Hi, everyone, The Triumph Tiger 1200 was not launched at the time of this test. We really wanted to get it in this test, but timing for delivery of the Triumph from Europe to the USA meant it was not possible. If you'd like to read our launch report for the Triumph Tiger 1200 range, click this link: www.cyclenews.com/2022/04/article/2023-triumph-tiger-1200-gt-rally-lineup/

@johnhudghton2287

Жыл бұрын

Pity the test was not delayed for the Triumph...

@Neelkamaljada

Жыл бұрын

Why Africa twin is not guys , are you even serious.

@dayleashleynolasco5765

Жыл бұрын

I like Adventure bikes because it's different & really efficient to what their purpose is. However, it would look even cooler without the hard casses saddlebags especially in he BMW R1250RT, BMW R1250 GS Adventure or K16000 GT, Ducati Multistrada V4s, Suzuki Vstrom 1050XT or Suzuki GSX S1000 GT, Honda Africa Twin & Honda NT1100, Yamaha Nikken & etc. Its too old shool for these new Touring/Adventure riders. They don't need those today because its too heavy & ugly. And, the space are not enough to accomodate all their stuff. They are just more into luggage rack that can be buy in Rally Raid in UK for example. Also, bags attatachment hooks that secure the bags well. Well known tourer around the world use this because its more efficient & easy to handle. Itchy boots & Charly Sinewan are two of adventure bikes in the world use it rather than old ugly saddlebags, especially the hard casses which is so outdated.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

@@shermanc8768 When the Tiger 1200 is available, we will test it against the big dogs ASAP. That's for sure. I'm sure there will be a couple more bikes in this category when that happens, too. Which, if they're available when the other bikes are, we will also test them together. It's a logistical juggle to get them all in the same place so we're doing the best we can. Thanks for the comment and watching.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

@@Neelkamaljada We chose these models based on competitiveness in the marketplace at their given specs and size and availability. The AT is a bit under-gunned across the board compared to most of these massively sized weapons. Not a bad buying choice or consideration in the market at all, and we constantly recommend AT's to many. But there's only so many bikes we can compare at once so keeping it over 1,000 cc's made sense to us.

I drove the KTM 1290 SAS through South Africa few weeks back. The trip included gravel mountain passes (beautiful sceneries), some really tough off road parts until I reached paved mountain passes and advanced serpentine paths. I cannot stress enough the enormous character of this bike, it is nothing more than a beast. Hitting the paved roads like a sports bike, the amount of torque is just mind boggling. Handling off road like a boss just makes this bike unmatched. If you like to really DRIVE the bike, you could not ask for more.

I’m not an ADV rider. I’ve rode Harleys for 20 years. Done a fair share of touring. Riding dirt bikes in my youth for several years I have been really interested in the ADV for several years. Since the KTM 1290 Adventure came on the scene I have really been liking what KTM has done with the bike over the years.

Absolutely love my new 1290 Super Adventure R. It's kinda heavy but i love it in every way possible. That thing is a beast 😁👌

@silveriojohan

Жыл бұрын

Amazing to see you here loving you R🤣🤣🤣

Ducati's range is what kills it for me... Need the Enduro back!

sir - you are very gracious with your responses. It is impossible to make everyone happy with videos. Your video was very good, clear and informative. Greetings and respect to all from Durango Mexico 🇲🇽 and Africa twin owner

I have the 22 pan am special and it's an absolute blast just clicked 4k miles. I've not tried the other advs. but I've been very happy. I did add a shorter aftermarket windshield. but that's it so far.

Really well narrated, great job thank you

Nailed it man. Thxs for the vídeo. I was saving up for the t7 but now you had me having second thoughts about that KTM. Cheers.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

We appreciate the support.

WD, and totally agree with your assessments. tbf, and this coming from a '18 KLR-650 rider, the Africa Twin (dirt version, not DCT) would be my dream bike, without taking out a second mortgage. I could still rail on the dirt, and some nice bags would take care of the long trips....for a gazillion dollars less. 😲 Still.......it's nice to know how the Martha's Vineyard crowd lives. I've never had wealth jealousy.....I am a giant fan of Victoria on Nauti Style's also 😁.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

The Africa Twin is a smart choice for a lot of reasons. We are especially keen on first generation models that aren't over-complicated.

