2022 Jaguar F-Type P450 | Monkey Business
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We review the 2022 P450 V8 RWD Jaguar F-Type Convertible. For around $75,000, this may be the most refined and entertaining luxury muscle car. The updates have softened the edges and are at least 30k less than the Lexus LC500. We discuss the good, bad, and technical updates. V8 and RWD fans around the world should celebrate this monkey machine.
#cars #v8 #jaguar
Index:
00:00 Intro
00:45 Interior Impressions
2:43 Mechanical Impressions, Suspension, and Body
5:04 Driving Impressions
9:27 Final Thoughts
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Jaguar F-Type: the automotive equivalent of "who cares how smart she is, LOOK at her"
@csdstudio78
Жыл бұрын
"but it's a Jaaaaaaag."
@DrDoomBloom
Жыл бұрын
Well said 😂
@FFE-js2zp
Жыл бұрын
She’s way smarter than she looks. But the car is a brutal gorilla, fastest car under $300K. With tires.
@stilgar2007
Жыл бұрын
And let's be honest, how important is her intelligence? Do you really want to debate every point, or do you want to have peace and a good time?
@Bysior88
Жыл бұрын
Look how she goes sideways, tail happy girl
"This is the Challenger Hellcat convertible that has a higher credit score than 392 and can read." Holy shit. I almost spit my face off my head.
@Dee-xm5jr
Жыл бұрын
Same lmao
@jayesh5131
Жыл бұрын
That's was freaking hilarious 🤣 And on point 🌝
@louiearmstrong
Жыл бұрын
RCR level wordplay
My neighbor has one of these. He leaves rubber all over the place and always drives with the exhaust at the loudest. God bless him.
@SalmanG
Жыл бұрын
what a great neighbor
@cs1375
Жыл бұрын
Probably the reason why they tamed it. Haha.
@sergiosilva7411
Жыл бұрын
Amen, brother! 👍
@frouchitude1916
Жыл бұрын
lol
@princea9615
Жыл бұрын
My kind of guy
One of your most lighthearted and fun videos in a while. Jack powersliding through Mark's analysis was hilarious... Love that y'all can still take the piss while making a point.
@hamsterbrigade
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved it. Then he'd listen to the end of the analysis and say "But it's a JAGGGGGG." So good.
@animeweedlord
Жыл бұрын
what country says both "yall" and "take the piss"
@animeweedlord
Жыл бұрын
g'day mate, this was deadass your best video b
@ethereous
Жыл бұрын
well fucking said. It's absolutely the greatest videos when they disagree mid-drift.
@WarriorsPhoto
Жыл бұрын
I agree and that's what made this car video fun.
I love that Jaguar just took the Charger/Challenger route with this car, they said let's make this car decent and all the other problems can be ignored with a Supercharger V8 lol
I love that for every argument against the car Mark comes up with in the drive around the track, Jack counters by putting his foot down, making the V8 snarl loudly and taking the car sideways. And they both grin a giggle in agreement. 'nuff said! Car reviews don't get any better.
This video was awesome. There’s something great about having a fun car that isn’t taken seriously and the way you both review it.
@csdstudio78
Жыл бұрын
Yeah this vid was bonkers. Loved all the noise.
@cooperroberts1453
Жыл бұрын
Personally I think it’s a more sophisticated drop top version of the 392 scat pack, nicer interior then a dodge and maybe slightly better ride and handling, but ZF gear box, 450 hp, rwd, it’s basically a prettier convertible challenger for twice the price.
The only problem with watching NEW SG videos early in the morning is the rest of the day is dull.
This car will always put a smile on your face. I'm the owner of a 2014 v8s. I have it tuned with a double pulley swap, race exhaust, and cats/downpipes pipes. It screams like crazy. I know people give Jags shit for reliability, but the only issues I've really had was coolant hoses and a water pump. And I drive my car harder than anyone, now with 93k miles😂😂
@jasonlundy4874
Жыл бұрын
The Supercharged AJs are pretty reliable, but yes the water pump is a wear item 🤣
Absolutely hilarious video! Nobody can blend unadulterated monkey business and a worthwhile review the way you two do.
At first I said "Wow, it has a bad sound system? How pathetic." Then the driving portion played and I realized this car doesn't need a radio at all, frankly.
