2021 Aprilia Tuono 660 vs. 2021 Triumph Trident 660

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Cycle World put's Aprilia's Tuono 660 up against the Triumph Trident 660. Which will come out on top as the best entry level motorcycle into these two premium brands.
Let’s give the design teams behind the Aprilia Tuono 660 and Triumph Trident 660 a break. To create worthy entry-level naked middleweights that represent the heritage and know-how of premium brands is no easy feat. Such bikes must find a balance between approachability for beginners and sporty performance for experienced riders, embody the emotional personality of their brands’ flagship models, and be both well polished and cost effective. Get it right and create lifetime brand loyalty; fail to hit every mark and get told-you-so’s from the brand’s most loyal customers. No pressure, team.
In the cases of Aprilia and Triumph, there’s a lot to live up to. Each brand has built a following upon its own design paths, resulting in two very different machines. Aprilia bleeds Italian racing heritage and the superbike technical excellence that comes with it, an aura of no-expense-spared sporting performance. Triumph, on the other hand, exudes purist British design with an emphasis on refined simplicity.
On paper, these bikes’ equal displacement would seem to call for a head-to-head comparison, but the diverging intentions of the two machines left us wondering if buyers would even cross-shop the Aprilia and the Triumph. So what started as a battle of all-new 660 middleweights quickly turned into a comparison of entry-point choices from two exceptional brands with very different design approaches. That firmly in mind, we headed to California’s central coast to put each through its paces.
Triumph Trident 660: $8,095
The Trident 660 is Triumph’s attempt at an affordable and approachable segue into the sporting side of the British brand, using the ultrarefined performance of the inline triple made legendary by the Street Triple and Speed Triple platforms, all for a very reasonable as-tested price of $8,095.
The heart of the Trident is a liquid-cooled DOHC 659cc inline-triple, essentially a de-stroked version of the original Street Triple 675. Why sacrifice power? The Trident is built as a more modest machine with the versatility and friendliness needed for an entry-level model, stepping away from the naked sportbike scene of its ancestors as the Street Triple has morphed into a premium performance-based naked middleweight. Still, the Trident gets a bunch of modern features: ride-by-wire technology, traction control, ABS, and even a TFT display with Bluetooth connectivity.
The Trident’s engine benefits from Triumph’s years of continuous refinement to the inline-triple range, highlighted by the silky smooth linear delivery of its CW-measured 72.1 peak horsepower at 10,200 rpm and 42.9 pound-feet of torque at 6,700 rpm. Direct throttle connection and gentle initial power delivery lend to confidence-inspiring acceleration, aided by the excellent grip of Michelin Road 5 rubber. And, while modest figures may suggest otherwise to spec sheet spies, getting the Trident’s throttle WFO is damn addicting, not least because the triple-trumpet exhaust howls as it rips through its very well-spaced six-speed gearbox; if you aren’t on the Triumph, you want to be behind it to soak in all that triple glory. But the best part, in combination with the price tag, is how approachable and easy to use it is for less experienced riders. The torque curve is incredibly broad and flat, making for flexible right-here-right-now oomph. It’s a quick bike, but the smooth delivery won’t cause trouble, especially as it is aided by a basic and switchable TC system with subtle intervention.
Handling is also delightfully neutral, adding to the overall balance and versatility of Trident. Yes, the steering geometry is more relaxed and the measured dry weight is 25 pounds heavier than the Aprilia, but it offers easy steering with confidence-inspiring symmetry in its front-to-rear balance. The well-tuned Showa shock and 41mm fork offer help here with a solid blend of small-bump compliance to soak up the small chatter and big-hit support for backroad wailing, despite the fork not allowing any adjustment. It’d be easy to scoff at the lack of adjustability, but remember Triumph’s aim.
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  • @patrickcallahan2885
    @patrickcallahan28852 жыл бұрын

    This is possibly one of the best categories of motorcycles, and I’m glad to see these in the line up. So many of the 600 Supersports have disappeared, but these are more road worthy and perfect for “My First Big Bike”.

  • @bella_testastretta

    @bella_testastretta

    Жыл бұрын

    trident is more like a beginner bike whereas tuono is more like the "my first big bike"

  • @hassenfepher
    @hassenfepher3 жыл бұрын

    i like this conversation format. its more than just a fact dump, its a story. its more fun to follow through.

  • @filmerbert4381

    @filmerbert4381

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! I’m glad to hear that you like our approach at how we do our comparison and shootout video productions. We do our best to make these videos as engaging visual and informative as possible.

  • @Cary_mac

    @Cary_mac

    2 жыл бұрын

    Amen! No one mentioned servicing and the difficulties of servicing a aprilia though which may prove not to be difficult for quite a few people. Regardless, both are gorgeous bikes.

  • @emmanuelcortes9689
    @emmanuelcortes96892 жыл бұрын

    Love the Aprilia Tuono 660. I drove one for over 5 hours and Loved it. Only took 3 Breaks and I would say it is comfortable for being a Sporty Bike.