@ukmitch86

Жыл бұрын

They're not actually better though Joe are they - it's like how I'm not jealous of BMW/Merc/Audi drivers. I'm perfectly prepared to spend that sort of money on a Lexus, because I like my machines to work reliably. Prestige is a cancer on engineering.

Nice comparison. For the money, I still like the Beemer as I'm mostly a highway comfort rider. All for choices are amazing, beautiful machines. I'm anxious to see the mid-sized ADV shootout in future. Thank you.

@laynetravis

Жыл бұрын

Me too but Harley maybe is better on highway

The video feels incomplete without the new Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro and Africa Twin.

@abymathew295

2 жыл бұрын

1290 pro is in the same league,but not the Africa twin.

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

If they had only had a time machine..

I own a 2010 Multistrada now. But after several years with it I am in the market for a KTM 1290 SAR. I have thoroughly enjoyed the Multi. It's an amazing machine on the pavement, comfortable too. If my wife would dig it, I'd keep it...but, I want something savvy off-road. KTM, here I come.

I preferred an used Honda Africa Twins . Cheaper , lighter weight , good fuel mileage and durability.

@youtubeaccount9058

Жыл бұрын

But if you just wanted cheap, light, durable, and fuel efficient, the Honda Grom checks every one of those boxes.

@dietmdew845

Жыл бұрын

You don’t know what you’re talking about.

@cermaijeruk2859

Жыл бұрын

Honda africa twin is not light. I can guarantee that.

Great review. Thx. KTM knows dirt bikes

Chose the 22 HD P.A.S. and don't regret it. Love it!

1. Super Tenere 1200 2. Africa Twin 1100 adventure sport

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Good call

@Asdfghjkl1234

Жыл бұрын

@@cyclenews sir - you are very gracious with your responses. It is impossible to make everyone happy with videos. Your video was very good, clear and informative. Greetings and respect to all from Durango Mexico 🇲🇽

No sane person buys a BMW without the dynamic ESA.

As much as I love KTM I knew it was going to win. Let’s be honest, KTM has been making adventure bikes and perfecting race bikes for decades. They are the true winner.

Great video, thank you!

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

Very correctly presented, congratulations!

No matter what all tests always miss atleast 1 important competitor

I really like what KTM did with the 1290 SAR. Just what this class of bikes needed - a serious dirt road focus.

Should've compared the 1290 SAS model with ACC and 19in front.

@Daveshotpocket

2 жыл бұрын

No. That bike is an on road tourer.

@scottieray

2 жыл бұрын

I have a '22 SAS. It does very well for all roads, but does lack the R's offroad prowess. However, slap some wire wheels and dirt-capable tires on the S and you'd still get places that would surprise you. The stock Mitas on my S are actually not bad on gravel and rocky roads, but I wouldn't push it too hard with the cast wheels. I do think the S is the best choice for most riders. The WP suspension works so well and adaptive cruise is a great feature for longer asphalt rides.

@arnoldtm31

2 жыл бұрын

@@Daveshotpocket so is the multistrada v4s.

@dimosk7389

Жыл бұрын

@@Daveshotpocket it still has "off road" modes for suspension and engine, and its still a KTM, so it would proably be better than the rest in off road.

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

@@Daveshotpocket So is the Ducati. The SAS is better off road than the Ducati.

Wow... A hot Harley. Who'd a thought?!?

Nice review 👌

It all boils down to what type of riding you will do which impacts which bike offers the most value. Most riders will do an 80-20 (if that) road/off-road split. This makes the Beemer and Pan American a better value for this type of riding.

@Libbbo

Жыл бұрын

The BMW is nowhere near the KTM in terms of riding qualities. The KTM needs to be controlled and driven while the BMW mostly drives you. For a person who loves to drive a MC properly the KTM will always be the choice. For people who just likes to cruise around (boring) the BMW will probably be a better choice.

@rickc16

10 ай бұрын

BMW is a better bike!!

@Beinhartwie1chopper

5 ай бұрын

​@@rickc16ktm is cheap plastic and Bad electric

I am On my second super Duke 1290r. That motor is perfect.

