates “ISTHATA” and it brings a smile to my face every time I see it

@cgreenfield6655

Жыл бұрын

Is that a BMW? Yes!

@kurejoe854

Жыл бұрын

@@cgreenfield6655 Is that a crybaby 10yo supra fan ? Yes ! :DD Bro get some and dont be mad for CAR xdd

@JohnVillalta

Жыл бұрын

Writing that down

@hectichive889

Жыл бұрын

@@cgreenfield6655 Bet you don't got a car in your garage except for maybe a Little Tikes...

@chino3001

11 ай бұрын

@@cgreenfield6655someone’s poor? Yes !

I've hit 39.1 mpg on a 350 mile all highway roadtrip in the auto. I couldn't believe it when I hit 34 mpg's without really trying, then I tried to see what it would top out at. I was on 93 octane. I was just utterly shocked at the efficiency. The great mpg's also makes the range on this car huge.

@jaekimchi

Жыл бұрын

B58 is a gem for sure.

@apexfien

Жыл бұрын

That MPG efficiency is actually important these days.

@jakeq3530

Жыл бұрын

@@apexfien Thanks Joe!

@touayaaj84

Жыл бұрын

I average 34 on 70-75mph

@mordredm980

Жыл бұрын

B58 and that ZF is something else. I am on a road trip for moving with my new m440 gran coupe. That car is at least 1000lbs heavier than the Supra and the whole cabin is filled with my heavy luggages. Still averaging a 32mpg when I go 75mph using acc which means lots of braking and acceleration.

A scholar and a gentleman for knocking the rocks off your boots before getting into the car. I dig your channel man, the supra is fantastic. I went from 2020 to 2023 and the refinement is very noticeable. I do miss the crackles and pops from the 2 port 2020. But the 6 port in the 2023 sounds more raw and deep. The handling is improved quite a bit in the 2023. Supra is amazing.

The best part about this car is the interior which looks exactly like pre 2022 bmw. The perfect mix of modern technology with screens and manual buttons in my opinion. This interior is something youll never get frustrated with.

@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947

Жыл бұрын

The interior is actually a Toyota design and layout. I can even tell by the dashboard design and the steering wheel. The only BMW stuff in the interior, according to the chief designer, is the small switchgear.

@username8644

Жыл бұрын

@@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947 It looks identical to the modern bmw interior pre 2022. It's the exact same layout and same screen, same screen size, software on the screen looks the same, etc. The button for sport mode is identical, too.

@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947

Жыл бұрын

@Username The screen and buttons (which are only small switchgear) was the only BMW stuff in the interior, according to the car's chief designer (Nobuo Nakamura). He confirmed that Toyota had the freedom to do their own overall interior style and layout. The layout gives me a lot of Lexus vibes, and even parts like the steering wheel, materials, and seats look very Toyota.

@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947

Жыл бұрын

@Username I've compared them side by side and even been to many car interiors. BMWs are normally known for their plush and luxury interiors, with especially a lot of stitching everywhere. Though, the designs look more generic than what this has. The Supra's interior design and style here remind me a lot of Toyota, from the dashboard to steering wheel to the materials and the way everything is laid out. It's only parts like the switchgear (E.G. The shifter) that reminds me of BMW. The car is a joint collaboration between Toyota and BMW, so the influence of the two automakers blended together is noticeable.

@username8644

Жыл бұрын

@@thecriticalthinkeroutsidet4947 Bmw interiors are typically very minimal and very little plush so I have no idea what you are talking about. I assure you this interior is exactly like a pre 2022 bmw. Unless you look at some bmw M8 or M4s with all the extra options. That's not what I'm talking about those aren't comparable at all to the supras price point. Edit: I sat in a 2019 bmw 7 series for years and been in the supra at auto shows several years in a row. I promise you that they are almost identical. This supra is pretty much a 5 series interior.

Also, substitute topher is correct that they made changes to the JBL sound system. They also made changes to suspension and the feel on tight roads for 23+ (I believe they call it Hairpin+ mode).

@seb5945

Жыл бұрын

Is it just for the manuals or all models?

@naten555

Жыл бұрын

@@seb5945 all models

@Al_Phabet

Жыл бұрын

What did they change with the sound sytem?

@Barbwire710

Жыл бұрын

@@Al_Phabet just the tuning I believe, not the actual speakers.

