I love how everyone is angry that their favorite brand didnt win, like it's all subjective. Calm down kiddos

@mixalis6168

3 жыл бұрын

considering the first vid had a completely different vid to this current vid, hahahahahahah

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

Not me.... I don't care. I ride a KTM but couldn't care less what wins. The only thing that matters is do YOU like the bike you ride. If so you are on the best bike.

@450brucey2

3 жыл бұрын

No thats not the bad part they act like they can ride these bike to their full Potential

I think this format is great, so much of riding is subjective, along with everyone being a different body type which contributes along with riding style and it’s hard to quantify it using a specific scoring system. That doesn’t cover the nuances, this does! Great job guys!

Great job boys. Vital is starting to win me over from MXA. Keep it up Ping

Was surprised to hear the more negative feedback for the Husky this time around, as it sounded like the changes were an improvement last time around. I have a 21 FC 350, so the 450 motor stuff doesn't apply to me, but as a shorter rider, I love the bike. I did go up to a stiffer rear shock (and went stiffer on the front PSI to balance it a bit). My favorite bike by far

I just bought a used 2020 kx450f with 5 hours like new and this made me frl even better about it!

I love this way of doing shootouts with actually just talking about he bikes! I have 18 ktm 450 and my son has 19 kawasaki 450...from day one the kawasaki is more comfortable standing up around corners. I'm curious if the newer ktms match that feeling?

I’m red till I’m dead no matter what I will never ride these bikes to their potential anyways so it don’t matter where they land in the test I’m sticking with Honda reliability for me but if I was to switch it would be blu cru for sure And the truth of the matter is all these bikes are so good today because these manufacturers keep pushing one another to be the best so in the end we win because it’s hard to buy a bad one now days 👍👍👍

@rigging1377

2 жыл бұрын

Yamaha is definitely the most reliable, especially after the Honda valve problems.

Kawasaki must've finally sent that check.

@Daveydave521

3 жыл бұрын

KX has won the shootout for 3 consecutive years bruh. Check out dirt rider mag. KXF is a beast

@caseyanderson7600

3 жыл бұрын

You know how the game is played gotta pay to play.

I always love when people say good things about Yamaha.

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

Meaning?

@AWoulds

3 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelpilot ​ @craig loades They said it had too much power, personally I think that's a win LOL. I understand that they said it was hard to control, but power and very long lasting engine's makes me like Yamaha more than I already did. I've owned a lot of Yamaha and never replaced a single piston. Proof, I own/owned: a 08 Raptor 700r just needed a fuel pump rode it yesterday, Raptor 660 idk electric start problems sold it, 07 Raptor 250 2 new starters and carb because the fuel/air mixture screw broke off and got really stuck in the carb, 02 Raptor 80 sold it 13yrs later because nobody knew how to clean a carb, 07 Raptor 50 3 years Too slow sold it, 2000 rebuilt YZ80 used bought in 10 carb clean, new chain, new shift shaft, used 03 Rm65 bought in 13 Chain kept getting lodged into the Generator sold in 18, used 02 CR250r bought in 2021 my current battle Way to rich, JD jetting kit worked bad clutch drag cuz HP Honda 80-85 sucks.

little changes on other bikes that was on top of the other brands but ended up complaining about it that it isnt working right anymore =)

yes I've been waiting

Why only keep it to the big bike makers. I've been looking for a dual use bike. One for warm weather then modded to a snowbike. I'm really leaning towards a Beta 480 /500. Cost is substantially less for a bike that is on par with other bikes.

What a suprise. Husky at bottom and Kawi on top?? And yam in 4th. Wow

Does anyone know who owns state fair MX? It’s been a while since Starwest was shutdown, curious if it’s the previous owners

Yamaha last year won the shootout and now suddenly it became too strong,unpredictable and bad turning bike? WTF vital mx???? What is this??

@jakobnunley9749

3 жыл бұрын

It got a new chassis that’s why

@andreasstefanou5898

3 жыл бұрын

@@jakobnunley9749 Yz450f have no changes for 2021.

@sloan4764

3 жыл бұрын

The other bikes got better, so the yz feels worse, still a good bike

@andreasstefanou5898

3 жыл бұрын

@@sloan4764 you're kidding right? Kawasaki had zero changes and KTM almost nothing. Most test riders can not tell the difference between 2020 models and 2021.