Considering an adventure bike, no need for long distance so really interested in your opinion on the Experia from Energica.

Great video!

@cyclenews

11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

3 bikes with 19 inch front and electronic suspension vs. the hardcore R version KTM with 21 inch and no electronic suspension. S model would have been much more relevant on road and still be better off road vs. others rendering it a better win vs the R.

@ryanmalone2681

2 жыл бұрын

I would’ve ordered it but the dealer is over an hour away and my BMW dealer is only 20 mins away.

@gundamexia7181

2 жыл бұрын

agree

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Yet the interesting thing this test shows is the clear negatives of the 21" front wheel and more aggressive suspension on road performance/comfort didn't actually hurt the bike in the rankings. It's on-road performance is so close even with the disadvantages. We are curious if the S model would have just dominated the test with improved road manners. So, maybe having the R made this test closer, actually. Again, it often comes down to availability for our match-ups.

@ryanmalone2681

Жыл бұрын

@@cyclenews Would’ve like to see a drop/pickup test. That Super Adventure is one of the most difficult big bore ADVs to pickup, if not the hardest.

@therealturbofanisme

Жыл бұрын

@@ryanmalone2681 the new one is better with how it carries the fuel lower.

I wish you guys held off on this until the new triumph was out

Leaving out the Triumph Tiger Rally Explorer, surprising.

No Triumph Tiger 1200? That's a shame, it's a real contender now

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

If they had only had a time machine..

I bought the Pan America and guess what... it's the best bike I have ever owned and man I've owned a lotta bikes. Forget about Harley doing their homework in ADV world. They went beyond that. Its my daily rider and the heat is really not a problem.

If you used a 2020 GSA why not the 2021Triumph? And I didn't hear anything about projected reliability and maintenance.

0:22 BMW falls apart lol

@daneav8

Жыл бұрын

It was a GoPro camera falling off...probably a suction cup mount

Interesting. When a 1100cc Honda Africa Twin is no longer considered a Big Bore Adventure bike and is not included in the comparo... Or are these only Pavement Princesses? ;-)

@grandiagod

2 жыл бұрын

If a bike can only make 95 hp with 1100cc's it's not the type of bike most people think of when they hear "big bore"

@Propelled

2 жыл бұрын

Much more than 90hp is useless offroad anyway.

@michaelskinner896

2 жыл бұрын

@@grandiagod Claimed HP is 100, not 95. The previous generation 1000 is officially rated at 96. Likewise, that figure is probably conservative.

@ulaskvlcm

Жыл бұрын

Honda has 1100 cc but only 100 ps. İt’s not enough to compete with others

@Paolo1

Жыл бұрын

@@grandiagod well, considering the bore of a motorcycle has nothing to do with HP but rather the cylinder diameter, and since the Honda Africa Twin has a bore larger than the Ducati MTS V4S which is in this comparison, I think people would indeed think of the AT when thinking about big bore ADV motorcycles.

it seems like it makes more sense to compare the regular gs vs the gsa. all good. how come y'all tested gsa with aluminum bags? also, the ktm super adventure s, with 19" wheels, would seem to make more sense in this comparison.

@daneav8

Жыл бұрын

I agree....it always seems to be a comparison of the GSA to a 1290 SAR. It really should be the GS Rally (with taller suspension) compared to the 1290 SAR. the GS Rally is narrower and lighter than the GSA. I had a GSA and specifically sold it to get the Rally because I started doing a lot more offroad riding and the GSA just seemed too big physically and visually.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

BMW only had this GSA available for testing and the production package included the Aluminium bags from the factory to the dealer floor.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

@@daneav8 For sure, we'd love to get a GS Rally and test it against all GS' and then throw it into a head-to-head with a more serious off-road competitor like the KTM 1290. Adventure bike testing is amazing. Let's do them all!

Wish the Super Tenere was included..I guess because the 1200 is a touch under the 1200 mark, it didn't make the cut... also, watching this in 2024.... If BMW released a new GSA... BMW, hold my stein😆

Missing the beast = AFRICA TWIN>>>??

@bynightful

Жыл бұрын

the beast,??ktm it's there .. watch your mouth...

