You are a legend Mark!! Thank you for doing what you do and also to the rest of the Lester boys! Thank you

@snowtrax

6 ай бұрын

Appreciate that so much!! 🙏

You guys are the ONLY sledding channel, NON mountain related, that I watch and you kill it every time(even when it’s not about Ski Doo’s 😂)!! What little I know about all these oversimplified new sleds🤦‍♂️is because of you Lester boys !! 👊👍👍

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!!! 👊💥🎉

This is why we love it when pops does the reviews, he gets us and has fun with it.

@snappydavegood8820

Жыл бұрын

Mark seems to have fun with his work. As a "seasoned" rider myself, I identify him. Old guys rule!

Wicked sled would love to try one, great review also thanks Mark and thanks for running it as well we all like to hear them purrr..

Great job Mark on all the info on the new Polaris VR1 Turbo very nice looking machine 😎❄️

Excellent review Mark! Always look forward to your reviews. Keep up the great work.

21 850 VR1 came with 4 year warranty- that’s what builds confidence Lester!

@pajamatime5750

Жыл бұрын

2021 didn’t have a turbo! Clearly they’re not quite as confident as they were on the N/A 850!

Mark you guys are the BEST

Awesome stuff Mark!

Awesome. Polaris never disappoints.

great review on a great sled Mark !

great review!

Dealers in Wisconsin sitting on them, seen an ad last week of a dealer with 4 of them. Many backed out on spring orders due to the price and interest on loans.

@Defamed.

Жыл бұрын

🤫

@sunsettrailrider

Жыл бұрын

These sleds are nice, but they won’t be selling like Icecream on a hot day. Almost $30k 😂

@firstamendmenttshirt4768

Жыл бұрын

​@Sunset Trail Rider I can get 2 enduro motorcycles and go in the snow. Still saving on gas.

@barrthom603

Жыл бұрын

wait till people find out that the price is 10-20% more on 2024 models as inflation continues to climb

@firstamendmenttshirt4768

Жыл бұрын

@Barr Thom there be no snowmobile for anyone. They all will have no jobs. Anyone buying a sled for 20,000 can go grow a garden and save a life.

i love this one! i love my boost!

Great video

@snowtrax

5 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Mark the Professor. Doesn't get any more technically detailed yet easily understood for us wannabee professors. If I was 15 years younger I'd be buying one but I'm already over my head with my 850 VR1 from last year. I just hope I don't meet one this winter on a nice smooth lake up here in northern Ontario or I would likely want to pull the trigger this spring. ! Love your "straight to the chase" reviews! (no pun intended)

Awesome sled all around.

Ice cream out the nose 😂 Love your videos Mark what an awesome sled go Polaris!

You didn't mention the clutching issues and I noticed someone added the adjuster bolt/nut to the secondary. They don't come this way, so I'm wondering if this was a recall issue of dealer fix?

Hi Mark. Was this sled just delivered. Kinda late in the season for a walk around on such a hot 2023. Also, turbo 2 stroke is nothing new even by OEMs. Doo has been selling them for a couple years now. Plus there are several dealers with them as the price point is now too high. Thanks for sharing the information.

For the GoPro clips put mini dead cats on the mic’s of the GoPro to eliminate the wind noise that’s what I do

I like the video Mark! Great job! I just think speed kills. Here in Wisconsin seems to be the case this season. People going way to fast on the trails and getting killed. But, I know, it's not the sled, it's the person driving it needs to be more responsible.

I know this is a boost video but so have a question about the 650. I currently have a 2014 Switchback PRO-R 800 and want to know how the 650 compares to that vintage Liberty 800. This isn’t the Axys with the lightweight crank. Does this 800 still have a higher top-end power? How comparable is the bottom-end grunt?

Anyone notice around 18:00 the speedo touches 124? I’m assuming MPH? Mine won’t go beyond 115, not that I really need to go faster but was surprised by that. Anyone else experience that kind of top end?

I've run these across the lake against a stock Thundercat and the was just a touch faster on the top end It was almost tip tip close, but the advantages are on the trail corner to corner. The advantage on a four strokes is the longevity, durability and ability to get an easy 300hp out of them tuned

@ijimmythekid6918

Жыл бұрын

The weight penalty of a 4-stroke is abhorrent and heinous in tight twisty trails, the 2-stroke will run off and leave any 4-stroke in tight trails.

I think it's awesome would love to see it head to head with the doo 850 turbo in the lynx/ski doo platform

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

How does the turbo get oiled?

Is that beginning clip showing this wide open? I have been hearing these are 120mph sleds on hard pack, but that looked like it was struggling after 90mph. I'm just wondering what to believe.

@wyattewert8997

10 ай бұрын

Maybe watch more than just the beginning clip lol. At 18:10 you can see it clearly pull hard asf past 120

Is the assault boost faster then the vr1 top speed

Would love to see a lake race with all 4 big turbo sleds. Like u did last season with ski doo Z and thunder cat. Now that be something to see.

