2022 - 2023 Tundra - 7 problems Toyota and Dealers won't tell you.

Disappointingly, Toyota is the only manufacturer moving backwards in their full size half ton when it comes to capability and functionality in several key areas - as a truck. Here are seven items where Toyota moved backwards from the 2nd gen to 2022 in capability/functionality and/or things that they just will not tell you about.
Toyota went from first to worst in class in several areas, or just failed to catch up with the full size class in others. Even, if dealers/sales personnel know this, and many don't, they are not going to tell you about it.

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  • @jeremygregory7178
    @jeremygregory71782 жыл бұрын

    They had a good reliable truck that was a fuel hog. Some weight reduction, direct injection, and a 10 speed would have been enough to keep consumers buying.

  • @gregkeller80

    @gregkeller80

    2 жыл бұрын

    Direct injection sucks

  • @jeremygregory7178

    @jeremygregory7178

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gregkeller80 ok dual injection then.

  • @getexposedlmao

    @getexposedlmao

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gregkeller80 Can you elaborate why it sucks? Its a standard for any cars nowadays

  • @mt1885

    @mt1885

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@getexposedlmao Carbon builds up on the valves and requires the 'heads' to be removed to clean. Just another maintenance nightmare - as they created a solution to a problem that did not exist. Multi port fuel injection works - direct is non stop problems.

  • @daniel9111

    @daniel9111

    2 жыл бұрын

    1st gen tundra just can't be beat. 285k and drives amazing

  • @Midwest..
    @Midwest.. Жыл бұрын

    My biggest problem with the new Tundra is I don't have one in my garage 🤨😁

  • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
    @imnotusingmyrealname45662 жыл бұрын

    That with the turning radius is really mind-boggling. TNGA-F is a global platform meaning it needs to perform in places with tiny roads. That was a massive oversight by Toyota.

  • @hellkitty1014

    @hellkitty1014

    2 жыл бұрын

    Best comment. The TNGA platform that Toyota uses reduced space across the board because of the global necessity that Toyota used.

  • @charlesreediii5083
    @charlesreediii5083 Жыл бұрын

    I have the 2022 SR5 it's one awesome truck. I use regular fuel and it moves as fast as I want it to go. I gave my son my 2017 Tundra TRD4X4 it too is a great truck but loved gasoline, only issue with that truck. My 2022 rides so much better than the 2017, with that said the 2017 was built for off road my 2022 isn't it is a 4x4. It just seemed to me you were looking for issues that make little to no difference. The 2022 doesn't get Primus gas numbers, but it gets far better than the 2017. Just my thoughts, have a great week ahead.

  • @RyDaHero10

    @RyDaHero10

    Жыл бұрын

    I love my new tundra so far. Everything seems to be small issues everyone's talking about.

  • @johnhays8708

    @johnhays8708

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree...

  • @troluc6204
    @troluc62042 жыл бұрын

    Keep up the honest reviews and that way folks deciding on whether to get the new ‘22 or not will have some things to consider… Luckily for me its: Long live my Gen2 and the V8!!

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hear you brother.

  • @Bigfish1day

    @Bigfish1day

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ll pass on the direction injection, but a 3.5L diesel engine would have been great for me.

  • @RnR_Adventures
    @RnR_Adventures Жыл бұрын

    I have a 2022 SR5 2x2 Crewmax. The only issue you describe here that could be something you could claim you didn't realize or know after a walk around and a test drive is the power using lower octane fuel. I get more power than I need from my engine on 87 octane gas. It might be better with higher octane but I don't need higher performance than I'm getting and one of the big pluses to me is the fact that I get an average of 21 MPG in this truck around town which saves me money on gas. I don't want to lose that advantage by paying the higher price for higher octane if I don't need it. All the other "issues" you describe would be obvious when you walk around the truck and take it for a test drive. So if they are issues for you, obviously, it's not the truck for you! But I love mine!

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad to hear it works for you.

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr2352 жыл бұрын

    The reason i got the 20 Tundra...i want nothing to do with turbos. I love the V8 and it isn't as bad on fuel as so many claim. I love the box size on the 20 compared to my Tacoma. The lack of a step into the box is hardly a problem...you can get a step that goes into the hitch or i also have a 3 step ladder 🪜 in my box.

  • @jessehenry3751

    @jessehenry3751

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm with ya on that 5.7 ltr motor and honestly I don't expect great gas milage from a v8 I expect it to be a bit noisy and pull all my toys.

  • @mikefoehr235

    @mikefoehr235

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jessehenry3751 Is why I got it...tow our RV. Tacoma was working hard towing. Tundra is no slouch.

  • @JLxavyo

    @JLxavyo

    2 жыл бұрын

    People who complain about fuel mileage on a truck should have bought a Prius instead

  • @IntrepidJose
    @IntrepidJose2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely love my 2018 1794 edition. All the things he’s saying about the 2022 versus the previous generations is absolutely the truth. Toyota should not have been pressured to make it “better”. The old adage goes if it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

  • @taylorjackson7908
    @taylorjackson79082 жыл бұрын

    The poor payload and less interior room killed it for me! I guess I’ll drive my 18 to the graveyard!

  • @kimberleyrutherford9820

    @kimberleyrutherford9820

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s My Plan as well!! But,I’ve Barely Broken Mine in,with Only 15.5 K Miles!

  • @Girlsontop21
    @Girlsontop212 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. Yea the dealership will never tell you anything negative, just everything you want to hear. Im happy with my 18 tundra. I will keep it forever and in the future 2-3 years maybe I'll then consider another Tundra and give my 18 one to my Son.

  • @cantaffordtodie
    @cantaffordtodie Жыл бұрын

    I have the 2023 tundra sx px double cab. I love it. yeah the mpg is a bummer but overall it’s working great. Pulls fine. it’s a truck, I don’t have a problem climbing up into the bed just like all my older trucks.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Hope it keeps serving you well.

  • @timgrinstead5738
    @timgrinstead5738 Жыл бұрын

    Yea I own a 22 Tundra and I think a lot of this is preference. When I bought my tundra I’m 6’1 with the seat raised a bit and have enough headroom to where it’s a non factor. The turning radius sucks because of the new platform they designed on the truck. The 3 inches of the bumper sticking out is a non factor when you could get a bed step for like 70 bucks. I thought you were gonna talk about things that a lot of people use in their daily life. Plus let’s be real a majority of people spending 60k+ on their truck isn’t going to take in the woods, or work out of it either. They are going to be daily driven family style trucks. The new trucks are above and beyond the previous in all aspects aside from the nitpicks you listed in the video. I never would’ve bought a tundra if it didn’t have the amount of features and equipment the new ones have. Amazing JBL system, heated and cooled seats, heated steering wheel, pano roof, 14 in screen, wireless car play. All amazing features.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Very good. Problem is my ‘18 has all those things and better seats. Just took an aftermarket head-unit.

  • @marklinley815
    @marklinley8152 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes I wish that lead engineer and designer, Mike Swears, would do a question and answer session in live tv, so we could ask these specific questions. Typically it would be prestaged, so he could prepare for all the answers, before they were even asked. Thanks for pointing out these issues. Keeping the 2007 SR5 for life.

  • @danz4928
    @danz49282 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your video. Sometimes we need to hear the things dealers and won’t tell you!

  • @KC-sz4gx
    @KC-sz4gx2 жыл бұрын

    I've had my 2022 tundra for 2 months and it is amazing truck. I love it and would recommend to anyone.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the comment, but I wonder how the guys with turbo issues would interpret that.

  • @KC-sz4gx

    @KC-sz4gx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 overall it sounds like an extremely small percentage of trucks that are doing it and they're getting fixed quickly as well.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@KC-sz4gx I don't think we know how many, and have not heard of any being fixed yet.

  • @KC-sz4gx

    @KC-sz4gx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 was watching a video about it and the youtuber was reaching out directly to toyota and that's what he was saying.