  • @specter15L
    @specter15L3 жыл бұрын

    I like this format, great review, and very entertaining to watch. Keep it up!

  • @filmerbert4381

    @filmerbert4381

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Glad to hear you like our approach at how we create our comparison and shootout productions. We definitely have more to come.

  • @timothymills733
    @timothymills7333 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys. You both do a really good job of providing relatable information. This is the type video that can really help in making purchasing decisions.

  • @filmerbert4381

    @filmerbert4381

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! We do our best to bring our audience the most engaging visuals and educational information

  • @Sheltemz
    @Sheltemz2 жыл бұрын

    I have the trident 660 and really pleased with it, lovely and easy to ride and a great looking bike

  • @motorcyclemarv8912
    @motorcyclemarv89123 жыл бұрын

    Michael keep up the great work @ MotoAmerica. Rooting for you buddy!

  • @QuackLoud
    @QuackLoud2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. I agree with Runyon's comment about the new format. You guys provided subjective info that is really usable for someone (like me) that is considering both. Gave me lots to think about. Thanks.

  • @fleemos
    @fleemos2 жыл бұрын

    Never thought a parallel twin could sound that good

  • @motowing4168
    @motowing41682 жыл бұрын

    I’m not looking to buy either of these two bikes but this was a really good review. Very well done guys, love how you guys put this together.

  • @staceymoore107
    @staceymoore1072 жыл бұрын

    Loved this review. I have a Daytona 675R and my husband has a Tuono 1100 which I also love, but is just too much for me. I’ve been looking at both of these bikes, and this helped confirm what I was thinking. Pre-ordered a Tuono 660 Factory. However, my 675R is the best bike I’ve ever owned - so wouldn’t hesitate to buy either!

  • @jonathanjustman6628
    @jonathanjustman66283 жыл бұрын

    Two great bikes. I'd be happy with either!

  • @Jay-ehn
    @Jay-ehn2 жыл бұрын

    If you guys filmed and recorded more of these and put them up as a short podcast platform. I’d listen. These two hold a great conversation and I almost prefer to the usual “shootout” format.

  • @stanleyblazeraznik6047
    @stanleyblazeraznik60472 жыл бұрын

    A couple of pros giving an honest review and comparison. Informative and articulate. A fine piece of journalism for sure. I am 55 years old and riding since I had my drivers license. My final four were the Kawasaki z900rs Cafe, Honda CBR650R and these two machines. My final two were the Aprilia and Triumph. The Aprilia dealer is 1.5.hours from my home and 3 phone calls to the dealer left me with a feeling that they were not really interested in selling me a bike. Triumph dealer an hour away and immediately engaged me in the process of ordering and taking deliver of the Trident. I had the dealer fit the quickshifter which is a hoot. Now....the bad news....at 600 miles and one week after the break in service and quickshifter install the bike threw 3 codes. Trans fault, check engine and coolent temp high. Dealer assured me they were all quickshifter related. Bike has been at the dealer for 2 weeks. I had to trailer it there. Parts on order. Was thinking that modular triple from Thailand would be rock solid. Hmmmm........

  • @Watson2108

    @Watson2108

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe you just had bad luck. In general I think that all brands are pretty reliable nowadays but there are always a few black sheep. The big Aprilia recall for the 660‘s wasn‘t even Aprilia‘s fault, a supplier just messed up so that could have happened to every brand. The Z900 RS is certainly a unique bike, great taste! Anyway, good luck on your motorcycling journey, I‘m just starting mine right now by getting my license

  • @GrotrianSeiler
    @GrotrianSeiler3 жыл бұрын

    Great coverage!

  • @rotor4033
    @rotor40332 жыл бұрын

    Really nice to see some wheeling. One cannot find info about wheeling capabilities of trident in literally anywhere.

  • @thinkdunson
    @thinkdunson2 жыл бұрын

    got the tuono 660 about a month ago. bought the quickshifter and IMU, but still waiting for them to come in stock to be installed. an OEM option that no one mentions is the pillion with the wings like the full size tuono. it's only in black, but still looks cool. a quickshifter and IMU are only 200 bones each, but somehow a seat cost 300. not sure how that happens, but whatever; i don't ride to save money.

  • @superstarsfastcars

    @superstarsfastcars

    Жыл бұрын

    I agree that seat cowl could have been 199😆. But I am like you I love adding upgrades. People complain about the bikes not coming with these features. But the companies know what they are doing. They are here to make money. That is what the Factory edition is for. Enjoy you bike and stay safe💪🏾

  • @portaltwo
    @portaltwo2 жыл бұрын

    Here in Canada, the price difference is 40% (roughly $10k vs $14k) and at those price points I think their target markets start to diverge even more.

  • @ThePowerMoves

    @ThePowerMoves

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get it used, fixed

  • @TheBarnaby25

    @TheBarnaby25

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ThePowerMoves Not really. Have you looked at the used prices? It's like people think they 'increase' in value the more miles they have. It's insane.

  • @ll.7927

    @ll.7927

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheBarnaby25 yea I hate the used market right now. Just buy new.

