Waiting on 30 yr mortgages to afford these trucks 😅

Love my 2021 F450. I tow a 21,000 tri-axle weekly. It was also my daily driver until my 2023 Lightening arrived.

My 2014 F450 Lariat is been the Ultimate vehicle. You are Right about being OVER-ENGINEERED! Turning Radius Alone Justifies the Move from 350 DRW to F450

Awesome group of guys dropping knowledge about these trucks, I learned a lot, Thank you!

Like the looks of the regular cab 450. Nice.

Great review. You have created my addiction to the F 450.

Hotshot driver here. I just found out that the F450 is also 14k gvwr. That’s awesome to know. I’m a non cdl driver. That will be my next truck.

@uuulaalaa

Ай бұрын

Can tow a two car trailer and stay under 26k?

I wish you let the guys talk more. Damn you like to hear yourself talk.

When the interviewer probably knows more than the interviewee.

@k-mparker

Жыл бұрын

JD is the man!!!!!!! 👍😃🍻

@jasonlarsen3515

Жыл бұрын

Not like he gave them a chance to talk

@bobuncle8704

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonlarsen3515 😂

@wj2791

Жыл бұрын

@@jasonlarsen3515 I would like to hear more from Ford guys. Perhaps we need to set up the time- 45 seconds on each questions.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

The Ford guy repeatedly demonstrated that he knew more about the trucks and the difference between them than the interviewer... which is how it should be.

Could you do the difference between a 450 and 550 sometime?

I won't upgrade from my 2017 till 2025-26, but I get excited like I'm picking it up this weekend every time I watch these.

Dog gone it! I just saw my F-350 King Ranch in that lineup. I ordered a 2023 F-350 King Ranch in the Rapid Red Two Tone 10/28/2022, just like the 4th one from the end.

It took a lot for the Ford guy not to laugh at you when you said you were responsible for the F450 being so popular 😂 you do realize they have been around LONG before KZread ever existed, or before your channel ever even had that much popularity, right? Lol 😅

Great video I'm looking forward you towing with that F450.

I don't believe any 1ton or less should be towing anywhere near 40,000lbs, maybe maybe 25,000lbs. But you got to be able to stop that load and these trucks cant, period. Its ignorant to even think they could safely.

@k-mparker

Жыл бұрын

With the beefier brakes, electric over hydraulic brakes on the trailer, tow haul mode engaged, and the engine exhaust brake all utilized, it is amazing how well it stops this much weight!!!

@krice24

Жыл бұрын

Easy to say when you never drove it. Got a 2022, haul 31k with it, f450 will stop it even with trailer brakes turned down to 2.0 setting. Handles so good, I am considering getting a 40k trailer to haul more.

@lrizo3841

Жыл бұрын

​@@krice24Good luck with that..

@chadsteele1

Жыл бұрын

@@k-mparker sure in a controlled stop. I bet they do.

@chadsteele1

Жыл бұрын

@@krice24 I'll pray for the others on the road.

Let them talk!

Just really wish they could actually get inventory up , Midwest dealer are saying 1.5 years of you want to order a Platinum

I own 2023 F450 Reg. cab 2WD with standard engine. I carry 5500lb slide in camper in the bed and pull a 7000lb trailer. Used to use 2019 F350 Reg. cab 4WD with standard engine. The F450 handles this load way better due to width and larger wheel/tires. Also the F450 4:30 axle over the F350 3:55 is huge difference. And IMHO the F450 rides smoother empty than the F350 did! For my use the F450 is much superior in drive dynamics and comfort. This truck has 6307lb in bed capacity. I am extremely pleased with this truck!

TFL Truck also Drove the F450 with the 40,000LBS

@BigTruckBigRV

Жыл бұрын

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The sharper steering angle enabled by the wider axle is certainly useful. Heavier medium-duty trucks can turn even sharper - up to 53 degrees is common with beam axles, and independent suspensions can go even further.

@richarddubois5529

9 ай бұрын

Not on Gm they can’t!

@brianb-p6586

9 ай бұрын

@richarddubois5529 GM trucks up to 3500 don't have a wider-track variant. The GM Class 4 and Class 5 medium-duty with a wider front axle is the Chevrolet Silverado 4500HD and 5500HD, which are built by Navistsr (International); these are similar in design to a Ford F-650 (not F-450 or F-550). Chevrolet says they have "A wheel cut of up to 50 degrees", which is much sharper than the smaller trucks.

Tell those FORD guys to bring back the manual shift four wheel drive shift on the floor.

The silver 4 doors is an f450 as well!