  • @quinton8312

    @quinton8312

    2 жыл бұрын

    It’s taking people 4-8 weeks to get it fixed not that quick IMO lol

  • @jshapiro34
    @jshapiro342 жыл бұрын

    I saw it coming a mile away No tow hooks No way to step into bed tailgate down Beds smaller V6 with shit fuel economy when I’d have been ok with a 10 speed v8 Interior got smaller Tech is bad Seating didn’t get better or more comfortable Cost is outrageous Bad turning radius I got a 2nd year 21 Titan pro4x and love it and didn’t even pay50k

  • @hellospring433

    @hellospring433

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have only owned Toyota since 1993. I couldn't agree with you more. Mpg is horrible

  • @lylevalentine5902
    @lylevalentine59022 жыл бұрын

    You keep breaking my heart on a new Tundra! But I appreciate these comparisons showing these differences how Toyota went backwards in so many ways! Good videos!

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Depends on what your needs are. The 2nd Gen has served me great, wish Toyota had built on it's capability. Improved MPGs might suit some, but there are too many compromises for my needs.

  • @steveh6290

    @steveh6290

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 Great points. The lack of step on the tailgate leaves me scratching my head. Overall the new gen meets my needs moreso than my 18. Great fuel economy, more power, higher payload, greater towing and a truck that blows the 2nd gen away in the driveability dept. Always a few issues with a new gen tho. Worth a test drive imo.

  • @zzanatos2001

    @zzanatos2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your heart is going to shatter when you see what Toyota does to the 4Runner next year. I've been hearing rumors of a 4-cylinder turbo.

  • @michaelevans691
    @michaelevans6912 жыл бұрын

    I am a huge fan of Toyota. I’ve owned a 4RUNNER, LandCruiser and a Tundra. I was waiting for the new Tundra to come out but after looking at it I’m actually thinking of going to a different brand. Never thought I would ever buy a truck that wasn’t a Toyota.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hopefully Toyota gets some of the messaging and has left themselves some room to make improvements.

  • @Bosha92

    @Bosha92

    2 жыл бұрын

    Go to Ram.

  • @100868ful

    @100868ful

    2 жыл бұрын

    Michael to even go to another brand is a bad idea. I had the 2018 Tundra and bought the new 2022 Tundra Limited. As an owner for three weeks I can tell you that the small things mentioned in this video is none existent once you drive the truck. It’s amazing! Yes I know the rear bumper should have been designed better and they should have put tow hooks but to switch to Ford , Chevy or Dodge is a Huge mistake. I’ve owned them all and they are garbage. Yes Chevy has a cool tailgate and Ford and Dodge have some cool gadgets but the price you pay for a truck now a days it better be reliable and hold its value. The big three haven’t figured that out yet.

  • @Captndarty

    @Captndarty

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@100868ful this guys a hater. He dedicates his whole life to bashing the new truck just so he can feel good about his 2nd gen.

  • @austinatomTV

    @austinatomTV

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Bosha92 ONLY an HD Ram. Avoid the 1500 series rams. The 2500 power wagon is phenomenal

  • @duggydo
    @duggydo2 жыл бұрын

    I’m glad you’re making these videos. I wish TFL and the other big channels would mention these things. I canceled my plans to get one when I saw how horrible this new design was. Toyota really screwed the pooch on this one.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe they'll make some improvements in the update.

  • @100868ful

    @100868ful

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had the 2018 Tundra and bought the 2022 Tundra Limited a few weeks ago. This is a Great truck. The complaints in this video are minor. Yes not having tow hooks and a place to step on the bumper wasn’t the smartest idea but this is all around a great truck and Far better than a Ford, Dodge or Chevy. Maybe Toyota missed it on a few gadgets but this truck rides amazing, turns just as good as the previous Tundra that I owned and the interior is extremely comfortable and spacious still. Toyotas reliability and resale value is untouchable plus this is a great looking truck with So many more positives than negatives. People need to stop complaining about the small stuff and recognize a great vehicle.

  • @duggydo

    @duggydo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@100868ful You sound like a salesman. I'm glad you like your truck, but that doesn't change reality. The 2022 is more expensive and has went backwards in many ways compared to the previous generation.

  • @bemine014

    @bemine014

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@100868ful only time will tell about reliability on this one, we all know how made in America truck holds its build quality. Paper specs what sell this 2022.

  • @365handle

    @365handle

    2 жыл бұрын

    You guys sound like a bunch of women complaining about their purse pockets. When the first gen T100 came out, great truck but just not for everybody. You spoiled folks can never be satisfied. "I want everything I had and tons more." So typical. I'm still embracing the new powertrain and functional design for it. Ask Ford, they can never satisfy their customers completely either. If toyota still gives you QDR, and that's good for today's time, plus unmatched resale value, plus fuel economy matched with their competitors, then I think their short falls are as bad as others. Remember, they make incremental changes over time to make their trucks better. And they've always been behind the big three cosmetically and functionality, but hold their own. I can excuse their short comings like ford customers do. I'm sure they are aware what people think and like the T100, I don't believe they are trying to steal the truck market but give you a tool you can depend on.

  • @daryoushborja5115
    @daryoushborja51152 жыл бұрын

    Great points. I don't like the worst break over and approach and departure angles. You have to spec SR5 to get 18 inch wheels. Tail gate remote sucks for me sometimes I want a locked truck with a unlocked tailgate. I don't like the feeling of a button for the tailgate. Rear shock are venerable to getting hit more than old gen.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great Points, hopefully Toyota gets some of these things addressed.

  • @sharkskin3448
    @sharkskin34482 жыл бұрын

    It's as though the '07 to '21 Tundra was built with an entirely different mission protocol. Sure, they're both pick up trucks, but our Tundras were stout, streamlined, and stronger than they needed to be. This new truck is like a tofu burger. It's answering questions no one is asking, and losing it's core values. It also looks like 2 pallets of building materials dropped off in a parking lot.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Man, that says it perfectly. I like "new and improved". Problem is the new Tundra is just new.

  • @thedesertdwellerfromutah4354

    @thedesertdwellerfromutah4354

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 When the 2007 models were introduced they showed the Tundra working on West Texas Ranches pulling Gooseneck trailers full of cattle. On Construction sites pulling trailers with Machinery, Working in Mines and quarries. This 2022 model is aimed at the beach crowd who haul their surfboard to the beach or the person who uses it to commute to the city from their affluent home in the suburbs. TOTAL FAILURE by Toyota on this Hot mess 2022 model

  • @fongvang935

    @fongvang935

    2 жыл бұрын

    The truck market has changed a lot since 2007, and they think they are catering to Truck buyers with the new redesign. They forgot that people buy Tundras because it is a reliable dinosaur that was still relatively cheaper than the competition. A top trim platinum/trdpro 2021 Tundra is about $54k, which is like a mid-level Ram Laramie/F150 XLT. This truck is 3-4 yrs late, and removed features that made it special, like a big 38-gal fuel tank, large 4.30 rear axle, excellent turn radius, bulletproof drivetrain, and looks that was mean, but modest. Toyota assumes that Truck buyers are similar to regular car/suv buyers. They are successful in those markets because the buyers see the vehicle mostly as transportation and luxury is a bonus, but most Truck buyers see their vehicle as a mobile functional tool

  • @sharkskin3448

    @sharkskin3448

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fongvang935 impressive comment!

  • @yukonstriker1703

    @yukonstriker1703

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. It's almost as if Toyota is sending a subliminal message that they are looking to get out of the truck business all together... I work for a Toyota dealership, have driven the new version and in my mind it's a big FAIL.

  • @youtubejunkie6625
    @youtubejunkie66252 жыл бұрын

    Im just glad I bought a 21 in September 21. Love the v8 and how simple everything is

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Smart move.

  • @Wtfmanlol

    @Wtfmanlol

    2 жыл бұрын

    SAME! I just bought a 2021 PLATINUM an I LOVE IT! V8 FTW!

  • @georgiafan6618

    @georgiafan6618

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wtfmanlol And you got a good deal. The ‘22 MSRP is being gouged all over the place.

