2023 Suzuki V-Strom 800DE - A refeshing new Adventure Bike from Suzuki

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The 2023 Suzuki V-Strom 800DE is the latest bike to enter the growing middleweight adventure market. The 776cc parallel-twin engine offers plenty of power and torque on paper, but how does it stack up in the real world where it matters? I spent a couple of weeks riding the 800DE on and off-road to see how it compares to its competition. Has Suzuki come up with a real middleweight Adventure bike contender? Let's find out.
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00:00 - Introduction & Walkaround
03:05 - Engine & Performance
07:44 - Suspension & Handling
09:56 - Off-Road Riding
15:08 - Ergonomics
16:02 - What's the windscreen like?
17:40 - Conclusions, Who is it for? and what does it cost?

Пікірлер: 76

  • @ianbrown1387
    @ianbrown138711 ай бұрын

    Good honest review, enjoyed it. I've watched all the 800 vids as have bought one. Nice to know what other people think to it. No one ever mentions the radiator guard that comes standard to. Its only plastic but saves you buying one

  • @bigp9779
    @bigp97799 ай бұрын

    Seriously good fun! That's the type of off road riding thats just nice and relaxing, bravo! 👏

  • @turinhorse
    @turinhorse10 ай бұрын

    Just got mine. LOVE IT

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    10 ай бұрын

    Enjoy!

  • @allanmason7544
    @allanmason754411 ай бұрын

    great vid again thankyou

  • @acgadventures90
    @acgadventures9011 ай бұрын

    To be fair the off road test you did in this video is exactly what this bike was intended for. Simple adventure that the majority of people will be doing on this sort of bike. Good stuff

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Cheers, those were my thoughts too.

  • @teneretraveller8980
    @teneretraveller898011 ай бұрын

    Loiked at it very hard before plumping for a nearly new dl 650xt, which came fully loaded, obviously for much less money. But. I like it a lot, and if the rumoured version with tubeless 19/17 spoked wheels ( like the 650 or 1000, i guess), it's probably my next bike. By then givi will probably be making racks to take my luggage, and i can transfer my barkbusters. It does need a mainstand though, especially as it's tubes, and chain drive in it's current format. But that is an excellent review. Ride safe, happy travels 👍

  • @tonygolding2274
    @tonygolding22748 ай бұрын

    Have to say pal that’s the best comprehensive honest real world review I’ve seen on the DE , well done very impressive work by yourself, 👍👍🙋🏻‍♂️

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    8 ай бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @roadwarrior8560
    @roadwarrior856010 ай бұрын

    Looks the perfect engine to step up to from the DL650. new model rumoured for launch this Autumn, Vstrom 800 with cast wheels, 19-17 and hopefully cruise control.

  • @blackskunk54

    @blackskunk54

    8 ай бұрын

    No cruise on 800RE

  • @benkelly2190
    @benkelly219011 ай бұрын

    Nice one Tony.👍🏻

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @Roger_Ramjet
    @Roger_Ramjet11 ай бұрын

    Great review BTW

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @jjnewman65
    @jjnewman6511 ай бұрын

    Nice one Tony. Another great adventure motorcycle. They are so well made across this range. I guess it comes down to what Japanese fanboy you are?

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Yep, agreed Jamie, but it look like Suzuki are upping their game at the moment. Both the 800DE and GSX-8S are great bikes to ride

  • @angels731
    @angels73111 ай бұрын

    Good review; always liked the Suzuki vstroms and this appears to be a good step up in usability. For off road I'd get rid of the vulnerable quickshifter and have cruise control instead for touring.

  • @IRQ1Conflict

    @IRQ1Conflict

    11 ай бұрын

    Keep the quick shifter. Just put on a throttle lock.

  • @terryomara9403
    @terryomara940311 ай бұрын

    Great vid

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Cheers Terry

  • @mono6906
    @mono690611 ай бұрын

    I agree with your review ... bought this bike 60kg heavier than the previous one : my back decided because much more confortable. The weight difference feels much less when riding.. To reduce the engine heat, (road use) I removed the bash guard : better ventilation And finally I found the windfield too noisy ; so on the lowest position by placing foam between the plastic of the headlight and the windshield, the noise greatly decreased... (higher positions: more foam)

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @ramiroa.albernazd.2349
    @ramiroa.albernazd.2349Ай бұрын

    Excelentes comentários. Essa Suzuki faz sentido para mim. Aqui BR 🇧🇷

  • @jackchen9803
    @jackchen98038 ай бұрын

    Hi sir..shoutout for always producing fun n nice videos for riders!!! Based on one of yr previous videos regarding the SW MOTECH side rack with kriega soft pannier.. is there a setup for this Suzuki 800 DE?

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes, SW-Motech have the pro carriers available for the 800DE

  • @blackskunk54
    @blackskunk548 ай бұрын

    Excellent review as you agree with everything I thought whilst riding. More fun to ride than my Transalp (oh dear). Fantastic engine, plenty of torque, brakes v good, seat a bit softer than most, dash v good, looks good in the flesh, quality v good, quickshifter is awesome (what clutch?) Looking forward to riding the RE and will probably go for that. Bike has a lot of character. Well done Suzuki.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    8 ай бұрын

    Many thanks!