@b.n674

Жыл бұрын

@@bynightful lol...

I'm sure that the Duck is spectacular new but ADV is all about durability and high mileage reliability. How are the Ducks holding up over time as compared to machines like that GS-1250 and Africa Twin?

@IRLtrolls

9 ай бұрын

Agreed. Out of this group the GS is the clear winner for durability and reliability. However they didn’t include the modest Yamaha SuperTen 1200. That’s the secret “poor man’s” GS and arguably one of the most reliable motorcycle ever made.

Nice. I like it!

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

How is the HD price at $20623?? when msrp is 19,999 spoked wheels are 1000. , ride adjustable is also 1000 that paint job is 690..

I think the camera man had it right on the Yamaha T7 chase bike.

@Propelled

2 жыл бұрын

Even a T12

What? no Super Tenere?

I was excited to watch this until I found out there's no Triumph Tiger in the mix. Luckily I just bought one so I already know it's awesome. Still, it would have been nice to see how much more awesome you guys think it is than these other machines.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoy it!

Yeah, the Sucati comes with everything…except you have to pay extra for heated grips 🙄

how can you not consider honda africa twin ??

Great of you guy's to throw in the wildcard Harley Davidson, unfortunate that it had to take the place of an actual "big bore Adv" like the Africa and Tiger explorer. Quit watching after i read the title closely. .

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

We will Tiger it up when they're available. We still think the AT would get worked by the performance of this group for the macho's out there, but we can try that, too. There's still plenty to learn in here despite not including your choices above. Give it another go. Do it. Dooooo Ittttttttttt!

@godzla69

Жыл бұрын

@@cyclenews i don't disagree that there's still plenty to be learned, but its not a real shoot out, title is a little misleading, that's all. Tomatoe Towmato

It's great to see CycleNews covering the ADV segment more aggressively. Please keep in sight that this type of riding started with world-touring, not enduro racing. :^)

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

More to come!

Agreed, too bad it was taking too long for the "British" bike to arrive from Thailand.

I still don’t see anything here to drag me off of my Super Tenere.

@americandude3825

2 жыл бұрын

Yamaha is rated the most reliable.

@highwayman1218

Жыл бұрын

Though, my fully farkled S10 is the most boring of all the bikes I own... Its always my choice for interstate touring and nasty weather commuter. If I had a garage fire and all 6 burned up.... Id be at the Yamaha dealer first with the insurance check for another.

@laynetravis

Жыл бұрын

Its the peace of mind... Japanese..i have a Suzuki xf 650 so i know

@Louie_Ponce_Motography

3 ай бұрын

Good for you, man. Really good for you. I’m glad you shared that with the entire KZread family. Really good. Awesome.

Note - the camera bike was a Yamaha T7 🙂

And the reliable one? Yamaha Super Tenere.

Honda Africa Twin is for me number 1.

Great analytical review 👍

I wanna see some footage of the GoPro that fell off the BMW at 0:24

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

How about some footage of us staring at the ground for an hour looking for it as we ride back down the road? Hahaha

Really want a proper offroad review of the 1290S with tech pack and offroad mode suspension in the exact riding conditions shown in this video. Plenty of 1290R reviews already out. Thinking a 1290S would be a complete all-rounder bike if it can handle spirited offroad riding.

@CurtisBrandt

2 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 SAS. I don’t know why you’d take it very far off road. It’s probably solely my limitation but it’s way too big, heavy, and expensive. I’d like to try someone else’s SAR with good knobbies for sure. Probably only once. Haha.

@jonasbaine3538

2 жыл бұрын

@@CurtisBrandt I have 14 1190 S with knobby tires that I ride mostly off-road plus 2 up city rides. Big heavy yes but the bike does it all for me without a trailer. Came with spoked rims stock. 2017 1290 series started the cast wheels on s models. New 2021 finally has off-road mode for suspension plus a ton of adjustability apparently so I want to know how well does 21 S perform off-road.