  • @oliverramclam6009

    @oliverramclam6009

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@georgiafan6618 yeah these dealerships are crazy with the mark ups

  • @georgiafan6618

    @georgiafan6618

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@oliverramclam6009 Toyo dealer buys back used ‘’21-22 Tundras with low mileage - pay seller almost what he paid when new. They re-sell them at or over sticker. They’re the only available trucks on their lots. Enterprise offered me $500 over KBB for my ‘12 with 120k miles. Used market is CRAZY

  • @robertf3340
    @robertf33402 жыл бұрын

    You really make some valid points. Had you not pointed out the deficiencies in the truck, people would have missed it (including myself), until they bought the damn thing and found out over time. Really boggles the mind as to how they could have messed this up so bad. Thanks for the video

  • @jameshovey8301
    @jameshovey8301 Жыл бұрын

    I specifically bought a new Tundra in 2021 to avoid the new generation. The gas mileage is horrible. But I'm more than happy to deal with that in lieu of dealing with all the issues that has come with the new generation.. it strikes me as odd that the new Tundras went from impossible to get, to seeing 22s already on the lot selling as used... who makes a 4 wheel drive pickup without front tow hooks? 🤯

  • @henrymorgan3982

    @henrymorgan3982

    Жыл бұрын

    Very well said.

  • @Northeasy_Iowa_Outdoors

    @Northeasy_Iowa_Outdoors

    9 ай бұрын

    I bought a 2021 also. Traded a 2016 for it. One thing that i noticed right away was the tail gate is much lighter than the 2016. I'm guessing that they used much lighter gauge metal on the 2021. I am seeing 2-3 highway mpg improvement 21 vs. 16 so it seems that they used lighter materials for the entire vehicle. I would like to have the cabin upgrades that the 3rd gen offers but the V8 reliability is more important to me. I'm really glad that I got one of the last 2nd gens.

  • @JohnSmith-dj5gf
    @JohnSmith-dj5gf2 жыл бұрын

    You hit the nail on the head. I’m a Toyota guy, own a 2016 Avalon and 1980 FJ40. I was seriously considering a new Tundra as a tow vehicle for my 40 but I’m disappointed in the Tundra due to a car-like payload rating, lack of flat floor in the back, no bed access, no tow hooks, no V8, and interesting styling decisions. The Tundra might reach its tow capacity without exceeding its payload with a 120lb driver, no cargo, and a bed full of helium. I just ordered a new F250 Tremor with the 7.3L V8. Similar price point and three times the capability. My money went to Ford this time.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love that Tremor setup.

  • @nolanmonke4330

    @nolanmonke4330

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are gonna love the 22’ tremor

  • @modelb9332

    @modelb9332

    2 жыл бұрын

    Two guys have the 7.3 in the Tremor package at work. Some Nitto Ridge Grapplers and that is a hell of a truck. Bet that 7.3 lasts a long, long time too.

  • @davidrobinson4486

    @davidrobinson4486

    2 жыл бұрын

    I worked as a tech for Toyota since 1981, on and off to the tune of 32 years total time with them as a master tech. I retired March 2021. I special ordered a new F-150, extra cab, 5.0 in 2018. Ordered the 3.31 rear for mileage, it's got 10 speeds anyways... I have squeaked near 27 mpg's on the highway out of it. Average with normal driving, mostly highway is 20-22. 16-18 around town driving easy. And yes as low as 12 around town putting your foot in it all the time. BUT, overall I love it an at 4 years later am still delighted with my choice of the truck for my needs. I had an 04 F-250 with the 6.0 diesel before it. Never had an issue with it either! YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE YOUR NEW FORD!!!

  • @Sventy11

    @Sventy11

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope your SD treats you better than mine. I traded my 17 tundra in on one last year. Power steering leaked at 400 and again around 2000 miles when they finally replaced the pump. Needless to say I traded it in for a 21 tundra before I couldn't get one. I loved that truck though and never would have ditched it if I didn't have any of the aforementioned issues.

  • @briangutierrez8886
    @briangutierrez88862 жыл бұрын

    I’m a Toyota fan and owner. So disappointed with the new tundra. The engineers were smoking crack when designing this one.

  • @nocturnalme3549

    @nocturnalme3549

    2 жыл бұрын

    They copied all the other brands with cheapish styling and materials..it looks very similar to my pos Sierra. Same body panels and build quality..my new Sierra is the worst truck I've ever owned..these companies should be sued for poor quality products. Forget about all modern pickups, they are playing games right now. Go with a Tacoma or older model tundra..that's your only bet anymore. Maybe a f250 or ram25000 . The whole car market right now is collapsing

  • @georgiafan6618

    @georgiafan6618

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nocturnalme3549 I wouldn’t buy a car/truck right now but I lost an engine - need a vehicle asap. Trying to score something and then maybe trade in a year from now. The economy is in recession and I can see it collapsing end of year. Good for buyers. As you said, everything seems to be lacking in quality.

  • @dominickmamone6196
    @dominickmamone61962 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe how far out the back tail light lens comes out so far. Are going to keep it or not? good video.

  • @fongvang935
    @fongvang9352 жыл бұрын

    the 2 speed 4wd transfer case is like 200+lbs. That'll lower your payload by 200+lb, in addition if you have the 38 gallons vs 26 gallons fuel tank they will deduct from payload assuming you are full. Which is roughly 90-100lbs (12 extra gallons of fuel). So if you have the larger fuel tank and the 4wd option, its almost 300 lbs payload difference.

  • @jacobstrutner8232

    @jacobstrutner8232

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can get an f150 full size crew cab, short bed, 4x4 2.7 Ecoboost with payload package and 2200lb of payload.

  • @NorthPaddle
    @NorthPaddle2 жыл бұрын

    I agree the rear bumper set up is odd. Everyone is integrating steps and Toyota decided to delete them? I also needs recovery hooks for the way I use my truck. I’m going to hold off and see if Toyota can figure this stuff out by ‘23 or ‘24. It’s time for a refresh already. 🤔

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't travel off grid and camp in places I like to go without recovery hooks, it can make a relatively small predicament become a catastrophe.

  • @joseperezpaz9986

    @joseperezpaz9986

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure they will be making aftermarket recovery hooks

  • @rebelcitysports1outlook747

    @rebelcitysports1outlook747

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joseperezpaz9986 No chance. The frame horns are too recessed with that large overhung front fascia. It will be nearly impossible.

  • @joseperezpaz9986

    @joseperezpaz9986

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rebelcitysports1outlook747 was thinking aftermarket bumpers with recovery hooks

  • @rebelcitysports1outlook747

    @rebelcitysports1outlook747

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@joseperezpaz9986 I'm not saying it's impossible but it will be a difficult feat, especially the front bumper. If anyone had a solution, I would think it would be Toyota through their TRD division, bcuz the absence of front recovery hooks on the 2022 Tundra is costing Toyota a lot of sales. People in snowy climates need both front and rear recovery points.

  • @DakotaDave17
    @DakotaDave172 жыл бұрын

    What makes me frustrated with Toyota is that they had literally forever to come up with the next truck and pretty much dropped the ball. It went from 2007 to 2021 with a refresh and couple other updates…Ford had like 3 generations of f-150’s in that same amount of time. You would think they could have done better…the 2nd gen Tundra will forever be the best…imo

  • @mikegabler5183
    @mikegabler51832 жыл бұрын

    despite the shortcomings you mentioned here, I place a very high value on reliability and safety when I buy a truck. I would still buy this truck all day long over the competition, hands down. The composite bed is such an improvement over a steel bed.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    perhaps you should check out some of the posts on fit and finish problems, not to mention the turbo wastegate

  • @jameshovey8301

    @jameshovey8301

    Жыл бұрын

    Let us know how that turbo holds up for you.

