For £6999 with more power, tech, better brakes and suspension. You must be a Yamaha fanboy not to get the Hornet lol

There is a clear winner here. No competition. Even the looks which most people complain about is subjective and personally I like the look of the hornet better.

@emilianocatano2700

Жыл бұрын

theres more to it then just power, the mt07s engine is still better low end so it will still dominate for stunting and such

@DavidSmith-hn5gg

Жыл бұрын

@@emilianocatano2700not according to MCN who said it was more fun in their review, the MT 07 is outdated now and cannot compete with the hornet.

@DavidSmith-hn5gg

Жыл бұрын

I think the Hornet looks better especially the headlight 🤷🏼‍♂️

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

@@DavidSmith-hn5gg The Hornet looks more suitable for older rider, and the MT-07 looks more aggressive & modern looking definitely having more younger buyers. Talking about the Hornet's loads of electronics, they are less usefull for its limited hp of 2 cylinder engine. Features like quickshift and auto blipper are more suitable for fast bikes and having 3 cylinders and more which are able to rev higher in a longer period of time, or 2 cylinder with big capacity like the KTM Superduke R 1290. Those big bike features in the Hornet will make it more boring to use since it's limited in high speed capability. Furthermore, it's less comfortable than the R7. One bike dominate as being fancy but lacking of reliability, the other having the other way around. More comments at the outside

@Ferras_7

11 ай бұрын

@@nelocinco3836 I suggest you to test ride the hornet. It's packed with tons of torque and electronics are really helpfull to control it. Anyway, honda's quickshifter is a must on the bike, it really gets sporty and it's lot's of fun ;)

almost 10 years to honda to make a real rival to mt 07

@NecrosisTerminal

11 ай бұрын

Amm... the CB650R is faster and it has a better quality feeling than the MT07. In fact, the MT09 is really the competition to the CB650R. Yes, the MT07 has more torque at low RPM, but when you get up to speed, it lags far behind the CB650R.

@rhapsodyofice8184

11 ай бұрын

​@NecrosisTerminal Look, you are also explaining the different concept on the two 😂. Hornet is the right on target for the rival model

@NecrosisTerminal

11 ай бұрын

@@rhapsodyofice8184 yep, you have a point there 🤣

I don't get why so many people still argue on which is better even tho it is evident you are paying less money for a better motorcycle in the hornet

@Vaderfan-jv5md

7 ай бұрын

Can’t buy one anyway they don’t exist. Not on the website not from a dealer. It’s not a real production bike.

@sp7ahklub645

5 ай бұрын

I had no doubts, I bought the Hornet and I am very happy with its performance and striking appearance.

@drewhil23

4 ай бұрын

​@@Vaderfan-jv5md i was looking to find one, only in the uk unfortunately

Again, fantastic video!

what a very good video. thanks!

Yamaha Mt and xsr bikes are so clean that Cp2 engine is legendary

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

Yeap, even the XSR900 is sexier in blue than the MT-09, which is sexier in grey.

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

Bullet proof Honda unknown

Doesn’t matter. You can’t get one anyway. Can’t order one cant preorder one. So it looks like the MT07 is king because it actually exists

@Nyheim_07

2 ай бұрын

I can buy one at my local honda dealer, in Norway...

66cc its the diference , like mt03 vs z400, 80cc difference . z900 / mt09 .4 cilinder 949cc vs 3 cilnder 890cc , 59 cc . you can do 1 entire motor with only 50 cc . more cc more power on street motor ( not competition vs stock ) . the honda its really superior for a low price and much more tecnology . the mt07 its a 10 year old bike .

I know alot of people will hate me for this but i would still go for the MT07 cause growing up the 07 was the only one that i really liked even though the kawasaki z650 was kinda good it was not for me the 07 was something i like a hotwheel toy that i would still choose over other variations

@matejkubiena4581

Жыл бұрын

I agree mt07 since this bike didnt have competition. And you can get older mt07 for much better price so would still go with mt07

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

Cheaper to maintain, long term spare parts availability, long term reliability, comfortable riding position, better / fun to do both daily urban and weekend ride, nimbler / better handling, other than these important points, the MT-07 is more fun to ride if you gonna get naughty sometimes.

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

Rides better off paper

😮To me there is no winner. R&D in Japan has reversed from the direction they once were headed. But this is what the kids want... cheap bikes that look cool with alot of electronics. Id go for a used bike from the early 00's when Japan was putting out production bikes that had us in awe. Performance was the focus. Those days are long gone

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

No they both go hard

Well put together video. 👍

Great comparison

For me Hornet wins.