@CurtisBrandt

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonasbaine3538 You have a cool bike and I'm sure you enjoy it. These KTMs are awesome. My 2019 has off road suspension mode too, but I"ll admit I've not given it a proper workout in the dirt. I've ridden some gravel roads on 80/20 tires and that's given me enough "moments" to dampen my curiosity. It rails on the street and that's where we'll stay. Would proper knobbies make it "fun" instead of "terrifying" for me? I dunno. I'm curious what an R model would feel like but I'm done considering riding my 2019 off road. I've seen a few of the 2022s (R and S) around at the local dealer and they look wicked. I'm sure they're great.

@srk9357

2 жыл бұрын

Just bought a new 1290S and am adding KTM spoked wheels, anakee wilds for fun in the dirt. I think part of the reason there's not many reviews of off-road on the S is because it costs a lot to spec it up for off road . Spoked rims, crash bars, bash plate. None of its standard equipment like the R. The s tires are clearly road tires. The SAS suspension is reported to have much lower limits off road. Only freaks like us want to see how far an S can go off road. Everyone else buys the R.

@jonasbaine3538

2 жыл бұрын

@@srk9357 cool. Meanwhile you can get a multistrada v4s with spoked rims, radar, and electronic suspension but its 7k more. Plenty reviews of it doing just fine off-road. Think ktm missed a segment…

Motul oil synthetic will cut the heat in half on the Pan-America Should try it

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip.

Pan america 23' what a machine!!

I found the pan America more comfortable then the BMW GS

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Nice

supertenere 1200 is watching this while eating popcorn...

Shame the Africa twin wasn’t included. I’ve rode most of the bikes included and didn’t find the Africa twin any slower on the road. It’s all down to torque and it’s low rpm. Unless you’re doing over 120 mph regularly the extra hp is unuseable.

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

Where is the Yamaha's??

Did one piece of the BMW came oof flying at the intro?

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Just kicked up a rock.

Nice god bless

Looking forward to see Triumph… Africa Twin… V-Strom…

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

You will see them in future videos

@Nomad-Drifter

Жыл бұрын

@@cyclenews Thanks for your reply. I eagerly await 🍻

Do any of the bikes have hydraulic lifters to avoid excessive future maintenance cost?

@Akfordmn

Жыл бұрын

The H-D does...

@bobmorasko

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, how can bikes that don’t incorporate hydraulic lifter technology be mentioned in the analysis as a significant item? The people reviewing these bikes are not qualified!

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

@@bobmorasko You should read this. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

T7 chase bike. My ride somehow still made it in this video 😂

Why no honda Africa twin?

0.24 What fell off the BMW ?

Yep that'd be the motorcycle I'd be buying a completely untested motorcycle by a company that specializes in bikes it need a lot of maintenance. With only a few dealers scattered throughout the world

and you recorder off board of there 700 I see... any comment on that comparison one... :)

Where's the Yamaha S10?

At :24, the BMW rider drops something (belonging?) from his bike !!!!!

I test drove a few of these options. The Pan America sold me before I left the parking lot for the test drive. KTM was my choice

Meanwhile sitting here with my T7 at half the price, 100 less lbs, and better reliability than any of them wondering what the big deal is?

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Always a good option

@ItsLeems

Жыл бұрын

Some people want a powerful bike for a more thrilling on-road ride 💁‍♂️. Considering that most people don't spend their entire trip off-road, the compromise in off-road performance due to the weight is worth it.

I feel like this is missing the Africa Twin, the champion of them all. This is like Wimbledon excluding the Russian tennis player because he was going to win.

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

I'd take the Africa Twin over the HD simply because of it's looks and the quality. It's outclassed in the group in every other way.

@blakebautista2142

Жыл бұрын

The Africa Twin Is Shit I owned It and Immediately Sold It. the Throttle Response, And Comfortability was Ass And Not to mention It Feels Heavy When You start Moving, It's like you are Constantly Fighting The Bike To turn. I bought A 1290 Super Adventure And have never been Happier than Ever

So Cycle News didn't get the news that Triumph just lunched a new Tiger 1200.

Too bad Triumph Tiger 1200 wasn't here. Maybe next time

Good to see the suzuki vstrom 1050 come out as the most honest "pavement princess" of this group.

No triumph tiger?

For OFFROAD only i would choose the KTM, for ONROAD only i would choose the Ducati... For the PERFECT MIX i bought the R1250GS..