  • @Peter-Parkey
    @Peter-Parkey2 жыл бұрын

    The Tuono 660 factory with a full exhaust +upmap Gabro is a weapon on the street, usable power everywhere, amazing handling and electronics.

  • @Outdawrzman
    @Outdawrzman3 жыл бұрын

    I bought the 660 and absolutely love it !!! Can’t wait for the adventure model to be released

  • @patthonsirilim5739

    @patthonsirilim5739

    3 жыл бұрын

    i hope truimph does a r7 move and make a sport bike version of this it has everything the r7 lack decnt electronics and an autobliper all it needs is a upgraded suspension some clip on and a fairing

  • @eyeballs97

    @eyeballs97

    2 жыл бұрын

    which 660 tho...?

  • @helgejohan3604
    @helgejohan36043 жыл бұрын

    Very good review 🤘i want Tuono 660 with akro exhaust🔥🤙

  • @tyrontyron
    @tyrontyron2 жыл бұрын

    how do you compare tuono660 vs triumph street triple??

  • @tonydare7614
    @tonydare76142 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison. I test rode the Tuono against the Speed and Street Triple and bought the Tuono. It's a lovely bike to ride daily and always puts a massive grin on my face. But I do a lot of city riding and no track days, otherwise I might have picked the Street RS.

  • @creedencewoodard8571

    @creedencewoodard8571

    2 жыл бұрын

    Man how is it treating you I've read it's got alot of gremlins....I want one by the way

  • @tonydare7614

    @tonydare7614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@creedencewoodard8571 hi, really loved it but didn't keep it. Didn't have any serious issues but only did 2k miles. I keep changing because I live in Paris, and the rules are stupid, not because of the bike! Today I'm testing a Zero. They are making it impossible for petrol bikes here 😰 ride safe

  • @Farsightful

    @Farsightful

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tonydare7614 zero c'est une arnaque monstrueuse.

  • @tonydare7614

    @tonydare7614

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Farsightful c'est possible mais j'adore la FXE... elle n'a que des points forts. C'est cher pour moi le prix est justifié en vue de la qualité et les performances

  • @brianallen8752
    @brianallen8752 Жыл бұрын

    I've rode bikes for years and went with the Trident because for what you pay you get an awesome bike but I've really be thinking about the 765 Street Triple

  • @DEXTERSONEMANBAND
    @DEXTERSONEMANBAND3 жыл бұрын

    🔱 for sure! It’s all around elegant bike!

  • @rbattson7171
    @rbattson71713 ай бұрын

    It should be mentioned, that the tuono really has to be spanked to get the best out of it, which is fine if you like the track. However, the trident 660 trident performs much lower down the rev range, which appeals to someone wanting a bike that can/is fun without needing to go around the streets hell for leather to get the best out of it. Thank you for the video.

  • @shardie78239
    @shardie78239 Жыл бұрын

    Man I was so happy to see this comparison because these two were my picks I’ve owned Ducati before and a GSXR 1000 but I want lighter and liked the riding position on the Aprilla vs the RS version. When you look at reviews the Trident some say is smooth and a bit boring. If your riding an MT07 or MT 09 I would understand why they would feel that way. Hooligan comes to mind. My other consideration would have to be the KTM Duke 890. That power delivery on that bike is awesome and it makes a great all around bike. I just stayed away from KTM because the paint is WILD and not as nice looking to me as the Trident.

  • @Fearless154
    @Fearless1542 жыл бұрын

    Rode both bikes and my conclusion is that trintet 660 is more designed for beginners it's a very solid and smooth bike but it revs slowly and in a more friendly way for the experienced rider the bike feels kinda lackluster and boring. While Tuono 660 has a more playful nature and is suited more for an experienced rider who wants a rational sports bike on the street and track.

  • @dry509
    @dry5092 жыл бұрын

    Isnt there quite a difference in price?

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.13 жыл бұрын

    What’s your recording setup ? Mics cameras etc? Make a video on it pls

  • @cycleworld

    @cycleworld

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cameras- Sony FS5, A7s and A7s MK2. Mics- Sennheiser EW 100 G3 and G4 Lav set.

  • @quacktac
    @quacktac Жыл бұрын

    I got a Trident as my first bike and I would not have wanted any more performance in my first year.

  • @RickSanchez__642

    @RickSanchez__642

    Жыл бұрын

    Planning to do the same :)

  • @stephenmitchum5864
    @stephenmitchum58642 жыл бұрын

    You two undoubtedly know your stuff, but I can’t wrap my head around how these two bikes are competitors.

  • @ikbendusan

    @ikbendusan

    2 жыл бұрын

    i've ridden them both and i can tell you they are not. the triump is a forgettable experience compared to the tuono

  • @DoctorStrange01

    @DoctorStrange01

    2 жыл бұрын

    They're not, but it's content, i guess.

  • @drrider1658
    @drrider16583 жыл бұрын

    The Trident may well be the value leader in the class now taking over from the MT-07. I think both bikes accomplish the mission well their mfg's. had in mind.