@killerhurtalot
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, as a owner of a 2015 F type R Coupe, when a car costs this much, this shouldn't be a issue when the other competitors doesn't have this... There's a reason why these cars have terrible depreciation since it's not worth anywhere close to the MSRP.
@Defy_Convention
Жыл бұрын
Sounds nice but on the street the radio is heard far more often than full throttle.
@mtnman1984
Жыл бұрын
@@killerhurtalot no matter what you do with the settings, it's much worse than what comes in my ten year old Honda.
@killerhurtalot
Жыл бұрын
@@mtnman1984 Unless you modify that civic engine and cut out the muffler, it just doesn't make much noise compared to a 5L V8... there's a lot less need for sound deadening. The sound system itself is alright, it's nothing great to write home about, just that the outside noise and etc kills it. The subwoofer absolutely sucks though.
@Jay-yg8jj
Жыл бұрын
For this price? It absolutely needs a good fucken sound system.
That's some of the best driving, commentating, and sound mixing I've seen/heard in any car video. Honestly after watching this, I'm totally sold for the v8 Jaggggggg! Great car and great video!
"Mitsubishi Outlander levels of bad." High praise.
@cs1375
Жыл бұрын
Least he didn't say Mirage. Although probably the same. I don't know how Mitsubishi still exist in America.
@StockySnail
Жыл бұрын
@@cs1375 I had a Mirage and it was probably the worst car I've ever owned or drove. I was poor and it looked cool/different. The Evo was their only good car and wished I never sold mine. The others are garbage.
2:39-2:41 really changed my mind about the car, the silence really symbolizes the lack of change this car has seen over 53 years. Great writing.
@klasseact6663
Жыл бұрын
53 years🤔
@bigmacdaddy1234
Жыл бұрын
Check your math.
@dielaughing73
Жыл бұрын
It was ominous
@macaron3141592653
Жыл бұрын
@@bigmacdaddy1234 (joke)
@klasseact6663
Жыл бұрын
@@macaron3141592653 ohhh, a joke...I get it🙄
Love this video! I bought a used 2014 V8 S based on your last F-Type review and have zero regrets. The interior impresses everyone who first sees it, even though it makes me go “meh”, but it’s something I never think about the moment I start driving. The party trick for me is showing how chill the car can get in normal driving mode, because 99% of the time I can’t resist having the exhaust valves open in sport/dynamic mode. The sound, throttle response, and fun handling are incredibly addictive. You can tune any of these AJ V8 engines (on the F-Type and other JLR vehicles) to around 610hp with a simple $1000-dollar etune, and around 650 with pulley/belt swaps. It also sounds like an E85 tune is out for the V6 models, netting similar power figures as this car (and they came in a manual!), with development of a V8 tune underway. The LC is still on my list, as I’d feel more peace of mind putting a lot of miles on that, and the interior looks like a much better place to be when just putting around or on longer trips. My Jag is more a weekend/fun car to me, as it feels wrong driving it civilized unless you absolutely have to. I think this refreshed F-Types with the improved interior, suspension, and tamer (still nutty) sound may be a good bridge between the two, if you could only have one car.
@jackholmes8105
Жыл бұрын
How has the f type been reliability wise? As a fun stupid gt car i keep debating on doing one.
@derpdiggler1117
Жыл бұрын
I’ve had zero problems, aside from a couple lights on interior buttons near the gear shifter that flickered then went out as soon as I bought the car (they are symmetrical and likely at the end of the wiring chain, so don’t really care, but keeping my eye on that potentially-questionable electrical work). According to the forums, you want to make sure the battery stays relatively charged to avoid any electrical weirdness, so I just make sure to drive it regularly or keep it on a trickle charger. I bought mine with a super low mileage, with it sitting near 13k, so it may be a completely different experience later on, knock on wood. I forgot to mention there are several intake mods discussed on the Jaguar forums as well. You can get it sounding much louder if you’re into that. I’d love to be able to control it in a similar fashion to the exhaust. I get the vibe your itch for the car isn’t going to go away. I’d say go for it! You can always sell or report it stolen :)
@ItsTheNada
Жыл бұрын
@@jackholmes8105 I bought a 2015 F Type R a little over a year ago and have zero regrets. It took me a while to notice the interior flaws (and yes they are real) but driving, looking at and hearing the car have made me not care about them. Purchased at 26,000 mi, it now has about 35,000 mi and the only thing that’s gone bad is an O2 sensor. I do my long cross town and spirited drives in it. I typically use something else for the grocery runs or other more mundane duties.
