Great review Mark. For the first time ever I would probably take this over a Honda equivalent (Forza 350). Why? Because the Sym has virtually the same effortless performance and a screen which is nearly as good, excellent economy, huge under-seat storage, decent warranty, is similar weight, and quite a bit cheaper. Provided you can find a Sym dealer to do the in-warranty servicing this is a far better value machine than the Honda. I'm very impressed by the comfort, speed, brakes, and the lower seat is better for many riders. Never mind "light" touring. This scooter could easily do a long multi-national tour with tons of luggage, and you could get away with just a light extra bag strapped to the back seat. Excellent machine!

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks well said Happy Christmas 🎄

@andorszen

2 жыл бұрын

Honda has 8k miles compare to Sym's 2k miles. Wouldn't be bothered by buying Taiwanese TBH

I think you are the best reviewer on you tube. Thank you for your efforts and the variety of machines you review. What about a long term review on your own bikes or maybe a sponsored bike, you deserve it.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words 🙂

Bloke I worked with switched to a Maxi Scooter, said he’d wished he’d done it years ago Loves them. Such an incredibly relaxing riding position was my impression.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Peter yes they are very comfortable cheers mark

Mark, that was an incredibly thorough review. Thank you.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Greg my pleasure

Hurray! Mark Pulling Reviewing SYM. So nice I clicked thumb up 3 times. I own 2 from the brand Mio and Fiddle 3. You might have seen me on the road ;-). Proper pronunciation is S Y M like B M W but it's a mistake so common you just have to live with, kind of like "been" in America as "ben", "h" in UK as "heidz" not "eidz" or perhaps I'm being a bit nerdy. Best value for money on the market.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the thumbs ups :)

Very good Clip about the Sym 300. Thank you for your work. 👍 I think sym is one of the most underestimatet Brands of Motorscooters in Europe. Most drive Vespa, Honda or yamaha or kymco. I have a 125 sym jet and will switch to the joymax z+ 300.

Great review mark I really like that and u undercuts its rivals it's a no brainer.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks James it's quality looks good too :)

I have it for 3 years now, it's excellent scooter.... Max speed 140km/h

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks sounds great 👍

I own a 155 cc scooter but have recently established that the riding position hurts my lower back after a while. I have started using my 390 Duke as my everyday bike. The scooter is now just for the village. No great loss as the 390 is miles more fun. As ever, a thorough review.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks nik ...love the duke 390 ..such good vfm cheers mark

@user-sw2lv3zp6o

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 It certainly is. I am going to buy an 790 Adventure R over here as they are made in SE Asia still for the Asian market. But I will keep the 390. Just managed to get to the local 7-Eleven and back on the scooter without my back hurting.

@dariomladenovski7047

Жыл бұрын

can't beat a scooter for city ride man, automatic transmission and more comfortable than a motorcycle

Very nice the sum maxi 300 scooter mark it's looks smooth rides nice great review as always thanks👍

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

Very similar spec to my 2021 Forza 300. They really need to get to grips with those short service intervals though, not that much cheaper than a Honda to buy. Great video by the way👍

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Johnathan ...yes never ridden a sym before ...nice quality tbh cheers mark

Loving your reviews Mr P! I know that most of your test bikes are only loaned for a hour or two, but if/when you get a bike for 24hrs or longer please can you do a night ride and headlight review as this is a really important safety aspect for me. Thanks buddy.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks will do :)

Took delivery of the 300 Cruisym last week . Very impressed . The only problem I have experienced is filling with petrol . The design indicates that you will be expected to fill the scooter with a milk jug . A very slow filler

Hi Mark❗ Thanks for the review 👍🏻

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

It seems every SYM distributor in every country chooses it’s own service interval…3,000 Km is a little pathetic nowadays 😣 On the other side of the spectrum Royal Enfield chose to increase service intervals on their Meteor. In Israel these water cooled SYMs have a 5000 km service interval. No one beats Honda though 👍👍👍 Thank you 🙏

@JDMz

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately this is the Chinese Market. They just require a little more maintenance than Convenient motors. Unfortunately it's due to the amount of limitations of dealerships. Not many dealerships will touch a chinese/Taiwanese bike. Hence why the short intervals.

Next Maxsym TL 500 please 😉👍

I rode the Forza 125 and then the Joymax and can say that the seating position and the screen are superior on the Joymax. I think it's a good looking machine and if you can get a used one they are a bargain.