You can preprogram or recode several things with a OBDLink CX. I recoded mine to have the infotainment in additional brightness, and for that alone it was worth the money. I also recoded it to always start the engine in Sport mode, leave the start/stop function always off, and have the right side mirror tilt at various degrees in reverse mode. Really worth the money…There are many videos on this. Toyota should have figured this out 4 years ago.

@CMiY0

Жыл бұрын

I think you can do this because its basically a BMW iDrive system which is pretty friendly to tweak with. Not sure if you can customize the stock Toyota system as much.

Had a '21 and it was the best car I've ever owned. Hate that I got rid of it and wish prices on the manuals weren't so exorbitant. Need this car back in my life with the MT. Great video as always.

@bskok82

Жыл бұрын

I just did a search on autotrader within a 500 mile radius of the DFW metroplex, and the few MT I could find were all price egregiously high. It's a bummer because at MSRP I could almost be talked into doing something stupid like signing up for another car payment, but I refuse to pay $20k of market adjustment on anything. I'll wait, or go without.

woke up just in time for this i love the mk5, good stuff man

The camera position and full screen mode really made this a great video. And the great scenery also. I'll be subscribing! Toyota's reputation is a big selling point over the rest of the brands.

It’s interesting you mentioned a better sounding sound system. When I replaced the stock speakers to the BAVSound upgrade kit, I noticed the stock speakers were the Harmon kardon speakers found in BMWs. Could be worth looking at!

Man those backroads are beautiful.

we are back with subsitute Topher......" hi" lmao. love these guys

i used to have a manual is300 a while back with an aftermarket exhaust and surprisingly this manual supra has such a similar note it almost sounds the same lol

@JustKicks786

Жыл бұрын

Inline 6 goodness

Beautiful color,i have everything in blue. Manual is a big W!!!

the mk5 is SUCH a cool car. def one of the best supras made besides the mk2 imo

I live 20 mins from there! Good stuff

I live in Blacklick Ohio man you should check the roads out here, I take my si on these roads on a daily basis. Some really good driving out here.

@2:58 I noticed you “kicked off” the debris from your shoes. I appreciate you for doing that. I do the exact same thing, always. Respect.

Love that KITH beanie. His fit 🙌

so excited I ordered mine in white 2023 arriving soon .. love these reviews made up my mind

@dogeofamp6037

Жыл бұрын

Lucky I’ll buy it in 4 years and mod the crap out of it I’m saving money for it rn got 6k so far donate plz 😢

@bradhaines3142

Жыл бұрын

white is the worst color on a car but i hope you love it

@bradhaines3142

Жыл бұрын

​@@dogeofamp6037 just depends how much payment you want to swing

@ploxyzero

Жыл бұрын

@@bradhaines3142 white is the best color IMO. it's all subjective lmao

@naten555

Жыл бұрын

why do people say they order them. You can't order them. Dealer has no choice what they get.

7:29 the in-sync-ness is crazy

Nitro yellow rules. I don’t normally like yellow cars but that Supra in yellow is amazing. Great review!

B58 on its way to truly legendary status as an engine.

Right on time 😊

In car and driver's dyno of the 2021 model, the Supra made 388hp to the WHEELS.

@Mrpancake72

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if it's because the Mt might have a more direct link and less loss to drivetrain, but a few Mt supras have been dynoed and they put 405-420 to the wheels which is nuts.

Good to see you guys enjoying the vehicle responsibly and not getting too crazy.

I just want to say that at @3:09 when you guys say that this supra is the only B58 that comes with a manual transmission that's incorrect. The F30 (2013-2019 3 series) 340i comes with a B58 and is offered in a 6 speed manual. Same with the F32 (2013-2019 4 series) 440i, it also has a B58 that offers a 6 speed manual transmission. Granted they are slightly different versions but that's because they are older models and are updated throughout the years. Still the same engine though. Just thought I'd let everyone know so there isn't any false information.

@buzzyinurface

8 ай бұрын

Those were early B58s, and by all accounts the 8 speed ZF is so much better that it’s not worth getting the manual. I’ve driven a manual F30 340i and it wasn’t very impressive. The ZF8 still shocks me at how quick it shifts even to this day, 50,000mi later That said I wouldn’t buy anything but a manual A90

@nemanjaradonjic_1988

7 ай бұрын

Exactly I was gonna make this comment lol when he said that I’m like ummmmmmm no 😂

@hughfh

6 ай бұрын

I thought he said "currently available", as in to buy one brand new now. For sure manuals were available from BMW themselves with the B58 in previous gen cars.