@dimosk7389

Жыл бұрын

"perfect mix"... aka "the average all-rounder" that does nothing perfect. i think the 1290 SA-S (not R) is a much better option, both off road and on road, unless you are doing endless highway trips, where the GS is the king

@Swedeonamotorcycle

Жыл бұрын

@@dimosk7389 I did'nt like the SAS at all. Had one myself before but the older model wich I liked better... The R was better of the newer models i my opinion. The problem for me is the more bent knee angle or or would probably have bought a KTM SAR because of the price compared to the BMW. But to be honest i am thinking of the Ducati now, an absolute wonderful bike..... Just very thirsty.. 😀

@dimosk7389

Жыл бұрын

@@Swedeonamotorcycle i had the same issue when i got on the new 1290...not comfortable at all for the knees, compared to my 1290 SA-T. the multi is insanely good, but too expensive and, as you said, stupidly thirsty for a new bike. Knox armour channel made a real world comparison and it would do about 200kms per tank, compared to 320 per tank for the 1290 on the same road!!! thats insane

@kznmotorworld395

Жыл бұрын

Will second that...bm long distance runner and comfort and fuel consumption

@michaelswierczek7894

Жыл бұрын

I want to buy a new bike and I tested both of them. Gs1250 adv and Ktm 1290 SAS..... Ktm is very powerfull, feels not so heavy, and easy to handle....GS is mouch more comfortable, not so powerfull but still good enough, much better wind protection and better build quality. Im not a big fan of boxer engine but I think GSA will be much better bike for me ( 80 %road, and want to try some light offroad...)....but price is 25k usd for SAR with all options vs 32k for GSA with all options.....huge diference for slower bike...😖🤔

Shame you guys didn't get a Triumph tiger 1200

Missed opportunity to beat them with a tw200. 😁

@cyclenews

Жыл бұрын

Best comment ever. We should definitely through in a wildcard entry next time like this to take the macho seriousness out of the equation. Because, let's be honest, these bikes are ridiculous! hahaha.

@americandude3825

Жыл бұрын

@@cyclenews well said. Keep up the great content.

Why use the GSA for this comparison? Seems that the standard GS would have been a better apples to apples.

Absolutely zero chance you could buy the Pan America test bike for the price you cited in the video. The two tone color is a $600 option and the Active Ride Height adds another $1200. Just adding the numbers on Harley’s website shows a price tag of $22,423 USD. This doesn’t include freight $575, surcharge $500, and prep which will vary by dealer, but will likely avg to $1000 across US dealers. My local dealer charges $1495 for prep on all new bikes.

@windtherapy99

2 жыл бұрын

Mine was 22k otd…

@SuperSnallygaster

Жыл бұрын

@@windtherapy99 Ditto. Just about the same.

CAMERA MAN WINS ON YAMAHA T7!!!!!

Who else here is a beginner and has only got an eye for the Post apocalyptic Monstrosity that is BMW R1200GS?

the Super Tenere wins and it didn't even have to show up.

@williammahaffy4642

Жыл бұрын

Just got one. LOVE having something that's "off the radar"!!

No Honda?

With all of these electronic riding aids there really isn't much adventure left in the Adventure bike segment.

Super tenere and the Tiger should be here. I don’t think Harley even qualifies.

I’ll take the new Triumph Tiger - thanks anyway 😎👍

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

It's basically a GSA. I also would take it over a GSA.

@edombre4637

Жыл бұрын

I worry about Triumph's durability and high mileage reliability though.

Yeah, curious how the tiger would have done. BMW needs an overhaul - they need a 1200 with a 21 inch front wheel..tough to beat that KTM

@GlennFrost321

Жыл бұрын

BMW better on road, KTM better off road yet BMW 3rd, KTM 1st ??

Subtitles, please

what abt crf1100L

Missing a key bike in this shootout... Where is the Triumph Explorer?

So where is the SA-S? Wondering how that Ducati could obliterate the S on-road ?

@4tech69

Жыл бұрын

It wouldn't. They were taking some liberty there with the commentary. I think the suspension at high speed on the Ducati probably outshines the KTM as good as it is. So that's saying something. But 10K better? Never.