  • @blackskunk54

    @blackskunk54

    7 ай бұрын

    RE too small for me, so another DE demo looks likely

  • @stevesanelli90
    @stevesanelli9011 ай бұрын

    Hi Tony, sorry for the late comment. I actually can’t wait for you to ride the 8S to hear your thoughts on this compared to the Hornet. The Honda will always win on price, and in these tough times, that plays a part for most. The DE is a great bike spec wise, but again the Transalp is cheaper too. But, it doesn’t have some of the features compared to the Strom, just on price & power. Not that you need it up top. Take care & thanks for your content & work👍🙌

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    It's coming up soon! They are quite similar bikes overall, I must admit I think i prefer the mid range grunt of the Suzuki, but i'd really need to ride them back to back. Yep its horses for courses, i don't think anyone would be disappointed with either the 800DE or Transalp

  • @stevesanelli90

    @stevesanelli90

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mancavemoto perhaps we need 2 Tonys’ 😉😎 to sample each at the same time & then swap bikes🙌

  • @brucekendall52
    @brucekendall5211 ай бұрын

    I would say suzuki have a winner on their hands here.Just a pity it does not have cruise control.Cheers.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes one shortcoming for a lot of people

  • @Dan-56
    @Dan-5611 ай бұрын

    I always enjoy your “real world” reviews, done in a way most of us ride 👍! I really wouldn’t be revenge the nuts off it on the road, and I surly won’t be launching it off jumps off road 😆! So those types of reviews are of no use to me 😉.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks Dan

  • @philemon2802
    @philemon28029 ай бұрын

    Seems like a nice intermediate bike from Suzuki finally.

  • @vaughanboyce3702
    @vaughanboyce370211 ай бұрын

    The 800 weighs the same as my 2018 1000xt and it has spoked 19/17" setup which overall works better for road/gravel. If don't get the 21" on the 800 if your buying this bike for mainly off-road you're brought the wrong bike you'd be better off on a dr650.

  • @thodoris3790

    @thodoris3790

    10 ай бұрын

    next years it will come with 17/19 version

  • @ruahinesrider
    @ruahinesrider11 ай бұрын

    Sounds great & not big 1200-1250 Adv bike.Interesting to see how it compares to a Transalp 700 or Tenere 700.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    I've just collected a loan Tenere 700, so it will be an interesting comparison

  • @oxyg3n600

    @oxyg3n600

    11 ай бұрын

    I had Tenere World Raid for a month. Bought it new. Everyone said that it has "a superb suspension, much better than regular T7". Well guess what... this superb suspension is the worst suspension I have experienced. On the contrary.. the 800 DE suspension is great. Plush and comfy. Tested the DE also. Sold the T7WR.

  • @ruahinesrider

    @ruahinesrider

    11 ай бұрын

    @@oxyg3n600 What you thinking of getting now Suzuki or still testing?

  • @oxyg3n600

    @oxyg3n600

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ruahinesrider I'm going to get it. I will also order puig touring screen with 2.0 deflector.

  • @ruahinesrider

    @ruahinesrider

    11 ай бұрын

    @@oxyg3n600 Sounds great,enjoy.

  • @filippochinello9848
    @filippochinello9848Ай бұрын

    Would you choose this (or the DE version) over a BMW GS 800 2024?

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    Ай бұрын

    I’ve not ridden the most recent 800GS, so can’t really offer an opinion. This engine is really nice though.

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
    @user-sw2lv3zp6o11 ай бұрын

    Looks decent. Nice colour. A little heavy for the engine size, perhaps but, as you say, it has midrange grunt. I like a flexible engine. Nice dash. 1990 [Nick J]

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    The weight is one of the few drawbacks, its not really that noticeable, but then i've not had to pick it up! ;)

  • @blackskunk54

    @blackskunk54

    7 ай бұрын

    I didnt notice weight

  • @simulacrae
    @simulacrae10 ай бұрын

    It seems like a great bike and it’s proving to be popular, but the lack of cruise control is annoying, especially when the bike already is ride by wire. Suzuki should have put their IMU from their 1050de on this bike as well. No real reason not to.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    10 ай бұрын

    I guess if they add Cruise control and an IMU, the 1050DE becomes potentially less attractive. maybe its about range differentiation?

  • @simulacrae

    @simulacrae

    10 ай бұрын

    @@mancavemoto perhaps, but I don't really see those bikes as competitors, they're for different buyers. It's not like I would choose a 1050 instead of the 800DE. In that case I would look at the F850GS or the 890 Adventure.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    10 ай бұрын

    Yep not necessarily a competitor, but it might tempt people looking at the more tech laden bigger bikes to go ‘down’ the range (I’m choosing that word carefully by the way) and therefore spend less money? The other way to look at it I suppose is that by adding those things is pushes the 800DE price up?

