Several 2024 models have had this issue. Toyota hasn’t fixed the problem yet

@augurcybernaut4785

Ай бұрын

😢

@fletcherwright7042

Ай бұрын

Wait on the refresh around 2025 or 2026 it may be fixed

@augurcybernaut4785

Ай бұрын

@@fletcherwright7042 yeah but it will be the 2024s that have the marked down prices

@JoeyRiz

Ай бұрын

Yup

@davidstokes5246

Ай бұрын

That’s a lie

You are wrong- there are 2023 and 2024 failures. The reason you are seeing so many 22 models is because they have more miles on the bearing. Just wait 3 years and 36k miles and you will see how many 2024 trucks join the crowd!!

@luckyguy600

25 күн бұрын

BOOM!

@drive-channel1834

25 күн бұрын

BANG! Some more main bearings have killed themselves

@Kragum24

10 күн бұрын

Yup

@dougreed736

2 сағат бұрын

💯 your correct. In Canada, it's 2022 and 2023 involved in the recall. Also, you can easily find 2024 tundras blown up.

We fixed the problem, but we won't tell you what the problem was. Trust us.....

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

We fixed the problem, just ignore that 2024's are still failing the exact same way.

@larrycurci5453

Ай бұрын

Oh and yeah these new Tundras are about $30,000 more than the old ones with the 5.7 in them

@larrycurci5453

29 күн бұрын

So basically you already paid for an extra engine when you bought the truck.Toyota knows what they're doing. $35k for the "fix" which is just the same thing that will fail again and $30 more expensive than the previous generation Tundra.

@toology55

26 күн бұрын

Trust us 🤣

@luckyguy600

25 күн бұрын

Ya trust us on December 7th

The 23-24 models are having the same issues

The chances that the average dealership will be competent enough to put all those parts back together correctly and properly torqued is slim to none.

@StrongerThanBigfoot

Ай бұрын

They definitely will not all get torqued only run down with an impact

@jasonw8124

Ай бұрын

Yep, these engines are built in a partially automated factory with specialized, calibrated tooling, by people who ONLY assemble this engine. At the dealership, random techs reassemble this with random tools, all the parts scattered on shelves, tables. Eff that! These new engines have WAY more parts than the previous 5.7

@jamesmedina2062

Ай бұрын

the tech probably has a digital torque wrench and his tools cost him many thousands of dollars. You are not giving the dedicated and educated tech much credit. The problem os that many dealers have run their techs ragged and caused them to quit so instead they get lesser quality individuals. Its not sharing the pie that causes this everywhere. Dealers don't even buy the tools. GREED

@jerrykurl69

Ай бұрын

The tech repairing these is not the same guy doing brakes. He will definitely torque the internals of an engine properly.

@Wolfcone

Ай бұрын

​@jerrykurl69 I can half defend this. I'm CRAZY meticulous and very strict about my jobs when I do them but I've only ever removed one engine in my life. I'm doing this tomorrow. I'm super nervous but I know I'm capable. That being said "toyota will cover it free of charge" only applies to the customer. I get paid roughly 30 hours to do this. It being my first time with this engine it's going to take me wayyyy longer than that to do right. It's warranty that causes lazy incompetent techs. I want to take my time and I'm at a point in my life where I can afford not to make money for a week or two but many and I mean many techs have families and mortgages to worry about so corners will be cut. I'd say 1/4 of these will be repaired properly. That's not to shit on techs it's just annoying how people think we're evil and thief's when it's the managers and manufacturers that don't care anymore.

Whole bunch of people have said 23 and 24 models are blowing their engines too.

Not true that nothing else is affected by the main bearing failure!! Tiny pieces of that bearing have been spread throughout the motor suspended in the oil. The entire engine is compromised. Not only that, look at how complicated the assembly is. There are countless opportunities for the mechanic to make an assembly error. A complete crate engine is the proper repair method.

@jgranger2002

Ай бұрын

No such thing. Toyota and some other Japanese manufacturers don't offer a complete engine.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

@@jgranger2002 Why not? I just read the other day that GM is giving replacement crate engines to owners of vehicles with the 6.2 V8 due to improper tolerances of some component. And Toyota, who is raking in record profits, won't offer the good will of a factory replacement engine for a truck that's selling for as much as $85k? That's an absolutely terrible look for Toyota.

@jgranger2002

Ай бұрын

@@karlschauff7989 ask toyota Sir.

@narcissistinjurygiver2932

29 күн бұрын

@@jgranger2002 they better start

@jgranger2002

29 күн бұрын

@@narcissistinjurygiver2932 looks like they can't keep up with the short blocks.

Quality is going down. Who are you trying to fool.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

I've been saying this ever since my 3rd gen Tacoma was a lemon pos and my wife's 2019 Highlander had an engine failure despite everything being serviced by the dealer right up until then.

@BorderTurrets

17 күн бұрын

He says that other manufacturers are dealing with this and I agree. However, Ford and chevy simply give the customer a new engine lmao. Toyota is so cheap they want a tech to rip apart your engine for a short block patch job. Scum

anyone defending this is a clown. if this was gm ford or fca everyone would be pointing and laughing. ever since the new ceo came in they went downhill just wait till they become complete garbage

@PRO4XKEV

Ай бұрын

Toyota Trucks are over priced from the start. 2024 Taco's are having issues with engine and transmission problems and some have failed rear differentials.

@charlestimmis273

Ай бұрын

I am not defending the new CEO, however, the new Tundra design probably started in the 2020 or even earlier, The new CEO was not even there. I think he took over in 2023 if I am not mistaken.... non the less, I agree with you...