Rode one. Lifted the rear end and it was suprisingly light. Handled well. Had good power and ran good. Couldn't beat a 2017 129" 998 Cat head to head from a dead stop. Based on what my sled dynos at I estimated the Polaris turbo makes a legit 180-190hp. The Cat 998 stock with only a can on it was a legit 205-215 maybe 220hp. These newer high end turbo models don't have any turbo lag from a dead stop or from a roll and do run very good even without a tune on them.

@variator7466

Жыл бұрын

I have a T-cat and gotta say it's one impressive trail sled (once the issues with the poorly engineered drivetrain have been addressed). Would love to try one of these VR1s but I got a feeling I will never go 2 stroke again.

They put the battery in the back because Ski-Doo does same thing since 2017 when Gen 4 was introduced. The new Doo turbo R introduced for 2024 has water injection for cooler air intake temps and more consistent engine performance.

No one does, or says it better!

so no throttle hang at 5000 rpm??

Needs some Produmax !!

Do they eat plugs like my buddys 22 rmk khaos on cold starts? 1 weekend 4 sets of plugs.....

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Haven't experienced any plug fouling on our trail models though we have heard about the issue on mountain models.

You forgot about the 2024 SkiDoo 850 Turbo Trail machine. And the fact that Doo had their battery in the back for years now

@ericrobinson268

Жыл бұрын

And water/methanol injection.

@joshpitts7256

Жыл бұрын

A🤦🏻‍♂️

@208SledHead

Жыл бұрын

Cookie?

P22’s are blowing up on mountain sleds within 2-300 miles.

@208SledHead

Жыл бұрын

Yea Polaris needs to address those. I hope they do. Unlike Doo with their grenading chain cases and reed failures.

Standard 850 are plenty fast. I don’t see the use for the complexity added by turbo on already short life 2 stroke engine. It is cool but not necessary.

@davessparetime83

Жыл бұрын

Only really worth it for high altitude

@shperax

Жыл бұрын

You're totally right.

@208SledHead

Жыл бұрын

"Not necessary" for you maybe.

@jerl.980

Жыл бұрын

@@208SledHead i would not say that. I will test the ski doo one this March….will you ? It will be fun i am sure but honestly it is more a marketing thing than a necessity. I like better suspension than more power; my favorite test sled from 2022 was the Lynx Rave 850 over the Mach Z.

@208SledHead

Жыл бұрын

@@jerl.980 You're missing the point. YOU do not write the book on what is "necessary." A Rolls Royce is not necessary. A 1 ton truck is not necessary. A 4,000 sq. ft. house is not necessary. See what I did there???

the battery is in the back because of the turbo getting hot during use and you don't want a red hot turbo close to your battery

Its just like motorcycles but now as much power on snow. All about who has throttle control and who doesn't . whoever comes home can stay for another season lol.

beautiful sled, bring extra spark plugs

@wasupfool5692

Жыл бұрын

A lot of extra spark plugs

@barrthom603

Жыл бұрын

818 miles on my 23 Boost and still on original plugs.

@xcpilot618

Жыл бұрын

Had two new boosts with us on a 600 mile trip and no plug issues.

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Have heard of fouling plugs in the mountains, but we have not experienced any issues on our trail sleds this season.

ECU flash and a pipe your at 180 hp on a na 850. That's more than enough for me. 😃

@TheLeblancGroup

Жыл бұрын

Really? With who?

@BullittOutdoors

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLeblancGroup Bikeman

@palcolandcattle4259

Жыл бұрын

on a cold day at sea level, not on a warm day or at elevation

2 year warenty? WTF i was only offered one!!!!

“Bye the way, they’re all sold”. REALLY??????

The mnts are littered with Parts from that POS P22 clutch 🤭🤣

Why did they do away with there sick axes chassis?

@snowtrax

9 ай бұрын

Constantly evolving.

@justforlaughs8988

9 ай бұрын

@@snowtrax but it seems like more of a gimmick now instead of advancement no? Just seems like they went back to the old way of advancement in using geometry of placement in using suspension?

How come nobody notices that the mapping for Ontario at least is so outdated an incorrect it renders it useless??? You should be able to download the Ontario federation snowmobile club map system far superior!! Almost got my head, taken off by a farmer because it showed I was on a trail that was gone for years ago!!! just saying

No where to ride this at it's full potential on the trail as a 137, and if you take it too the lake the 4 stroke turbos will surely blow by this sled. belongs in the mountains with a longer track.

@joshpitts7256

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@pajamatime5750

Жыл бұрын

😂

Rode that exact sled, wasn't impressed. Won't go over 115, rear wheels were falling off horrible fuel mileage, fouled a bunch of plugs. My 2002 zr800 walks this sled.