The main reason why particularly Honda engines, making a more linear power and higher horsepower at higher RPM but smooth low torque (comparing if Honda have similar capacity with Yamaha) is because the construction behind the engine. Honda usually have a shorter stroke with bigger bore and making its peak torque at higher RPM (therefore have low torque but higher horsepower) compared to other bikes like the MT lines that have smaller bore but longer stroke (therefore producing less horsepower but strong torque) at lower RPM compared to Honda bikes. The construction of this main component that influence how power are delivered to the rear wheel makes the 2 brands like Yamaha and Honda have different purposes and style of riding. Honda makes a smoother smaller torque at low RPM but high horsepower at high RPM, where the purpose of their bikes are to always go faster to compensate the usually heavy weight, better at straight lines & on the road with less traffic, compared to Yamaha MT lines where they have power at low RPM making them very comfortable, nimble and fun for daily urban riding, good at navigating corners, up and down hills very well, however still be able to hit good at straight lines due to their lightweight. This 2 bikes are not that hard to choose if you know what are you going to use your bike for, either for daily ride to work, or weekend ride, etc. They both have pro and cons but what characteristic of the either bikes that win the purpose of your riding needs will be the main tings to consider worth of spending. Buying either of the bikes to keep for generations you don't have to worry about the quality since both or all the big 4 Japanese bikes are known for their great quality and long term reliability, it's the matter of choosing which will last longer in term of the availability of spare parts to keep the originality, or otherwise go for customisation.

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

That's correct purpose My purpose is short street road track Thailand unforgiving I pick the MT all day

can someone explain to me the pros of having narrower rear tyre size? im planning to purchase a bike mostly for daily commuting to work,+ sometimes a tour out of city. would thicker tyre be better choice for me?

@MTTRASH1

11 ай бұрын

Thicker tyres have more traction because of the larger contact area. And I believe more stable in a straight line. Thinner tyres are more nimble, making the bike more 'flickable' and less effort to make the bike lean. Realistically for commuting/touring it doesn't matter. The pros and cons are very small

@Napoleon_Blownapart

10 ай бұрын

For road usage, filtering trough traffic and such, a thinner tire is better.

@ed.t.hansen6499

8 ай бұрын

500x is the most comfy

Can u make difference between different types of engine like V4, inline 4 , parallel twin etc pls

@mazzdickaanantama1574

Жыл бұрын

Parallel twin same as inline2 cylinder V4=4 cylinder engine configuration V Inline4=4 cylinder engine configuration Inline parallel

@nikhilkagalkar547

Жыл бұрын

@@mazzdickaanantama1574 thank you bro but also different types of engines classification

e l'accelerazione? e la velocità massima?

Well, all these things are just stats and numbers. On paper Honda is better. On real world I don't know. The MT 07 has almost 10 years of perfection, but Honda are giving Yamaha a hard time with the Hornett. I read and view a lot of reviews, and all of them say that the Yamaha is still a more fun bike to ride, but Hornett is a very solid bike and the its the best value for the money. Its a hard decision to make. Lets see what Yamaha will do for 2024.

Unicam tech engine it's unique and powerfull 👍 and finally i choose Honda CB Hornet 750 😎 And MT-07 it's fuck still conventional telescopic ohh come on dude 🤨

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

The Hornet is boring on the inverted fork, stiff as fuck but slow on the highway, that configuration is better for a 3 or 4 cylinders faster bikes like the CB/CBR650R, Hornet is just a failure of city ride with uncomfortable suspension, unnecessary throttle by wyre and quickshifter/autoblipper which should be put and more fun on those faster bike like the CB650R. Slow bike with qs/autoblipper is a waste of advantage, a longer wheelbase making it harder to turn / corner and avoid traffic. Having the look of city bike but failed to do its job. Get the CB650 instead. Better looking for town ride and can go fast on the highway

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

​@@nelocinco3836yes mate not a good all rounder in the real word especially Thailand

I wish the hornet was available in the US.

@freedomcanada8397

11 ай бұрын

Same here

I test the new Hornet and its really cool and fun to ride it!

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully you have the chance to try it daily for a week, then ride the MT-07 next for the same period of time with the use of all of their both electronic features, perhaps later you can share some of the feelings of useful experience.

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

Not on ruff roads

450sr is the King of speed

Vulcan S vs Super meteor 650

Both very good its no loss buying either. I dont need high speed top end

In my country its cost the same as mt09 what a joke.....

in terms of looks MT07 looks mile better

@DavidSmith-hn5gg

Жыл бұрын

I prefer the look of the hornet.

@charliecalamari650

Жыл бұрын

I personally think the hornet looks better. Both great bikes.

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

​@@DavidSmith-hn5ggdinasour

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

Rides awesome low end torque off paper much better

Less weight just means more plastic less betal, so cheaper.

