Ill pop in and buy this after market for a steep discount...

Worth it all day long Charlie

I recently bought the GT1. I got it at a good price. I was thinking of returning it bc the range in sport/race mode is around 19 miles. I wanted something with more range at high speed. Another thing i am not a fan of, is the size of the GT1. Its a big big. I really like the Apollo pro. I think it looks better than the GT1, its smaller, faster, and more range. I am not a fan of the price though. At 4k its way more than i was interested in spending on a scooter. Never thought id spend more than 2k for a scooter. Your english is fine. Yeah I think @ 4k it should b disc breaks.

I like the Solar P1. 2,400 watts. 52v. Eats hills.

@bozoking374

11 ай бұрын

solar ass imp

😎👍... I like it

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it

4k you better off getting the Nami burn e2 max 😂

I thought the same thing when I heard the price. It’s a nice scooter, but the brakes, the price, and the lack of innovation in some areas of the design made me hesitant to buy this. I want to wait and see if they don’t drop the price. I was even thinking about getting that Hollyburn that you reviewed but that’s a pricey scooter, maybe a little too pricey for me. Once I get to almost 10K I wonder if I shouldn’t just get a Motorcycle, lol

I got my Thunder 2 last year, I like that they changed the folding clamp on the Thunder 3, but it's not enough to get me to upgrade yet. The Apollo will probably be a decent scooter, but not at $4,000. Are they targeting the speed heads on scooters (the Apollo isn't fast enough), or are they trying to cater to the urban commuter (the Apollo isn't "iPhone" enough) with a scooter that can keep up in traffic? They need to pick a lane and focus on that, because catering to both will make a scooter that is decent, but never the best at anything, and certainly not for $4000. For $3300 someone could get a Dualtron City which has large wheels and a swappable battery, and probably a smoother ride because of the wheels. Let's not forget that all these companies are going to be launching new scooters all summer, and Apollo might be beat before they even get to the final iteration of the design. I've got an Erexx #6 and a seat in the mail for my Thunder 2, I'm set. Subscribed!

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, no way I'm buying the dualtron Thunder 3 because of those upgrades, I commend them for the improvements, but not work spending another 4k. In my opinion, they need to make all the Upgraded parts available for purchase for the older Dualtron Thunders. Back to the Apollo, I agree that it's definitely not worth 4k, especially with all the other options available in the market. Dualtron city is definitely more practical than Apollo pro at that price point.

@kainatticus

Жыл бұрын

The funny thing is if you shop smart for $4000 you can actually buy one of each lol. A 50mph+ scooter set you back around $3000 and a small folding commuter scooter (ninebot g30/f64/g65) is about $1000

An honest review on something you have no experience on. 👍😅🎉

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Why are you making it sound like Apollo discovered something new? Most electric scooters are powered by the same setup - battery, controller, motor, trigger, lights, etc. After years of owning and working on electric scooters myself, I can honestly give feedback based on my experience with similar scooters. It's like telling someone who owns and works on Bugattis that they can't talk about a new Honda Civic 🤦🏾‍♂️

@ModularIsl

Жыл бұрын

@@KiziEwheels youre a spec head, thats the reason why you cant comprehend whats goin on here. There ARE no other scooters like the 2023 Pro. Right now youre focused on top speed and range and numbers on a sheet because youre comfy with that. This scooter takes all that, crunches the numbers on actual AVERAGE rider top speeds (even with a poterntial 60MPH) and what people are REALLY looking for. most people dont care about 40MPH kuz they mostly go 25. You like all the other spec head morons completely miss the point on whats happening in the scooter industry right now. This is a shift that makes all your "bugatti" (LOL) experience look like youve been going the wrong way this entire time. This scooter changes everything about user experience which is completely absent from anything you care to claim to be on the level of a supercar. Apollo DID and is DOING something new. GTFO!

@vwbora26

Жыл бұрын

@@KiziEwheels talking about, and calling it a review is 2 things.

I prefer the Segway-Ninebot GT2 over that Apple-esque "Hyperscooter" lol

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

I can see that. maybe If the put a bigger size battery on the Apollo pro scooter

I'm sorry but it's not really a review until you actually have one to test out. You have no more idea than the everage Joe. I won't say how and why but I was fortunate enough to test drive a Pro V6 (chrome) for a week. This thing look waaayyy better in real life than any video or photos suggest. It's build like a tank. That scooter is not for everyone tho it's bigger and longer than the everage scooter and 100 lbs. Braking performance is not a concern here, the drum are sealed, good for wet riding and no rubing disc noise. You can't review something that is not even out yet bro. As for acceleration it outpace the Apollo Phantom 60v and for top speed its 75 -80 kmh wich is boderline safe without a steering damper. I had absolutely no issue merging with traffic and passing "slow" people. I even rode it on the track during the Canadian formula 1 GP, I understand the price is expensive but part of it is the weather sealing , the GPS/IOT and battery/BMS. I ran it in big rain and ran trough puddles full speed and those fenders are superb. The regen braking is game changing.