@Bursar60
Жыл бұрын
@@jackholmes8105 spend time on their Facebook groups to learn about the many issues. Their folks still defend them, but I also bought a 16 Ftype R based off your older video. Bought at 14k miles, sold at about 38k mile. Rear diff was already getting sketchy sounding way ahead of the 50k mile service interval, picked up noise in the front that is usually your supercharger coupler about to go, pre like2018 there's a plastic y pipe radiator line that likes to burst as a matter of time not if, which is a good way to cook the engine fast. As you've said bad infotainment bad speakers. My car has numerous plastic rattle and squeaks. Plug your own obd2 in and the battery will discharge after you remove it over a night of you don't reconnect battery. Automatic stop start re-enables automatically. Also the gauge is very picky about letting you check oil level. Edit also missed the other reply, the older v8s before exhaust sound nerfed constantly eat o2 sensors and if popcorn a lot eat the cat too.
@ItsTheNada
Жыл бұрын
@@Bursar60 I think the rear diff service interval is wrong. The fluid should be changed probably twice as often as Jag says. Also, it’s gotta stay garaged. The inlets in the hood are prone to letting water in the intake and that kills the supercharger over time. I haven’t experienced the obd2 reader issue. Mine works fine. It’s how I diagnosed my check engine (O2 sensor). Oil change is a PITA because of no dipstick for sure but a lot of cars are going that way. I’m gonna check out that y pipe for sure.
"This is the challenger hellcat convertible that has a higher credit score than 392 and can read" lollllll
This video is an example of why I will take time to watch just about everything these guys put out.
To me, this is among the last of the great Grand Touring cars in the old tradition, and as soon as I downsize out of my house, I'm buying one. Fast, comfortable, swanky and drop dead beautiful.
i have a 2022 p450 convertible in white, 20" black jag wheels, lowered it 1.5", spaced the wheels out 25mm, painted both the rear black valance, front lip body color, and i love this car! those two are a bit harsh on the car, and i know they were having fun, but it is an absolutely fabulous car.
This channel has been getting back to its roots lately. Combining dead pan humor, sarcasm, great reviews, and now editing that fades in/out too early/late. Excellent. Keep it up.
I wasn't even interested in this car's review,but damn you guys always impress me with quality content!
This is so characterful. Mark and Jack arguing while Jack is driving like a 5 year old is my favorite. Please do more of this. Modern car reviews are all the same and this makes me smile.
The evolution of your content is incredible. I love how organic, genuine and informative your videos are. Thank you SG
This was hilarious. My boss looked at me like I was crazy when I busted up laughing at my desk.
Legit laughed out loud on that one... how much P$$ am I going to get? None and then that cut off. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣☠☠☠
Quite possibly one of the best car review videos ever … and that’s saying a lot! The track run is how ever track segment should be Y’all have just sold a ton of F-Types and I hope Jaguar knows to credit y’all for that Flawed Fun at its best
Less ugly???? That old design was BEAUTIFUL
@klasseact6663
Жыл бұрын
Agreed! Those black and white commercials did it for me💯
@toysars
Жыл бұрын
I think the new design matches the rear better. Better overall design
I love how you were shutting him up by making him have fun, which is the whole point of these types of cars.
Can I just say, I love how Jack drives. Fantastic video!
This is my favorite video you've done. Except maybe just the sounds in the LFA and GT3 videos.
So good, I had to watch twice. Well Done.
“You gotta be a big boy and drive like this all the time” LOL You guys are awesome
Mark's delightfully pissed off demeanor never fails to amuse me. Never change, hehe :)
As a dealer tech i genuinely enjoy the shop segments in your videos but this one was just amazing, hit the nail on the head!
This was awesome! The level of fun we could clearly see you both were having was fantastic! Car guy fun.
Glad to see you guys have fun with these videos
You guys absolutely NAILED the audio on the track. Always love your videos 👍🏻
Fantastic video. The humor and cuts 🤌
i once saw a jaguar catch fire in a sams club parking lot. no one else was around or driving it. i called the fire department and told the store manager who announced it over the speaker system. the fire department got there and with out saying a word got out an ax and started breaking the windows and prying up the hood. the owner came out screaming that "the doors were unlocked, the doors are unlocked!" as they filled his car with water. they finished, got in the fire truck and left, 15 min and not a word was said to anyone. owner just stood there stunned.
