Wow, the number of quads Nathan did in this warmup 😳😳.

As long as Nathan doesn't turn up to the Olympics wearing whatever he's been wearing for the last four years, I'll live with it.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

I hope he wins gold wearing this just to annoy you.

@guittap1

2 жыл бұрын

@@divinearia1601 and he did

Thanks for posting, love your commentary!!!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hey guys! Thanks for filming the warm up!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome!

Holy moly that quad lutz from Nathan at 4:56 ("Okay Nathan" 😂😂😂)

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

If I was able to go to a competition in person I would want to sit by you guys, it sounds like so much fun

My favorite part? Dave's commentary lol I mean at least Nathan has a real costume for his short program. Not a big fan of his screen printed practice shirt but I guess that's a bit better than a straight up practice shirt.... It kinda reminds me of a poorly screen printed flag that was popular in color guards when I was in high school.....

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣❤️

I loved this! It was a montage of some of your "catch phrases!"--and gurl, I wasn't lost on the "Camden & his choker" ref. Haha. Thank you.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

Lol “this might be the worst one yet”. My thoughts exactly 😹

I’m living for your live comments, as is everyone else 😂

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Forget Johnny and Tara I'm here for Dave's commentary

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣❤️

The Ilia situation reminded me of 1980 in the decision between Sandy Lenz and Elaine Zayak. Sandy had no triples, but the committee placed her on the Olympic team and swapped in Elaine with her 7-triple program for Worlds. That gave Elaine a world of experience on which to draw as she finished second and first in the following two years.

@kirstenneville1934

2 жыл бұрын

It’s so dumb. Embarrassing

Ilia being left off the team just makes me so angry, he really has star power and huge potential.

@dannyhayes4474

2 жыл бұрын

In my opinion (HEAVILY stressed) Vincent was crazily overscored and should have been 4th instead of Jason, with the team ultimately being Nathan, Ilia and Jason

@maria-ceciliapeon5776

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannyhayes4474 A coin is in the air!

@zb6070

2 жыл бұрын

@@dannyhayes4474 Jason was massively overscored too. In the sp, no international judge would give him a 49+ in PCS even if fans want. That sp would have scored maybe 95 bc the 3A wasnt the best. And Vincent is a medal contender, they were going to take him. Jason if not a medal contender. Jason only once got above 270 this quad internationally and it was a 275. That is not competitive. Jason serves no use. His fs only average 170 so it wouldnt be much help in the team final that vincent cant do.

@hannibaljustincase9985

2 жыл бұрын

this is literally the FIRST time Ilia has skated two clean programs, while Jason has been consistently scoring around 260 internationally for a few seasons while Ilia hasn't scored that even once. I think it would be great for him to make it to the Olympics, but it's his parents/Raf/maybe even Ilia to blame- there was no campaign for him, he was doing only junior competitions and no seniors, he was not making a case for himself from the start of this season. Not to mention, USFSA was pretty transparent when it comes to their rules for Olympic team: body of work will matter. And now they're sticking with it, sticking with something we ALL knew for months and you are mad? Because they are executing what was stated in the past? I think it would be far more unfair to change what they have said about how Olympic team will be decided just because a talented teenager has pulled off two great skates.

@zb6070

2 жыл бұрын

@@hannibaljustincase9985 Jason serves 0 purpose. 260 isnt a good score anymore and jason will retire. Ilia has high scoring potential and more importantly, it is about cultivating the future, which USA and other feds do all the time. Also, ilia was skating juniors wheres scores are lower and quads are not aloud in sp, further capping his score. Sentimentally, people want jason, but strategically, it is a waste of a 3rd spot. Jason skating lights out wont win a medal. He is retiring after. there is 0 purpose to send him. Ilia lights out could win and ilia is peaking for this season. But again, it is about cultivating the future, just like how mana kawabe was sent over mai, or vincent was sent over jason in 2018.