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

I respectfully disagree. While I understand your perspective, it's important to consider that testing a product can lead to personal bias. With my experience owning multiple electric scooters across different classes, including one with drum brakes, I believe I have a solid foundation to assess the specifications offered by the Apollo Pro. My recent video discussing why I regret buying the Segway GT 2 sheds light on this. I have a lot of experience with the specs that Apollo Pro is offering, so I don't need to buy the scooter to actually give honest feedback. Sometimes, when you actually buy oe test the product, you can become biased in your views (keyword: can). I think the Apollo Pro is a great scooter, and I appreciate the effort Apollo is putting into it but its not worth 4K. I appreciate your feedback, though.

@vwbora26

Жыл бұрын

@@KiziEwheels still it's not a review, and untill you actually test drive it won't be and you can't call any scooter equal by spec sheets. You have no idea how well the regen works on the Pro, it does not even compare to my Phantom V3, the drum brakes makes perfect sense, having a dedicated regen "throttle" you totally forget your mechanical brakes except in emergency situations and then both works together. Disc brakes requires constant ajustements and maintenance. For me it's perfect like that. If all that matters is acceleration and top speed the Pro is not the scooter for that. The Pro is cattered to the serious all weather commuter that use a scooter as a car replacement rather than the adrenaline junky. It's one of the rare scooter with a certified IP 66 rating.

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

If it truly caters to commuters, then I'm right. No commuter wants to pay 4k for an electric scooter; that's the price of a used car. The Apollo Pro has a nice design, but it's not rare. That's why it's important to familiarize yourself with other brands available out there. Many companies now claim their electric scooters are IP66 waterproof, but when I asked if the warranty covers accidental water damage to the electric components, they start telling stories. It's amusing. Apollo can continue sending people to my platform to argue semantics, but it only raises doubts about their product in my mind. If they have an issue with people providing honest, unpaid reviews about their product, then we have a problem.

@vwbora26

Жыл бұрын

​​@@KiziEwheelsest assured i'm not on Apollo's payroll and I doubt they care about youtubers with 1.4k subs much, but calling your video a review when it's not only hurt your credibility rather than the product or Apollo's. I get it , the price offends you and I mentioned why it is expensive and also you have to consider that it uses their own designed parts wich increase cost even more. I myself hesitated between a Teverun Fighter Supreme but settled for the Pro because I got it for $2800 as a beta tester and live near a service center.

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

They definitely care, and we both know it. That's precisely why you are here, and I appreciate it. Lol, now you're attacking my subscribers. It's not about having a larger subscriber base; it's about ensuring that my fellow electric scooter riders receive a fair deal. Asking everyday commuters to pay 4k for that electric scooter is a significant amount of money. Apollo is aware of this too. It should be priced more reasonably, around $1700 to $2780, not 4k. In terms of design, the Segway GT1 and GT2 is more unique compared to the Apollo Pro. Wow I wrote all this before seeing the price you got it for.

Probably my next scooter gonna be dualtron 3 over this apollo scooter lol. The fact that has more range more torque and disco lighting feature. But for portability not better then that apollo for sure. I got a new scooter arriving very soon I don't Wana say what scooter it is it's a surprise lol.

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Dualtron 3 will be a better choice over the Apollo pro. You think the Apollo pro will be more portable? It may be portable size wise, but that lack of folding latching mechanism will be a serious problem when transporting that scooter like my Segway GT 2

@JulianRides

Жыл бұрын

@Kizi Ewheels didn't think about that do you really want to get that apollo pro? Or you getting something different?

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Apollo pro does not meet up to my expectations. I'm not planning on buying any scooter for a while. The GS is sanctifying and I have not been Impressed with any upcoming scooters.

@thomasK411

Жыл бұрын

I’m with you

Over-hyped scooter, still using dynavolt cells too, which are ok. But at this price point I expect brand name high quality, high duty cycle cells LG, Samsung, Panasonic. Apollo is trying to be the Apple of the scooter world using design to pump costs.