  • @ikbendusan

    @ikbendusan

    2 жыл бұрын

    too bad the trident is boring in comparison

  • @mississippirebel1409

    @mississippirebel1409

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ikbendusan i'm assuming you have never rode either bike, much less the Trident lol

  • @ikbendusan

    @ikbendusan

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@mississippirebel1409 you assumed wrong. i owned an mt-07 and test rode a trident. the trident was the most forgetable motorbike out of all the ones i've ridden. not to say it's a bad bike; it's just boring. to me.

  • @fukyu3739
    @fukyu3739 Жыл бұрын

    For anyone wondering on the Trident, this particular colorway for 2023 $8,750 plus call it $900 for destination. Rough OTD price $11k depending on tax rate. Thats if you can find one in stock nearby when you decide to pull the trigger.

  • @regislacomme5238
    @regislacomme52383 жыл бұрын

    looking at both the front tyres of these motorcycles, the Aprilia Pirelli Diablo rosso corsa 2 ?? are well used to the edge, where the Triumph Michelin Road 4 ??.... are hardly even coming down near the edge of the tyre! any specific reason for that??... if you guys really rode these 2 machines on the road for a few days then either the tyres are very different compounds and / or one motorcycle enjoys leaning where the other one prefers cruising?... were the 2 brands of tyres similar in their compounds and road performance? kindly clarify since it indeed has a profound effect on the performance and feel of the motorcycles. Thank you, great video!

  • @daraplayz3875
    @daraplayz38757 ай бұрын

    Great analysis although update wise in the UK atm the Tuono 660 Factory (includes quick-shifter, adjustable suspension, cornering IMU, rear seat cowl, slightly more power) is £7,995 new whilst rhe trident is between £7,500 on new so only £500 difference. Strange the gap in price has come down so much….

  • @Acemechanicalservices

    @Acemechanicalservices

    5 ай бұрын

    If you see someone selling the Tuono for that price, I’d buy as many as possible to resell, because the uk price is over 10,000 pounds. Don’t know where you got your info, but you’ve been misled.

  • @porterdallenbach1639
    @porterdallenbach1639 Жыл бұрын

    Tearing it up in Los Olivos!

  • @NerdblurbSteve
    @NerdblurbSteve3 жыл бұрын

    Well said.

  • @FrankLeblanc
    @FrankLeblanc2 жыл бұрын

    I have a few years riding experience. GS500F and SV650S. I'm looking for my next bike. Both Aprilia and Triumph dealerships are quite far away from home so in case of issues, it's be a long drive with a trailer. Which one is likely to be the most reliable bike of the two. I'll be riding a mix of highway and suburbian roads. Average rides of 100-150 miles/day. Thanks guys!

  • @creedencewoodard8571

    @creedencewoodard8571

    2 жыл бұрын

    The triumphs engine has been around for awhile and way more refined then the Aprilia...I want the Tuono but reading aprilia forums alot of people are dealing with some serious gremlins

  • @A_Wolf

    @A_Wolf

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you're going to be willing to spend 10k might as well look at naked 900s

  • @jimmarshall807
    @jimmarshall8073 жыл бұрын

    I think they should do a review of Michael's 'tache vs. Adam's hair

  • @Joric78
    @Joric783 жыл бұрын

    Unlike the RS 660 the Tuono doesn't have the IMU electronic features unless you pay for an upgrade does it?

  • @nizzmo100

    @nizzmo100

    3 жыл бұрын

    or the quick shifter

  • @superstarsfastcars

    @superstarsfastcars

    Жыл бұрын

    Because they saved that for the Factory edition as standard. Marketing 101. 😉

  • @Acemechanicalservices

    @Acemechanicalservices

    5 ай бұрын

    @@superstarsfastcars He was comparing it to the RS 660, which is a third tier as opposed to a second tier.

  • @TheImtoomuch
    @TheImtoomuch3 жыл бұрын

    Good review, guys. How long until Triumph updates the Trident to a 765? It’s inevitable IMO. The Trident is a great looking motorcycle. I just wish it was a better motorcycle with higher performance. Throw the MT-07 in this lineup for a nice shootout.

  • @rishirajsaikia1323

    @rishirajsaikia1323

    Жыл бұрын

    Z900 is in the same price range.

  • @rbattson7171

    @rbattson7171

    Жыл бұрын

    That's why they offer the street tripples. The trident is considered entry level! It's a great bike for its chosen market.

  • @Poulusma
    @Poulusma2 жыл бұрын

    Nice review! But can someone tell me why the Aprilia has the extra direction indicators on the side? In my opinion they are not necessary because the Tuono has its indicators in the headlight 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @foxyheadhunter2971

    @foxyheadhunter2971

    2 жыл бұрын

    In the European market the signals are built into the headlight, but in the North American market they are built out separate!

  • @Poulusma

    @Poulusma

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@foxyheadhunter2971 Thanks for the answer! Now i understand.