Thanks for Posting! PS. I'm still furious that Illia isn't on the team 🙃

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@benbailey159bb

2 жыл бұрын

So am I

@KellyeR1970

2 жыл бұрын

Same here he's the #2 guy in my opinion. Those jumps are the straightest I've seen .They should have put him on the team at least for the experience you always gotta be thinking ahead. Plus I think he had a huge chance at Bronze. The US needs to get it together.

@johnseals1986

2 жыл бұрын

@@KellyeR1970 some of those judges should be fired! They were placing him 5-7th in PCS?! 1 Judge even placed Jason over Illia on the total score 🤦‍♂️

@KingJasonSlots

2 жыл бұрын

Same! A travesty!

Dave, it was SO weird to hear you without seeing you.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

Nathan elevó ésta Disciplina a un nivel Superior, llena de Pasión, alegría, calor, brillo y emoción el hielo, pinta de colores el Figure skating....... ahora sin El , parecen campeonatos junior.....sorry....

That announcer needs a raise. He was awesome.

Say what you will about Nathan's costume it's certainly eye catching, even when the camera's focused on another skater he passes by like a sheet of flame and catches yr attention.

@noran7809

2 жыл бұрын

What about ? Just love it ! 🤍

@rop888

2 жыл бұрын

Seriously if nothing else don't you want to be memorable?

@lina_xu

2 жыл бұрын

Haha exactly! It's better than the yellow one. I don't understand why people only picking on him while other skaters don't have good costume either (i.e jason brown fs costume, jimi ma fs, and vincent sp costume, i don't see their costumes are good😁)

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

@@lina_xu...it's because Nathan doesn't always dress or skate like the traditional figure skater and some are scared of his cool, sleek, athletic image. They're afraid he's going to change the sport too much from its traditional frills, feathers, glitter, and glam. Therefore, they attack what he wears as ugly...even though it's basically just the kind of gear that I can picture any athlete(a speed skater, for example) wearing. Nothing ugly about it.

@lina_xu

2 жыл бұрын

@@divinearia1601 yeah, agree.. but i have a feeling even if he wears glittery costume, people will still pick on him.

This got shortened as "men's final war" on my YT homepage but it's fitting I guess

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

Ilia has been named to Worlds, everyone. Just chill. Provided he meets the TES requirements before Worlds, he'll be going this year. He will be competing at Challenge Cup in The Hague in order to qualify, so keep an eye out. Feb. 24-27.

@carloscordero6695

2 жыл бұрын

It is still a load of BS. You have a kid with so much potential and with so much to offer to the team event, and instead of offering him the chance to rub elbows with the biggest AT the biggest competition, you send the guy who already peaked, and has no chance at a medal. No shade on Jason, but his time already passed. It is sooo stupid that they are leaving Ilia outside of the olympics.

@hannibaljustincase9985

2 жыл бұрын

@@carloscordero6695 could you remind me Ilia's PB? and Jason's/Vincent's?

@carloscordero6695

2 жыл бұрын

@@hannibaljustincase9985 PB? Come again?

@AT-jm4dl

2 жыл бұрын

World is not the same as the Olympic. Being a break out star at the Olympic could get you a lot more new fans and more importantly, endorsements ! Still, decisions have already been made, so everyone just take a deep breath and make the best of what he has.

@hannibaljustincase9985

2 жыл бұрын

@@carloscordero6695 personal best

nathan is trolling everyone with that ridiculous shirt lol

@theskatinglesson I surprised you didnt see this, but if you look in the top left of the arena, you will find Cathy, scouting for boys to add to her company to take down the ALDC once and for all.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

So cool to be there .

