2023 Prizm Basketball Hobby boxes look like the biggest gamble in sports cards.
2023 Prizm Basketball has arrived and the hunt for Victor is on. At $900+ a box it seems like a massive gamble to pull anything remotely worth the price of the box. Are you taking the risk?
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Even if you paid $250/box for that case you would’ve gotten absolutely destroyed. This is criminal from panini.
@stevem9203
5 ай бұрын
That’s what panini does. When are people gonna learn??? 😂
@meejlis7
5 ай бұрын
Yup…they’ve got the sheep by the throat and leading them to the slaughter. People will still keep buying and chasing. 😢 #hype&gambleculture.
No exaggeration, you’d have a much stronger ROI playing penny slots in Vegas than buying into prizm breaks
@bradenmetcalf1507
5 ай бұрын
Yea. One is regulated and one isn’t.
@MrMlev123
5 ай бұрын
Absolutely is a better waste of time than prizm hobby.
@christophertarr9005
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, very break I’ve seen is a bust…. Thankfully, we can regulate by not buying it. Seen good pulls with donruss tho
@christophertarr9005
5 ай бұрын
Soon, prizm will be like the casinos and flip the win-ability switch once they see a GoPro
@michaeldenzer6024
5 ай бұрын
Scammers
On another note. Keep up the good work. You are one of the real ones out here calling like it is
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
I appreciate that
I’m a baseball guy. Why is the basketball “flagship product” full of sticker autos?
@stevem9203
5 ай бұрын
They could be sticker autos signed by Mickey Mouse and the addicts would say oh wow how cool this must be the new thing 😂
its the breakers that drive the price through the roof!!!! they buy all the product so it seems the demand is there and they can charge whatever they want because they will just forward the cost to breakers who forwards it to customers
You nailed it, breaking keeps these prices propped up. That comment isn't meant to hate on breaking, but I don't understand how it can be sustainable when people continually get bludgeoned buying into breaks. Do people roll into the local gas station and drop 1K on lottery tickets every week/month? It's literally not any different.
People are just chasing a numbered Wemby card. You hit a Wemby gold or 1 of 1 and it’s life changing money. It’s all a gamble buying these boxes.
The Breakers are probably only 98% responsible for the high prices to be fair. I do like watching breakers pull $20 cards and fire canons and play hard rock music celebrating absolutely nothing. Not to mention the yelling and scream and convincing you that buying into the break makes you some part of a bizarre dysfunctional family unit. in the 1880's they were called snake oil salesman lol.
its because its a 250 dollar box selling for 1000
Haven’t ripped a box of anything in the last 2-3 years for this exact reason. More than happy to just buy the singles and let someone else take the beating on the boxes.
and the sheep keep lining up to get sheared
I opened a bunch of blasters, and got 2 base and one silver Victor Wembanyama. There was also a silver and cracked ice Scoot Henderson, as well Amen Thompson. So I am basically done with Prizm Basketball. On a side not all these were purchased at Barnes & Noble, where i am member, so i get 10% off every purchase, and when you go over $100 you get a $5 coupon for your next purchase.
My favorite thumbnail of 2024 thus far!
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
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These are sold almost exclusively to breakers since no one is footing the full cost they don't think about it. Like you said very few personal rips of this. 90% of this products run goes to breakers I bet.
Good lord, those are scary outcomes. This is why I'm staying away from some product and only getting certain things. Will I miss out on things I want? Yes, most assuredly. However, I'll also have more $$$$ for other things later on. Like food 😂. Still wish I was able to rip some Midnight Sons 😅 Thanks for the vid, sir!
Panini probably had some 'off payroll' guy in their basement signing all the autos.
Prizm EPL offers pretty good value at $275. I know your not a Soccer guy but at least the auto checklist is deep with big names current and past case hits like colour blast still there plus numbered… sure most boxes are break even and a few losing boxes but with some of the god boxes I’ve seen that’s a gamble I can justify
Breaking and gambling must be way more popular than what I see in my personal reality. And I like opening the occasional blaster or dropping some cash on DraftKings. Card prices have tanked in recent years but wax prices are strong, even with some products not offering players autos due to fanatics deals
Monopoly prizm Boosters so much better than hobby
@michaeldenzer6024
5 ай бұрын
No boosters! Lol
I almost did it. Came to my senses and bought 5 boxes of Topps Chrome Soccer instead straight from Fanatics
So people are getting shorted autos in boxes. Is there any tracking of the other “expected hits”? Beckett says to expect 22 parallels too. Wouldn’t be surprised if those parallel range greatly box to box. It’s all ridiculous.
what about FOTL? price is double, i saw one wemby prizm out of 3 cases.( literally $60k burn out )
Did not recognize a single players name from the Autos. Price is just insane
It's wild to me that people can just repeatedly be punched in the teeth by Panini and keep going back for more. I'd really love to see some of the big influencers speak out and call this product dogshit but they won't do it. They are only loyal to their pockets and are contributing to what will inevitably be a mass exodus from the hobby
Been watching a lot of case. Breaks, Blez seems to be getting all the wembys. And yes a lot of missing autos
I'd rather drop $2 on Powerball
I honestly don’t understand why anybody buys Panini hobby products. How many ways do they have to tell us they’re peddling snake oil?