@dr.hugog.hackenbush9443

3 жыл бұрын

"Strong" & "unpredictable" **Laughs in CR500**

I’m a 6’1 220 lb senior A level rider. I felt most at home on the 2020 Yamaha. I’m debating on what bike to buy next. Thanks for the test.

@richreynolds3647

3 жыл бұрын

KTM

@brinkee7674

3 жыл бұрын

Beta and save the few grand for mods

Kawi #1 🤘🤘

@carsonjohnson1845

3 жыл бұрын

no Honda

Can someone please explain how the Yamaha went from 1st in 2020 to 4th in 2021 when no changes were made on really any bike other than the Honda? I ask because im genuinely curious... different riders?

@NickW90

3 жыл бұрын

Kawi and husky got some pretty big changes. Maybe seem small but the changes make a pretty big effect on the bike. And just because a winner had no changes doesn’t mean it should still finish first. That’s not how it works

@HighSpeedTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@NickW90 i wasnt aware that the husky and ktm got changes. They made it sound like the honda got big changes and the kawi got a couple.

@NickW90

3 жыл бұрын

@@HighSpeedTV i said kawi and husky. Ktm i think just got mapping change

@Carlos27thFS

3 жыл бұрын

Because in reality they're so close together in performance.

@moto_tech_braap_itout9852

2 жыл бұрын

Kawasaki better period

Here is why I like the 2019-2021 Kawi. I can not tell you how many times I have saved it with this bike. The front end has this really strange (and good) characteristic, where if you start to lose the front end, it will slide in a very stable manner for what seems like forever (probably actually less than a second) and you can save it. I have had people following me say they were sure I was "going down low side hard" and "how the heck did you save that". I have never ridden another bike that does that.

@ronk6553

3 жыл бұрын

The front end shouldn’t be pushing like that in the first place

@keithpeterson3447

2 жыл бұрын

@@ronk6553 🤣 that was hilarious! 👍 ...& I have a 21 kx450.

Dude the yamaha is unchanged from last year i think the dudes are getting a bit too old for the power it has to offer

@sloan4764

3 жыл бұрын

It’s literally got new everything

@ben-mj8mh

3 жыл бұрын

@@sloan4764 no dude look it up the 450 remains unchanged from last year except for graphics. 250 has got new everything

@zacbabcock4223

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i have a 20 yz450 ...and the 21 is the same as mine...its a great bike !

@Cody2nd

3 жыл бұрын

@@ben-mj8mh no dude, you look it up....the bike had a bunch of changes for 2021. www.yamahamotorsports.com/motocross/models/yz450f

@Cody2nd

3 жыл бұрын

@@zacbabcock4223 no it’s not....have you actually read Yamahas web sight?

The Covid - 5 Shootout

Really wanted to see how that gasgas450 is but maybe next year

@richreynolds3647

3 жыл бұрын

GasGas is a ghost bike, you hear about it, but we'll never really see it. I am very disappointed at the lack of coverage good or bad on GasGas. They deserve to be ripped on at least for not delivering on their promise of September bike deliveries. I have had an MX450 ordered since the dealer could, and it just is silent and no explanation.

@brinkee7674

3 жыл бұрын

or even a Beta or SWM

It all depends on the person riding style there is not one good bike they are all so close to the same in all reality most average riders will not notice a difference , and more experienced riders will get the suspension re done anyways to there weight so pick a colour and shape you like and ride

Could you put the 21 kx450 clutch in a 2020 kx450?

@KJ-ym1qg

3 жыл бұрын

I'm almost positive you can.

Where is the east coast shootout???

Why no number 74?

If you don’t like red then you just have to settle for your favorite color and ride it ‘til the brakes fall off and you will be as fast as any of the other bikes. Facts.

CRF, KTM, HUSQI👍👍

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

You mean Horrible fueling, bad suspension and bad suspension? Yep great times... I'd take the Kawasaki or Yamaha over any of the other for that alone. Plus the Honda ergonomics are tiny. They only suit smaller riders.

I would totally buy a kawasaki,but the muffler on that thing is just an eye sore..

@accusynca

3 жыл бұрын

I just traded my '19 yz450 in for a '21 kx450 and yeah the muffler is HUGE and ugly. At the very least a fmf slip on will be ordered very soon.

@semiprofessional8470

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely replace and tune

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

One word. Yoshimura

@shawntheo1603

3 жыл бұрын

@@accusynca How would you compare the 21 kx to the 2019 YZ now that you have had it a while?