  • @Ignas0000
    @Ignas000011 ай бұрын

    It's heavier but much easier to pick up than Tenere.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    11 ай бұрын

    Interesting, is the Yammie tricky to pick up? is that down to shape, grab points , geometry?

  • @Ignas0000

    @Ignas0000

    11 ай бұрын

    @@mancavemoto Because Tenere is really tall and the weight is high.

  • @bikenbush
    @bikenbush10 ай бұрын

    👍🏽🙏🏽🙌👌🏾

  • @pabloricardodetarragon2649
    @pabloricardodetarragon26499 ай бұрын

    You call a 230 kg ADV bike middleweight ???

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    9 ай бұрын

    Middleweight refers generally to the engine size not the kerbweight

  • @thebigoaktree8401
    @thebigoaktree840111 ай бұрын

    I just don’t understand what’s happening with most all motorcycle “content creators”. Is it going to always be video after video of various creator’s reviewing the same bike or “the next new bike …the next new bike” etc? It’s gotten so old and not engaging for me at all at this point. And for creators trying to keep up with the public’s attention deficit disorder isn’t even realistic endeavor at this point. It’s a numbers thing huh? Who ever cracks the motorcycle content code that makes me happy to have the bike that I have will change the way that we view ownership of these already beautiful machines, and set out to enjoy them instead of being in a perpetual state of “oh look at that new bike, I need a new bike”. I don’t care what the new bike is anymore. It’s Unsustainable.

  • @johnmartin7158

    @johnmartin7158

    11 ай бұрын

    The pluses are you’ll get a good consensus of views and the opinions of various motorcycles and products. Probably like me, most people buy their bikes or vehicles on looks and appeal as not necessarily the technicals, or a combination of the two. Deficit disorder can happen after about 10-12 mins for sure. As is stated by the fort nine creator. But in this channel, you’ve got a real decent everyday bloke creating valid content that most people can relate too. And that’s the appeal for me. Cheers.

  • @nikoscosmos

    @nikoscosmos

    11 ай бұрын

    It's a business and KZreadrs, influencers, live by it. The sycophantic followers fuel it...

  • @papachis9535

    @papachis9535

    11 ай бұрын

    For me, I’m in the market for a middleweight like this and there is plenty of choice. I pick up lots of details about the machines that one would not have had access to in the past. It does help me know what to look for when I test ride them, and having a variety of reviewers with different riding styles, sizes and weights can be informative. So, for my purposes, I’m OK with it.

  • @thebigoaktree8401

    @thebigoaktree8401

    11 ай бұрын

    @@nikoscosmosjust the way things are huh? It’s a shame that everything falls into “The best thing” category leaving very little time for contentment and enjoyment of these machines. Everything exists on a model of constant consumption. And I am just reaching my max fill line if you will. It just leaves very little room for deep appreciation of a thing that many have saved up for many many years. Shame on me if I ever get caught up in going with the flow just because it’s the norm. PS. Been a fan of Tony for a few years now. So I appreciate the bulk of the content he makes. His trip to visit the camps where his dad was a POW was an especially poignant and powerful journey that he will always have my respect for. Sadly when creators make things of depth they get very little algorithmic attention. Cheers.

  • @nikoscosmos

    @nikoscosmos

    11 ай бұрын

    @@papachis9535 we still get reviews for the R1250GS 5 years after launch....

  • @Coldgecko
    @Coldgecko10 ай бұрын

    Ive said it before and after -- No cruise control -- Disqualified... Tell your buddies at Suzuki. I'll go with any other brand that offers that 50 year old option.

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    10 ай бұрын

    Thats obviously a very personal requirement, it wouldn't stop me buying one, i rarely use Cruise Control

  • @Coldgecko

    @Coldgecko

    10 ай бұрын

    Totally agree. For me it is personal. I just finished a 6,000km (4,000 mile) ride across America last week and without cruise, its impossible -- or hand fatigue on long stretches of crunching miles sucks. Ive also rode from Maimi to Thailand and Miami to Ushuaia, Argentina... 6 month trips... Those adventure riders who do long runs without cruise get my deepest regards... Not for me. But most local riders -- I agree, not needed. I have to stick with KTM, BMW or Honda for my giggles and accept a bit more weight. But one extra option which is nothing special from Suzuki would open it up to lots more people.@@mancavemoto

  • @donnyjackson1908

    @donnyjackson1908

    Ай бұрын

    @@Coldgecko it’s not impossible. I rode 4500 Miles across the US on a 2016 XSR900 with no cruise control and did so in 9 days. It was literally not bad at all. Cruise isn’t that big of a deal.

  • @thodoris3790
    @thodoris379010 ай бұрын

    if i ll buy it,i will wait for the next year that 17/19 wheels is coming

  • @mancavemoto

    @mancavemoto

    10 ай бұрын

    It'll be interesting to see if this replaces the 650 in the range going forward?

  • @thodoris3790

    @thodoris3790

    10 ай бұрын

    @@mancavemoto i m sure the 650 after a couple of years will stop.the 800 i think will be awesome with 17/19 cast wheels.and of course a better screen.

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