On the plus side, singles collectors are laughing in the background just waiting to buy up at 10-20% of cost. 😅
Yikes, every hobby box opening I’ve seen is terrible for what the cost is. If you want to rip then retail is definitely the way to go this year especially with no big rookie autos. Blasters have numbered stuff appearing pretty often plus there’s a good chance for cracked ice, silver, and green rookies; it’s way more cost effective to get some blasters, especially if you can pick them up at MSRP. I’ve had really good luck this year Prizm retail. The first 2 weeks blasters showed up in stores I ended up opening the equivalent of a little over case, and for just my Wemby hits I got a blue seismic /99, 1 cracked ice, 4 base, 8 inserts - one green and two silver. Got a nice variety of other numbered and color rookies, and a whatever rookie auto too. Honestly I can’t wait for hangers to come out to see what those look like.
I get the feeling Panini is running out of autos. This and old Donruss autos were showing up in 2023 football releases. I get "on average" but that always felt like legal jargon to cover their butt in the event of a packaging error. This is beginning to seem like intentioanal negligience.
Panini's initial release cost is the issue. 2023-24 Prizm Hobby factory cost,meaning if you're a shop and have a direct account with Panini these boxes cost you $350 each(btw that price is up from $274 the previous 2 years) Panini's retail price on them is $935. In comparison 2023 Topps Chrome Jumbo direct Topps account price was $230 with an initial retail price of $330. If Panini would take the same approach to pricing that Topps does then these Prizm boxes should be around $500 retail,at most $600.
Subset Gold Jokic, not even a base version. Ugh
Prizm in my eyes hasn't been worth it for at least 5-6 years. Buying your own boxes or even a break is almost a guaranteed L most times.
NT and Flawless will just add a bunch of different “one of one” logo man cards to the product.
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
I’m fascinated to see how they handle it
Ya I won’t buy any panini products after 2022 it’s just ridiculous what they have done with the parallels
didnt see one wemby and 2 brandon miller
Thanks for doing this. We need more people exposing the hobby greed for what it truly is with financial breakdowns. Comparing the average ROI to stocks and mutual funds would be eye opening.
Seems with all the possible parallels the monopoly booster boxes provide way more value.
@cardguy20
5 ай бұрын
Stay away from monopoly it won’t hold value
@bhansen9468
5 ай бұрын
Full of base cards
If you saw Sport Card Investor video ripping 2 boxes of Panini BBK and didn’t hit any Wemby cards and the autos were bad.
Is this the way Panini is going out are they holding back the Big Hits ??????
after seeing 900+ dollar hobby boxes sell all day long for Panini, what keeps Fanatics from jacking the prices wayyy up? How are they not seeing this and taking notes? They love money don’t they?
In a world where breakers don't exist, does Prizm just sit and prices are forced to correct at least a little bit?
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
I think so
part of it is the draft class isnt good maybe 4 all stars
Awesome Title...100% true i watched Blez live break 19hrs stream, cause i got nothing to do yesterday... and if ur HUNTING WEMBY lmaooo goodluck with ur money cause its like in ur face Panini Scam, u can get Jaime and miller base like 10times but Wemby goodluck getting atleast One or 2 and thats only a Base lmaooo and this Product is a Hobby Box and Blez is breaking whole case after whole case and i notice thats the hit rate for Wemby...yeah they hit the Gold Wemby but still its bad as fck if ur hunting Wemby...i think Panini change all their shit and delay the release to feb 21 cause by the end of November Wemby Woke up and looks like the real deal and for sure will win the Rookie of the year cause now Chet is abit down for weeks, Panini be like "lower the Wemby base,silver cards hit" lolololol
Doesn't "on average" mean no autos were actually missing?
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
Sure one or two missing from a bunch of boxes but 20….
Checkout Run Good Life’s Prizm hobby box rip. Zero autos and only 6 numbered cards.