  • @Cmdr_leadfarmer

    @Cmdr_leadfarmer

    6 ай бұрын

    I’ll chip in here I owned a 23 iforce max. I bought it thinking I was getting a reliable truck. It was not. it completely shut down on me at a stop light and not just because it’s a hybrid I mean it shut down like no gauges no lights nothing. It knocked itself out of gear backing out of a parking spot and let me tell you about the rattles omg the rattles. It was the fastest I’ve ever traded a vehicle in with the only good thing I can say being the resale value was decent. I personally went back to ram and will never buy Toyota again. Weird times we live in where a dodge is a higher quality vehicle than Toyota.

  • @jdfleetguy28
    @jdfleetguy282 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video. Very interesting. I have several Tundra, 2017-2021s in my business fleet. All really nice trucks. I had picked up on several concerns about the new Toyota trucks. This video, really brought to light some additional issues I had not noticed.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just depends on what your fleet does I guess. For some theses aren't big issues. For me, they make it undesirable.

  • @djjf45
    @djjf452 жыл бұрын

    This is a really good video. The increased turning radius was one big factor in me getting my deposit back. Even though we love the old tundra Axles, the ratings on the new ones are still pretty competitive ballpark wise with others, but the payload is still nothing to write home about

  • @alikhan81
    @alikhan812 жыл бұрын

    I'm only 5'8" and the grab handle was so freaking tight for my hands that the salesperson told me to just use the steering wheel to pull myself in because and I quote, "who even uses the grab handle" The power bed-step should've been standard in limited but instead it's not even available in limited. It's only available in platinum (not standard). Also they told me that if you want a/c power you gotta get the panoramic sunroof.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for that.

  • @packman0439
    @packman04392 жыл бұрын

    Wow, is that all? Just 10 minutes? Must be a decent truck. Good video dude.

  • @mjuberian
    @mjuberian2 жыл бұрын

    It is just mind boggling how Toyota could screw this up this bad after years of hype and anticipation. I have told many people about how great my turning radius is on my 2020, to think that even this is now gone is unbelievable, no tow hooks, marginally better mileage Ugly as hell looks, I am sorry this is a hard NO for me. Love your videos.

  • @rolandtariche4602

    @rolandtariche4602

    2 жыл бұрын

    You don't buy a truck for it's turning radius. If you don't like the truck buy the competition instead of nitpicking.

  • @dougg4633

    @dougg4633

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rolandtariche4602 Turning radius is the Main reason I bought the 2021 tundra (that and the rear window roll down). When your a property manager in a city, turning radius is important

  • @311hitwall

    @311hitwall

    2 жыл бұрын

    Except for the Camry everything they make has an ugly front. Too many Japanese making the decisions on styling. They want the front to look like Japanese Anime.

  • @justacinnamonbun8658

    @justacinnamonbun8658

    2 жыл бұрын

    We just came out of a pandemic and parts are still in short supply, so are decent engineers worth their weight in gold. Everyone should stop buying anything, car or truck, until these issues can be resolved and things come back to normal, if you go to a supermarket you notice how crappy everything is being packaged? I've seen cereal boxes with the cardboard tabs glued on crooked, not by a little bit, and on a number of kinds of packaging. There's a rush to put out products in the face of high demand and low workers, car manufacturers are no different, all businesses have to make a profit, if they can't put out product they'll have to shut down.

  • @markohara3645
    @markohara36452 жыл бұрын

    I've gone form a second gen '19 to the '22 and I agree with a couple of the negatives, especially the loss of 1.5" of the rear seat leg room. What easily carried 4 adult males (or 3 good size kids in the back) is now very cramped for 4 adult males (or at least the two suckers in the back). The other issue is the lack of the step into the bed. Yes, even though I would use my rims/tires, it was nice to have that step. I guess I'll have to dole out a few hundred more for the power step. That should have been standard. Haven't noticed the steering radius being an issue, nor the sluggishness (I don't think it exists if you run 87 or better). The load it can cary has gone up by 200+#'s, so you should correct that error in the video. It also tows more. The bed is smaller, but I doubt I'll notice the difference. The only time I would have an issue is with the height. There were a couple times I was right at the top with a bulky item when I had the Gator Trax closed, but I went with a folding tonneau this time. There are a lot of positives though and overall I find it a better overall truck. Is it worth the $$? Probably not, but my '19 was totaled by a tree and I needed a new truck. Didn't even consider the others same in class. I've had a few Toyota trucks over the years and never had a problem. Worst issue was a vibration from my windshield when doing over 75 mph in my '07 Tacoma.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate the response and hope it continues to serve you well. Payload has gone up on the spec sheet, but not as much on the door stickers that I've seen. Most of the payload change is directly attributable to decreased fuel tank size.

  • @Vox-Populi
    @Vox-Populi2 жыл бұрын

    This is the "New Coke" of trucks, for any of you that were around when that took place. Coca-Cola changed the formula back due to CONSUMER Feedback (good for them BTW).

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great Analogy. I hope that means Toyota has plans to bring back the 5.7 in 10 months....do like a 3.92 10 speed with a hybridization.

  • @refineme

    @refineme

    2 жыл бұрын

    The tundra is probably what it is for its customer base, a commuter truck. I used to have a 2014 limited and never once had to use 4lo ever, needed a locking rear diff, crawl mode, front tow hooks, max out towing or payload. It just got me to the office 5 days a week and tow a boat on some weekends, haul some construction materials from Menards, etc. We traded it for a new 2016 Sequoia platinum as we added another baby to our family. So I drove a Honda Accord to work. There’s a part of me that still misses my truck so I’ve been intrigued by what people are seeing in the third gen. and we’ll see, might spring for the new tundra after a test drive, and if it’s not a good fit, I’ll likely get a sport sedan like a Lexus IS500 to daily.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@refineme if it suits your needs that is fine, doesn't make it more capable,

  • @refineme

    @refineme

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 right, it’s definitely not as capable if you’re doing weekend rock crawling, off roading, towing skid loaders and farm equipment around, etc. I’d go HD and diesel for towing. Guys are now reporting huge wastegate problems with the turbos in the new tundras that require the cab be removed just to fix it. Dangers of buying first production run. I personally dislike the idea of putting a Turbo gas in a truck, I really like a dependable V8 and wish they kept it as an option, with an 8 or 10 speed and get rid of the 4:30 gears, total overkill for a commuter truck that hurts gas mileage. Here’s a video just posted regarding the wastegate issues. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qXdps69-qKy2fqw.html

  • @Bigfish1day

    @Bigfish1day

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I was around for that one

  • @kevinscott6393
    @kevinscott63932 жыл бұрын

    Glad I decided not to wait and went ahead with a " late in the year 2021" Tundra build. Maybe after ALL the bugs worked out (few years) I'd consider, but am happy with my 2021 limited TRD Offroad Package 4x4.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wish I could have gotten TRD offroad on the Platinum

  • @patriotone755
    @patriotone7552 жыл бұрын

    All good points. We were looking at the new 22 Tundra but were disappointed with the payload capacity. We had owned (3) previous model year tundras and really liked the size and relatability. We bumped up to a 1 ton diesel for a tow vehicle and do not have to be concerned about cargo capacity. You made solid points on what Toyota did to cheapen the build on new Tundra. The engineers had (5) years to get it right and sadly missed it by a long country mile. Wishing it was different, but we said good bye to Toyota.

  • @theoutdoordad7395

    @theoutdoordad7395

    9 ай бұрын

    if you want disappointment in payload capacity look at a Gen2 tundra!

  • @Pickuptrucktalk
    @Pickuptrucktalk2 жыл бұрын

    87 Octane per the owner’s manual page 547 btw. Most people have this mistaken belief turbo engines require premium fuel. Ford EcoBoost engines get the same comments. I’ve owned both and the 2022 is better than the 5.7L off the line. It doesn’t sound like it is which I think it causing the confusion. The bed size is an interesting thought. I’ll have to do a direct comparison with a tape measure.

  • @SSMedic

    @SSMedic

    2 жыл бұрын

    And Tim, if you add the added functionality that the new Tundra has in the bed, (Multiple cutouts for 2x6, Bed Lighing, Composite material, 400 watt plug) I still think that it is a much better bed and offers more utility than the previous generation. I don't like the decrease in space/size but I'll get over it I think.