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

Vincent needs to learn to deal with his nerves. But can he learn this before Beijing?🤞🏾

Don't listen to mean bullies 😤🤧

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The US men's team looking strong. I wish that young Ilia could make it to the Olympic team though. It's a pity there could be only 3 slots. There's logic behind either way to justify one of them but not the other to be in the team for Men's competition. While Russian girls look dazzling in the games, I don't necessarily appreciate how they've been trained or how the Russian federation selects their Olympic team. These girls all appear like meteor. Very disappointed at how Alena Kostornaia and Anna Sherbakova have turned out. The US doesn't have to copy Russia.

como dijo Cesar cuando fue acuchillado = Vincent, tu también hijo mío

I like Vincent's long program and the costume. It's interesting that so many skaters are using programs from years past. I don't recall that happening much before. I guess it takes a while for a program to be fully developed.

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

It's inderstanable that skaters chose to go back to their best programs which they have connection for the Olympic year. It's just certain "journalist" condemned a specific skater for recycling where all US men and women (except Alysa) recycle their old programs.

@L.Spencer

2 жыл бұрын

@@yohanes2034 Not sure who or what you're referring to. In my 30 years of watching skating, most skaters didn't frequently go back to old programs. I know the pandemic has changed things, but I think it's just more acceptable to do so nowadays. Which is fine, but interesting.

@seattlesusan5464

2 жыл бұрын

@@L.Spencer Remember Victor Petrenko? He won the Olympics after recycling his program over three seasons.

Ilia has plenty of time. Michelle not going to Olympics in 94 didnt destroy her - rather (especially after 95 worlds) she realized there is more to skating than just jumps. She matured real fast into the 1996 masterpiece. Ilia will be fine. With his energy and expression already at 17, I see him seriously competing for Worlds gold by 2024 at 19yo. Get ready. Congrats to jason. He earned that 3rd spot for US at Worlds last year and is one of a kind.

@kirstenneville1934

2 жыл бұрын

But it was still a really dumb decision. The Olympics are about great athleticism, not how much time an athlete has ahead of them. He’s ready now, he should have been selected to go now. The choice was weak and embarrassing and regressive.

Not the best day for Vincent. But he has consistency issue and incorrect edge and toe pick for Lutz. His team should help work on that until the game in Beijing. Ilia, looking light with his jumps, nonetheless appeared to have incorrect entry into 4Lutz in the LP. Was he fully rotated or not pre-rotated? Judges seem to cut slack on entry to jumps all the time, regardless of who they are. Has Nathan recovered from the hip thing? I wish the best for Jason. Jason should ignore all the naysayers and stay focus on what he's good at, using it as his best weapon to attack in his game. Best wishes for the US team, safe and peace!

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Vincent has fixed his lutz edge? I remember seeing his lutz now has more pronounced outside. Ilia in the SP was outside for sure and I remember seeing minimum prerotation

@rop888

2 жыл бұрын

Nathan's still pretty obviously injured. You can see it when he does toe jumps, he tends to shake his leg. He has some kind of hip/groin problem

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

@@rop888...I was watching the live cam practice sessions at the nationals and freaked out because Nathan did a quad(can't recall which), landed, bent forward, and grimaced. You could tell he was in some pain. Definitely noticed him shaking his leg and rubbing his hip a few times too. Did the 4Lo injure him? Is that why he has ditched it?

Maybe Nathan's shirt is an ode to what happens after too many Flaming Hot Cheetos 🤮.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Ha!

Nathan's costume isn't him on the surface of the sun with some random green blob. It's a supernova...a phenomenon that occurs in space, you know, when a star explodes and you get various crazy, fiery swirls of colors created from it. Basic science.

4:56 🤍

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️

I have a feeling, not a wish, that Ilia will be at the Olympics. Chances of one of the other men testing positive is there. In my opinion the athletes should be allowed to compete as long as they are vaccinated with no symptoms. The likelihood of one of these high caliber athletes being severely impacted by the virus are small. This is once in a lifetime chance for these folks. This is only my opinion. Respectively, not looking to rile folks up and completely understand any disagreement. Go USA, excited to see the Olympics.