@firstlast---

Ай бұрын

Toyotas are great but I fully agree with you. This is insane. I would understand it if there was a short run of these problems but this has gone on for way too long

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

@@firstlast--- and it's not just this ongoing engine failure issue. It's things howling rear differentials on brand new 2024 Tacomas, the exact same howling rear diff issue that half of 3rd gens seemed to have to some degree. Toyota did nothing to address the issue, even as they raised prices by massive amounts.

@Mr.ErikSnake

24 күн бұрын

btuh there's no defending this garbage quality control and no 2024's are messed up too 👎🏼👎🏼🛻

Yeah cool propaganda… mine blew up… they havnt fixed it yet. Oh and I had this issue and boy was it a fight I wasn’t given a rental, and I spent 6 months battling Toyota for a buyback. Worst experience I have ever had. Mine was leaking oil everywhere after it was “fixed” and the dealer looked me in the eye and said it wasn’t leaking oil. I expected more from Toyota. They even falsified documents saying my vehicle wasn’t out of service for more than three days. It’s spent 5 months on the shop on and off. Never was fixed. lol plenty of 2023 and 2024s have had this issue. It’s a major issues.

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

Sorry to hear that. Too much arrogance at Toyota and the people who drink their Kool-Aid. All manufacturers have issues. Toyota isn't exempt.

This is what happens when you replace dependable , normally aspirated motors with unproven turbocharged junk. As a professional mechanic with fifty years of experience I will never buy a turbocharged vehicle. They are almost all oil burning, sludge making , fast wearing junk IMO.

@MendicantBias1

Ай бұрын

Except turbo diesel trucks 😂

@Riskmangler

Ай бұрын

What do you think about Chevy developing a new small block V-8? They dumped about $1B in development/manufacturing facilities about a year ago.

@mannypuerta5086

Ай бұрын

My turbocharged Cummins has 413,000 miles. Probably going to blow up any day now.

@Huey4214

Ай бұрын

@@mannypuerta5086 A lot different from a small turbocharged four cylinder gas engine. Most Industrial turbo diesel engines are designed to last a million miles or more. Most turbo 4 cylinder gas engines designed for passenger car and small suv use are designed to last as long as the warranty ends and are usually burning oil by that time.

@jamesmedina2062

Ай бұрын

@@Huey4214You produced possibly the most ignorant comment to this video. The 4 cylinder turbo has now been produced by every single manufacturer from Ford to Porsche to Mercedes. You want to lump them all together and then you back off. Just don't do it! Not smart! They are not all the same nor do they all burn oil. Educate yourself.

if i spent 70k and i see this shit.. i WOULD BE PISSED...

@roadglide1142

Ай бұрын

Right 😂

@RCCOWolke

Ай бұрын

An absolute disaster. Even the best technician won’t get this back together in factory condition. This would be like getting a post accident rebuilt vehicle.

@fjorge4014

Ай бұрын

I would def open up a case with Toyota . Get money back!!!

@BlackWarriorLures

29 күн бұрын

Honestly, I have to agree.

@benc2798

28 күн бұрын

Imagine you send the last monthly payment thinking life is good then you see this shit.

I think I’ll keep my 2018 5.7

@willg.5168

Ай бұрын

Me, as well 😆👍🏽 Limited, Crew Cab

@stevesigler5241

Ай бұрын

Keeping my 2019 5.7. 👍

@davidsdean

26 күн бұрын

Dont think man, you better keep it

@JB-ot9hi

26 күн бұрын

I'll keep my 2017 5.7, with 220,000 miles...

@willg.5168

26 күн бұрын

@@JB-ot9hi wow, you've been rolling that beast👍🏽🙂

The thought process is flawed, "you don't have to worry about quality, the warranty will cover it." It used to be that if you wanted a good warranty, you purchased a Hyundai, if you wanted a good vehicle you purchased a Toyota. It seems like that is no longer the case.

@jstutz101

Ай бұрын

Well said!

@Doomzdayxx

Ай бұрын

yup.

Government regulations are forcing these smaller turbo engines to produce more power and be more fuel efficient. I think all manufacturers are going downhill fast and it is disgusting that we the consumer are taking the fall. I would not trust my dealer to do this level of repair, sorry.

@DaddyGlez

Ай бұрын

Great comment

@narcissistinjurygiver2932

29 күн бұрын

yep the EPA has all the authority and no accountability. they are a terror organization

Heard this will be fixed for the 2037 model, SR5’s to start at $120,000.

@drive-channel1834

Ай бұрын

8-cylinder, 6-cylinder, 4-cylinder, at this rate, 2037 model will have only one cylinder, with 8 turbochargers

@PRO4XKEV

Ай бұрын

EPA is a menace.

@alfredapin2839

Ай бұрын

That comment is the best one yet!! lol

@dapsapsrp

Ай бұрын

Minimum wage will be $65/hr.

@BlackWarriorLures

29 күн бұрын

@@drive-channel1834 lol

Another channel stated that it’s a $32,000.00 repair. The resale value of these Tundras will be dirt unless Toyota extends the warranties to 200,000 miles as who in their right mind would risk that kind of money.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

They will absolutely take a massive hit in resale, even if its a truck with the original engine. People are going to shy away from a truck with engines blowing up left and right.

Our ‘23 shop truck threw a rod at 28k miles lmao. No oil to the front bearing.

@repairvehicle

Ай бұрын

0w-20 is the cause

@adidas2284

Ай бұрын

​@@repairvehicle it's an oil flow issue. Not weight. The 5.7 did not have these issues on 0w20.

@repairvehicle

Ай бұрын

@@adidas2284 5.7 did not run hot as 3.5 and 5.7 did not have fuel dilution issues either like 3.5 turbo has. 0w-20 in turbo engines becomes 0.5w-16 in less than 2k miles. Running engine on diluted oil with gasoline is the recipe for all kinds of problems.

