RIP Carlin Dunne.

@AdamWaheed

2 жыл бұрын

Yep. RIP to Carlin Dunne.

@kuhndj67

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure why they put a "1" on the bike instead of a "5"... I'd probably have to fix that if I ever take the v4 Multi plunge (probably won't happen unless they put a desmo v4 into one though).

backlit buttons is commonly found on various range of KTM's roadbike, they have had it even on 200cc duke

@roadglide

2 жыл бұрын

Wished premium branded BMW thought that way. Backlit? None.

I just bought one couple of months ago. And everything on this bike is so refine. The best Sport Touring bike so far for me. Keep up doing great contents. Just did a POV ride on mine recently

@SP-xd8gs

4 ай бұрын

do you tour on it? i find it stiff for touring

Nice review man

Always remember Carlin Dunne

I can watch this reviewer only on x1.25 speed :D

@bobohalma100

2 жыл бұрын

I was about to post the same thing HAH

@quietm4

2 жыл бұрын

I'd bet everyone who talks to this guy in real live wishes they can listen to him in x1.25.

I think a lot of people will buy this specifically because it isn't the adventure dad model V4S. As I am replacing a Panigale V4S and already own the 1200 DVT Enduro ...the Pikes Peak seems like a great option being much sportier than my Enduro, more road suitable than my prev Panigale and allegedly a hoot on track.

@tomtraynor5384

2 жыл бұрын

That's me. Would never buy or need 19" front wheel--plus we get all the other road-peformance tweaks. Coming in July for me.

@JeanOi

2 жыл бұрын

A lot of people will buy the PP because the average Ducati customer always go after the top of the model range. And 240kg is the opposite of a "hoot on track". Race mode is pure Ducati marketing bs.What you describe does exist tho, it's the SreetFighter V4S. If anything Ducati should leave the Multi as a touring and slap the V4 in their SuperSport range. I'll tell you what, I just sold my '21 Multi V4S after only 1 year of ownership. I thought the 19" would be bad, but it turns out Ducati did an incredible job at that. On the other hand, I thought the V4 would be a masterpiece. And it turns out it is the most boring Ducati engine I have ever riden. Completely lacking any emotion. Picture the V4 you know from your Panigale, but instead of going bonkers above 11k rpm, it just stops there. Some call it smooth, but to me that was the dealbreaker. I dont think it made me smile once. What does make me smile is the people buying the PP thinking they are getting a track-ready do-it-all bike. The days of the Multi 1200 being a superbike on stilts are long gone. The V4 is well born as a touring bike, and the PP wont change that.

@_Jaded_

2 жыл бұрын

Never fails. There is always someone with copy pasta ready and waiting to be loaded at the first signs of a comment that doesn't align with their own ideology. This last reply is such a good one... I'm definitely going to enshrine it within my library of memes to share forward. Props for spell checking, usually these are hard to read and understand. The Streetfighter v4 SP is a sweet bike ngl. Maybe I pick that up next? 🤔

@tomtraynor5384

2 жыл бұрын

@@JeanOi I agree somewhat. I’ll never track it or never thought it was a track bike. I have a KTM 890 Duke R and a KTM SMC 690 R. Which would be much more fun on track. Trading a KTM Superduke GT in for the PP. I want all bikes to be the funnest bike in their respective genre/purpose. The PP allows me to have a practical wife bike” that works well for short day trips-and will still allow me to off load wife and bags and take a little on backroads rip at our up north cottage. The “race” designation is whatever…. The “race” pipe plus “race” mapping is alleged by those who have done it-to free up the To motor operate as intended without wheezing around Euro 5 specs-not optimal. It’s too much money. It’s ok. I have more money. The PP will tote me plus my wife and she don’t know or care I bought a “hooligan” adventure bike-for ME! All good. I have had and. I longer will ever have any 19” wheel bike. No gravel roads in our future. No Super Sport either. Or Tuono for that matter-Had one. Pretty cramped for my previous broken neck to manage. The Superduke GT is very goof but not quite optimal for two-up. Those who have ridden/tested both V4’s including the PP say it is very different. Hope they are right. If not I’ll sell it and try again-but what would I buy?