  • @SuperbikeDiscovery
    @SuperbikeDiscovery3 жыл бұрын

    Imma be first here today! After destroying my 1100 tuono im thinking about this nice fun afordable new tuono 660, looks sensational!

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    3 жыл бұрын

    How did you destroy it? Was it your fault, or was it a reliability issue?

  • @SuperbikeDiscovery

    @SuperbikeDiscovery

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@motozest7856 video on my channel. Combination of new shitty bridgestones not dialed in yet and bad body position in a tight turn.

  • @stevenwalk8564
    @stevenwalk85642 жыл бұрын

    Great review guys. I tuned in because I have a Tuono V4 Factory and wanted to see if it was blasphemy to use the Tuono name on a 660. Apparently Aprilia did it right,......Again. I'd love to ride them both. They look like fun.

  • @GaryJohnWalker1
    @GaryJohnWalker13 жыл бұрын

    Chalk and cheese. Apples and oranges. I'd love the Trident as an every day bike. The Tuono as a third or fourth fun bike, but would want something more useful really. Like at a similar price to the Tuono with the bits that really should be standard - an mt09sp or maybe Street Triple R.

  • @merovinger
    @merovinger Жыл бұрын

    I can not decide :(

  • @Chase_N
    @Chase_N3 жыл бұрын

    What's that hanging off of the bottom of the Aprilia @ 13:19?

  • @jonathanjustman6628

    @jonathanjustman6628

    3 жыл бұрын

    Drain tube.

  • @ParaSucd
    @ParaSucd3 жыл бұрын

    Would Not say no to one of These bikes

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
    @user-sw2lv3zp6o3 жыл бұрын

    I'd take the Trident of these two, but I'd rather have an SV650 or XSR700. Great review. Two excellent reviewers. Top channel.

  • @organichotdog3807

    @organichotdog3807

    2 жыл бұрын

    SV650 is a great bike, rock solid, reliable, and good value. If someone has the money for a Tuono, they should definitely consider other bikes first. There are a lot of 900cc+ bikes available for the price of the Tuono. When or if I decide to move on from my SV, it would be for a bike like the new XSR900. That bike has the creature comforts I wouldn't mind having like cruise control, a quick shifter, and a slipper clutch, and costs only $10K.

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o

    @user-sw2lv3zp6o

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@organichotdog3807 What if Suzuki stuck their 1050 V-twin engine in a naked chassis to create an SV1150?

  • @organichotdog3807

    @organichotdog3807

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@user-sw2lv3zp6o That would be interesting. If it got good reviews, I would definitely add that to my list.

  • @aventrax
    @aventrax Жыл бұрын

    Defining Trident design as British is not exactly what it is, due to the fact that has been designed by Rodolfo Frascoli who is Italian 😁

  • @infamouscircuits
    @infamouscircuits2 жыл бұрын

    Tuono 660 or Trident 660 - if you could get them nearly for the same price (both brand new) 😉❓ That's what I am thinking about right now in cold Germany 🙈😂... decisions, decision 😄

  • @asnaeb-er3wz
    @asnaeb-er3wz3 жыл бұрын

    Would've loved a little discussion about reliability of both bikes and brands.

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    3 жыл бұрын

    It goes like this: if it's a priority for you, buy Japanese.

  • @stevenwalk8564

    @stevenwalk8564

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@motozest7856 Not true really. I'm dealing with a horrendous Japanese bike experience right now.

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenwalk8564 That's called anecdotal evidence, and it sits at the lowest level in the hierarchy of evidence. Japanese bikes are by far the most reliable; the Japanese motorcycle industry, like the Japanese car industry, has been leading reliability surveys for decades, achieving the highest scores by a considerable margin. Those reliability scores are calculated from thousands and thousands of ownership experiences - that's what makes them relevant. Your specific experience, although major to you, is irrelevant.

  • @stevenwalk8564

    @stevenwalk8564

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@motozest7856 Okay, you want some anecdotal evidence? How about a brand new 2021 Japanese Liter bike with 1450 miles on it that throws a rod through the engine case while the cruse is set at 75? This is not some bad sensor or warped rotor, this is the entire engine obliterated and a manufacturer that refuses to do anything about it. It's been in the shop for 4 months now and I'm out $18k. I would say that's completely relevant to any discussion about reliability. I hope it never happens to you.

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenwalk8564 That's called anecdotal evidence, and it sits at the lowest level in the hierarchy of evidence. Japanese bikes are by far the most reliable; the Japanese motorcycle industry, like the Japanese car industry, has been leading reliability surveys for decades, achieving the highest scores by a considerable margin. Those reliability scores are calculated from thousands and thousands of ownership experiences - that's what makes them relevant. Your specific experience, although major to you, is irrelevant. Like it would also be irrelevant would it have been my own experience - 1 or 2 or 3 data points is different from hundreds of thousands of data points.

  • @brianm5753
    @brianm57533 жыл бұрын

    How does Aprilia make more power in the Tuono 660 than the rest in the segment?