I had an 08 F450. 138,000 miles when traded with original brakes. Got 102,000 miles out of Continental, likely ate least in part to centramatics

Having my CDL and being loaded heavy Everytime I work my opinion is these trucks have power yes I get that but 4 tires on the rear just doesn't cut it. Only way they can keep going up on numbers will be adding more tires or semi sized tires which will then Rob power and gear ratio

@blackericdenice

Жыл бұрын

How long have you had a CDL?

@MyWatchIsEnded

11 ай бұрын

What about instead of having a dually single rear axle you have a single tire double rear axle? From the side it would look like you have two side by side tires with no tires on the inside like a semi would have them. Two axles and each only has two tires. I don't know much about it but I thought this sounded interesting.

@rooreeves

11 ай бұрын

@@MyWatchIsEnded so basic a 4x6 or 6x6…

Single cab long beds are something special

I got very lucky last year when I found and bought my 2022 F450. The dealership just unloaded it that morning, washed it then stuck it on their website and the guy said they've had no less than 50 calls on it within a couple hours. We made the deal that day and drove 6 hours to pick her up 2 days later. I have to say the dealership was fair in my opinion, it was very close to MSRP but they gave me 500 bucks less than what I paid for my 19 F350 SRW as a trade. Even plowing with this thing is incredible with. the turning radius. Fuel mileage is meh with the 430 gears and average 12'ish around town and on the interstate Ive got it up to 19.9mpg unloaded at 67mph, 67 seems to be it's sweet spot even towing our 44ft 5th wheel which is about 14k loaded I get right around the high 10's low 11's mpg. One thing I never thought of when I bought it was the price to replace the tires!...I'm fine with the Conti's that come with it but damn! best price Ive seen on those were just under 400 each. This truck is a beast for sure, it stops and handles our 5th wheel so much better and feel a lot more relaxed towing it.

You where one of the reasons I purchased my 2020 F450 platinum. I absolutely and I mean absolutely love the truck! I am glad you brought up the front tire wear because I rotated just my front tires and was wondering what was going on. I have aftermarket wheels and tires with Carli pintop 2.5 leveling kit. So I was wondering what would cause it. It's my first dually and I daily drive it and it's awesome.

The biggest reason for the F450 barely being different is because it’s derated to 14k GVWR to keep it from being a medium duty class 4 truck. Changes insurance and I think emission’s certification

superdoodis used to be something i let out after a high fiber meal.

They are beautiful trucks. Having said that, the problem with these great trucks is that they can be hacked and all of your personal and financial information and otherwise, is open. Another thing is that although these trucks are able to tow incredible wrights,, the trucks themselves are too small for the amount of weight that they are capable of towing. Don't get me wrong, I love the torque numbers, but I would prefer about 800hp for the weight of the truck. And I personally would tow no more than about 18,000lbs but with the same power numbers. To me it balances it out a little bit more for my comfort. Super power and medium weight.

You need to run your 2017 f450 up the ike gauntlet with TFL when they test the 23.

@lrizo3841

Жыл бұрын

😂

Its too bad these trucks are built from unobtainium.... I was looking for a 450 but cant find one within 1000 miles of where i live. Cant find a 350 either in a dually that the dealer has not tagged as a loaner and is now selling as used with 500 miles on it for 30k more than sticker. Every dealer i have spoken to has also said if i want any trim higher than a Lariat they cannot even order one at the moment and probably wont be able to until the 2024 model year is released. I gave up on the Ford and have a deposit on a 2024 GMC Denali 3500 instead that i should actually see next week.

When the Ford guy refers @8:25 to "our" M315 and M300 axles, he really means Dana axles. But that's good technical detail.

You probably will miss the 450 if you are purchasing a lightening, and wishing you had your old truck back

F450 or any truck in the HD 4500 range has the wide track front end for better turning. That is what your buying.

@rich7447

8 ай бұрын

The F450 pickup is only a class 3 truck though. The F450 cab & chassis is a class 4. At the moment the F450 pickup is the only wide track on a class 3 truck.

First off, I bought a new 2016 F165. So I like Ford trucks. I think it's wrong to front about being able to tow 40k lbs when you have to buy a 450 regular cab to do it. Most trucks you see on the road are 4 door. I was also pissed to find out my F165 can only tow 5,000 lbs. I've towed my 96 4x4 Tahoe on a Uhaul trailer. I had enough power towing 7,300 lbs. The problem was I could not driver faster than 60 mph. The truck would start to move around..