@JeanOi

2 жыл бұрын

@@_Jaded_ It is far from a "copy-paste ready answer". It is my opinion, as someone who ordered a Multi V4S in March 2021, had to eagerly wait until June 2021 to take delivery because of shipping delays and subsequent delays for the engine recall and ended-up keeping the bike for 10 months. And unlike many of the reviews out there that are praising the bike, my opinion is unbiased. Unlike journalists that are kindly invited on Ducati's dime to fly across the globe on the best roads ands tracks, and who wouldn't dare say anything bad in fear to get black-listed for future launch, I was making monthly payment and can be far more critical in regard to what I'm getting for my money. My conclusion is that the Multi V4 is the least exciting bike of their range right now. And I dont think the PP will change that. Paradoxically it has to be the most versatile bike they ever did. They really created a jack of all trades that sure enough is a master of none, but is pretty darn good at a lot of things. But IMO, they did it at the cost of fun and excitment. It is fast (as any bike with 170hp would be), smooth and confidence inspiring. I was probably faster in curves than my Hypermotard, but surely the fun factor was much lower. Go to your dealer, ask for test ride and make your own opinion. As it is now, if I wanted to jump back on a Multi, I would probably go for an early 1200, save a bunch of cash, and retain most of the fun factor from the 1198 engine.

This guy’s voice drives me nuts

@Mockle07

Жыл бұрын

You…. Are…. Not…. Alone….

my stock 1250GSA (2022) still has traction/wheelie control intervene in 2nd/3rd gear. The 2 cylinder is so torquey and awesome. Turning is amazing. I've taken it to the most extreme offroading it can handle. I feel like I want a multistrada but don't want to lose any of what the BMW offers and could easily imagine I'm on a sport tourer if I want. Standing up and riding is the icing on the cake and no mention of standing comfort is a huge tragedy. I can ride at 70mph standing (turning my head as well) and it's a different thing than sitting.

@theonlyredspecial

2 жыл бұрын

You must look like superman standing at 70mph with your head cocked to the side. Do you put your left arm out in the air ? I’m only kidding btw not trolling you. Well in a nice way 😀 gs is a great bike !

@kuhndj67

2 жыл бұрын

If you're a GSA fan you'll not want the Pikes Peak... the V4S would be much closer to what you're saying you like. The Multi if anything feels like MORE of a sport tourer than the GS... more power, more tarmac capable. You mention power as something you value - well I rent the GS when I travel to Germany because I like how it's LOWER power is less likely to get me into trouble with the Polizei compared to renting a Multi or an XR (IMO the XR is the actual BMW competition for the Multistrada... not the GS). Where it falls short of the GS is when you go off tarmac... the GS's low CG makes the bike a lot more confidence inspiring on dirt (though all heavyweight bikes are pretty limited offroad). Touring comfort wise I'd give a SLIGHT nod to the GS also... though I've ridden my Multi on 12000 mile tours with multiple 16 hour days in a row in comfort - the GS is just a bit better.

Wow love the honesty re vs Multi V4S

So I think you're selling the Pikes Peak a little short on the $4k upcharge from the V4S Sport. The Pikes Peak has forged Marchesini wheels, single sided swingarm, sportier tires, Akrapovic exhaust, a MotoGP livery, Panigale brakes, track mode and as you mentioned Ohlins EC suspension. This IMO completely justifies the upcharge. Of course I believe it as I paid the extra to get the Pikes Peak in lieu of the V4S Sport. Forgot to mention carbon fiber front fairing and front fender.

@RemboUSMC

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he left a lot out with the comparison.

@THEelduderino

2 жыл бұрын

Good call on the wheels & swingarm, don’t think he mentioned it. Brakes aren’t an upgrade, V4S also have four piston Brembo Stylema & V4S Sport comes w/ same Akra can. Plus you loose heated grips & panniers if you go Pikes Peak Vs V4S or Sport. But that front wheel, especially w/ Ohlins will be quicker on track if you don’t need bags & windshield to tour. Stock V4S & Sport front end dives in & out when pushed

@robertmontefusco1902

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEelduderino yes, the EC Ohlins, Carbon and Marchesini wheels justify the upcharge IMO.

@tomtraynor5384

2 жыл бұрын

It's a completely different frame geometry and NOT just gussied up parts bin Pikes Peak--besides all things mentioned. I would never buy a 19" front wheel bike again. Did that. No need for that capability. A 17" was what it took and they gave all the trimmings as well. It's a different bike. July 29 mine will be here.

@robertmontefusco1902

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomtraynor5384 received my PP this past Thursday, put 300 miles on it in two days. It's an amazing bike, you will not be disappointed.

Does seem like a LOT of price increase over the base V4S... but the forged wheels alone are half that and I'd happily pay a couple k to get an Ohlins upgrade to my Multi... so it's not quite as crazy as you'd think (well... the price IS crazy but the V4S is just as crazy).