@jerrykurl69

Ай бұрын

@@adidas2284 correct, blocked oil gallery to the number one crank bearing. Machined bad or casting sand blockage perhaps.

@adidas2284

Ай бұрын

@@repairvehicle you know this how? Did you install oil temp and pressure sensors on your 3.5 to verify this? Do you have oil analysis to prove the oil is shearing down and/or being diluted with gasoline?

If i saw my brand new Tundra truck like this I'd be aquiring a lemon lawyer asap. Thank god I got a 2020 Tundra b4 they became history. Toyota has lost their way. There was a reason the previous model sold so well. Toyota could have just added their 10 speed transmission and made an aluminum body to improve the mpg. But Toyota tried to streamline their Models and engines down to one configuration. They did the same with the new Tacoma. Use the same engine across various models and use the TNGA platform for most of the new models. It's saves production cost but if/when there is a problem it affects many various models. This is why Toyota is having so many issues right now.

@gregorylyon1004

Күн бұрын

Toyotas are junk. I've seen 2022 Camrys in the shop with blown transmissions at less than 50 thousand miles on them.

Bring back the 4.7 iforce v8 I'll take less power for hundreds of thousands of trouble free miles

@johnnycastro9796

Ай бұрын

Yea them 4.7s where good strong engines. Had a buddy who had a sequioa. Of course did all the maintenance stuff and when he sold it it had over 420k miles on it. Everything original and i did all the work on it

@JB-ot9hi

26 күн бұрын

My 2003 4.7 V8 lasted 526,000 miles and everything was original...

They should be providing crate engines not short blocks, that’s total BS. The truck is no longer new after that.

@briancoleman971

Ай бұрын

That’s the real crime here. Having a tech rebuild these in the shop is not very confidence inspiring.

@Thesinfultruth

Ай бұрын

The tech wound destroyed this

@jamesmedina2062

Ай бұрын

so you would rather buy an electric that never needs any service? the engine machining and parts manufacturing is the big deal, not the assembly especially if the head is prebuilt and the block is prebuilt.

@OldelCpt

Ай бұрын

@@jamesmedina2062maybe Toyota could also distribute its manufacturing across all its dealers then? /s it would be more efficient with all these dealers mechanics building vehicles in parallel!! Mechanics can’t even torque a damn wheel. Max torque on wheel nuts : 80 ft-lb. They were above 145 ft-lb!! On all 4 wheels: that’s 6x4 = 24 lug nuts ! And you want that kind of mechanic rebuilding an engine that is supposed to have a 60000 miles warranty? And the consumer is supposed to trust the dealers?!? Ha! Ha! My dealer could not even report the engine oil leak that was know on my engine due to a bad run. Toyota knew it, dealers knew it. They pretended not to see anything and I was too busy with a startup to look. Then when no longer under the warranty, the dealer started to point it out and requested authorization to fix it!

@jamesmedina2062

Ай бұрын

@@OldelCpt 😐 you preaching to the choir, boss. I know the drill. It's hard to get anything done right in my whole damn city! Have you worked for all the dealerships? I have for 3 makes. It is different when you have been on the inside and the outside. Like two sides of the same coin. I can tell you Discount Tire(AZ-based tire shop) torques wheels to reasonable specs. And yet still those monkeys do dumb stuff and I called them on it, having a rim scratched, had them buy me a new wheel. My Honda dealer's tech left bolts off undertray and the undertray(bellypan) was scraping on the street when I realized it. The biggest issue with HVAC was never documented. The bellypan was never replaced. At one angle I think these people are the scum of the Earth. You get it right? They will lie about having done work that really wasnt done or gleefully take 150 for 1 hour's wrk to reset computer for a wheel sensor glitch that happens if you raise one wheel and spin it manually. I left the Christmas lights on my dash for a year and one day when I plugged the airbags back into harness the ECU decided to reset itself. If you catch my drift I rarely if ever take my car to the dealer. I don't want SURPRISES. Its bad enough I hit an elk and a deer. I dont need dumb people ruining my vehicle party. Well if its any consolation, Toyota is tops company internationally and does a lot of things right. The dealer owner/ tech relationship is bad everywhere but you never know when there is a sweet thing going on at some dealership where the shop is kept clean, techs have skill, knowledge, and pride and you can rest assured the repairs will leave your car better than it left the factory. Just dream. It has to be the paradigm SOMEWHERE! 😆

I am sorry, but saying that Toyota is not going down in quality is not a true statement. The engine was rushed and not tested enough. No other ways around it. Many other issues in the new Tundra show that Toyota quality is going down and testing and quality assurance is not as it was before....To add to that, Toyota did not really listen to its customers. People want the V8 for towing and reliability. No turbo crap . You buy a Toyota for reliability, simplicity, not show or gadgets... 4Runner's bullet proof V6 is replaced by a 4Cyl turbo.. what gives.....

@Baebon6259

Ай бұрын

these TTV6 were already in the Lexus lineup for a few years. Toyota should have figure it out by now but it seems like that isn't the case.

@NorthweSteelheadJunkies

Ай бұрын

The failures are at a rate of 0.5%. All the drama less then a percent of failure rate.

@LoneWolfSparty

Ай бұрын

What gives is the fact that they're trying to get ahead of the stringent emissions standards that are upcoming. Chrysler is discontinuing the Hemi in their trucks in '25 as well because of those emissions standards.

@kjustsomeguy8824

Ай бұрын

The EPA. the EPA is what gives

@Tehilliym

Ай бұрын

@@Baebon6259made in japan vs made in n.a.

It’s how it’s put back together is the real problem

@johanndork5364

Ай бұрын

That’s a lot of skilled work. How many bolts, seals and gaskets would have to be done 100% right to last like a factory built motor.