@zb6070

2 жыл бұрын

Eh, china has been very clear about covid requriements for a long time. PCRs are the best and most accurate test currently and they are trying to hold an olympics without causing a massive omicron spread in their country. I think China in this case is being wise. All federations knew the rules prior to this for a long time. It is why the french sat out of euros and why japan isnt sending any olympic contenders to 4cc (which japan chooses to do sometimes, and probably would have for mana kawabe and possibly wakaba).

Gosh, Nathan's costume!! 🤦‍♀I don't know which I prefer, those shapeless pyjamas or this Flaming Hot Cheetos. it reminds me of the stuff my aunt would wear to Chinese new year dinner (this particular aunt got an F for her mandatory art course btw).

@CandiceCandyLin

2 жыл бұрын

@@wh0a12 Different sense of beauty and opinions 🙂

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

Your aunt wears athletic gears to Chinese New Years dinners?

@CandiceCandyLin

2 жыл бұрын

@@divinearia1601 She does lol She actually wears athletic gear every single day, but she'll spice things up with bright colours during Chinese New Year or at weddings to look happy and bring good fortune🧧

Why is experience in the Junior division not considered 'body of work'? In Russia and Japan, the demarcation between Junior and Senior is more fluid and there is more emphasis on Junior skaters than in the United States. This is smart and how it should be. I've no doubt the selection for the Olympic team was largely made well before Nationals; Malinin was never going to be considered and this is a shame. The public should have access to broadcast performances of all Senior and Junior division skaters so that audiences (and money) can be enlarged and excitement can build for every skater in these two divisions. You don't increase the popularity of a sport by exclusive media contracts who in turn decide who sees what based upon what they think makes them the most money by selling advertising. This corporate gatekeeping is limiting the sport because it will always favor established skaters with a media presence over younger talent. This also has a huge influence over the pool of quality coaches. Making sure these up-and-coming skaters have a chance to perform at the sport's biggest events keeps them hungry and keeps the reigning champions wary -- all good for a competitive sport. Sorry for the rant; I had to vent.

Quite very very strange all the falls of the last better skaters. Except... Ilia..

Is it me or Nathan was playing it safe?

@TheFlowMind

2 жыл бұрын

I've red somewhere that he might have a hip injury.

@RM-uc4mf

2 жыл бұрын

I dont think 5quads is playing it safe. Thats his normal noh?

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

@@RM-uc4mf the beginning of the season he planned for 6 quads program.

if vincent is still flopping all over the place like this between now and olympics i need martha karoyli to switch that nice ilia boy in instead..

Go Yuzu!

His costume get worse lmao he’s trolling everyone and people will be fooled by him for real.

Nathan's look should be an automatic deduction. its hideous.

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

This isn't a beauty pageant so, no. What he's wearing fits the theme of his performance so I don't see an issue.

Emotional intentions get mediocre results. Jason should not have been picked for the olympics. From where I see it there is more benefit in sending ilia in the long and short term plans. He can benefit from this event and get experience and rub elbows with the biggest and begin forming a potentially stable male skater, and in the short term you are also aiding the team event because his point output is better than jason's. There is absolutely no benefit in sending Jason to the olympics. He already peaked. This is not shade. It is objective thinking.

🤣Está actuación de NC muestra lo sobrevalorado que está, sus puntajes fueron ridículos, solo es un saltador en patines.

@fotomagrol

2 жыл бұрын

Bien dicho.

Skating is so cute, l wish them skating clubs every single school of every single village on this planet, so they will have to build up for kids a brand new ice stadium, we need happy kids fans, let them live like champions 🤩🤩🤩🤩🥰🥰🥰🥰🎿🎿🎿🎿💯💯😍😍🤗🤗🍍🍍🍍😘😘😘😉😉😉🍷🍷🍾🍾💕💕💕🥂🥂🥂🤩🤩🥰🥰🥰💯💯💯🎺🎺🎺🎺🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

The billowy blouses + rhinestones in men's figure skating get stale for me. I like Nathan's look - at least it's fun, modern, and not boring!

@divinearia1601

2 жыл бұрын

Same. He's unique, youthful, energetic, and fun. I love it.