@korngames

Жыл бұрын

I think something like a Dualtron City will dunk on the Apollo all day, while being cheaper

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

I definitely know they are going to over hype the scooter like the GT2, they are already calling it a hyper scooter

@gtone339

Жыл бұрын

@@KiziEwheels Hyperscooter?! Haha what are they thinking! Apollo is drunk lol!

@bozoking374

Жыл бұрын

the pro has a Samsung battery

All you say I'm 100% with you!!!!👌 4000$ for this.... No no no no....!!!😮 Drum brakes... Really Apollo.... Come on guys!!! Get SERIOUS!!!!🤷

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. with everything on the market already come on Apollo

@gtone339

Жыл бұрын

Agree. Not even regen brakes is enough to slow down a 70kph e-scooter in a few seconds! Needs hydraulic disc brakes instead lol

@vwbora26

Жыл бұрын

​@@gtone339i had no issue with braking power with the Pro V6, I like how you talk through your hat

bro next time screen record your phone, you can't see

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

My bad man. I did screen record my phone and laptop, but used the one from the Laptop instead since the screen is bigger. I will probably use both in the future.

The more I watch this review, the more I want a Hollyburn. I actually much prefer a thinner deck (size 10.5 shoes) & portability/weight. I want to be able to put my scooter in my car's back seat (like I can easily with my Phantom 2023), but as a car replacement, the Hollyburn seems better. You're one of very few people who spread the critically important "warning" about regen brakes: ** Regen braking is ALMOST USELESS for the first 20ft or so of high-speed emergency stops ** I have the regen brakes on my Phantom & I think they're THE best thing outside of IP66 rating, to be added to any scooter. I'm in love with it. I use it 99.999% of the time when braking for PLANNED STOPS. Like, ok, stop sign ahead in about 30ft, you can use the incremental pull of the Regen brakes to stop a LOT later, a lot quieter, smoother, without skidding (except on gravel, the back wheel will lock up) and without any wear on the regular brakes. Regen braking will stop you even harder than regular brakes - but again, only if you plan the stop. Once you get used to the Regen brakes, they're your best friend. Crank the Regen up to 10 & leave it there. Takes a good 60-100miles to get totally used to them. I installed hydraulics on my Phantom because of the option to do emergency stops. Regen on an emergency stop: 00----------00011223334447778 (*hits pedestrian) Hydraulics on a planned stop: 00------------77788899999(*yells at pedestrian) (* some guy on a Hollyburn goes by at 100km/h)

Klima will beat the living hell out of this over hype scooter i was thinking getting the apollo but nah not worth the price

I understand what you are trying to do. However, you cannot review accurately speak on a scooter you have not ridden.

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

I understand what you’re saying, but after owning a couple of scooters with similar specs and builds, I can be pretty accurate when giving feedback about some of these scooters. People have said exactly what you are saying when I would talk about the Segway GT 2 before I owned one, but since they wouldn't shut up about how it wasn’t okay for me to talk about something I didn’t own, I bought it and confirmed I’ve been right all along. Segway GT 2 is a great scooter but it’s overhyped and overpriced.

way to expensive

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

Yup. They are trying to market it like the Segway GT 2

@gtone339

Жыл бұрын

@@KiziEwheels Lets see the Apollo Pro vs Segway GT2 in real world test hehe!

speak alot about things you dont own ... maybe you should buy a gt2 and an apollo pro before comparing them both .. specialy against eachother !

I would buy a Nami any day over the Apollo piece of plastic junk...

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

A Nami seems more practical over the Apollo pro in my humble opinion.

@Steven-qm1xo

Жыл бұрын

@@KiziEwheels even the Klima version would be better...🖐

@KingK1.

Жыл бұрын

Apollo and nami are differents scooters for different usage

@americatheblind5820

Жыл бұрын

​@@Steven-qm1xoThe Klima would be more of the comparable option vs Burn-e. Similar size, deck , battery etc. Klima far better and cheaper than this. This will fail hard!

@Steven-qm1xo

Жыл бұрын

@@americatheblind5820 either or would be a good choice depending on your living situation...👍

Yes price is absolutely ridiculous there copying after how Apple inc over charge there customer's for iphone and ipads people needs to start using common sense stopped buying them.

I was tell them...I dont want him for free...looking like that is made for rainbow people...nice,cerfully ride on the flat terain to office and back..I say BS

@KiziEwheels

Жыл бұрын

I'm actually not completely sure who they are making the Apollo pro electric scooters for 🤷🏽‍♂️

@darkozivko7683

Жыл бұрын

...for new kind of people not for normal ones...