@accusynca

3 жыл бұрын

@@shawntheo1603 both are great. I think the yz pulled harder everywhere but the kx is a bit smoother. The kx starts much faster. The yz took a while to start sometimes and especially when in gear where the kx doesn't hesitate at all.

Suzuki ???

💚💚💚

Finally🔥🔥🔥✊🏻💪🏻👍🏻

When’s the 250 one coming

@sargil100

3 жыл бұрын

When dad is finished with his bike first hun.

@joshsmith9058

3 жыл бұрын

When our kids start riding??

I’m so surprised that the kx won

Does Suzuki expect to sell any bikes this year, apparently they have made no changes from last year and can’t even get one bike to a single shootout. If they haven’t made any new changes then wtf?

Kawi hydraulic clutch isn’t new unless they changed internals. Kawasaki started hydraulic clutch in 19

@richracing7420

3 жыл бұрын

They changed the internals a bit

Sketchy review.

@peaceprayer595

3 жыл бұрын

Always!

I dont like excessive vibration! Where are rubber mounted triple clamps of ole days!? #Husky #Kawasaki

The comments about the Yamaha wanting to stand up in the turns is wrong that's the rider not leaning over enough for the speed he was going David Pingree smiled when he said that i don't believe there's to much power with that bike

@Olsson229

3 жыл бұрын

I had 2020 yzf450 and The first thing i noticed was that it stands in corners.

Lmao why would you post your shootout video then remove it then post it again but with different results.

@NickW90

3 жыл бұрын

Not enough views 😂

@jonesesente7646

3 жыл бұрын

hahhaha....

@mixalis6168

3 жыл бұрын

Ahahahahaha bikes must have changed from a week or so ago, ahaahahahahaahahahahah

@joshsmith9058

3 жыл бұрын

What was the first results? Was it much different?

@ethanlancaster76

3 жыл бұрын

Because they don’t have a clue about what they’re talking about and they lack the integrity to keep it 💯 if you want the real answer to the lame review and wishy washy opinions that are being made up to sound better to the manufactures that grease their wheels and line their pockets 🙄

I am so confused I feel like I've watched this already

@grecoconduris6716

3 жыл бұрын

From there website: *As we have mentioned, the original video had some scoring discrepancies and has been amended to match all the written notes from the testers included in this full test. No grand conspiracy. Someone misspoke or hash marks where tallied for the wrong bikes. An honest mistake that caused some confusion but all of the riding impressions stay the same. No tester suddenly changed their opinion. Next time, we’ll have multiple knuckle-dragging dirt bikers check the score sheet to make sure everything is good to go… Numbers are hard.

Honda advertising: “Honda, we’ll explain”

If the Honda had better suspension that would be the best bike. Change my mind

@kasey446

3 жыл бұрын

Honda also has the ECU issue with it cutting out which lets be honest shouldn't be happening especially with it being fuel injected...Most testers I have seen are saying just stick with the 20 lol

@aidanvelthuis1267

3 жыл бұрын

I think with the education issue worked out and if it had kyb suspension it would be much better

@cadenoesch3045

3 жыл бұрын

@@kasey446 you just have to get it reflashed and it’s all good. Bike feels amazing now

@brinkee7674

3 жыл бұрын

Honda has ECU issues and is a heavier bike. Heavy enough to really make a difference. You would be better served getting a Beta. By doing so you save several thousand $ which can be spent on a trip or mods. It is just a better bike than the Honda

Why include the ktm and the white ktm -_-

Where is the rmz?

@drewobanion3018

Ай бұрын

Who cares Suzuki still hasn’t changed anything since 2018

Where is Suzuki

Pruitt Mountain Adventures - Caledonia, Mo - new MX - Quads RACE Park - Hare Scrambles - Enduro - Moto Cross - Super Cross Tracks coming SOON. - RACE & Training Facility 900 Acres

If the Suzuki is unchanged, then why not include a 2020 Suzuki in the shootout? At least then people would know how it stacks up relative to the competition. Makes no sense at all that you needed to wait to receive a bike with an updated serial number.

@vitalmx

2 жыл бұрын

We had a 2021 model in our 2022 Shootout we published about two months ago.

@jeromejeffrey

2 жыл бұрын

@@vitalmx Ah, my bad! :-)

Joke of a shootout. Come'on man.

The difference between these bikes is negligible. It's a matter of preference

Soooo the KTM and the Husqy have the same engine but the white bike vibrates more? Tf outa here

I love the shootout. But sick of ktm and Husky and soon gas gas. They going to buy Suzuki also?