Good video 😊 but the 5 hundred hp and 12 hundred torque is at the fly wheel not the rear axles

I draw ✍🏻 a new spec for the mirror’s for this truck am a Ford owner but I think this will look insane to this new truck

that is the explinatio was I looking for today when alll those videos about the 40k lbs came out BUUUT as I did it in all coments... I want to know what is the propose of the F600 single cab if it isn't this.

I know I commented on the last video, but what is Ford doing to actually produce these higher end trims for all the orders that have been placed? Based on all the comments on Blue Oval and Ford-Trucks these are more rare than a unicorn. It’s so frustrating to see a video like this while Ford continues to fail at fulfilling orders.

So... what is the difference in payload and towing capacity between the regular cab longbed F450 and the QuadCab shortbed F450 that were standing side-by-side?

@BigTruckBigRV

Жыл бұрын

They don't make a quad cab or short bed F450. F450 only comes in 2 cab configurations, both with 8.5' beds. Both were featured side by side

Ya know it's so hitbor miss on getting a good diesel motor with solid turbo reliability that id find it hard, very hard to purchase the high output version. I bet one would get more longevity from the lower output version.

Thank you for mentioning that a 450 can turn better than a 250. I was thinking of a 350 crew cab long bed SRW, but when I built out a 450 the same way on Ford’s website it wasn’t that much more expensive. I was curious if the 350 I was looking at could turn better than a 450 because of where I put my trailer when not in use. Maybe it is partially cause of your channel, but the 450 has become my dream truck so I don’t see a reason why I shouldn’t get one since the price difference isn’t that much.

@jackylsmith8138

11 ай бұрын

450 have wider front axles, which allows the front wheels to turn tighter.

Unrelated to work trucks, my now sold Explorer ST had the best turning radius of any car I have ever owned. The transmission was garbage. Sync 3 was garbage. The rear camera was garbage (blue screen issue never resolved.)

All SuperDuty 4X4 pickups have the same front axle capacity (5600 pounds) and the same suspension design, but the F-450 does have a wider front axle so it is heavier. The F-350 and F-450 4X4 have the same maximum rear axle capacity (9,900 lb), and the F-350 actually has a higher 4X2 rear GAWR available (10,300 vs 9,900 lb), despite the heavier axle in the F-450.

@industrialiron90

Жыл бұрын

All Super Dutys do not have the same front Axle Capacity.

@brianb-p6586

Жыл бұрын

@industrialiron90 I did not say that all SuperDuty trucks have the same front GAWR; that would include both 4X2 and 4X4, and would include everything from an F-250 to an F-750. I said all *SuperDuty 4X4 pickups* which is just the F-250, F-350, and F-450 pickup (which is not the same as an F-450 chassis-cab). I pulled that from Ford's published specs; it may not include special-order options.

These modern trucks all have plenty of power to get a heavy load moving. It's more about how it handles the load at highway speeds, keeps it under control, and slows it down that matters. And if it can do that all day without burning anything up. An F-450 is a capable truck but a 40,000 lb trailer is a bad idea. 15-20k trailer no problem...typical gooseneck trailer with a decent load on it. Heavier than that these small bore engines and light duty automatic transmissions are being pushed too hard and wont hold up hundreds of thousands of miles. Right tool for the job as they say.

I would go F550... the Ultimate Towing Vehicle.

@BigTruckBigRV

Жыл бұрын

Reduced power actually

Insane anyone would tow this amount with a “light duty truck”. I couldn’t imagine trying to drive this with a load like that down the highway for 6 hours in the wind. I understand a controlled environment but on the open road would be a little crazy. Just an opinion.

I ordered F450 Limited on last Oct 28th after watching your numerous F450 truck video. I am still waiting for my truck to get the build date, it is on priority 10 per ordering sheet. This will replace my 2020 F350 6.7 Lariat and will be my daily driver. It will be my toy. I do not have a trailer to pull. LOL. Lastly, can you let the Ford guys give more input on your questions without cutting them off in 3 seconds or less on each questions?

@terrypage8172

Жыл бұрын

I ordered a 2022 F250 7.3 gasser in June of 2021. I actually got it in June of 2022.

@wj2791

Жыл бұрын

@@terrypage8172 12 month waiting may be a norm now.

Texas doesn’t Allow us to drive A 450 unless U have CDL’s Texastook away my CDL because I didn’t pass the Physical for my medical card . Now I can get A 350 with N/P as long as I don’t go over my gross weight of 32,000.0 lbs.

Wood hauler special.