Excellent review, I’m a big fan of the maxi scooters having owned a Suzuki Burgman and Yamaha T Max when I used to commute into London (100 mile round trip) every day until being made redundant when the company moved location. The Sym and Kymco maxi scooters do look good and if I was in the market again for a maxi I would seriously take a look at them as they undercut the Japanese in price. I only have a very short commute these days so use a 125cc scooter. Can you test any of the Royal Alloy scooters?

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Dave ...I'll see if I can get hold of one cheers mark

@AliasMrHackenbacker

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 Thanks, thinking about replacing my 125cc Lexmoto scooter next year So I’m looking at either another small scooter or 125cc motorcycle for my commute and nipping out shopping instead of getting a bigger bike out.

I'm pretty sure this scooter shares its running gear with the j300. Personally I prefer the latter. Better looking and nicer clocks.

Scooter power 💥🤩🥇🇦🇺💪🏼

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Definitely Stevie !

I'm slightly concerned about a 300 Joymax, it sounds like something from the backpages of an Ann Summers catalogue 😆 Hopefully when a battery one is released it will have a quick recharge time to quell rider range anxieties 😉

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Haha lol ...I was waiting for this comment ...I had to double take myself when I read the name of it lololol :)

@gazzertrn

2 жыл бұрын

YYYYYYeeeessssss .

I was going to buy the Honda forza however I came across the Zontes 310m absolutely amazing bike low seat height 33bhp great miles per. Gallon tft screen electric adjustable windshield abs tire monitoring system etc watch Marks review of that bike

@markpulling12

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks 👍

Hey Mark. Enjoy your channel. Do you have any opinion on the Kymco AK550?

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Richard ...no sorry I've no experience sadly it's a bit of a dark horse that one .. never see them but wow what a spec :) I'll keep a look out ...looks like a tmax

@richardhinton985

2 жыл бұрын

They are new here in the US. Looks and sounds really nice.

@ChrischrosBelgium

Жыл бұрын

I have had one for a week. The acceleration is so extreme you don't dare to touch the accelerator. Really a bike for people with years of experience.

Sym and Kymco - the hidden gems of the scooter world. People tend to ignore them but those in the know will tell you just how good they are. Sym don't offer a 5 year warranty for nothing, cracking machine and build quality

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Have to agree there...the build quality is great 👍

@ohwell2790

Жыл бұрын

I am 78 and have been ridding a 2012 Kymco Like 200i and now have 17,000 miles with no problems other than a brake pad change, and tires, and of course oil changes and valve adjustments. Very underrated manufacture who actually builds the BMW max scooter and the G 310cc engine for BMW and others. Lack of advertising and little known in the US. They are the 3rd largest manufacture of scooters in the world. They have built components for Honda for decades also.

@dariomladenovski7047

Жыл бұрын

not familiar with Sym but I know Kymco has been making solid scooters for decades now

hi, does anybody know Torque Values for SYM JOYMAX Z+ 300? oil drain bolt, oil strainer cap, gear oil inspection bolt, gear oil drain bolt, THANK YOU ......

Hi great review, how is it for two up and up hills? Total weight for both of us is 122kgs

@markpulling12

10 ай бұрын

Hi yes it would take on hills no problems...I've ridden up hills 2 up on similar scooters at easily 50 mph plus best wishes mark

@user-qt4up6gg4r

8 ай бұрын

@@markpulling12 thank you

The Taiwanese make the best scooters. Sym and Kymco have perfected the process.

Hi Mark any plans to ride the SYM maxsym 508 TL I would love to see how that rides

@markpulling12

Жыл бұрын

Hi Paul they have one at Poole Moto not on demo but I'll see if I can persuade them :)

@paulblatchford4234

Жыл бұрын

That would be great as I like the look of that

Great video...which did you prefer..this or lexmoto aura 300

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Charlie I'd go for the sym ...just a bit physically bigger and nicer to ride Cheers mark

@charlieboyvespa8610

2 жыл бұрын

worth the extra £1200 would you say

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieboyvespa8610 yes I would...It has nicer build quality..even better is the Forza 350 but it's quite tall in the seat Cheers mark

@charlieboyvespa8610

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 that's the thing. If I was going to get the joymax I may as well get the new honda adv 350. Have you tried a sym jet x yet