@ericgrau123

Ай бұрын

Absolutely! We had a 6.7 power stroke Ford get a new water pump installed at a Ford Dealer and it has been a disaster since. Parts were broken and glued together. Wrong bolts put where they are not supposed to go. Leaks, and other issues from being torn apart. Working on this modern stuff is scary complicated.

2023 and 2024 Toyota & Lexus TTV6 are still having bearing failures. It's a design issue. Toyota knows, but they are hoping most make it past the warranty period. $30K-$35K repair outside of warranty.

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

I've heard this, too. The machining debris is a ruse. In this video, that's the first time I've seen the discoloration of the heat from the failed main bearing. It must've been red hot for that rod cap to discolor like that. Amazing.

The reason Toyota didn’t offer the 5.7 anymore is because too many would want it.

@LoneWolfSparty

Ай бұрын

The reason they didn't offer the 5.7 is because it won't pass the upcoming emissions standards. That's why.

@ricmagik

Ай бұрын

Too many would still complain also lol

@2URLex

Ай бұрын

America and its emissions standards. America has an agenda and everyone ignored it until now. Manufacturers had no choice but to kill reliability in favor of “cleaner” air.

@the308capital

Ай бұрын

Nope, CAFE standards and emissions. Blame the government for forcing these over engineered shlt heaps on us.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

@@LoneWolfSparty All Toyota had to do is update the 5.7 with direct injection, possible a small decrease in displacement. They didn't have to do much to get it to pass. They were cheap and decided to force us to buy their own take on the ecoboost (ecobust).

I'm an idiot. I traded my 2019 TRD Pro for a 2024. I want my V8 back. 3400 miles on the new truck, no problems yet.🤞🤞. Did my first oil change at 1500 miles.

@mathewwatkins2097

Ай бұрын

I traded in my 2022 Tundra for a 2021 TRD pro with 12k miles. I’m Not looking back

@ironmaiden8625

Ай бұрын

@@mathewwatkins2097 I wish I could find a brand new 2021 TRD Pro....

@nicholaspetre1

Ай бұрын

Yeah, definitely not smart. IF you wanted newer model, you should have waited for several years till they fix all the issues they discovered. It happens with all brand new models out there. Those latest models are the most reliable.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

I felt the same way when I traded my 2nd gen Tacoma for a 3rd gen pos.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

@@nicholaspetre1 If Toyota fixes them at all. They just released the all-new 4th gen Tacoma and it has the same junk howling rear differential that most 3rd gens had issues with. Cheap Thailand made axles.

Just had a 2023 Tundra engine blow a headgasket. 13,000 miles and its a lease. Worst engine I’ve ever seen. I am currently rocking my old 2014 Nissan Frontier 170k miles rn while its getting fixed. Stay away from Toyota 👎🏼👎🏼👎🏼

@donays8241

Ай бұрын

Lemon 🍋 🍋 🍋

@jibrilthegreat35

Ай бұрын

Ive got two Fords, one a 2002 with 210K miles, it has the 5.4L 2 valve and its all original it does have a good service record. And a 2012 Raptor with the 6.2L V8 with 185K miles, also all original and also good service records. Seems to me anything is better than a new Toyota.lol

@mikepatrona472

Ай бұрын

Toyota is not the same Toyota as it was in 95 when as long as the cars were maintained a Corolla or tundra would easily drive over 300k

@jibrilthegreat35

Ай бұрын

@@mikepatrona472 there was no tundras in 1995, just saying. But I see your point, in those years Toyotas were basic, underpowered and slightly overbuilt which resulted in good longevity. Anyone who wanted to go fast wouldnt buy a Toyota, anyone who wanted to look cool wouldnt buy a toyota. They were slow, boring but stout.

@stevieray1828

Ай бұрын

Did you really have a Tundra blow head gasket or are you just trolling on yt?

Never should have happened. They had years to perfect this engine and to this day, its a ticking time bomb. There will be NO long term reliability for this engine.

I’m a mechanic and I can say for certain, that car will never be the same. If I was the owner, I would sell it right after getting it back. This is one of the reasons why you should not buy new cars. Lease new cars, buy used cars.

How many scratches will I have on my new truck after this repair?

I purchased a 2002 Tacoma with 220k miles from a guy who just bought a new 2023 Tundra. When I saw his truck I smirked knowing that the old Tacoma will still probably outlast the new Tundra.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

True of the old 2nd gens too. Far better quality and reliability compared to the 3rd and 4th gen Tacomas. I wish I hadn't traded my 2nd gen Tacoma for a Turd gen. I'll never forgive myself.

0w20 in a twin turbo high power density engine is a fun choice. Thicker isn’t always better but two turbos get the oil hot. Hot idle oil pressure was probably very low. 5w30 minimum.

@jonesjones7057

Ай бұрын

Yes. That also combined with a high torque at very low RPM, I'm betting at such a low RPM, the oil pump isn't keeping up with the oil pressure demand for such high torque, especially with that WD40 oil.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

@@jonesjones7057 Probably lugging the engine just enough. Similar to how Ram EcoDiesels were eating crank bearings due to lugging the engine with inadequate viscosity for that task.

@countonme9893

Ай бұрын

​@@jonesjones7057you're right, that's the cause of the problem

This issue affects all models from 2022 to 2024, including the Tundra and Sequoia made in the USA, as well as the Land Cruiser and Lexus made in Japan. This confirms 100% that it is a design issue and not a suppliers or an assembly issue. I think Toyota will need to redesign the engine, which will take years of R&D, followed by building and street testing. Toyota is in a difficult position; therefore, they have not provided any explanation to their customers in the US and the Middle East, which are their largest markets worldwide. The cost for replacing the engine block is $29k! Toyota and Lexus are currently replacing the engines under warranty, but imagine if this were to happen after the warranty expires and the truck owner has to pay $29k out of pocket! Also, It is surprising that all Toyota KZreadrs are not talking about it, except for the guy in this video at minute 12:45: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4yYw8WclrDenpc.htmlsi=u4pjF0WUhijghdRH

@lespaulguitarist92

Ай бұрын

@ryangregg How would you know the exact amount of failures?? each dealer have done multiple of this job of rebuilding the tundra engine.