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
yea I heard about it
1/1 of VW was hit on Asian breakers show
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
That was the shimmer I'm sure there are 14 other 1/1s
@rq7027
5 ай бұрын
@@NEO_Cards_Comics no doubt
RGL just opened one with no autos
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
Yikes
Wait till you see run goods rip😢 no auto's
Ill buy singles $$ these should be $300 hobby boxes
@slangy0
5 ай бұрын
get better luck ripping hanger packs
The exorbitant print runs due to the manufacturers knowing breakers will buy and burn through inventory has driven me to look into organically rare collectables from the past. Kinda done with this manufactured scarcity ruse.
😂😂😂 I thought the ASG was bad this is a disaster
Serious question; does _ANYONE_ have any recorded/documented example where a...."banger" Wemby has been pulled from a[ny] _SINGLE_ hobby box....?!!? By banger, I mean color and/or numbered Wemby, and only from a standard, hobby box (eg. not a FOTL box, and _not_ ....a box from a cumulative case break). Quite literally,...I haven't seen a _single, example_ !! I've seen several Red & Blue seismics pulled from blaster boxes ( /299 & /99, respectively). Hell; I even hit a *Brandon Miller* red seismic in my 20th blaster box! In $1998.87 worth of Panini-direct hobby boxes (2 boxes), I pulled *ZERO* autographs with the advertised,..."2 per average", wording, ....only _ONE_ Wemby base, and a cumulative, FMV of cards worth about $24.17!! (and that doesn't include ebay's take)!! #PurePaniniTrash
I mean are people just choosing not to notice that Panini is giving them a MASSIVE MIDDLE FINGER as they are walking out the door?
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
🤷🏼♂️
I don't know if this might not be the start of the breaking point for boxes. We've gotten to the point where prices are way out of control vs the talent contained in each box. Am I wrong, or does this season seem like the year that the least new talent has shown up by this point of the season? I understand the guys that were hyped at the start of the season with Chet and Wemby, but I've not seen another consistently good younger player show up yet this season. When you translate that to the card world, it's really hard to find any of the new prospects in basketball that I would want to collect. You can pack a box full of that mediocre talent, but I really have no idea how you can get someone to pay over $900 for a box like that. I think I'd rather, if I was going to waste my money, over pay a little for a Wemby card, if that's all I was opening a box for anyways, than pay that much for a bunch of cards of lower level to mediocre talented young players that already aren't living up to the hype. Sorry, not for me. Good video NEO!
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
Brandon Miller has been really good to start 2024
@kevinevans8370
5 ай бұрын
That's fair. I lump him in with a few others like Vince Williams that have gotten more playing time on really bad teams. But, the Thompson boys, Amen and Auser, Cam Whitmore, Miller, and Williams aren't the guys that would make me want to chase their cards, or make me want to buy a $900 box for them.
Lol only person this is fun for is the breakers ,and you won’t be able to find this at any Walmart or target
Monopoly Prizm best value 🤫
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
They printed that stuff to the moon this year and also is not longer target exclusive.
@TheCardHunter
5 ай бұрын
@@NEO_Cards_Comics agree more is made. However I’m saying value of the Prizm nba products, monopoly is the best. They have lots #ed cards and SSP compared to other options and cost is minimal. Chrome mlb is over printed too, but there are products with better value. Value is determined by actual experience buy ripping grading selling etc How is Gianni’s Base Prizm doing? 😁
Christ so that would work out to roughly around 1,300 CAD for one box.
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
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That’s a hard pass. Haven’t broken anything since precovid and it’s gonna stay that way at least til more baseball comes out. I’m a singles guy anyway.
Did you see rungoodlife’s box? Zero autos in his hobby box.
Levert and Lonnie Walker are still on the checklist? I’d rather Panini add more retired vets or hofers than those guys.
That first half case might not even be $400 worth of cards. The 2nd is probably 3x that. Too many cards in the set and way too many parallels = slaughtering.
The hobby is overran by gamblers and Panini knows it can produce crap and they will still buy it up.
ten grand no Wemby lmaoooooo
The same ones complaining been pumping and dumping since 2020 but complaining now 😂😂😂😂 you cant make this up
I wanted to buy one, but $900 for a brand new box is nuts! Sure there's some cards that would make it worth while other than getting a Wembanyama, but this is too much freaking money for a standard box of Prizm basketball. And wow, the stream you showed is next level. Considering what they paid, not even close to worth it.
You have to be the biggest degenerate gambler to buy into these breaks. The odds are so bad
@rungoodlife opened a box on video and got 0/2 autographs lol panini=dumpster fire 🔥
Yeah. The shit has always been a dumpster fire.
Purely a MMTB (more money than brains) product..