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

@@charlieboyvespa8610 no but they look good 😊

Excellent review, as usual, Mark. I like this scooter... ticks all the boxes except for service intervals. But frequent oil changes is the best guarantee for longevity, isn't it. It's just that 2,000 miles seems a little low. I would have expected 3,000 to be honest. Makes me wonder a little... Anyone out there with milage experience with the SYM? Thanks, Gord

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Gord ...I think it's just sym being overly cautious ...with modern oils 3000 miles is absolutely fine ...the Honda Forza 350 is 8000 miles ? ...once out of warranty I'd just change the oil myself anyway ...it's only a couple of litres and a bolt to undo ...very simple servicing on these .... great scooter ...I'm impressed with it's build quality Cheers mark

@gorrdd

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 Thanks for the additional feedback, Mark. Much appreciated!:) Gord

OK, my first concern is that ecm unit under the seat near the rear wheel with all the wires just begging for some scrot to run a box knife across em, seriously couldn't they have found a better place 🤷🏻‍♂️

@garyporter-smith9658

Жыл бұрын

It looks more like its the Regulator Rectifier . Good position for that as it gets cooling air , should ensure longevity. They usually bury them away under the bodywork where they will run hotter.

Oh Dear Mark, your special introduction music used to be totally brilliant, please bring it back/

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Haha point noted 🙂

I have to question the claim that two helmets can fit under the seat. I can't get one full face helmet in, let alone two. I can just about get an open face helmet in though but the clain is very misleading.

How much is the service. Why such close intervals? 😎🇨🇦

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi it won't be much to service ..just a check and an oil change ...it's just sym being overly cautious ....with modern oils you could easily stretch to 3000,/4000 miles on these which is what I'd do once it's out of the warranty period ..Honda Forza 350 is 8000 miles ??? Best regards mark

Mark u heard anything about the Honda ADV 350 comin

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

No nothing yet 🙂

@insu1569

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 honda really have some top secret level of confidentiality, not even one photo i can find on the net a week away from its launch….

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

@@insu1569 really hope it comes to the uk !

@insu1569

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 yo mark its just unveiled at EICMA sharing the forza 350 platform

2k miles service intervals? Cmon. Can't compete with Hondas 8k. Forza or the adv 350 far better choice. Great review though.

@charlieboyvespa8610

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agreed and depreciation will be substantial

Looks like you've been very busy lately

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. Yes and loads new models due in November :)

bro, is there a difference between joymax and joymax Z ? im confused lol

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi the z is just the newer model I believe with a few upgrades but the joymax is still very good cheers mark

Hi dose the speedo read in KPH OR MPH On the outside ring cheers

@markpulling12

Жыл бұрын

From memory it's kmh on the outer ring

@paulblatchford4234

Жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 Hi mark I've a question for you I'm interested to know what your thoughts are about a comparison of the 300cc bracket, how would this stack up against, say a x max 300cc or a Forza 300 / 350 / I need something comfortable and fairly nippy. I've got CF moto 650 GT on the strength of your review and that's a good bike so trust your opinion cheers

@markpulling12

Жыл бұрын

@@paulblatchford4234 hi Paul the Forza and xmax are top end scooters £5500/6000 ish if you want a cheaper one the sym is good but I'd go for the zontes 310m it rides very well...I have a review on it and here is a link www.ebay.co.uk/itm/155007199902?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=8QL0T4VDTSC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=GFt860-0RWW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

@paulblatchford4234

Жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 Thanks mark last question for you is the Zontes 310m much smaller than the Sym if so I might struggle as I'm quite big I've sat on the sym and the bars hit my knees on full lock but I can get away with it I think.

@markpulling12

Жыл бұрын

@@paulblatchford4234 hi Paul yes the zontes is smaller than the sym

another question if possible, can u go 100 kmh on the highway all day long as i have heard with this 300cc?

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi yes 100 kmh is easy all day long on this ,it will do about 135 kmh top speed regards mark

@satlaouiayyub

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 big love Mark for the quick responds

I'm in Korea. I own SYM Z+300 Can I get a maintenance manual?Link, please

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

www.manualslib.com/products/Sym-Joymax-ZPlus-12085482.html

@coffeeandcigarettes5460

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 Sorry maintenance manual 😢

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

@@coffeeandcigarettes5460 ok there should be a download owners section on the sym website:)

Interesting that Chinese scooters seem to be made for shorter riders while Honda etc seem to think everyone is a giant. Surprised the adjustable seat hasn't been invented to widen appeal of Honda etc to shorter riders

@pipolow5478

10 ай бұрын

It's not chinese...