@ 3:03 you’re talking about back lighting on the switch gear. another motorcycle that does have back lighting on the handle bar controls is my bike. The 2022 Triumph Scrambler 1200XC. The XC and the XE are the same, so the EX also has the back lighting. Don’t quote me on this but I’d expect all the newer Triumph motorcycles to be equipped with it as well. It is pretty cool because there’s no guess work.

I think you give the best reviews. Good job bro

Thx Adam

Waiting on the Triumph Tiger 660 review 👍🏻👍🏻

Gs or MTs?which is good ?

Would be good to see how this bike compares with the S1000XR

@thierryfaquet7405

2 жыл бұрын

It’s better in every single way. It’s also double the price.

@kuhndj67

2 жыл бұрын

It's a great bike but not better in EVERY way... it's quite a bit heavier and is dyno'ing (real world numbers) at or even a bit below the XR (Ducati generally overstate power, BMW generally understate it)... so it will likely be slower. Having said that... if you're not an inline 4 fan (I'm more of a v2/v4 fan) then the XR may not excite you. (it's quick but lacks that S1000R BALLISTIC top end that makes my brain completely forget I don't like inline 4's)

You the man, Adam!

A premier on 420, is that smoke coming out of the helmet 😆

@AdamWaheed

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Dano. We did it just for you.

Great video! looks more like a super moto than a touring right?? Maybe too sporty for me, beautiful bike!!

Always a great job Adam. Thank you. Appreciate. Ride safe and ride often.

KTM 1290 SAS has backlit buttons..

@suraj250684

2 жыл бұрын

We have had it on a 150/200 cc commuter bike ( Bajaj Pulsar ) for years now !

@ricardomelo6091

2 жыл бұрын

The multistrada DVT has back-lit controls since 2015

I got to ride one of these the other day. I was on my 2022 Super Duke Evo and I traded bikes with a friend for a bit. It is definitely a big machine but comfortable, however, I was surprised at how much power it had and how effortlessly it took corners. Easily on par in both speed and handling as my SD. It s VERY expensive but I have to admit, it gives you 2 bikes in one and neither is a compromise like others. I also own a 2021 R1250GS which is also amazing but I am seriously considering selling both the BMW and the KTM for one of these.

@fentontaylor9021

8 ай бұрын

I am selling my 2023 1250 RT because I bought a Pikes Peak. Absolutely incredible in the canyons and as comfy as a GS. The engine and the quick shifter are next level

@chrisvantassel8867

8 ай бұрын

@@fentontaylor9021 I ended up buying a Pikes Peak as well but I still have my R1250GS. The PP is definitely a better sports touring machine but hard to beat the comfort of the GS. I am not 100% committed to selling my GS yet. I am gonna add heated grips and seat to the PP along with the larger windshield. It's probably ammeter of getting used to it but I will say, I have never been on a more stable bike for the freeway, the suspension is amazing.

@SP-xd8gs

4 ай бұрын

how do you like the pikes peak for touring i find it stiff myself

@SP-xd8gs

4 ай бұрын

​ Hi I did the opposite, I find the PP so "stiff" fun yes for sure but idk about "touring" on it - the rt is fun and comfy heavy tho

Is that like my ‘83 BMW R80 that conquered pikes peak last year?

@Dranreb865

2 жыл бұрын

This ducati never conquered anything, just conquered your bank account.

KTM 1290 SAS\R has backlit controls.

The bike is amazing it’s the price tag that’s not. Yes it looks great yes it has a ton of tech, but in the end is it all worth it? And do you need all of it?

@AntaresSQ01

2 жыл бұрын

It's really not that crazy price in the grand scheme of things, you pay 7-8k over what you'd pay for an S1000XR from BMW, and whilst I'm partial to the BMW, this bike is just as amazing and has a fair bit more tech. It's not at all crazy when you think about it in respect to cars or even bicycles, you're often paying thousands more for objectively worse cars and yet it's completely justified. Same with bicycles you can pay 3k for a bike, or pay 6k for a slightly better one. In my eyes, the Multistrada IS easily worth double the price of a Tracer 9 because it is more than 2x as good. And when you compare the fact that you're getting the absolute bleeding edge for the price of an entry level hatchback? Literally a no brainer. Obviously not everyone can afford an entry level hatchback, not a lot of people care enough about bikes to pay that much, but as for value for money, this is definitely in the realm of acceptable. Noone complains about Ferraris costing 150k+ even though they are no better than a 60k Merc or BMW

Montezuma grade is a great place to test a bike

Adam's hair never disappoints!! Neither does Ducati...