Awesome 👍😎 Cape Town South Africa 🌍♥️

my dream car.

i’m really looking forward to see in our manila roads a whopping manual supra

ill tell you what I think of stratosphere blue, it's outta this world

That’s it, I’m buying one

Awesome drive. I've now test driven the MT Z and AT Supra plus been owning the MT GR86 for over a year. I think it's amazing how completely different these cars are. I found the Supra to be in a completely different performance class. It feels super special, makes all the right noises and I think it's one hell of a bargain. I would probably get it in AT just because of how great the engine and transmission combo is. The Z was a bit weird. I loved how understated everything felt, and I loved the smoothness of the driving experience. But man you sit higher than some sedans in that car and the so called performance seats were just uncomfortable to me. I could only justify the Z if it was priced at least 10 to 20% lower. I do have to say that driving these powerful yet bloated cars does make the GR86 feel that much more special. To the extent that I've decided to keep it and probably try to own it alongside the Supra. To me for that fun weekend drive, nothing will beat the purity of the GR86 (and maybe the miata). There really is no replacement for simplicity and lightness.

@socal2384

Жыл бұрын

I'm in the market right now and torn between a manual Z and Supra 3.0. Which one do you recommend? Which one is faster and more fun to drive? I like the looks and interior of the Z more but supra seems to have better build quality. What are your thoughts? Thanks

@milesfathi

Жыл бұрын

@so cal 23 I'd say the Z was a lot less serious, which is a good or a bad thing depending on what you want. It was definitely more of a GT car. Smooth, understated, you sit high like in a sedan. The turbo also felt a bit old-school, in that it hits pretty hard. The Supra is a proper performance machine. You sit low, you have poor visibility, you basically make compromises because you want to be in a performance car. I personally felt like the Supra was half a class above the Z in terms of performance and handling.

@stms4411

Жыл бұрын

Weight is the enemy of fun. I’ve owned a number of BMWs and they typically make great motors, but I’ll happily stick with my GR86

@socal2384

Жыл бұрын

@STMs I sold my r8 v10 for this reason. Fun in straight line but boring at low speeds. Want something more agile. Can't decide supra or z

@stms4411

Жыл бұрын

@@socal2384 I’m biased, but I’d get a brz or gr86 again vs either of those two. The Z isn’t a sports car, it’s a big GT. The Supra will feel all of the 700lbs heavier than my car. How much thrust does one need to have fun behind the wheel?

sounds like an oldschool BMW from the 80s & 90s with M30 engine..... and that bridge reminds me of the movie Beetlejuice 😁

DUUUUUDE its the topher from tedwards pov thats craaazzy

Now if my dealership could get mine 😩😂All the review videos makes me want it even more!

@Zayduzit

Жыл бұрын

You and me both, I’ve been waiting for over a year and doubting I’m getting mine. God luck 🤞🏼

@ezioahmet4192

Жыл бұрын

@@Zayduzit Same here! I put money down like.. May 10th last year? I was 3rd in line at my dealership, and I know my dealership has only gotten 3 in, with the 3rd being a 2.0. Hopefully we gets ours soon! I know BMW is still struggling with parts, so the Supra and Z4 aren't coming as fast as they should because they're focusing on high selling models

@Zayduzit

Жыл бұрын

@@ezioahmet4192 yea I’m number one in my dealership no dice. I wasn’t aware of the bmw parts issue. Good sign is that at least your dealership has gotten some, mine hasn’t been able to get a single one. Nothing but gr86s and a gr Corolla lol. Best of luck my dude 🤘🏼

@ezioahmet4192

Жыл бұрын

@@Zayduzit Honestly, I wouldn't exactly pass up a GR Corolla 😂 But it sucks there hasn't been any at yours. I thought to check about the parts supply chain a couple months ago, since I do forget it's made by BMW alongside the Z4. So if Z4 is struggling for parts, safe to assume the Supra is too

@jondrew1

Жыл бұрын

I have a deposit down as well. This wait is killing me!!!! I haven’t been this excited for a new car since the E92 M3 came out

Every year they make changes to the supra 😊

thing is quickkkkkk i want one

I really enjoyed the video. It was a nice conversation you guys were having, I felt present with you guys in the Supra. I own a 2020 STI that brings me so much joy, but the idea of owning a Supra is extremely tempting. You only live once…

@williamnguyen6859

3 ай бұрын

Same here. Got a 2011 STI and the Supra is tempting me more and more

@EagleLogic

3 ай бұрын

@@williamnguyen6859 yeah tough decision. I don’t wanna regret selling my STI. Did it once before and regretted it. Nice to have for the winter. And not to mention they don’t make STIs anymore. But the Supra… the only real answer is two cars haha

I’m disappointed that you didn’t come and visit.