@SurreyAlan

10 ай бұрын

@@pipolow5478 Taiwanese, but they do have production facilities in China and Vietnam and of course Taiwan. My point is that bikes from that part of the world seem to come with lower seat heights, as the majority of bike sales are in countries where people are shorter than Europe and the States it seems odd that the lives of honda don't really have many offerings for the shorter rider.

@pipolow5478

10 ай бұрын

@@SurreyAlan words have meanings that are important, especially in regards to Taiwan and China. You turned your comment around. Honda too have factories in China so your point about Taiwanese scooters being for shorter riders because they're made in China is irrelevant. China and Taiwan just aren't the same thing.

I wish you’d stop uploading these scooter videos as not sure how much longer I can resist 😉👌🏻👍🏻

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Haha 😂

Woohoo a scooter of a decent size I can buy in the States! In my region if youre not going 80, youre gonna die on the highway.. people are crazy!

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks glad to hear that you can get this in the states

Sym back up in the past has been crap. I had a 300 a few years back. Rear suspension brackets broke and couldn’t get replacement shocks. Selling garage took it back after trying for 4 months to get replacements. Beware.

The Joymax!! Sounds like something you'd buy the wife from Ann Summers.. Is it ribbed for her pleasure 😅😅

@markpulling12

8 ай бұрын

Definitely there is a joymax 2 coming to an Anne summers catalogue soon Cheers mark:) :) 😀

@Team-fabulous

8 ай бұрын

@@markpulling12 great video mark. My brother has this scooter and loves it...

Oh yeah and let's not forget the honda forza 350 is only £500 more with much better equipment 😁

@thinkof100

Жыл бұрын

Got to agree, it needs to be cheaper or most folks will pony up the extra £500 for a proven better scooter.

@johnklumpp7901

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, additionally Lets not forget that the Honda Forza 350 is also some 33mm (1.3") taller in the saddle than the JoyMaz Z +, which may register as a no-no for riders of shorter statue. Of interest, its possible that Honda kicked off the resent (Maxi) motor scooter craze (compared to the original 1950s Vespa category . . with manual transmission & twist gearchange), with their early 1980s Helix (CN250) with its non-repeated 665 mm (26.2 in) Seat Height. So, lets not forget that Honda has turned its back on the preferences of riders of shorter statue.

@mattbristo6933

3 ай бұрын

But used they are a steal. You can't get one with less than 700 miles on it for £3600.

19:20 "You can probably pick up a good used one..." You're either dreaming or live in the future. I can't even find this model in the global SYM website yet. How in the world am I going to find a used one?

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Hi ...if you are in the uk this one is for sale at a good saving on new or maybe a used cruisym model Cheers mark

bad processing!!

Not exactly Honda quality nor the Forza's 8000mile service intervals. I'd rather pay the extra and have a Forza 350 (which I've ordered).

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Great choice :) the Forza

@pommiegranite464

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 Thanks Mark. Ride safe.

@cloggsy1971

2 жыл бұрын

I bought a BMW C400GT, expensive, but quality!!

@pommiegranite464

2 жыл бұрын

@@cloggsy1971 Nice bike.

@volt8684

2 жыл бұрын

When i lived in Spain these are everywhere with substantial kms recorded? So must be ok. Had an xmax for yrs not a problem ever

Very poor service intervals

@JDMz

2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that's down to limitations of dealerships. Hence why they want sooner intervals. Not many dealerships will touch chinese/Taiwanese bikes.

Seriously 2000 mile service interval! If correct it's absolutely rubbish for a 21st century bike!

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Yes correct ...think I'd just diy :) Once out of warranty Cheers mark

@kevindarkstar

2 жыл бұрын

@@markpulling12 agree, I'm sorry but that's terrible 🤷🏻‍♂️

Shame it sounds like a sextoy 🤣

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

New batteries please !!!

2000 miles services. No thanks

@charlieboyvespa8610

2 жыл бұрын

Mark...the new adv 350 from honda definitely looks worth a look

Not a good name sounds like a sex toy ."Hey what you riding , a Joymax ,have fun mmmmmmmmmmmmm". What makes it worse is the name is plastered all over the side lol,for all the world too see that your riding a Joymax ........🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Not for me.

@markpulling12

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I thought that !!! Lol