@pathunter7003

28 күн бұрын

@ryangregg you are definitely not that “person”

toyota tundra forum has a spreadsheet of V35-FTS failure and out of 76 reported cases, seven were 2023 model, one 2024 and the rest is 2022. Three of the 2022 had failure twice. Definitely something happening at 2022 model. Also majority close to fifty of the cases had oil change at 10,000mi (which is not good). The rest of them that had 5000mi oil change, most of them again was 2022 models. Also detuned SR variant had three cases There was two LS500 and three or four LX600 case also. Have not heard anything about LC300 or Hybrid Sequoia interestingly. Now for the LC300 probably because those are sold in world markets primarily in diesel or 4.0L V6 out of a current 4Runner In these high performance turbo-engines I would change the oil every 5000km not 5000mi (so just over 3000mi)

@PRoverLand

Ай бұрын

That’s because the Sequoias have been sitting at the car lot waiting to be bought. I can see more of these engines popping when they actually drop the prices on these and people start driving the lot rotted ones LOL. Toyota decided to go all in on turbos like the domestics went in on pure EVs and now they are all paying for it.

@NorthweSteelheadJunkies

Ай бұрын

​@PRoverLand it's because it's less then 0.5% failure rate.. rediculous this is even news

@NorthweSteelheadJunkies

Ай бұрын

@@michelle-lz8tg 76 total Tundra models not one in 200, jeeze star an incredible stretch of reality.

@hochhaul

Ай бұрын

​@@NorthweSteelheadJunkies0.5% is the claimed failure rate by a anonymous source that merely speculated at the failure rate. Considering multiple guys have had more than one engine failure, that speculated failure rate is total BS meant to minimize the PR damage.

@hochhaul

Ай бұрын

​@@NorthweSteelheadJunkies if reports on a forum is how you estimate engine failure rates, you're a dunce.

Just watched a couple of videos where this is still happening to the 2023 and 2024's. Want one of these trucks, but the risk of having to spend almost 40 grand after the 3 year warranty is up is too much to risk.

@miraphycs7377

Ай бұрын

toyota tundra forum has a spreadsheet of V35-FTS failure and out of 76 reported cases, seven were 2023 model, one 2024 and the rest is 2022. Three of the 2022 had failure twice. Definitely something happening at 2022 model. Also majority close to fifty of the cases had oil change at 10,000mi (which is not good). The rest of them that had 5000mi oil change, most of them again was 2022 models. Also detuned SR variant had three cases There was two LS500 and three or four LX600 case also. Have not heard anything about LC300 or Hybrid Sequoia interestingly. Now for the LC300 probably because those are sold in world markets primarily in diesel or 4.0L V6 out of a current 4Runner In these high performance turbo-engines I would change the oil every 5000km not 5000mi (so just over 3000mi)

The issue is present in Tundra 2022 to 2024 , Sequoia 2022 to 2024 and Lexus LX600.

@miraphycs7377

Ай бұрын

have not heard anything on the sequoia

@Chris-bl5fs

Ай бұрын

And soon to be LX550.

I wonder, if the oil coming out of the filter to the main bearing gallery flows sequentially to bearings 1 to 4 or 4 to 1 or are they fed in parallel as the front main bearing looks oil starved. Bad bearing oil feed to bearing? Perhaps an assembly issue or casting and machining issue?

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

I heard plugged oil passage through the crankshaft itself not allowing oil to get to the journal-bearing interface. This would explain why it heated up so hot that the rod cap in this video is discolored from heat. The main bearing cap must've been cherry red, maybe brighter.

Other channels are saying they are seeing the same failures on the 2023 and 2024 models. It ain’t fixed

The problem is toyota doesn't pay squat to mechanics for warranty repair labor. So when you get your fixed Tundra back, remember it was done by a mechanic that was pissed for getting the job and slapped it together as fast as possible.

Me and my SR5 sitting here looking at each other laughing our ass off.

Our reliable 1GR used to blow head gasket, 2GR used to have rubber oil line that could rupture at any time, NA 2.4 used to burn oil worse than an Audi. New engine having problems isn’t anything new. I just hope Toyota can fix up their oopses and properly improve the new engine like they used to.

@LoneWolfSparty

Ай бұрын

The 2GR oil cooler issue was a recall; some people took it in and got the metal lines installed, some didn't. (There's still some out there that have the rubber lines).

@stevelikesrhino

Ай бұрын

@@LoneWolfSparty well it was eventually a recall, same with Tacoma frame. 1GR's headgasket was never a recall, toyota just updated the headgasket and called it a day, similar to how new tundra short block got updated part number. I find it funny that people forgot how toyota has problems too, and yet, there are still 4runners and tacomas with 1GR before the headgasket revision, and yet people still swear by old toyota trucks reliability. As much as all the doomposting is getting a bit old, I do hope toyota notice this and make up to their mistakes.

@repairvehicle

Ай бұрын

Burn oil due to not enough oil changes

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

Excellent point! Previous models in their early stages had issues as well. Even if the warranty is up, and it's still a known issue, Toyota will most likely cover the repair just like they did with the oil consumption on the 2AZ engines.