Anytime people want to bag on Fanatics all I have to do is show them Panini hobby box openings
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
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I’m not buying this boxes I’ll wait
Prizm has really gone downhill. The majority of rookies and autos coming out dont even net 1/10th of the cost of the box. NFL at least has several rookies that can get a little more ROI, but barely. Not to mention, If you look at the centering on the vast majority of the CJ Stroud rookie bases and parallels, they’re all off-center L to R!
Those autos looked like crap to me. I remember back in the day when signatures were beautiful things.
@colinburroughs9871
5 ай бұрын
public school handwriting post the 90's is awesome, before long sigs will be "X" (before literacy was common) again or swiggles
get wrecked on the wemby hype
I think this is gonna be one of the worst prison boxes of all time, right?
@pveldboom09
5 ай бұрын
Any box you can get in prison is a good box
It’s been this price for the last three years though and with wembys hype it’s easy to see why people are willling to pay. It’s no different then years past the price goes up or down depending on the quality of players that develope. This is a constant thing with all cards let’s be real these things are common place in sports cards now days. Buying one box of prizm isn’t a deal breaker because you just don’t know what your going to get in the future as many nba players take 2-3 years to develop. Take Gianni’s for example. Also remember that when you say you haven’t heard of any of these players that’s because we by has overshadowed every rookie on the class. The argument you have could be said for any case or product of cards it’s always a gamble. Your honestly better off to not open the boxes because it’s still wembys only prizm or chrome nba uniform and past prizm boxes only go up in value
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
The product has also got way more watered down
@screwydrewy7027
5 ай бұрын
@@NEO_Cards_ComicsI agree but so has everything else topps has the same way more parallels all the tmall and fanatics exclusive stuff everything’s overproduced now just because prizm makes ore parallels in one product the other products do the same and then call it spectra tmall or lick envelopes it’s still the same product with more crap. Every release except the major high end ones are doing it now
watched a couple sblez breaks on wednesday of FOTL case breaks on this product and they were crap, lots of color/shimmers of no name players, none of the autos were of anybody worth getting also and I think those are going for $1900-$2000 a box on feebay, absolutely crazy. Thanks for the video
box breaks are pretty much a scam lol
Those Layton autos, I haven’t heard of 90% of the players lollllllll. What an awful product
Math always wins. These will crash eventually, and this hobby is headed for more downswing before it levels.
ABSOLUTE BLOODBATH!! Wake up folks, not worth the gamble....stop the madness
I’ll bet Geoff said it’s great…..
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
Nah they were pretty straight that they were rough. It’s kind of an entertaining watch.
@jrgeb99
5 ай бұрын
@@NEO_Cards_Comics at least it wasn’t over hyped by them.
@daniellarsen889
5 ай бұрын
He did say it was a great product early in the break to be fair.
@jrgeb99
5 ай бұрын
@@daniellarsen889 that’s disappointing
@daniellarsen889
5 ай бұрын
@jrgeb99 He's not going to claim its rough. He probably has 10 cases to sell. He's no longer just an influencer, He's a shop owner.
Panini and fanatics need antitrust or price fixing suit slapped on them.
Sorry but breakers are what card companies are catering to the hobby shop has been set on the back burner. There is nothing in this product that comes close to any type of value, it is driven by player so called unfounded claims. You have a player demanding prices on a team that has won 11 games at the season half. Those suckers have a great season with the NBA, I watch breaks for the shear entertainment of people paying 500.00 plus for a team in hopes of getting that 1 in a trillion card LMAO.
Disaster product... better odds dropping $1k on a single roulette number
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
Pretty much
Modern Basketball is the lulz
@PropiaPersona
5 ай бұрын
Zion/lamelo ended up being role players after the hype year is hilarious
heres the real problem Neo… These big influencers arent paying $900 a box. they have panini accounts, or have buddy buddy hook ups with local shops, to pay wholesale. so as bad as these are for Ol PPP lying Geoffy, at least hes paying way less than the $900 that us real collectors have to pay. my local LCS wouldnt even sell any prizm unless you wanted to pay $9000 a case. oh, but they sold their cases to a local breaker, just barely over cost. go figure. and not to mention, these breakers are probably making….$12-15k on these cases?
Just like everything else in the world currently... Expect to be dissatisfied. Money has no value anymore. Greed is killing this country.
College basketball sucks and is producing players not ready for the league. The NBA also sucks. And Lebron is a juicer.
Have you ever thought about the collectors in China? That’s all they watch over there they have a population of 1 BILLION!! NEO I’m losing brain cells watching your videos
@NEO_Cards_Comics
5 ай бұрын
Then don’t watch them pretty easy.