@juliennacer8871
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
Had fun watching y’all have fun, great work on the editing tweaks, just enough comedic seasoning to make me almost care about this car 👍🏻 👍🏻
This review perfectly sums up everyone I've ever known that owns this car. These were the exact same reasons they gave me
I knew this one would be amazing. It shows when you guys really enjoy the car you guys are reviewing :)
Thanks for another one. These videos literally make my day better by a full letter grade
Thank you for continuing to be the best channel where I can find out what a car’s knuckles are made of.
Loved it guys this video was as fun as it should have
Holy crap, this was hilarious! Thank you. I needed this today, lol.
Mark, I drive mine to the limit within the speed limits all the time, other times we wont talk about. The sound is awesome and it fits within my budget. Love it.
The Coupe is absolutely STUNNING
Holy crap, does that thing sound good. Hilariously indifferent and informative video -- doesn't get any better, you guys. Awesome.
I've loved these since day 1. Wish they still had a manual version. They look great (first ones looked better), sound great, and seem like immense fun.
@GOLD_FEVER
Жыл бұрын
If you're ever likely to keep it out of the mechanics shop long enough to drive it.
@86RSJag
Жыл бұрын
Had mine for 2.5 years. Not one issue.
@FFE-js2zp
Жыл бұрын
Manual boxes can’t handle the engine. The ZF8 is a full manual, though.
@SoulRebel02
Жыл бұрын
@@FFE-js2zp lol the ZF8 is NOT a full manual. tf you smoking?
@FFE-js2zp
Жыл бұрын
@@SoulRebel02 I’m smoking all manner of “super cars” with it. The ZF8 is a full manual, buts it’s only implemented as such on an F-Type AFAIK. When I say full manual, I mean it is manually shifted and does nothing automatically. That’s not ENTIRELY true because it won’t let you lug it. But when you have 8th geared for 350 mph and 700HP, that’s a death sentence. So I’m ok with calling that manual shifting. Lots of manuals have gear lockouts under certain conditions. Again, the ZF8 transmission never shifts on its own when you are in Manual. It’s also a CVT if you lay a tune on it. I tried the CVT tune but it was too weird for me to have a full transmission within each gear. I couldn’t get my brain around new tricks. It does however increase fuel efficiency (a V8 F-Type already gets 31 mpg stock) and shaves 0.4 secs off the quarter since RPM never moves from max torque. It uses clamping power to allow any RPM in all gears at any speed. So in S mode with the CVT, the RPM jumps to max torque and never budges even as it increments through the gears. In M mode with the CVT tune you control the gear manually with the paddles and you set whatever RPM you want with the throttle. You’ll actually coast at idle, in gear, if you lighten up on the throttle in any gear. It’s the most incredible tranny ever in a production car. It also gives you 5-7% more WHP then an conventional manual and way more still compared to a conventional auto. And with a fairly harsh tune (Rolls Royce wouldn’t tune their ZF8s this way) it shifts as fast as a DCT but with roughly 200 lbs less weight. More weight is saved, and more WHP is gained, comparing to another AWD, in ZF8’s driving all 4 wheels.
Love it! Love the humor! Thank you!
This is the best review of any car ever put on the internet.
what a great review. You seared a grin onto my face.
Mark says one thing, but the smile on his face going around the track says something completely different :D
Very entertaining review....I was thinking about not watching this, but I am sure glad I did.
Almost didn’t view it, but knowing y’all I knew I had to! Didn’t disappoint! 🙌🏼
Loved this video. Exhaust system sounds amazing
As a '16 R owner I really enjoyed this one, really a fun review. I'm definitely torn between my car and the LC500 though, been wanting to try one for a while...
@veryrare7647
Жыл бұрын
really? the lc500 will still be worth money in 5 years
@DQ333
Жыл бұрын
@@veryrare7647 But it will be BORING 😆
@TheStimie
Жыл бұрын
@@DQ333 first time I've heard the lc 500 being called boring. I guess you're right. Savagegeese owns an lc500.
You guys are awesome. Very entertaining.
I laughed this entire episode. Great job guys!
The title to this video is absolutely offensive to my friend who owns an F-type. He stated clearly he only does business with gorillas.
A nice ride. One of my favorite recent reviews.
This video made me subscribe. I know not all car shows have to have jokes, but taking things a little less seriously really suits you both.