@patl9364

Ай бұрын

@@stevelikesrhino As my old neighbor says "when the terrorists stop using Toyotas it's time to change"

If that was my truck, I would definitely not want it back and request a manufacturers lemon buyback. I understand you may be a qualified technician but I can assure you you will never be able to put that back the way it was from the factory. yes, it will run, it will never be as it was when it was new and if the customer is paying for a new truck and the disassembly is advanced I would definitely just want a replacement new tundra. by the way, don’t forget to all the people with this engine that the LS 500 Lexus has essentially the same and potentially the same failure .

Interesting! What about the 2022-2024 Toyota Sequoia?? The same issues appeared with the new Sequoias?

It looks like you spoke to soon. Two weeks after this video came out Toyota recalled 102,000. Tundras. 2022 AND 2023. I'm sure the 2024 will soon be added to this recall too. Toyota is claiming there was machining debris left in the engines. The problem is that the machining is done by the engine, when the main and rod bearing grenade.

JR you explain the issue so well and in terms regular folks can understand. Awesome video. Just subscribed.

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you!

My theory is that it has to do with the cast iron bearing caps embedded in the aluminum ladder casing. My theory is that the differential expansion of aluminum vs iron is causing the bearing caps to "move" out of tolerance. It starts with just a little play, but that increases over time (just like a small leak always increases over time). Solution: maybe go back to resin coating? Maybe lose the cast iron caps - stick with 1 material with 1 thermal expansion rate?

Bro 23 & 24 same problem boycotting tundra ❤

Yep I just saw on KZread that 2024 tundras still have this problem. It’s a good thing I did not shell big bucks for a lemon. Sucks because I have a 2008 tundra and wanted to upgrade but now I am holding back.

@Doomzdayxx

Ай бұрын

If you want to upgrade in reliability with Toyota, get a 1st gen Tundra. If you want something more powerful and new, get a Ford super duty with a 6.8 or 7.3 gas. Old style pushrod engines. More reliable than these turds.

I won't be touching these with a ten foot pole, especially for the unbelievable prices Toyota wants now. These bearing failures also occuring in 23's, and 24's, as shown in other channels. That's what happens when you take a light duty V6 engine and push 400 hp out of it with out increasing bearing surface area. You're essentially taking a small vehicle engine and asking it to do heavy continuous work. I know it has been used in other Toyota cars, but a car is a lighter vehicle, and doesn't typically see continuous load demands, like you see with a truck. A truck is a lot heavier, and is expected to tow and haul for extended periods of time. It makes sense to tie the caps together I suppose. The same effect as when Chevy started using a four bolt main in V8's to withstand higher torque. I doubt that's the issue. But these 3.5 bearing areas are still small, while using lighter oil. I wanted to switch from RAM to Toyota bc of hemi cam lifter issues, but those are nothing compared to this. What you're saying is true about problems across the board, at least with RAM and Ford. I've listened to a few UAW dialogues, and they swear Stellantis corporate in EU is trying to corrupt RAM and Jeep. I think it's management incompetence. They can't even supply trucks with a correct size wiring harness now. They're too short, and they have to stretch them during assembly. People are going over bumps, and connectors are pulling part. The entire auto industry has started a slow motion implosion since covid hit. Meanwhile they want Bentley prices.

Definitely not the main bearing caps causing the problems imo. This engine was first put into a 2018 LS500 and it has been 6 years and only 2 cases of engine failure for the LS500 but hella cases for the 2022 Tundras. I THINK IT WAS DUE TO RUSHED AND SHORT HANDED COVID TIME PRODUCTION

@ArnoldsDesign

Ай бұрын

I think what adds to the problem is that a car only sees high load demand for short duration, as in passing other traffic, or acceleration. Plus it's a light vehicle. But in a truck, it's much heavier, and is expected to tow and haul a lot of weight, up hills sometimes. The engine is going to see higher duration loads, and by default it cuts down on engine longevity. This has been a long standing concept with semi tractors for a long time. You can't take a little engine like this and ask it to do heavy duty work for a long time for the sake of a couple mpg's. It's ridiculous.

@theo21021

Ай бұрын

If I'm not mistaken, the engines used in the lexus are built in Japan, unlike the engine in the Toyota, which is built in U.S

@rottenrottie1515

Ай бұрын

​@@theo21021 you might be correct, but still they are having same main bearing failures on the LS500 and LX600, just in lower numbers. Just trying to figure out what's the cause. The record shows out of the 70 2022 Tundras that has main bearing failures 50 of them was doing 10k mile oil change interval . Possibly it was due to over worked human error = high failure numbers 2022 [ covid times ] IMO

@theo21021

Ай бұрын

@rottenrottie1515 If the Japanese built engines are seeing issues similar to the U.S. built engines, it's unlikely an assembly problem. I'm not sure if components are japanese made and assembled here. it could be an issue with faulty components or possibly design flaw? Hate to think the engines are that fragile that the failures are due to operating error. Then again, some people are abusive.

There are multiple KZreadrs who have reported the same issues in 2024 models I wouldn’t. Hard to believe Toyota would be so reckless with an engine design going in a truck with decades of history of reliability. That legacy is completely ruined, but on a positive note, the value of my V8 tundra is intact.

Thanks for the video! The visuals were excellent, and I admire anyone sharp enough to tackle a job like that. I was considering a new Tundra, but my 2014 5.7 with zero issues ever, is too reliable to replace with the new risky model. My previous truck was a Tacoma that I put 350K miles on with zero issues. Something wrong is going on at Toyota.

Is that just your shop that has seen 3? How big is the dealership you work at? Is there any signs on the truck that this is starting to occur? I guess it would have been nice if there was a sensor on it to let you know it’s getting too hot.

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

Yes, our shop has seen 3 total so far. Keep in mind that the 22 model year Tundra has been released for about 2, going on 3 years now. At our dealership, we have over 30 techs and service over 100 cars a day on average.

Could this also be a result of people following the recommended 10,000 mile oil change interval? I completely disregarded that in the service manual and kept the typical 5k interval in hopes of that helping prevent this.