10:07 I’d argue auto controls that symphony even better :)

It takes off so nice seen it live and definitely thought hemi how it takes off like the silver color

That covered bridge reminded me of Beetlejuice! Great video!

how is the ergonomics of this car - particularly the manual transmission for tall guys?

13:10 Great job controlling the steer out. Thing is so peppy. 😂 Man i need to drive one.

I wish they would offer the M340i with a manual ...

Interesting scenery along the way. Maybe that is the norm, wherever you are, but there were sure a lot of buildings very close to the roadway.

Would love to see you test drive the Camaro LT1 with a manual

I watched 13 minutes and that was enough for me to know that I want a Supra. This is everything I'm looking for. I would prefer a manual for this car.

I noticed your watch…very nice. Now, next step to up your game is a Rolex Submariner. Very versatile. Can slum it with jeans and a T-shirt, or dress up a Tuxedo. Get one. You’ll thank me. You have THE BEST auto review channel on KZread! Admiration from Canada!🇨🇦

The transmission on them are butter, super easy and pretty forgiving. Pedal could be lower but it’s so nice

A lot what you say about driving this car also describes my e46 323ci

This or S2000? P.s. beautiful backdrop for this drive by the way!👌

I’m thinking of pulling the trigger on one of these. Manual transmission for me. Idk that it’s not as fast as the auto.

Did they retune the suspension for all 2023/2024 models or only for manuals?

I think it should be more like a Cayman with analog gauges and moe the screen to the lower part of the console would be better. They should also revise the nose to have less of a "Schnozz" look.

Would you guys pick this car long term wise over the new 2023 civic type r? Or would you take the type r over this?

Averaged 21 MPG in 3300 miles since I picked it up, majority highway miles lol Problem is I don't like being in 6th on highway lol

I see that nice Speedmaster on your wrist 😉

Does anyone else feel the acceleration from watching this? Because i do. Dying for this car.

it is sure that it feels like good to drive manual transmission car on the countryside road.

OK i have to ask, i drove a 2022 2.0 supra. The seats pushed in on my ribcage. I am 6 foot an 184. Does this happen on this model?

Here to see your impression on this vs. our BRZs. Zygrene seemed to like the Supra’s manual over the BRZ Manual which I found surprising. Also, the wheels on the GR86/BRZ look just like the Supra’s!

@villusive

Жыл бұрын

the gr86 wheels look a little cheaper

@Barbwire710

Жыл бұрын

@@villusiveAgreed, it’s a cheaper car. It I meant the overall designs are similar between GR86/BRZ, GR Corolla, and GR Supra wheels which surprised me.

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

@@villusive Wheels are an easy fix though.. Take them stockers off, wrap em up, and store em in the garage..

Hopefully there will be a video of 2023 Nissan Z

I love that you're in the Buckeye state. Some of the best driving roads around. I live in southeast Ohio and own a 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT. Wayne National forest is in my backyard. My Spyder isn't as fun as maybe a Miata on the winding country roads. But it's responsiveness and quickness make driving on both state routes 26 and 7 through Wayne National Forest.a whole lot of fun. I hope you enjoy your time in Ohio and find us friendly. Even though your from that state up north lol The Supra is a beautiful car and looks like it would be awesome to drive.

That is a nice looking car. The Toyota team came up with some nice colors for their entire lineup. Thanks for the review.

@rogerigez21

Жыл бұрын

*the BMW team

@MaxAethon

Жыл бұрын

@@rogerigez21 No, don't be stupid. The Toyota team would decide which exterior colours are offered with the Supra. MF needs to get over the zUpRa shit, it's been 4 years, get over it.

@username8644

Жыл бұрын

The paints look like BMW paints. Well pre 2021 bmw, before they ruined all their cars.

@ady007pl

7 ай бұрын

i think most of manufacturers has this blue. GM is called Hyper Blue

was this filmed in upstate NY?