  • @timothydubber549

    @timothydubber549

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because they’re not in the same category, not really. It’s a very strange comparison. In the UK at least, the Triumph sits with the Z650, MT07, SV650. A beginner friendly, basic suspension 65-80bhp bike. The Tuono is more of a competitor to the MT09, Street Triple, Z900 segment. Better suspension, a more sophisticated electronics package and a similar price. A little underpowered compared to them, but not a million miles away.

  • @superstarsfastcars

    @superstarsfastcars

    Жыл бұрын

    @@timothydubber549 It is the sweet spot in-between both of those categories 😆

  • @markoskorpil4274
    @markoskorpil42742 жыл бұрын

    Trident is missing 15-20 hp, otherwise great looking bike.

  • @Ill06Taco
    @Ill06Taco2 жыл бұрын

    Give these guys some real chairs

  • @winner1338
    @winner1338 Жыл бұрын

    Aprilia!!! Middle-class with quickshifter and autoblipper is very rare.

  • @raiseinets3759
    @raiseinets37592 жыл бұрын

    The aprilia is priced over 17k usd here in our country vs the triumph which cost about 10k usd. I’d really love to see more aprilias around here but the cost is not worth it.

  • @DoctorStrange01

    @DoctorStrange01

    2 жыл бұрын

    17k USD ? What country are you in ? Such a big difference sounds so silly.

  • @raiseinets3759

    @raiseinets3759

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DoctorStrange01 the Philippines. Yup. Exactly my thoughts. Import taxes + corruption. We’re used to it but it’s still a pain.

  • @DoctorStrange01

    @DoctorStrange01

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@raiseinets3759 it costs 11k in Germany and probably pretty much all Europe, and Triumph like 8k. That's crazy.

  • @raiseinets3759

    @raiseinets3759

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. It’s a shame which is why it’s really hard to own european bikes around here. Well, any bike actually. 😅

  • @matthewdelia906

    @matthewdelia906

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DoctorStrange01 14k in Malta, prices are insane, yamaha r7 at almost 13k

  • @TK-cl1jm
    @TK-cl1jm2 жыл бұрын

    Decent comparison, but it just feels like you are trying SUPER hard not to upset those sponsors. So much, "Not in a bad way... That's not a bad thing... Not that there's anything wrong with that..." 🙄 And saying that the Triumph "doesn't give up that much in performance..." is totally not what literally EVERY other YT review says.

  • @jakecarterIMOHealth
    @jakecarterIMOHealth3 жыл бұрын

    How do you feel about this review now with the current recalls from the Aprilia?

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    3 жыл бұрын

    What recalls?

  • @1985GusT

    @1985GusT

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@motozest7856 about 100 of them depending on production number are having the engines replaced due to an “issue.” I have yet to see details on what exactly.

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1985GusT Didn't know that. At least Aprilia is owning up to the fact and issuing the recall...

  • @jakecarterIMOHealth

    @jakecarterIMOHealth

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@motozest7856 it's a lot more than 100. People waited weeks or months to get the bike only to have it deemed unsafe after a couple rides. In the US, there isn't a strong dealer network so the replacements could take a very long time. I'm one of the people dealing with this.

  • @nizzmo100

    @nizzmo100

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@1985GusT Bad batch of con rods .

  • @stilldajoker
    @stilldajoker2 жыл бұрын

    I dunno, if you guys rode both in a potholed city setting, smooth pavement ... like ?

  • @nizzmo100
    @nizzmo1003 жыл бұрын

    If you are on the fence on which bike to buy IMHO get the Triumph , these reviewers need to look at the Tuono again the fit and finish Is not as good as the Triumph ...I know I have a Tuono 660 , there are a lot of bad things going on with the RS/Tuono 660s ATM just read whats going on In the forums . If I could turn the clock back six weeks , I would wait twelve months before I bought my bike maybe by then Aprilia might just have got this bike sorted.

  • @AMVHunte

    @AMVHunte

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really just ordered mine, getting it next tuesday

  • @creedencewoodard8571

    @creedencewoodard8571

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what is putting me off from getting one the forums are full of people not happy with their purchase

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.13 жыл бұрын

    Yea I Will be honest I really hoped the trident would be a little more spicy. Just a tad. If it just matched the aprillia power wise it would be a hot ticket…or just give us a RS version with upgraded everything included a higher state of tune and I’ll buy it. The trident is so pretty. If only it was a sleeper

  • @1985GusT
    @1985GusT3 жыл бұрын

    The Trident lacked character, throttle was laggy and just felt blah to me when I test rode it last week. Fuelling felt a bit strange and noticed a bit of rev hang at times. Maybe I was just expecting more since all the reviews keep claiming how awesome it is and some even placing it above the Aprilia. I haven’t ridden the Ape yet but seriously doubt that.