Where’s the gasgas

Ktm badass

I just bought 2020.5 Husqvarna 450 Rockstar over the 2021 Husqvarna FC or 2021 KTM SX-F, why? Race ready and it's basically the same as the 21. I am glad I did. I almost bought Kawasaki KX 450 but didn't because of the Aluminum frame and Quality. Also Husqvarna has a 30 day Warranty and offers 24 months warranty, on a dirt bike! I bought it.

@willmiller979

3 жыл бұрын

The 2020.5 Rockstar is the same as the 21 fc450 beside all the bling and better graphics. 2020 kx450 is a good as well as the 21 but the Husky is lighter and skinnier. Husky feels like a smaller bike than the KX. One thing I have found is the husky is sometimes kinda hard to get it learned over and stay in the ruts. The FCP mounts will fix this

@motozz8258

3 жыл бұрын

fhartse , they need a warranty to sort out the dodgy build , its true that is why there is a warranty

@fhartse

3 жыл бұрын

@@motozz8258 Ha ha! Ok

@garrett3234

3 жыл бұрын

you didnt buy a bike cause of aluminum frame lmao thats a whack reason but i wouldnt buy a Kawi either. i would get ktm factory or a 2022 honda and wait

Kawasaki 💪

Thank god for KTM. They have been leading the way since the 2012.5 Factory Edition/ Dungey Replica 450. KTM has forced all other brands to up their game. As a result all bikes are amazing these days......... well, except the Suzuki

I thought I already watched this?

@brinkee7674

3 жыл бұрын

yeah with different results also

Suzuki didn't show up lol

Im buying a 2021 soon , im stuck between the honda , kawi and yamaha though to buy 🤔

@arnoldmassey2747

3 жыл бұрын

If your keeping it for a while go with the kawi the only company with the full refresh and the rest of the bikes are mid cycle refresh

@Catman1987

3 жыл бұрын

@@arnoldmassey2747 i ended up buying the Kawi haha .

@shooter7a

3 жыл бұрын

@@Catman1987 get the Ride End link... Also put a 2018 rear brake rotor and carrier on it. Increase the spring rate on the front a little if you are over 180#. Then go ride.

@Catman1987

3 жыл бұрын

@@shooter7a thanks haha , ill so that , i only weigh a 130 pounds though .

@shooter7a

3 жыл бұрын

@@Catman1987 then you will need to drop springs both ends and get a revalve. 130# on a 450? I hope you have good skills and throttle control. If I weighed 130....no way could I handle a 450.

It's crazy how they act like the Suzuki is crap but it's because it doesn't have a e start just a kickstart. But how can you be mad when you're saving so much money over the other brands. They absolutely rip too. I have a 2009 Suzuki 450 and a 2004 ktm 450 and the Suzuki is much more of a beast

@SD-ir1vf

3 жыл бұрын

People don’t want kickstart they want E-start. That’s why I’m getting a new bike. I’m sick of kick start. Also want 4T over 2T.

@richracing7420

3 жыл бұрын

I think the issue is you riding and comparing anything to a 2004 ktm 😂. Ktm of that era were for, let's just say, the more enthusiastic owners of euro brands.

Measure twice cut once! come on guys seriously...

Honda does looks sexy🤤

@carsonjohnson1845

3 жыл бұрын

Honda’s are the best

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

Shame just about every test has but the Honda last.... It's sad 😢 to see Honda turn out a bike like this. Great products normally but that has to be a blow for big red. The 250 is horrible too. No torque.

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

@@carsonjohnson1845 not anymore.

@carsonjohnson1845

3 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelpilot yes they are, u think kawis look good bruhhh

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

@@carsonjohnson1845 I sure do. The Kawasaki is a great looking bike too.

They’re just missing gas gas

In 07 it was low on power 21 its too powerful ?? But the suspension is still the best !!!!! Hhaahah .. I wonder if its getting harder for the test riders to complain about the tiny griefs thats between all the bikes . I feel like rm is kinda meh ... we good .. ktm is the ego.. henss husky.. yamaha is the tech.. honda is the leader with some flaws and kawasaki has power struggles. But is always 3rd.

What about Suzuki

LOL, they edited out the part at the end where all the riders said the KTM was the best.