@cheriebrewster7040

28 күн бұрын

I never go by the 10k rule. Right around 5k my oil gets changed all the time.

That’s a lot of disassembled parts. How many will be not used when reassembled???

Not just 22s. My neighbor had his 23 bought back under lemon law a few months ago.

One thing is for sure, Toyota is hoping you don't figure it out until after the warranty expires.

I have a 22. Have they figured out which manufacturing month is having the most issues? So far I’m at 18k miles and no issues other than some interior warranty work for bad door seals.

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

No, they haven't said anything yet. All Toyota said was that they know what the issue is and have fixed it. Im sure more details are to come in the future.

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

And again, it's not all the 22's that are doomed to fail. It's a small number compared to the amount sold.

Toyota Fanboy here, this is all just so unfortunate 😒 leave the motors the way they were!

@jibrilthegreat35

Ай бұрын

Anyone who calls himself a “fan boys” deserved what he gets 😂😂😂😂

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

Have some more Kool-Aid.

Its likely a main bearing oiling design problem (oil starvation). 422ftlb in the LS500 and failures are rare. 479ftlb in the Tundra and it's obviously just too much for the oiling in that area to handle.

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

It's the design of the bottom end. Instead of a traditional design with forged main bearing caps cross bolted into a deep skirt, it's an aluminum cradle with iron bearing caps cast into it. The cradle probably isn't rigid enough

does it have a variable oil pump?

Way too many potential issues from such a drastic teardown, parts on the floor scattered about , an awful lot of little components to re attach, timing chains, wiring harnesses. Good luck with all of that if it were mine I'd sell it on once it was running.

It's a GD&T issue, not a design or engineering issue. Bearings too tight or too loose will cause problems whether naturally aspirated or turbo. Toyota had a problem with the 2AZ-FE affecting 7th-generation Camries and 3rd-generation Rav 4s.

So, I have a 2022 that needed a new short block, my question is, did toyota change the main bearing in some way on these new short blocks or did they redesign the short block. It's not completely clear in the video..

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

I can assure you that they did not redesign the main bearing for the short block you got. That is an enormous undertaking.

@johnurso5184

6 күн бұрын

@rand49er while I'm sure your right, there is now a recall for 250k trucks. I would bet that toyota saying the problem is leftover machining metal is nowhere near the real problem since it's happening on new 24' tundras sooo. I go back to it being either a defect or an oiling problem. I mean the damn oil is as thin as water for God sake. Idk why they didn't stick with 5w30. How much gas could you be saving ?

No way! If this was happening with all of the other manufacturers we would hear about it just as much as we hear about it from Toyota.

Something is blocking/ restricting the oil gallery to the front main bearing. It could be a bad gallery drilling, a missing hole in the gasket or the bearing shell or an assembly mistake like, inverting the upper and lower shells. Bad, supplied parts, seem to be common, lately. The design itself, is wonderful.

@stevelikesrhino

Ай бұрын

I still believe there’s something wrong with manufacturing. A missing hole in the gasket would cause it to spin within break in period lol.

They had a similar issue in like the 2004 Tacoma, the variable timing had issues, so at some point the valve train had total failure, but they fixed the issue and Tacoma had no more issues??

I'm a GM tech and we're seeing the same issues on the 6.2s 2021 and newer. Rod bearing failure and main bearing failure

@karlschauff7989

Ай бұрын

Same root cause I'd be willing to bet -- extended oil change intervals, fuel dilution of the engine oil, not checking the oil level between oil changes. You take a 0W20, shear it and thin it down with unburned fuel, and the result is bearing failures.

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

What's causing it? Every engine has a failure prematurely but it's statistically rare. How many is GM (not just you) seeing?

@davidmyers6478

6 күн бұрын

@rand49er They're saying the cause is either improper torque from factory of the rod and main bearing caps, damaged thrust besrings, or faulty bearings installed during manufacturing of the engines.

Looks to me like the one oil pressure or journals aren't pushing enough oil during high heat or the bearings are shitty?

I've seen some 23 and 24's with similar issues. I own toyota, but when that warranty is up, better have 30k+.

No cab off? Im curious as to how difficult it is on a tundra. F150 once you get it down its a 30 minute process. Saves all that front end tear apart work

Nissan Titan has the V-8 and 2024 is last year for it. Sad and everyone bashes on the Titan much better truck IMO..

I thought it was bad castings on 2024 camshafts. Are BOTH a problem?

So if I buy a 2022 it’s should be covered by Toyota right… as far as recall or in my warranty?.

@rand49er

6 күн бұрын

It's covered, but they have no idea how they're going to fix this problem. Is that how you want to live? Waiting for Toyota to come up with a fix that may cost you a bundle?

So how hard would it be to do a v8 swap ?

@charlestimmis273

Ай бұрын

Are you sure??? you might lose the 1MPG you are saving now....

@cheriebrewster7040

28 күн бұрын

Lmao!! Thats funny right there.​@charlestimmis273

@hedgehogthesonic3181

26 күн бұрын

@@charlestimmis273 Only 1 MPG?

I’m still a fan of the Straight 6, diesel or petrol. Only need to turbo the diesel. Straight 6 much simpler.

GX550 has same engine with catastrophic failure. Holding on my '15 4runner until Toyota can figure this out.

I hope Toyota fixes these problems as it pertains to Tacoma and tundra. It is in their interests to do so. I mean they are the leading manufacture in reliability and durability. It is concerning.

Rest assured, we have corrected the problem. The fix is top secret though, so we can not reveal what we fixed. WHAT A LIE. Customers twice betrayed.

Thar truck will never be the same. Engine parts are laying on the ground collecting dust. I had frame recall on my tacoma. I sold it few months after it was done. They left leaf spring bolts loose. Bunch of broken fule line clips. Toyota should give that man a new truck and junk the old one.