  • @Pickuptrucktalk

    @Pickuptrucktalk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SSMedic certainly it is a more useful bed than the prior gen. It does slope which I only started to notice after people started talking about it. Interestingly, I found I liked the slope after a recent snow fall. It kept the snow from building up in the corners and is helping it melt faster.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tim thanks for the update, and I respect your input. But 87 being ok and achieving the highest advertised HP and torque numbers are two different things. That inconsistency is bothersome. Until someone dynos it, we won't really know.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pickuptrucktalk And Tim to save you some time in the cold Nebraska winter, Toyota list the 2nd gen crewmax bed as 66.7"L x66.4" W and I just measured my depth at 23.75" with the spray in liner. Toyota lists the 2022 shortbed crewmax at 65.6"lx 58.7'W x 20.9"H

  • @Pickuptrucktalk

    @Pickuptrucktalk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 "But 87 being ok and achieving the highest advertised HP and torque numbers are two different things." I don't think these are different things. Whatever the manufacturer of any brand publishes HP and torque numbers, they base that on the recommended fuel used. For example, Nissan has best in class HP and torque WITH premium fuel and they denote that. The email you got was interesting for sure.

  • @timsawatzky7738
    @timsawatzky77382 жыл бұрын

    Have had the 2022 tundra trd off road crew max for 1 week now. It’s the best truck I have owned and best Toyota vehicle to date. I have had multiple Tacoma’s, 2016 tundra, 2020 4runner. Just wait until you test drive one! I am blown away.

  • @brianjensen7134

    @brianjensen7134

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's only been out a month and lots of haters which is expected. No one mentions the Silverado being the number 1 least reliable truck for 2021.

  • @anngrotjohn3696

    @anngrotjohn3696

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have had my 2022 Tundra Limited crew max for 3 weeks and I love it too! Traded in my 2020 Ford F150. The order wait time was totally worth it, this '22 Tundra is by far the best one (for me).

  • @danielmeador1991

    @danielmeador1991

    2 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kato2531
    @kato25312 жыл бұрын

    The biggest concern I have with the 2cd gen tundra is it’s fuel consumption. it seems like the new tundra geared more towards leisure driving than a working truck.

  • @fsb_-bf3th

    @fsb_-bf3th

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you want a working truck get a ford. Toyota had the luxury of not developing anything new for reliability. The moment they try something new, well. Its just ugly and sucks and seems like the enlarged some corolla/camry features for a truck interior

  • @zzanatos2001

    @zzanatos2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fsb_-bf3th I'm a Toyota guy, but my next door neighbor just got a new F-250 Tremor, and it's amazing.

  • @fsb_-bf3th

    @fsb_-bf3th

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zzanatos2001 yup, they might not be super reliable like toyotas are but there's also a reason why Toyota doesn't have the payload or towing numbers to compare

  • @wayned3137

    @wayned3137

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fsb_-bf3th that’s funny.

  • @fsb_-bf3th

    @fsb_-bf3th

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wayned3137 it sure is. Where's the Toyota 2500 or 250? Wait?.... LOL OR what happened to the T150?! Wait, copied ford again there! The tundra has copied fords with interior and exterior since the early 2000's. The only one that hasn't is the 08-13. Then they copied the interior after that. Toyota can't even design a v6 that can be worked on with the cab of the truck on still. This new gen needs the cab taken off to do work. They can't compete. The only time I see tundra on the job site is when helpers start and they end up needing to upgrade to a real truck

  • @Bosha92
    @Bosha922 жыл бұрын

    I agree and this is why i ordered a 2022 TRX. To be fair to Toyota the thing about regular fuel was indeed a misprint. I don’t think that should count as a knock.

  • @stevenlefebvre2991

    @stevenlefebvre2991

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m so happy for you that TRX is going to be one beautiful truck. That is my dream truck also.

  • @gringoreno

    @gringoreno

    2 жыл бұрын

    My gen 1 has 225,000. And has been on most back roads of Death Valley and never had an issue also haul firewood in the mountains of sierra Nevada mts use about 3/4 at oil every 4,000 miles

  • @stevenlefebvre2991

    @stevenlefebvre2991

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@gringoreno sounds like you have a fantastic truck. Keep it until the wheels fall off.

  • @kain9407

    @kain9407

    10 ай бұрын

    The guy is obviously sour on the Tundras which is fine but he takes that bias and latches on to anything negative he can. So he goes into nonsense speculation a out the fuel with nothing to back it up.

  • @mittiejackson3427
    @mittiejackson34272 жыл бұрын

    I have a 1993 Toyota still rolling, I been investing my money all my life not wasting it on cars and trucks and now I don't have to work to buy junk like this or have to ask anyone or anybody for the time of day. Fishing every day.

  • @proto7688
    @proto76882 жыл бұрын

    Also don't forget this new model has SUBSCRIPTION ONLY REMOTE START! Thats right, monthly payments for life.

  • @jimbotag7236

    @jimbotag7236

    2 жыл бұрын

    Subscription only HEATED SEATS ALSO!

  • @marty5300
    @marty53002 жыл бұрын

    what headunit do you have in your 2018? I can't tell what it is. I have a pioneer 7" in the dash, but I've been looking at the bigger screens from alpine and pioneer

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is an Alpine Halo9

  • @marty5300

    @marty5300

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 thanks!

  • @alanmccaulley7847
    @alanmccaulley78472 жыл бұрын

    Went from a 2020 SR5 Crew to a 2022 SR5 Crew 2 weeks ago. It's definitely a little tighter on the inside, doesn't feel small though for a 6'4 guy, but the 2020 interior was massive. You're right on the turn radius, I had a new gen Camry before the 2020 and that felt and was more annoying turn radius wise than the 20 Tundra was, the 22 is not as good, but wouldn't say day to day I've felt a huge difference. Overall I love the 22, the look is awesome, there of course are those little things that aren't the same, but the v6 is much more enjoyable than the v8 was, with all respect to the v8, it's an incredible engine, but it guzzles fuel and doesn't have that kick the v6 does.

  • @dougreed736

    @dougreed736

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just ordered an sr5 crew offroad. I'm super excited. The fuel mileage will be a real relief considering the cost of fuel now.

  • @glenarseneau4796

    @glenarseneau4796

    2 жыл бұрын

    Finally a guy that actually has had both vs a guy that just took it out for a quick ride and look around

  • @alanmccaulley7847

    @alanmccaulley7847

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@glenarseneau4796 6 months in and I still stand by it! Love the 22, gas mileage has been awesome, getting 19-21 depending how much highway driving I do. It's an awesome truck

  • @glenarseneau4796

    @glenarseneau4796

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@alanmccaulley7847 I totally agree I love mine as well

  • @chrisgonzalez6377
    @chrisgonzalez63772 жыл бұрын

    Makes me appreciate my first gen way more now

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Love the first gen. Been such a great truck,

  • @JayTdub13

    @JayTdub13

    2 жыл бұрын

    First gen is best gen IMO. Love them so much.

  • @chadj.w.anderson5473
    @chadj.w.anderson54732 жыл бұрын

    Wow. Lots of great FACTUAL information on differences between the 22 and 21 Tundras. Thanks! Stocking with my 2020 SR5 4x4 for now.

  • @darekgajda248

    @darekgajda248

    Жыл бұрын

    Just bought a 2020 SR5 instead of a 2022 and don't regret a thing.

  • @benjones8977
    @benjones89772 жыл бұрын

    Interesting insights! One thing I did for my Tacoma 2019 was install the back bed pedal so I could get in the bed much easier. I’m surprised they didn’t just build in a step for people? Other pickup makers about done this.

  • @mikeb6386
    @mikeb63862 жыл бұрын

    I don't like that the tailpipe comes out the drivers side and they use fake engine noise piped in. The fender flares don't even cover the wheel wells and does not provide good protection. They don't look right to me. The front and back bumpers are made from molded plastic like cars and the least tiny bump will destroy them. This truck I feel is more car like and is made for people who don't really use a truck much as a truck. Just some of my thoughts I was hoping for better. This truck lies between the Honda pickup and the current Tundra.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    That is an excellent comment with great points. I can't disagree thank you for contributing.