@yourefireed

3 жыл бұрын

Ktm sucks

@steelywheelie3123

3 жыл бұрын

@@yourefireed lol nobody that has ever ridden a KTM will say it sucks. Kinda sus

@artix6496

3 жыл бұрын

@@steelywheelie3123 I’ve ridden plenty and just to say a Honda handles so much better

Dammit Honda didn’t win

Husky 1st at MXA

Where is Ronnie Mac (#69) his opinions are the only one that matters. Oh ya he's too fast to ride these 4jokes. He's out letting the eagle soar. You know if they had a real race with these guys on their favorite new bike. Ronnie Mac would win on a 1998 screaming 🦅.

Not the same without Suzuki

Does it matter? Nobody can afford ANY of them 😂 ....I have 3 dirt bikes and even combined I didn’t come close to what 1 modern 450 costs...sorry but I’d rather dump 10-12 grand on something that doesn’t depreciate 10 seconds after I bought it

Watching this again because they corrected their mistake. Give them another view

Is the rider not the bike 😅😅I bet any professional motocross rider will do good on any of those bikes

Suzuki and GasGas don’t exist huh

This is a reupload

@arnoldmassey2747

3 жыл бұрын

No there's a different winner

The guys at Honda are willing to help you guys with kickbacks to go with their new sales promotion. Delete this video and have the Honda win for y’all’s 3rd 2021 450 review.

Yamaha's is the best, these guys are just soft

@aidanvelthuis1267

3 жыл бұрын

It’s all subjective

@thisisben3593

3 жыл бұрын

@@aidanvelthuis1267 I've just always believed ktm, husqvarna and Kawasaki have built bikes tailored to these very few testing channels. Where is the others actually build them for the mass's of people who ride. Cause the years where Yamaha's were " not very good bikes ", that's the majority of bikes I would see at tracks. Cause they're fast, innovative and bullet proof reliability.

@aidanvelthuis1267

3 жыл бұрын

@@thisisben3593 Agreed! I’m a Honda guy but I’ve noticed Japanese manufacturers tend to cater to the weekend warrior or the person that isn’t quite as skilled. Me personally I’m not a great rider and I have ridden almost all brands and the Japanese fit me best and I love my 2020 crf250rx

Need to get some dudes that can ride race pace first. Not there dads lol

KTM.....because you can't cut 15lbs of fat off the Kow!

@shooter7a

3 жыл бұрын

The Kawi i the lightest feeling/riding 450. It feels like a 250 to me.

Buy the bike you want these dudes biased. They posted this video a week ago then changed there results

@user-xb8nn6jp3x

3 жыл бұрын

Каури

@KrsMpv

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-xb8nn6jp3x shut up speak English

Poor Suzuki. 😔

Just put my factory rm 250 2 stroke against eny of them my bike was faster and lighter . It takes a heavy 450 to run with a 250 2 stroke .. the only reason the companies went to a 4 stroke is because of the epa thank your government for making the bikes heavy and slower.. my bike 216 pounds with 53 hp . With a big bore kit 216 with 58 hp .

@harrypeterson9287

11 ай бұрын

So a 4% reduction in weight is going to make up for 20% less horsepower and 30% less torque. Keep dreaming, buddy. Good joke though.

No Suzuki

@Tbaron7

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tymx27 just wonderen

Time to unsub, ahaahahahahaahah can you do the test again and give Husky the win this time, hahahahah

@denimdanger5046

3 жыл бұрын

Wish all company’s were still making 2 strokes so we could see husky winning

Dident watch HONDA won!🦅

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

Last in most tests unfortunately and I like Honda's.

@caseyanderson7600

3 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelpilot ya but theses shootouts are shit they never have any consistency and it's usually who they have sponsors with that they vote for.

@twowheelpilot

3 жыл бұрын

@@caseyanderson7600 I hear you. For sure it makes you wonder sometimes.

@caseyanderson7600

3 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelpilot it's facts if you are sponsored by say ktm or a company tied to ktm you're not gonna say any thing bad about you're sponsors and if the test riders are famous enough to know their names in the mx bike community they have sponsors so there you go always about money and everyone sells out.

@caseyanderson7600

3 жыл бұрын

@@twowheelpilot buttery aka connor said he likes the honda and in all his video blogs he is riding red what a coincidence huh. They're just doing and saying what pays them.

kawasaki????????? you people are out of your mind, you have no idea what you talking haha

the suzuki is out, therefor the KTM is twice. such idiots. and next year the KTM to treble. in 20 years will be six KTMs. and the tester will not notice its all the same.

@riciardoverbeek

3 жыл бұрын

maybe the gasgas also next year... 🙄

Keep that 6 feet