Without knowing what the problem is and having Toyota actually saying it was fixed for 2023 on - I do not believe it. Also saw that 2023 on is having problems - maybe because they have not got enough mileage. Also what percent having problems. Hit or miss that someone might get engine?

New Sub here, shouldn't Toyota be shipping whole new engines to less INCONVINIENCE the owner and repair it's reputation?

@TheYotaChannel

15 күн бұрын

That's what they should do. I believe the customers will be willing to accept that, rather than the short block replacement idea. Us technicians would be happy as well.

Spun bearings from a mass produced engine is most definitely a manufacturing defect somewhere along the way. I have built performance big block and small block GM motors years ago. And I never had an engine failure. But back then. It was hand built. You took your engine to the machine shop and told them what you wanted done. Align bore. Punched out .030 or .060 over. Exhaust and intake valve size. Polish the heads. Port match intake and heads. Then you either picked up all the shiny new pieces and took them home and put it together yourself with dial indicators, plastiguage, and other fancy measurement tools. Or the machine shop would assemble the short block for you. And then the fun begins.

I don’t think they are rumors since you have one broken there. Great video, does look very intimidating and sad.

One defected part takes the whole engine down. It’s all about quality parts manufacture that goes inside it but it probably had a slight defect. What caused the engine to fail

Hard to believe a manufacturer with Toyota's budget couldn't properly endurance test these engines before homologation. A warranted full build is nice and all but 1. It's a huge inconvenience and 2. Your truck is not going to feel very new anymore

I'd blow my own head gasket seeing my new truck in a thousand pieces like this🤣

If a bearing burns up doesn’t metal enter the oil pan and to the turbo bearing ? ? ?

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

The oil pickup screen will catch some, and the oil filter will catch the rest. Unless we see metal debris or damage components on the top end. In this case, the metal debris didn't pass the oil filter, so we will re-use the other components.

@patl9364

Ай бұрын

@@TheYotaChannel "so we will re-use the other components." that there says "dump it"

Who is making these new engines for Tundra, GX, Sequoia, LC300, LX e.t.c. ? Is it one manufacturer or different ones? Can it be that engines for lexus and LC are made in Japan and for everything else in US? Could it be different parts manufactured at different places, so these particular vehicles have issues with them?

Thanks for the detailed pictures. IMO the jury still out on what's going on. Indeterminate bearing failures are difficult to diagnose, but Toyota will find the cause(s) and make a correction, they are not stupid as some on here would promote.

@OldelCpt

Ай бұрын

You are right. /s They only had 6 years to fix it. LS500 had that problem starting in 2018. They have been trying because they did change the bearings and made it worse in the Tundra!

@RonRussell-sj1zf

Ай бұрын

@@OldelCpt Not the same engine I don't think. If it had been a significant problem before it would be well known by now.

In this case, it's more easy to put in a new engine.?

@LoneWolfSparty

Ай бұрын

You can't get a new long block from Toyota. Only a short block.

Very good information and explanation,Hi sir,in my opinion the gap tolerance between the bearing is to small..

Is this problem because of 0W-20 or 0W-16 oil?? I have a 2023 Tacoma I use 0W-20 but feel it’s thin???

@ronr8800

Күн бұрын

When it gets cold like -30F that is the best oil for that engine, There has been lots of study's by now on thin synthetic oils.

Should’ve never gotten away from the old tried and true V8 engines.

Are they have problems with turbos

Excellent video breakdown. Statistically speaking this issue is irrelevant: Question: what is Toyota's repair instructions for this repair? did the spec new parts or change anything in the reassembly?

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

Thank you. Toyota wants us to replace the short block only. As you can see in the video, the cylinder heads and cam lobes are fine. Toyota said they fixed the problem. They haven't specified to us what the problem is yet. All they said was the 23 and up are in the clear.

@angryraylangivens1281

Ай бұрын

@@TheYotaChannel liar. 2023s and 2024s are still having bearing failures.

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD

Ай бұрын

​@Jrdagreat So if toyota only wants you to replace the block then would you presume there was a block manufacturing issue? Does the new block include crank, pistons and all bearings pre-installed???

@TheYotaChannel

Ай бұрын

@LexusGX460-OFF-ROAD Yes, the new short block comes with the crank, pistons, and main bearings pre installed.

@OldelCpt

Ай бұрын

@@LexusGX460-OFF-ROADa few have reported Tundras going through this a 2nd and even 3rd time. So manufacturing still an issue or the mechanics can’t put it back together well enough

I heard the blocks were not being properly cleaned after the machining and debris was still in passageways.

What makes me concern is if the bearing fail something else is likely also compromised. And a full disassembly and reassembly introduces risk of further other issues if mechanic does not do it right. All in all the new v6 is not as good as the original v8…

Did my break-in 500 miles oil change on 2024 Tundra SR (3/24) and found a lot of metallic and aluminum debris in the oil filter. Way more than normal break-in amount. Oil was clean and I will verify that by sending it to the lab. I guess recall is true that debris was left over. I think some 2024 models got the older made recalled engines. Toyota recommended 10K first oil change is killing these engines, if they have a leftover debris during manufacturing process compounded with a driving conditions (towing, etc.). Oil filter gets clogged much faster and by the time 10K is reached, oil has been washing all of that debris of the filter media through the bypass valve at the bottom of the filter and through the entire engine over and over again. The top mounted bypass valve oil filter could be beneficial. I don't know how much damage was done for 500 miles. I was driving carefully, breaking it in. I am so pissed about entire situation. I have photos, but can't attach them here. Love the truck otherwise.

I could never be happy with a new/newer vehicle that has been taken apart by a dealership.