  • @dyoung4184

    @dyoung4184

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I have a Trident 660 . You can accidentally set the TC and Power to the rain setting, in the road mode. If the test bike was not reset to factory settings before the next test ride. You could be riding in the last setting as it does not default. Cheers Doug 🇬🇧

  • @1985GusT

    @1985GusT

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dyoung4184 that’s a really good point and makes a lot of sense. I’m not really used to all that wizardry. My super sport doesn’t even have ABS lol

  • @tomaszp614

    @tomaszp614

    2 жыл бұрын

    @1985GusT agree 100%, I test rode it this weekend, I thought it was in rain mode, it wasn't. I'd rather buy sv650

  • @tg8150

    @tg8150

    2 жыл бұрын

    I own a Trident too. Yes the throttle sucks. It hangs and has delays. But if you get the revs up, that all disappears. Yes it needs a reflash but the thing is so smooth. The tranny is like pure butter. For the price, it’s hard to beat.

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan2 жыл бұрын

    How is it possible that the Aprilia 660 has so much more horse power than the kawasaki 650 or yamaha mt07 twin engines ? Or even the 660 Trident tripple ?

  • @foxyheadhunter2971

    @foxyheadhunter2971

    2 жыл бұрын

    Runs a very high compression rate! 13.1:1 I believe

  • @Monkey-biz

    @Monkey-biz

    Жыл бұрын

    Most manufacturers de-tune their bikes. Compression rate doesn't really increase horsepower.

  • @moulin6
    @moulin62 жыл бұрын

    Come on guys …that’s a silly talk there….neither one of these bikes are “ entry level, specially the Aprilia! “ maybe Financially “ entry level…..Who would ever look at the Aprilia and think that ll be a great beginner’s bike !! 🤪

  • @Josh-mk7ok

    @Josh-mk7ok

    Жыл бұрын

    The trident is definitely entry level

  • @jiffinjose7541
    @jiffinjose75412 жыл бұрын

    In india trident is 7 lakhs cheaper than tuono.

  • @Agm1995gamer
    @Agm1995gamer4 ай бұрын

    Where I live Trident - 17000$ Tuono - 22000$ So far for inexpensive.

  • @markwoodhouse837
    @markwoodhouse8372 жыл бұрын

    That’s a pretty bad comparison and not comparing apples to apples, it would be better to compare the street triple 660s or 675 to the RS660, not a sports bike to a cruiser/cafe racer

  • @sjoshuan
    @sjoshuan Жыл бұрын

    I think the Aprilia is in a different category fellas and hands down a better bike…. price difference is huge and would be better compatible the street triple S…..

  • @leuvenlife
    @leuvenlife2 жыл бұрын

    An editor should know the difference between a Marque and a Marquee.

  • @Rmat7
    @Rmat710 ай бұрын

    So the more expensive and sportier bike is more expensive feeling and sportier...

  • @kirkdunn1379
    @kirkdunn1379 Жыл бұрын

    not really in same class tbh......rider has to determine what their looking for. i think people looking for either of these bikes are looking for different things.....i looked at both tbh but went KTM in the end...RS is too expensive and aprilia is as well .....trident was just a little on soft side.....dont want to be switching bikes quickly or being stuck with something kinda blah....not to mention everyone in so cal is marking up the price so MSRP goes out the window......triple RS becomes 17k OtD, trident becomes what the triple should be and aprilia comes in just short of a 1100 tuono.....price is always a factor.......the KTM had the best deals for me anyway..... wish the tuono was closer to a 800cc bike in 115-120 hp range....that would be sweet ass bike

  • @h1ko393
    @h1ko3932 жыл бұрын

    Take a shot every time they say tuono. RIP.

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.13 жыл бұрын

    Matte is cool, no arguments there, but it always needs to be an option, it’s a pain to care for long term so it sucks when you can’t choose a normal paint job

  • @cumnmrmptaaa4234
    @cumnmrmptaaa4234 Жыл бұрын

    I wonder why Triumph detuned the triple for the trident, I'm fine with 70HP, that's perfect for someone like me, just seems odd it's so much less than the old Daytona

  • @seanehly-yu4384

    @seanehly-yu4384

    Жыл бұрын

    They tuned it for the torque curve. 90% of peak torque is available from 3200rpm up, which makes for a nicer street ride.

  • @Acemechanicalservices

    @Acemechanicalservices

    5 ай бұрын

    It’s not remotely the same engine as the street triple.

  • @dernicolas6281
    @dernicolas62812 жыл бұрын

    made in italy vs some uk flags on a bike built somewhere in thailand..

  • @superstarsfastcars

    @superstarsfastcars

    Жыл бұрын

    😂😆🤣

  • @FGGiskard
    @FGGiskard2 ай бұрын

    TLDW: aprila is better but costs way more, value is probably on the trident

  • @82Bjarni
    @82Bjarni Жыл бұрын

    Too much electronics in modern bikes that makes drivers lazy

  • @motozest7856
    @motozest78563 жыл бұрын

    Unless you're very budget-conscious (in which case you should probably be looking at Japanese bikes, not European exotica), the Aprilia trounces the Triumph: it has IMU-based lean sensitive TC and cornering ABS, cruise control, bigger front discs with 4-piston Brembo calipers (2-piston Nissin setup on the Triumph), ride-by-wire throttle with five riding modes, engine brake modes, anti-wheelie, selectable engine maps, less weight, more power, more torque... It's in a whole different category.