  • @joebrito2066
    @joebrito20662 жыл бұрын

    All those issues that you mentioned are getting fixed now and added on the 2023. I wish Toyota would have kept that as an option 5.7, or at least the 5.0 form the Lexus. Add that Hybrid system to improve the fuel economy. if I’m 6’4 and can seat behind me on the 2020 Extended cab, I tried the same on the 2022 and I couldn’t. I feel that Toyota did that on purpose to get people buy the Crew cab. That rear bumper is going to change quickly, they are getting a lot of negative feedback, make the less resistant to small accidents. In the old Tundra the bumper was modular.

  • @nevercedes2070
    @nevercedes20702 жыл бұрын

    Love the things you covered. Turning radius is a big one and the tow hooks up front. Looks like you should just keep your truck.. everyone else is willing to compromise, mostly due to the fact Tundras in recent years were sold more as a "daily driver truck" as opposed to for actual utilization. The worst thing Toyota is doing is their stupid subscription for different features in the infotainment, like Remote start and navigation. huge disappointment. PS yes you can tune the ECU to be better compatible to different Fuels.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the info. Wastegate issues still make me wonder

  • @leeredpath8332
    @leeredpath83322 жыл бұрын

    excellent information!! .. glad i saw this!.. i love my 2010 , very sad to see this, i was going to buy a new one . After seeing these steps backwards, with what I would consider very big design flaws, I've absolutely changed my mind!! Why in gods name did they do such a shit job in it's redesign!! Mine has been an absolute JOY to own, with rock solid reliability! haven't even needed to replace a bulb , still using the original serpentine belt! 125,000 miles. Breaks my heart... guess I'm just gonna keep mine and drive it till the wheels fall off!

  • @user-ff5yy6ci2u
    @user-ff5yy6ci2u2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your informative video. really hit the points

  • @MYDOGOG
    @MYDOGOG2 жыл бұрын

    I’ll be keeping my 21 TRD Pro lunar rock tundra over this

  • @bobhartman9970
    @bobhartman99702 жыл бұрын

    Was seriously considering the new Tundra, but had some growing suspicions and observations about it's operations and backward changes. Thanks for the video. Will look elsewhere. Hopefully they can address those issues, cause I really do like Toyota.

  • @fongvang935

    @fongvang935

    2 жыл бұрын

    Most of the issues he showed will be difficult to address without a complete redesign. The rear bumper issue is probably the easiest to address, and that will probably take a refresh (2-3 yrs) if even. I'm not sure about the tow hooks or lack thereof since the air dam is in the way.

  • @zzanatos2001

    @zzanatos2001

    2 жыл бұрын

    I never buy brand-new designs because you are guaranteed to have to deal with some little defects and recalls. But if you have to get a 2022, I would recommend waiting for a bit and getting the TRD Pro Hybrid.

  • @gregkeller80

    @gregkeller80

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s gonna be even more fd up

  • @zukifan26

    @zukifan26

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@zzanatos2001 WHY? How is the Pro Hybrid going to solve anything this reviewer claims as a downside?

  • @petshopboyspartnership
    @petshopboyspartnership Жыл бұрын

    You're review was 100% honest and helped me make up my mind.. Great vid

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Appreciate it thank you. I thought it was honest as well. A lot ofToyota fan boys took issue with it.

  • @Grovalife
    @Grovalife2 жыл бұрын

    Solid points. Had the opportunity to test drive a 22 Tundra last week, besides cabin interior improvements and MPG, it seemed like a step back as far as utility. Ended up with a 🐏

  • @joseperezpaz9986

    @joseperezpaz9986

    2 жыл бұрын

    Rams are known for electrical issues & bad transmissions

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had godd experience with one of the very first 2012 Ram Limiteds. Kept in for 6 years and 130k miles. No real mechanical issues. Had perpetual brake squeek, and a leaky sunroof in heavy rains that drove me nuts. But drove great when I traded it in on the Tundra in 2018. Really had a little buyer's remorse on the way home, missed the Ram for a few days, but really appreciated the Tundra after a while.

  • @thegreatempire3882

    @thegreatempire3882

    2 жыл бұрын

    All I can say is good luck. I'm not going to buy another Ram anytime soon. 2017 Ram 1500 Sport: 4 transmission repairs 3 manifold blow outs, yes the 5th gen still has that going on. I'm also waiting for the Cam roller failure the 5.7L suffered from. 2 backup cameras 1 driverside mirror 1 front passenger window motor 1 map light, they had to replace the whole part, not just the bulb. 1 RF hub 2013 Ram 1500 Laramie: Air ride leaks, I would never recommend an airride suspension in a Ram Truck. 4 air compressors for the air ride 1 new engine due to roller failure 2 Transmission repairs 1 Passenger side mirror 2 RF Hub 1 Coil pack failure over cylinder 7 on the brand new engine at 52,000 mi, that was a fun drive to the dealership. That's why I'm buying a Ford with the 2.7L

  • @365handle

    @365handle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yep, some of you guys be expecting a rocket ship instead of a pickup truck so we can understand your feelings.

  • @jacobstrutner8232

    @jacobstrutner8232

    2 жыл бұрын

    New tundra cabs are also much smaller

  • @triggerhappyreviews
    @triggerhappyreviews2 жыл бұрын

    I've made my fair share of videos on the issues with this truck. I agree with you 100%. I don't care what anyone says, the cabin is way smaller. People want to argue about it based on numbers, but go sit in the back seat. It lost a ton of room.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate it. You've got the best owner review that I've seen.

  • @triggerhappyreviews

    @triggerhappyreviews

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 thanks man. It’s a nice truck but it definitely didn’t live up to the hype.

  • @michaelevans691
    @michaelevans6912 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree! Bottom line - This new Tundra is a major step backwards.

  • @cstgx

    @cstgx

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. Having owned Tundras for the last 12 years, their business was mine to lose, and they have. No easy way to get in the bed, and I don't mean a tailgate, just bumper steps would be fine. No tow hooks, smaller cab, worse turning radius. They missed so many simple things. Toyota was always top of my list. They are now below GM and Ford. I hope they fix this. If someone from Toyota sees this, people don't care about gimmicky front spoilers that drop down, and a button in the tailight for the bed. Look at the GMC AT4, and build that truck with your quality. It sis functional, has steps in the bumper, much wider bed, tow hooks, great factory tires, factory lift. Only complaint is the fuel tank is 24 gallons. It should be 30 or 32.

  • @georgiafan6618

    @georgiafan6618

    2 жыл бұрын

    Owned three reliable tundras since ‘07. The fact that you have to remove the cab in the ‘22 to service something in the engine is disconcerting. All the gear in the engine bay is packed in there with little room to spare w/videos pointing this out. However, the truck ks amazing via testimony trickling in from owners. *Ford eco boost was an abysmal failure early on with mechanics concurring their dumpsters were full of failed engine blocks. Toyota’s TTV6 will be better.

  • @zztuber6164
    @zztuber61642 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the heads up. a game changer for sure. i own a 2011 and was considering buying a 22... ill check out the GMC for sure

  • @Loochh

    @Loochh

    2 жыл бұрын

    You won’t be disappointed with the GMC. They have really stepped it up and are luxurious and spacious and way more capable.

  • @tomsawtelle1280
    @tomsawtelle12802 жыл бұрын

    What radio do you have in your Platinum?

  • @THeSPARTEnMORTER21
    @THeSPARTEnMORTER212 жыл бұрын

    1 - bed depth got smaller 2 - cab got slightly smaller 3 - no bumper space to get into bed 4 - bigger turning radius 5 - smaller rear axle 6 - storage under back seat 7 - best performance comes with 91octane or higher.

  • @UAkovalchuk

    @UAkovalchuk

    2 жыл бұрын

    +no V8 option !!