How is "a lot less tail happy" a good thing? I want it to be tail happy

nice speedmaster

Great video just the flickering of the instrumentation gets a bit much ..😎

Best sport car to come out in the last 5 years.

🍺 everytime this guy says “zed F” like he’s Andrew Frankle or Chris Harris.

Can you still make the exhaust pop with an auto?

Does the touch screen blink all the time?

its a nice simple interior. I just wish it faced the driver like the previous generation Supra did

I see people saying the gr86 is a much funner car. I wonder what’s the thoughts on this

Really like the looks and the presence this car has. I may be in the minority but I wish they made the 6 speed available with the 4 cylinder. I prob would've got the car already. 255 german hp and 295 torque is more than enough for me in a car this size. I know I won't use all that extra power of the 6 and I'd save some money. And the car would probably be more controllable with the lower output.

@bearclaw5115

Жыл бұрын

True, it really makes around 300hp. Just as the six hits 425+. I love the looks of this car and would love the chance to own it at a lower price (and less weight over the front).

@Rudenbehr

16 минут бұрын

If you could afford it then it would remove any desirability

Im much happier with the ZF. Had manuals for years, auto is much faster and more exciting. Not to mention its nice to have 2 hands on the wheel at all times for a 400+hp car....

Badass

Can you do a Cadillac DTS? (The last true Cadillac)

Sweet Z4

OMG, your have the same exact voice!!!!

Would this car work for a daily? Do you like this more than the CTR?

@bearclaw5115

Жыл бұрын

He said it would if you can deal with two seats.

when it will be released in the philippines?

Nice kith beanie

The fact it still uses the BMW infotainment system from like 7 years ago lol

There’s Toyota lesxses bmw suberu that redone the same seat belt alarm

I have a 2023 Supra. When you get out of the vehicle, merely touch the button in the door and the trunk will open if you know you need the trunk open.

Sounds like it kept the BMW 'chime'

Toyota's tuning of the JBL system was atrocious for a ton of different models/year's. I had a 2014 xle v6 Camry and the dealer even admitted he didn't know how it could sound so bad.

What would fix the rev hang? Lighter flywheel?

@TheTopher

Жыл бұрын

A tune

can you please do more vids on the manual 2022 gr86

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

Look in his archives.. He owns a 22 BRZ manual

Great bmw review guys, love that z4 transmission from Europe. I hope the supra comes out soon.

Ughhhh.. Lost me at 'rev hang'.. I'm still waiting for the revs to drop on my mk7.5 GTI and I sold that thing 2 years ago..

@theredsalmon612

Жыл бұрын

What did you end up getting instead?

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

@@theredsalmon612 After the GTI I went to an FK8 CTR for about a year.. great FWD car, but the pedals were too far for heel n toe.. I bought it anyway because it was a good deal (2021 CPO w/2k miles for $39k in 4/2021), so I got it anyway. Drove it for about 6 months, put 10k miles on it, and CarMax offered me $47k.. couldn't say no lol. Went to a more 'analog' and extremely better sounding car.. 2018 STI Type RA.. hydraulic steering and the shifter goes right into the trans, unlike on FWD cars.. Then my need for 4 doors went away, so I went with a highly maintained 987.1 Cayman S for $32k last summer.. best driving car I've owned.. revs drop like the housing market in 09, lol.

@Magic_Vince

Жыл бұрын

only in 1st

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

@@Magic_Vince From the video, you can see it has it virtually all gears.

I thought the Pilot Super Sports were outdated and replaced by the Pilot Sport 4s. Why wouldn’t Toyota just use that instead of the older tire?

@FSXflyermaster

Жыл бұрын

Because the car was engineered around the Pilot Super Sports

How much gas dose it take?

why does the display blink a lot?

Great review as usual! In the 50k range not sure anything compares.

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

New? No.

@apexfien

Жыл бұрын

@@dre32pitt Been offered msrp at this point so yea high range 50s. Yes.

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

@@apexfien The rev hang is a bummer to me. I'd go with something used

@brq4cars

Жыл бұрын

@@dre32pitt Are you liking your own comments? lol

@dre32pitt

Жыл бұрын

@@brq4cars lol, nah. It ain't that serious.

i think i prefer the sound of the inline 6 compared with the VQ V6 of the Z. The Z is just too quiet and sounds like a 4 cylinder