  • @zacpdx

    @zacpdx

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's also 25% more...so it's not comparable.

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zacpdx It *should* be 25% more expensive: it's easily 25% more bike.

  • @paradiddlesixix22

    @paradiddlesixix22

    10 ай бұрын

    you are a real fanboy arent you?

  • @tokyosmash
    @tokyosmash Жыл бұрын

    More to road riding than power

  • @crewser004
    @crewser0042 жыл бұрын

    Buyer beware! My Aprilia Tuono 660 broke after 9000 miles. And now my engine has to be replaced under warranty.

  • @zoohang6963
    @zoohang6963 Жыл бұрын

    As a beginner myself I would recommend a turbo nayabusa to any new rider

  • @efremendez
    @efremendez Жыл бұрын

    I'll say aprilla is the winer

  • @hemkeshyeole4630
    @hemkeshyeole46303 ай бұрын

    India difference is both bike have 50% price , 10 lac rs trident and more then 15 lac rs tuono 660 , 😂

  • @Fee.1
    @Fee.13 жыл бұрын

    Non-pro tip…don’t say “yea Michael” it instantly serves as a shocking reminder the conversational format is still rehearsed. I get that it has to be, but no need to remind us, and nobody says the other persons name in normal non show business/news conversation. BACK TO YOU, ADAM. 😅 Now I have to rewind 3 minutes because i totally missed every word you guys said while I was typing this

  • @jpslayermayor9293

    @jpslayermayor9293

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah all that part of the exchange did was remind us that maybe all of what your saying is predetermined rather than how info comes out in the course of a real discussion

  • @Fee.1

    @Fee.1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jpslayermayor9293 agree 100% it literally zapped me out of suspension of disbelief

  • @snippidippi
    @snippidippi3 жыл бұрын

    Trident = a slow tourer for the elder bikers with affordable price Touno 660 = sport naked that's literally a rs660 with better comfort. Comparison = no

  • @Josh-mk7ok

    @Josh-mk7ok

    Жыл бұрын

    They are both sport nakeds and are both marketed as such

  • @thinkdunson
    @thinkdunson2 жыл бұрын

    good format. dude on the left needs to stop putting words in waheed's mouth, and saying things like "just to get back to..." or "where i wanted to go with that was...". not that it was particularly wrong, but just that it doesn't really flow like he thinks it does. leave those preambles and qualifications out and you'll be golden.

  • @motorbikedude
    @motorbikedude2 жыл бұрын

    Although both bikes are 660 ,comparing them is totally wrong !

  • @zacpdx
    @zacpdx3 жыл бұрын

    How is the Aprilia a "sport naked" as it has a fairing??? Also, Aprilia is one of the worst rated in reliability... These guys are schills

  • @ChrisWolf75

    @ChrisWolf75

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ya I don't get that either what the hell is a sport naked? That's kind of an oxymoron.

  • @c0dy1287

    @c0dy1287

    2 жыл бұрын

    I used to own an older Yamaha that was just a half faired naked bike and it kinda just looks like Aprilia's modern take on it, but I still essentially see a half faired naked bike, handlebars with the more upright position. I'm guessing it just sounds cooler and more marketable to say "sport naked" but I also don't really see a problem with that either.

  • @markdennis930
    @markdennis930 Жыл бұрын

    What the hell is 'approachable'? What is 'engaging'? Why would a bike be 'approachable' (meaningless) YET 'affordable'? Why yet? Marketing speak drivel.

  • @paradiddlesixix22

    @paradiddlesixix22

    10 ай бұрын

    why critique 2 words that have obvious meanings, unless you live under a rock.

  • @hwntwww
    @hwntwww2 жыл бұрын

    talking heads

  • @JimmyTheBear
    @JimmyTheBear2 жыл бұрын

    The tridant actually sounds like a hair dryer

  • @Misfit_FATDUCKY
    @Misfit_FATDUCKY2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but the Triumph is ugly af

  • @ChrisWolf75

    @ChrisWolf75

    2 жыл бұрын

    Beauty is subjective I think it looks great I get allot of compliments on mine. I guess it just depends on the person🤷‍♂️

  • @Sheltemz

    @Sheltemz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ChrisWolf75 me too, I personally think its a gorgeous looking bike as you say everything is subjective.

  • @oldschoolmotorsickle
    @oldschoolmotorsickle3 жыл бұрын

    I clicked on a Cycle World video because Adam Waheed doesn’t work there. Except that he does work there. Ditch this guy.

  • @motozest7856

    @motozest7856

    3 жыл бұрын

    What's wrong with Adam?

  • @josephsherman4913

    @josephsherman4913

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why he's not in the thumbnail.

  • @drrider1658

    @drrider1658

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hair envy? If you want to dis the guy at least give a reason.

  • @stevenwalk8564

    @stevenwalk8564

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think Adam is great!

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