  • @365handle

    @365handle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd say Toyota did a dam good job as long as it still carry the same QDR and resale value, more capability and better ride quality, some of us won't complain.

  • @thedesertdwellerfromutah4354

    @thedesertdwellerfromutah4354

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@365handle Doesn't take much to impress you does it. You're the exact type of person Toyota had in mind to buy this junk when they went and ruined it

  • @jacobstrutner8232

    @jacobstrutner8232

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@365handle Muh rEsAlE vAlUe and ReLiAbIlItY. Toyotas not that great and you sheep who are brand loyal cause these problems. It's worse in class truck and just copied main features of the big 3 to try and compete while leaving behind everything the tundra was.

  • @danielmeador1991

    @danielmeador1991

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobstrutner8232 there resale value is high because they feel sorry that people got suckered into buying the pile of junk

  • @thorsmith9545
    @thorsmith95452 жыл бұрын

    So glad I picked up a 21 this last November. It's sad to see Toyota go this direction. Hang on to them 5.7L boys...

  • @panicswitcharmy3754

    @panicswitcharmy3754

    2 жыл бұрын

    My 15 trd ain't going anywhere

  • @macariosaldana180

    @macariosaldana180

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here. I was thinking about trading in but the saying is more electronics, more problems

  • @panicswitcharmy3754

    @panicswitcharmy3754

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@macariosaldana180 facts

  • @UAkovalchuk

    @UAkovalchuk

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@panicswitcharmy3754 I got the same truck !! Love it..how much miles u got on urs so far?

  • @panicswitcharmy3754

    @panicswitcharmy3754

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@UAkovalchuk mines still a baby. I have 132000 kms. So like 90000 miles?

  • @SM-og9pt
    @SM-og9pt2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this information which is a real eye opener.

  • @dimasvazquez7609
    @dimasvazquez7609 Жыл бұрын

    Am a garage door technician and all my trucks have a rack! Would a tundra sr 2022 Would be a good option for me is they don't have leaf springs ?

  • @jayr9810
    @jayr98102 жыл бұрын

    The integrated rear bumper to rear quarter panel looks to be a delicate and expensive repair on any small bump in the rear

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    LOL. Delicate is never a word you want used to describe your truck.

  • @firemedic5170
    @firemedic51702 жыл бұрын

    Bro, you are doing the lord’s work right now. Thank you for this 🙌🏻 I’ll be sticking with my 2018 T4R TRD OR

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just having fun my friend.

  • @firemedic5170

    @firemedic5170

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kedrevs4037 you’re really bringing some serious considerations to light for us- thank you for that. Many reviewers are only showing the new tech etc but a solid comparison, like yours, is needed and very appreciated

  • @norwoodlk2002
    @norwoodlk20022 жыл бұрын

    I've never had a problem turning into tight spots with mine again nitpicking or not knowing how to drive a truck

  • @randallzook5570
    @randallzook55702 жыл бұрын

    The 2022 Toyota Tundra CrewMax comes with 41.6 inches of rear seat leg room compared with 42.3 inches in 2021. Only .7 inches decrease here. Front leg room on the other hand decreased by from 42.5 inches in 2021 to 41.2 inches in 2022. For me and my below 6' family this means nothing but you are correct Toyota slightly shrank the 2022. Just ordered the Platinum last week. I have a 21 Silverado High Country with the pretty chrome front tow hooks...never used them so again that Toyota deletion does not make of break the deal for me. I'm more concerned that I may be disappointed in going from the 6.2 Chevy to the V6? Great video I wish I would have watched it before ordering mine. If I'm not happy with it I'll unload it while the used car prices are through the roof.

  • @Iwasm9009
    @Iwasm90092 жыл бұрын

    I think I'll keep my gen 1's. Simple, reliable workhorses.

  • @davidrobinson4486

    @davidrobinson4486

    2 жыл бұрын

    They were the best Tundra they made.

  • @MrBobsson98

    @MrBobsson98

    Жыл бұрын

    I've had 3 1st gens. Get one with a good frame; do regular maintenance and they last forever.

  • @savchuktaras
    @savchuktaras2 жыл бұрын

    I just rented a 22 tundra sr5 when I was traveling. Pretty decent truck. It felt like a bigger Tacoma. The no steps into the bed was pretty annoying. That one is a head scratcher for me. How do you design a truck without something like that. Amazing how that passed the design stage.

  • @Captain_Kdawg
    @Captain_Kdawg Жыл бұрын

    Man glad you call out the negatives most people don’t they just highlight the positives!

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, listen to the main reviews and you’d think “ how could this truck fail?” Funny thing is I made this video and most others on this truck before we knew about the turbo wastegate, the poor qulity control issues, etc. This was just based on specs

  • @mojavedesertsonorandesert9531
    @mojavedesertsonorandesert95312 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the detailed explanations. I am disappointed with all new trucks, harder to work on, a lot more delicate. They all look nice but I'm content with my 30 year plus Toyota truck. Recently re-did the motor and hopefully get at least 20 years ..

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    50 year truck would be damn impressive

  • @imarayrojas7504
    @imarayrojas75042 жыл бұрын

    The legendary 5.7 v8 that could be taken pass 500k easily has been replaced with an v6 twin turbo that was first manufactured in 2017 what a shame

  • @danielmeador1991

    @danielmeador1991

    2 жыл бұрын

    And the TTv6 is a mechanics worst nightmare they burn oil at 50k-60k

  • @Fishingrunner
    @Fishingrunner2 жыл бұрын

    The 2022 Tundra is Hideous. Not one thing I like about that truck. Last gen was such a sharp truck.

  • @russellcrawford4809
    @russellcrawford4809 Жыл бұрын

    Was planning on purchasing a Tundra this May. After looking at all the changes in 22 , if I do buy I'll be looking into a pre-owned 21 model. A couple changes I can live with but twin turbos, 3 radiators , new Trans, on and on. Will be interesting to see which new components will last and which ones flop

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @paulmoss7940
    @paulmoss79402 жыл бұрын

    #8 NO transmission cooler #9 NO V8 #10 Subscriptions Good video . I'll keep my near mint lo mile 2012.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would too.

  • @NorthweSteelheadJunkies
    @NorthweSteelheadJunkies2 жыл бұрын

    All these KZread Channel reviews fail to mention Toyota has merged Lancruser/ Tundra platforms. Toyota isn't trying to be like the big 3 American companies thank God. Toyota is the only manufacture that modestly rates payload/towing.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have mentioned TNGA-F several times as have others. It is not a good thing if you want a truck, it is if you want an SUV with Truck skin.

  • @NorthweSteelheadJunkies

    @NorthweSteelheadJunkies

    2 жыл бұрын

    Perhaps you haven't realized the average Tundra consumer wants a truck with all the amenities of an SUV... For those of us that are Landcruiser enthusiasts though... 🔥

  • @brianjensen7134

    @brianjensen7134

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tow ratings are recommendations, In 2007 when the Tundra came out with its tow ratings a certain manufacturer 3 months later revamped theirs to make it better than the Tundra without changing anything mechanically on their truck.In 2011 Toyota started to follow the J2807 Towing rating scale which the big 3 wrote. The funny thing is the big 3 didnt start following the J2807 ratings until 2018 .Manufacturers can set their tow ratings to whatever they want.The Tundra could easily tow 12,000lbs or more on their previous generation Tundra. The only thing that kept them doing that was a 5 bolt hub pattern.

  • @k.c.marshall921

    @k.c.marshall921

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Manufacturer".

  • @dlg5485
    @dlg54852 жыл бұрын

    I was really looking forward to this redesign, but the Tundra has come off my shopping list. You actually missed one of the biggest missteps which is Toyota's move to subscription based connected services. This means you have to pay a fee to be able to use remote start and a bunch of other features of the truck. I think Toyota has lost me for good. I will give the refreshed 2022 Chevy Silverado 3.0 diesel a close look. It's the only full size truck I would consider buying at this point because of its excellent capability and fuel economy.

  • @365handle

    @365handle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good luck!