350 and barrow the 450 when needed😊😊

@1:33 "eight and a half foot bed"? The long box of a Ford SuperDuty is 98.1 inches long, or 8.175 feet, at the floor... regardless of model (F-250, F-350, F-450). There is no "8 1/2 foot" bed. But yes, for maximum payload and towing the truck's body weight needs to be minimized, which means a regular cab.

How much can your 2017 F450 tow in comparison?

@BigTruckBigRV

Жыл бұрын

31,800lbs fifth wheel

pulling 40000 lbs with a 8000 lb truck, what could go wrong

I mean, that makes no sense... The number designation has always meant payload specifically. I.E. a "half ton" or F-150 pick up can carry 1000 pounds of payload, and a "one ton" or F-350 can carry 2000 pounds of payload on its back. Those designations originated many, many years ago and payloads have definitely increased. A F-450 should mean it can tote 1.25 tons on it back, theoretically. (Which would, again, be higher in 2023.)

Can anyone comment on their efforts to get private insurance on these trucks. My experience has been once you get over the 1 ton (350, 3500), most insurance companies won't quote. I've even been told they don't cover over the 10,000 GVWR which was the max 1 ton rate from decades ago. I have a 22,500 rated truck that I have to insure in conjunction with a towable RV in order to have coverage.

@BigTruckBigRV

Жыл бұрын

I had zero problems ever getting insurance on my F450s

@johnkowalkowski4269

Жыл бұрын

Which company?

The Chevy steps would look better if they were color matched. Other than that they are growing on me.

You asked the question, "What causes this truck to be an F450?" I'll answer that. It's because of its suspension system.

They are both f450

Have not watched the video yet but already know the answer. After all Big Truck.

That 8ft bed is stupid long and to practical it should be no longer than 6 1/2 feet.

That ford employee learned a lot of things today

@Milesco

Жыл бұрын

👍😄😆😛

They cost more than my house.

trying to flex saying he's responsible for more F450 being sold lmao

@aussiek2000

Жыл бұрын

I wish the Ford guy would have laughed at this

@BrandonLeech

Жыл бұрын

The Ford guy was like oh man is this over yet.

@Milesco

Жыл бұрын

But it's probably true!

Dude dodge been doing it before Ford on the turning radius. Go back to two half men, with Charlie

😇 Promo SM

Haven't watched it yet. But guarantee the video is about how a 450 is the only truck capable of towing anything

@marcg.3830

Жыл бұрын

If you feel that way about him, then why are you here! Even if he said what you claim he will say, it’s HIS CHANNEL!!!

@philip4x4guy

Жыл бұрын

​@marcg.3830 he's actually being held against his will and being forced by men in black suits to watch. Also, his comprehension level is very low, so give him a break

@aussiek2000

Жыл бұрын

@@marcg.3830 because I can do whatever I want. How's that d taste?

If you are really going to tow that much; get a big truck. Peterbilt or something similar

@marcg.3830

Жыл бұрын

I don’t think anyone is gonna buy one of these to tow that much daily, I think the point is having the capability to do it if you need to occasionally.

40K towing truck I feel is a bit of the marketing department overreach. Will the truck do it, yep! Is it a consumer product, I'm thinking, no. If you are a family of say 3 you can't use this truck. Correct me if i'm wrong, if you are towing that amount of weight you need a CDL; now I could be wrong about that. As a consumer based product for say leisure use it's not really a reality. The 40K demo (Im my eyes) is more a commercial application. The 40K demo think should be housed next to a 550 cab and chassis. What I would like to know, if Ford has discontinued ,or disaster proofed the CP4 fuel pump. Ford has said the new H.O. engines run north of 200 degrees in high stress moments. The death of any diesel engine is heat. I'm interested to see the effects on coolants and lubricants at that temperature. The big thing that worries me is using antifreeze to cool the turbocharger. The next thing these manufactures need to do is pricing. 100k for a 450 that's a bit steep, and it's not just Ford, but all three. Floating a manufactures EV program of the backs of the truck buyer (look at all the leading sales are trucks) is not right! I sure hope and pray that the 23' H.O. and new batch of trucks does well for Ford I really do. Just some of my thoughts, great informative video as always!

I didn't know Joe Rogan was a Ford engineer @1:15

any reason to keep ford guy on camera the whole time? how 'bout showing the trucks more.

Not worth the money no matter what it can do

Funny, even the Ford experts can’t learn the facts of their trucks. Is it 45 or 47 degrees? 6 or 7 cameras? What a lazy culture in America.

Omg. You should talk less and ask more questions from the professionals standing in front of you. In other words, STOFU and let them speak.