By watching some reviews, people have said the Suzuki is better than the honda. But wait until Yamaha reléase the Yamaha MT 08

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

Yamaha MT-08?

@santiagomoralesgarcia1802

Жыл бұрын

@@nelocinco3836 it is a bad joke, but i think yamaha is going to up scale the CP2 engine close to 800 cc

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

@@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 if Yamaha made and engine with similar capacity with its competitor, it will again quickly/continuously win the market. People are talking about other bikes being better by having more hp as the main point, but there are a lot more than that, long term & daily reliability, spare parts, satisfaction on fun rides, comfort, design, etc...

For me mt07 design look better then honda hornet

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

More comfortable to

Hornet❤

How can you go past the Hornet. You cant!

@nelocinco3836

Жыл бұрын

🤣

@underworldringside

11 ай бұрын

You haven't ridden the MT

@nelocinco3836

7 ай бұрын

On paper, the MT lines are sucks, but in reality, they're purposedly made better... That's why the reviews are soo good and they conquer the market especially for 700 & 900 cc categories... MT-09 is an unbeatable supernaked, even the Z900 can't beat it in many aspects...

Took Honda about 10 years to try and catch up. And they made a hideous bike without the awesome down low torque of a MT… Literally everyone trying to copy these. There’s a reason MT-07s are such popular stunt bikes. Now go see if businesses are selling stunt parts for the Honda… (they aren’t)

@salvospedale4357

7 ай бұрын

La mt 07 è una vecchia moto obsoleta e fuori dai tempi odierni. Toglietela dal mercato

I saved 2000 got a new MT 2023 no interest in the electronic bullshit. Termi carbon exhaust ups the power straight off the bat

I own a mt-07 .. I will buy Hornet 750. Do I answer the question ?

@myfren90

5 ай бұрын

Tell me whats better for you?

@ga-moto

5 ай бұрын

​@@myfren90hornet is more up to date than mt07. But due to unwilling circumstances I ended up with a tracer

Hornet assenger seat is unuseable!

No competition. The hornet wins

It's NOT a Hornet, It's a TWIN CB750.... Hornets have 4 cylinders and the 600s were b-tardized on 2007 and the 900 was discontinued in 2007... this is a CB750 TWIN.

The explanation sounds favouring the Hornet, however the Hornet just put on unnecessary electronics in their bikes like the ride by wire, compare to the MT-07 which put a lot of useful features in its display, compare to Hornet who have multiple choice display which basically doing the same things without providing more special yet useful features like the MT-07. Hornet's longer wheelbase making it harder to corner is nothing better than the MT-07 for a daily ride and to avoid congested traffic. It's more suitable to be use on the highway or less traffic road, which the MT-07 can do anyway. However the boring style of Hornet with 2 cylinder makes it even less fun to ride on the highway. It has a figure which is less attractive on the highway but more handsome on the city road, which however the MT-07 had taken a lot of the points of its use. The softer front suspension of the MT-07 makes it more comfortable for relaxing everyday ride, while the Hornet's "better" inverted forks are stiffer and rather more enjoyable for faster bikes like the CBR650R and the MT-09 on the highways. The MT-07 have wider tyre to compensate its torqy power, which means by using the same tyre profile as the Hornet, it will wear off faster. The futuristic fashion on the MT-07 with its aggressive style suits the wider real wheel and 180 tyre, makes it look more like a superbike.

MT 07 rides better than what it is on paper 😎

The Hornet looks old with a new light. I dont know why

MT07 aftermarket is OVER 9000!!! because the stock suspension has been shit ever since 1st gem mt07...

Get neither of these. Get the Suzuki instead. Much better compared to these two.

First

mt07, everyone owns one which makes it crap, it also looks ugly, just like the hornet. Both are bad.

Mt 07 sucks

Listen l had the MT 2019 and l sold it. I ride 35 years raced dirt young The MT has more usable low end grunt and well balanced ride The Hornet hasn't beaten anything By the way l was die hard HONDA rider most of my life. If you want highway high speeds by Hornet If you want supermoto grunt and good comfortable ride buy the MT Trust me once you know the bike the front forks work. I just brought the 2023 model MT. 2 days till.pickup I don't regret nothing. The bigger rear works a treat on the MT THE MT LOOKS BETTER..Feels better and the engine won't be beaten. Only on paper gentleman

@LeoLeo-so5zz

8 ай бұрын

Hi im looking to to buy my first motobike, wich is better for beginner honda horner or Mt07 2023?? ( i like more mt07)

Lol both are so ugly yamaha should have just stayed with the mt 09 gen 2 look