  • @michaelgriffith2762

    @michaelgriffith2762

    2 жыл бұрын

    You do know you can get an aftermarket remote start that works WAY better than the OEM key fob, right? For not much money either…

  • @dlg5485

    @dlg5485

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelgriffith2762 I could give a sh*t about the remote start, really. That's not the big issue with the new Tundra....there are many. The 'connected services' infotainment is nothing more than glorified spyware. The truck doesn't even have tow hooks. Thanks to the stupid rear bumper design, there is no integrated step to access the bed when tailgate is down...you have to buy a $500 accessory step. You can't special order a Tundra (or any Toyota) the way you want it, your only option is to buy a dealer spec truck with a bunch of overpriced accessories... and the list goes on and on. Fck Toyota. I'm done with them.

  • @michaelgriffith2762

    @michaelgriffith2762

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dlg5485 interesting. My dealer told me I can build a new tundra and they’d order it to my spec. It been a few weeks so maybe something has changed?

  • @dlg5485

    @dlg5485

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelgriffith2762 The dealer can choose to use one of their allocations to order your desired spec, but they don't have to and most of them won't...unless you add some accessories to sweeten the deal for them. In my experience, Toyota and their dealers are the absolute worst to deal with. I have special ordered over a dozen vehicles over the years from various brands exactly the way I wanted them with a small deposit and no questions asked, but Toyota simply doesn't operate that way.

  • @9663mu
    @9663mu2 жыл бұрын

    Liked the video mate. Any chance you tape measure the bed vs the older Tundra ? I know mentioned it’s smaller but would be nice to see actual real measurements

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    thank you for watching

  • @joshp6024
    @joshp6024 Жыл бұрын

    I rented a 2022 Trd pro, and they come off the lot here around 94k. It was a disappointment, biggest safety issue with me was the horrible throttle response truck barely moved when I pressed the gas merging into traffic it was scary. Push to start sucks and takes an extra 10 seconds for no reason could just turn a key. Auto high beams half the time don’t work and blind everyone at night, lane assist pushes you into the other lane over correction, and the steering radius is embarrassing… and I had two tundras before and loved them..

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Haven't been in a pro yet, but that sounds terrible.

  • @julesalaude458
    @julesalaude4582 жыл бұрын

    I sold my 2018 GMC Sierra for more money than I payed for it. I think Toyota just about nailed it. I’ve heard about all the down gradings, but that won’t make me change my mind at all on purchasing the Tundra.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    If it suits your needs...

  • @johnrambo4082

    @johnrambo4082

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree with Jules. I'm getting one too. 1794 4x4

  • @jacobstrutner8232

    @jacobstrutner8232

    2 жыл бұрын

    Brainwashed sheep to the slaughter

  • @johnrambo4082

    @johnrambo4082

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobstrutner8232 that's what you think bubba

  • @danielmeador1991

    @danielmeador1991

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnrambo4082 just wait till the engine fails and fail it will

  • @cstgx
    @cstgx2 жыл бұрын

    Bought 5 new Tundras and drove Tundras for over a decade. I bought an AT4 Sierra with the 6.2 in late 2020 because Toyota pushed back the refresh again. This new model is a huge disappointment. The big screen is trying to distract from the shortcomings. You are better off buying a Ford EcoBoost if you want the 3.5 TT.

  • @kentapley9315

    @kentapley9315

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @edgarmartinez1512

    @edgarmartinez1512

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2021 pro, do you like better your AT4 Sierra then the Tundra?

  • @cstgx

    @cstgx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edgarmartinez1512 I do. I do not think it will be as reliable as a 2021 and earlier Tundra, but it has far more power, gets better mileage, and is nicer inside.

  • @Maverick7538

    @Maverick7538

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cstgx Right there with you. The GMC is so much nicer. I get an extended warranty on everything so I'm not worried. Love the GMC. I feel like I'm no longer stuck in the 80s.

  • @cessealbeach
    @cessealbeach2 жыл бұрын

    I know someone at work who bought one of these , not seen him driving lately, Yes the Dealership is waiting for Parts to Change both Turbos, they gave him a 2018 Camry Loaner vehicle, The Truck Lost power on the way to Lake Tahoe, Not a Happy Camper, He is thinking about Lemon Law now

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    ouch

  • @lelandfranklin3487
    @lelandfranklin34872 жыл бұрын

    Had a '00 4Runner. Hated the new style, but after several changes it looks good now. Same with Tundra. Hate the new style, but it will improve as they adjust it....hopefully.

  • @davidwilson2233
    @davidwilson22332 жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable that there is no step into the bed of the truck.

  • @birchwhitehd
    @birchwhitehd2 жыл бұрын

    Under powered V6 engine, that needs twin turbos to get enough power….. a lot of buyers will have trouble with their lack of religious oil changes…re: turbo killer

  • @mark98070
    @mark980702 жыл бұрын

    Well at least you can get the long bed in a crewcab configuration. To me that's a big plus.

  • @COMMANDERFOX31
    @COMMANDERFOX312 жыл бұрын

    My dad is looking for a second truck for his company. His 2020 Tundra has been flawless so far. But this 2022 looks like a disappointment from all directions. Will be looking at a Nissan Titan or a diesel/hemi-V8 Ram 1500 instead. Thank you for the video.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching

  • @kentapley9315
    @kentapley93152 жыл бұрын

    Toyota flopped with this truck. Co worker bought one and he is very unhappy, mostly with the transmission shifting terrible. Dealer said their was nothing they could do. And the rear window leaks. He is going to try to trade it on a Chevy or Ford.

  • @argontheguardian0621
    @argontheguardian06212 жыл бұрын

    If I had a car company, my trucks would come with the slogan: "To serve purpose". And that is to be a truck, not a pavement princess.

  • @alpine9996

    @alpine9996

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unless you can only have 1 vehicle and you want it to be both like the RAM 1500 is

  • @cristianstriblea792
    @cristianstriblea7922 жыл бұрын

    I have a Toyota Tundra 2022 and I am happy with my truck .much better quality than Ram 1500 Ram 1500 was my worst experience in having a truck in the past

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hope it continues to serve you well.

  • @michaelbosisto6259
    @michaelbosisto62592 жыл бұрын

    My 2018 Tundra is boring, but it hasn’t had one single issue at all in 40,000 miles, not one. I actually complain that it need a tail gator step like that of a ford, so this 2022 will totally suck for me. I’m a hunting outfitter so you can just imagine how often I have to get into and out of the bed, I can’t just jump out with these old rebuilt knees. I did buy a slider, it helped a lot, but it did cut down on the amount of cargo I can take. Even my 2018 step bumper is far too dangerous when wet and forget about it if it’s icy. I feel they missed the mark.

  • @ronsteitz4535
    @ronsteitz45352 жыл бұрын

    On the turning radius my 2016 Limited is way better than my 2005 Tundra Limited . Why would Toyota make it worse is hard to figure out.🤔

  • @beowulfgrendel24
    @beowulfgrendel242 жыл бұрын

    Seen my first one the other day and first impression was not good. Everything just feels and looks cheap. The shifter itself moves around like a manual, panels around the truck at loose. Ride quality even with coils isn’t on par with ram (haven’t been able to drive a 4x4 with bilstein yet

  • @angeltrujillo4670
    @angeltrujillo46702 жыл бұрын

    was planning to buy the new Toyota tundra, but I just traded for a gmc sierra denali 6.2 now I'm getting more mpg and definitely feel the extra power of the 6.2 10 spd.

  • @cwqrpportable

    @cwqrpportable

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gorgeous truck! Congrats........

  • @Loochh

    @Loochh

    2 жыл бұрын

    Solid truck!!! 👍🏽👍🏽

  • @maxmartz4665
    @maxmartz4665 Жыл бұрын

    2012 TRD OR sold and 2021 Pro entered our family last year. Rides great. Tows 6k enclosed sled trailer over hill and dale. Plenty of room for 4 and a retriever. Love the V8 w TRD dual exhaust.

  • @kedrevs4037

    @kedrevs4037

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep, hope Toyota gets it.