@AdamWaheed

2 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks man!

He sounds stoned! 😂yeah man

It's actually classified as a sport touring bike, the PP edition is beautiful no doubt however it doesn't come with certain options that my V4S Multi comes with, by the time you add the travel package (panniers, center stand, heated seats, heated grips etc) it doesn't make sense to get this your adding another$3-4k on top of the $28-29k, I'll keep my regular V4S.

@edgarg6559

Жыл бұрын

How are you liking your V4s? Thinking of getting one.

@sethruter

Жыл бұрын

@@edgarg6559 love it! I came from a Diavel 1260s & the comfort, sportiness, off-road capabilities are amazing

Week technical review and comparison. For example discs are a different sze, wheelbase is with different dimensions.

euhm, new Goldwing also has backlit buttons, fyi

Use video speed, x1,25. U Are welcome.

If you're in CA and you want to buy one, buy it from Ducati Santa Barbara, where Carlin Dunne worked and his Dad owned the shop.... R.I.P Carlin

Oh-Leens

Pikes Peak isn’t a more “sports tourer” version compared to V4S, it is more “sport” focused for those that will do track days. Benefit is front wheel transition & Ohlins, but to actually tour it removes: heated grips, side panniers, & larger windscreen at higher $. Add htd grips for another $388 & panniers for $988. While Pikes Peak is great marketing flash for Ducati, not clear what this bikes purpose would really be. For sport tourer, go V4S Full & if you really want 17” & more sport, Streetfighter exists & would smoke PP.

@tomtraynor5384

2 жыл бұрын

You are fundamentally correct. Buying one anyways. Would never buy a Panigale or a 19" wheel bike. Went through three 19: bikes (KTMs) and determined that. Trading in a Superduke GT, as it just a tad TOO sporty in riding position and pillion accommodations. I rode a V4 S and was sold--if this was a bit sportier--it would be perfect. Pikes Peak will be. Two up touring 90%. Then drop the bags and wife off--turn it to "race" (with racing exhaust, mapping and any power-nannies removed) then shred some back roads. It's two bikes. Looks great, too.

@THEelduderino

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomtraynor5384 interesting point on 2 up. I come from larger tourers & wouldn’t personally ride the MS 2 up, but certainly capable & Streetfighter would be awful. For engine, this isn’t more powerful than V4S, same HP/TQ output, you can remove all intervention on V4S also, just different throttle mapping. Also not the “race” exhaust, it has the same Akra can my V4S Sport Full came w/. Full exhaust, cat removed, 2 pipe in to can, w/ Ducati EVO map really opens these things up if that’s where you’re taking it! Where the PP will shine is front end holding lines w/ Ohlins, mine dives in & out floating through corners. Amazing bike, enjoy!

@tomtraynor5384

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEelduderino For sure the full “Race” exhaust and associated mapping. We are short day-trippers and small people at that( 5’7” and 5’ 0”). The seat is actually an easier foot reach to ground than my Superduke GT. JUST The Akra can is too quiet! I will go full exhaust and map everything. Hope you are right in your full exhaust comment as that is what I want. We shall see!

Voice made for magazines

this bike will look great in the Starbucks parking lot.

Painful narration, try at 1.5 speed.

Jesus, why does it sound like just speaking is a chore…?!

I'm just going to get the v2 and slap a 17" front wheel on.

Road

The wrong person was selected for this review ! lots of bikes have illuminated switch gear .WOW not very informed reviewer . The opinions from this guy turn me off. words don't really count for much if you don't know the market. Opinion doesn't replace fact.

Shame it has old man sitting position.

Does this guy look like a froot loop or is just me?

To me ducati has always been the harley davidson of Italy.

@Mockle07

Жыл бұрын

The two companies (and their bikes) could not be more different!

Lets cut to the chase. Is it Fun?: Yes Is it finnicky?: Yes Can it actually go on RTW trips?: Doubt it Can problems/failures be solved on the go: Doubt it Will buyers ride it to at least 100,000km/miles ever? : 99% No Will buyers store it under covers and only use it for coffee run to Starbucks: Heck Yeah! Odds of seeing one with knobby tires and mud at a dirt track near you?: Wait for hell to freeze over 1st. Opinions based on what i observe daily in a excessively rich S.E Asian country, where Ducati riders tend to not even know where is their battery located or what is the correct amount of oil for their engine. Ducati is becoming like Ferrari, a symbol of posers.