100lbs difference between the competitors 4 strokes and this VR1, you can always tell how bias Mark is towards Polaris. Maybe Yamaha and arctic cat but not the Doo sleds 850 boost Polaris = 491 lbs dry 900 turbo XRS skidoo with smart shox = 531 lbs dry By my math, that's 40lb Even if it was the Mack Z that's 60lbs more Sometimes i wonder why I give Snowtrax my views when I see videos like this. Even on the S4 blatantly insulting Skidoo for their "throttle lag"

@pajamatime5750

Жыл бұрын

Don’t let them hurt your feelings! Go watch something else if viewing this content has you wondering! Skidoo had throttle lag. That’s a fact. And Mark obviously means “up to 100lbs”…. It’s not anything to cry about!!

@eugenezalevich437

Жыл бұрын

I agree no clue where polaris says they are 110lbs lighter than competition the manufacturer has yet to responde whom the competition is agreed a 2022 mach z was 548lbs and thundercat 603lbs. Not sure whos weighting them. And a mach z had list price of $22,900 with smart shocks so the price of polaris boost make no sence either. At $24,500. And im a polaris fan. But all dosen't make sence whos holding the manufacturers accountable for their miss information. All a big marketing ploy to say the least

@gtileo

Жыл бұрын

@@eugenezalevich437 I think the T Cats are more then 603, last i checked i saw the a basic 600 cat was that weight dry, they're pretty over weight sleds if you ask me Pajama Time- there really is no more lag on a doo drive by wire then any other engine that uses a drive by wire throttle. Even in your cars DBW there is a lag, the signal is going through various modules, in cars though it's easier to build a throttle map as the modules on cars are alot bigger and tend to be more advanced on initial throttle in to counter the signal delay. The only laggy mode on a doo is eco mode, but it's a numbed down mode to make it easier to save fuel and modulate lower power, sport mode on anything other then a 900 NA can be rather jerky so i leave mine in standard mode and some new clutch springs it's night and day responsive, doo just tends to use rather soft conservative clutch springs

The problem I have with the turbo 2 strokes is just how horrible the fuel mileage is. It's not just bad. It's insanely bad. So bad I'm amazed the EPA let these exist. Like 3-5 MPG shouldn't be allowed. That's why these made more sense in the mountains. When you trail ride this sled, plan your trip around gas stations and never pass them. They are your priority destinations.

@BorealEDC

Жыл бұрын

Are they always poor on fuel or is it dependant on throttle? I have a turbo'd truck that is good in gas until I get into the turbo, or put it in tow mode etc.

@shperax

Жыл бұрын

@@BorealEDC it's a snowmobile. And no one that buys this sled would ever be light on the throttle.

@Yamahauler54540

Жыл бұрын

And there's only so many places you can go 120 mph. I'm sure the VR1 is tons of fun but the Yamaha SR Viper will go over 100 mph and gets 15 mpg.

@208SledHead

Жыл бұрын

You don't buy a Corvette for it's gas mileage. These sleds are no different.

@barrthom603

Жыл бұрын

10-11mpg on my 23 boost, my 22 850 XCR averages 10-13mpg. Not much difference in fuel economy, Oil is more use on the boost though.

A turbo? Another thing to break and fix.

No one reviews a sled like Mark. Hard to watch anything else.

so just asking , why are sleds allowed to be 2 stroke when basically all motorcycles have had to go to 4 stroke ? Climate control Right . LOL :)

@snowtrax

Жыл бұрын

Too much to talk about in one response. We've covered this quite a bit in Supertrax Magazine. Maybe we can work on an updated article...

7S, 7S, 7S, for the love of God... it's called the 7 freaking S. Every video he gets it wrong!

No interest in the least 😅

@davidgervais4039

Жыл бұрын

Yet you still watched the video

Listen the sled adjusting belt deflection has been in arctic cat sleds since 2018. Nothing new and innovative. Copying cat

Turbos are too much power for flat land. Dangerous! Waste of money and ego . They should only be in mountain sleds. As if there are not enough crosses on the trees in the land of trails.

@youareright5431

Жыл бұрын

I had to Help pull a poor guy who passed away at tug hill Saturday don't know if the assault was a boost but I agree they need start doing more radar and Checkpoints I never thought that would come out of my mouth but I've seen enough now....He had family on the scene as well!!something I'll never forget....

@208SledHead

Жыл бұрын

Why are you wanting to dictate who and who can't ride a turbo sled? Are you an anti-gun person as well??

@PartTimeYooper

Жыл бұрын

​@Uncle Deez. Yeah because just like with a gun, when used incorrectly it can kill innocent people because of someone else's stupidity.

@genostreefarm6507

Жыл бұрын

@@208SledHead yeah all these snowfakes out there either can't afford one or wish they could. my bmw can do 260kph doesn't mean i do that getting the mail, idiots will be haters

@xcpilot618

Жыл бұрын

@@genostreefarm6507 Well said!