I love this car so much. Thanks for reviewing it. Definitely can’t afford it, though
100 percent the best car channel ever and it's not even close.
Loooool I was dying at the shop segment
Im too practical to want a convertible, but now I want a Jag convertible. Great video for all of our inner hooning.
Great video, gentlemen!
I actually laughed out loud when the driving impressions music kicked in
LOLOL love this video, tasteful comedy. Love you guys
one of the most beautiful cars out there.
That opening line in the shoppe is superb
Watching Jack have fun manhandling a car is so fun, especially with Marks commentary.
Thanks Kirkland for sponsoring another great video!
A manual version would be really fun. A 60's E-Type would still be my bucket list Jag though
Drove an F-Type R at a Jaguar driving event in late 2014 and fell in love with the car back then. I wanted one just for the exhaust note alone.
Savagegeese, the art of phoning it in
Funniest production yet! Awesome
You have to respect Toyota. They pretty clearly sat down and said "Let's make our own Jag but better." Boom: the LC. That's also what they did with the Land Rover (Land Cruiser), the Wrangler (FJ), the Mustang (5th gen), a golf cart (Prius), the ghosts of the 90s (GR86). And it not only made the world better, but it's forcing other car companies to be better too. (Well, except maybe JLR.)
@hotdog9262
Жыл бұрын
it may be better but boy is the lc500 ugly(meaning the front and rear)
@TheStimie
Жыл бұрын
@@hotdog9262 first person to call the lc 500 ugly. Damn people hate lexus.
@hotdog9262
Жыл бұрын
@@TheStimie personally ive never heard anyone complimenting a lexus front design. its a shame because the shape of the car nice and also fairly unique
@TheStimie
Жыл бұрын
@@hotdog9262 well I don't think it's ugly and haven't heard anyone else but you say that it was ugly. Just say you don't like front end of the vehicle. The car is not ugly.
liked, commented and subscribed for the algorithm!
Great video
"OK let's get this thing out on the road" - 🤣This was a great shtick.
The bait driving impressions just broke me 🤣🤣🤣
Still the legendary symphony of violence it's always been, we gotta love her even with the facelift boys
I know people rag on you guys a lot for being negative about cars, but man you guys really looked like you had a ton of fun! If the track segment wasn't a glowing endorsement for a car I don't know what is! Love this vid!
Love the editing and faux transitions on this one
I'm with Jack on this one. Love it. That sound is just fantastic. This is the hardest I've laughed at a Savagegeese movie in years. Loved it
Fun is fun! I rented one of these cars, the older one, 2014. It was great, sounded amazing! And even just paddling through the gears not rev’ing it out too high, it sounds soo amazing. I loved cruising around in it with the top down. I think I’m going to buy one
that was great from start to the end. not gonna lie: i often skip the tech part because i'm n idiot who only cares about the driving exp. but this time i had to watch it all - f*cking funny episode
Negligible difference between the 450 and 575 horsepower on public roads. My sport p525 is identical to sport SVR acceleration wise at like 4.6-4.7 to 60. They all sound bonkers too
@FlightX101
Жыл бұрын
For me i believe in most cases 450 is the max ill ever use for public roads. Any faster and im just asking for trouble with the cops lol. My friends EVO drag-tuned car makes near 650 and honestly we can only floor it for 2nd and some of 3rd gear. Its simply too much for the streets lol
Great freaking video
I think Mark just doesn't like that his LC has serious competition. :P
@wjm52358
Жыл бұрын
He doesn't have it anymore
Don't often see Mark smile so much it must be a fun car
It's a lovely car by any measure, so nice to look at. It will be a future classic and this configuration might be the best ever offered. Sorry, but the LC is not a player to my mind, just a poser with a trendy design language that just isn't there; no mystique whatsoever. Infotainment systems are all destined to be 'dated' so a straightforward, handsome design is the best you can hope for. With all that power and thunderous soundtrack available at any time, it would be hard to care. You had better be watching the road anyway.
The Smile on the Face while Saying Jaggggggggggg Makes me so happy :)
A video where the final thoughts weren't really needed. I could see that exhaust note becoming like Fran Drescher's laugh over time.
Awesome review, my friend had the hard top version and it sounds mean as hell following it on highway when hes giving it the beans 😂😂😂
great video
Love this review 😂
It sounds absolutely amazing