2019 Porsche 718 Cayman T driven | Is this the best value Cayman? | Autocar

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  • @curttheboywonder
    @curttheboywonder4 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding review. Truly focused on driving experience.

  • @mrnicktoyou
    @mrnicktoyou5 жыл бұрын

    Good review. Love the honesty.

  • @eSysmanSuperYachts
    @eSysmanSuperYachts5 жыл бұрын

    Need to get rid of that engine

  • @danielerlandsson3965

    @danielerlandsson3965

    5 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree. Or drop price 10k for the 4-pots and give us some 6-cyl engine options.

  • @marcnobel3938

    @marcnobel3938

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@danielerlandsson3965 There will be a Flat 6. The mass model must be a little 4 banger today because of the emission standards and on top now the WLTP Test which kills the Noise of the car also. More weight thanks to more filters in the exhaust. The time of good sounding cars is running out. Sad but true ...

  • @danielerlandsson3965

    @danielerlandsson3965

    5 жыл бұрын

    Good to know. I wonder if Porsche was planning that from the beginning or if its the poor salesfigures?

  • @eSysmanSuperYachts

    @eSysmanSuperYachts

    5 жыл бұрын

    Marc Nobel As far as I know that’s just in the US

  • @marcnobel3938

    @marcnobel3938

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@danielerlandsson3965 The T Model and the GT Models with a Flat 6 was always in the plan. The poor Sales are going on for years in that sector of little Sportscars. All the brands have to deal with that.

  • @mrmarrow8918
    @mrmarrow89185 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. With reference to the 'sound it makes' - I'd argue it's absolutely integral to the overall driving experience and so would have to score it down.

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's the best sounding VW Beetle, without air cooling

  • @brianbailey7128
    @brianbailey71285 жыл бұрын

    Nice review. Thanks!

  • @dallasangler
    @dallasangler5 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or do you feel like Prosser will break out singing Cold Play's Yellow at any moment.

  • @akash-dsouza
    @akash-dsouza5 жыл бұрын

    Oh so the Cayman T is for people who like driving. The rest of the Cayman variants must be for grannies

  • @kkk-ff5th

    @kkk-ff5th

    5 жыл бұрын

    Most of them are driven by retired Gramps and nans so

  • @doughnuts5364

    @doughnuts5364

    5 жыл бұрын

    k kk that’s the 911 especially the stupid targa models

  • @Josh_0579

    @Josh_0579

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@doughnuts5364 No the 911 is for 50 year old mid life crisis man

  • @doriangray2347

    @doriangray2347

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is the most precise Porsche vehicle to drive. I just ordered a Boxster T.

  • @johnyacoub69
    @johnyacoub693 жыл бұрын

    You also can’t get that delightful short shift kit on the a regular MT Cayman or Boxster; it’s a very different feel with the standard setup, and to me, an important part of the T’s appeal. I don’t recall if I heard you mentioning it, but the seats are also an extra cost upgrade if you want o have them on a regular (or an S) Boxster or Cayman.

  • @alwynmcmath
    @alwynmcmath5 жыл бұрын

    Great review. Sound matters, so what were Porsche thinking?! Profits, perhaps

  • @nls8520
    @nls85204 жыл бұрын

    I am not sure if it is Autocar's video quality; but I think this 718 T sounds pretty good actually. I think if you wanted a new car with warranty you must be at least prepared to disregard how good they used to sound.

  • @johnyacoub69

    @johnyacoub69

    3 жыл бұрын

    doesn't bother me at all, and I've owned 5 flat-6 Porsches; loved them all, and there's no issue as to which sounds better. But again, I quite enjoy this car's sound mated to a manual, and people acting like anything in flat-6 layout is the Second Coming need to stop kidding themselves. This motor cleans up vs. the last 2.7l base motor, and has nothing to be ashamed of vs. a 9A1 S or even GTS version, in terms of performance. The short shift setup in the T is an absolute delight to use, just like my 981 Spyder; in fact, I assume it's the same hardware.

  • @rembo183
    @rembo1833 жыл бұрын

    What about the new GTS? Have you tested that yet? It costs more but you get all the handling options pus the flat 6?

  • @jedalaoui5581
    @jedalaoui55815 жыл бұрын

    I'm not okay with the 2l 4 cylinder!

  • @ts.exotics4583

    @ts.exotics4583

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's a boxer engine

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Flat 6 with blowers will happen soon.... I’d put money on it

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    5 жыл бұрын

    It’s like a subaru sti engine in a lighter body tuned by the best in motorsport porsche what’s wrong with that?

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Carlitox b I think the problem is the previous gen was possibly one the best sounding 6pot NA engines, especially for its price point! I personally would want a more pleasing sound for cost as it’s all part of the experience. It’s a gem of a engine tho just terrible sound

  • @jedalaoui5581

    @jedalaoui5581

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@carlitoxb110 No doubt the engine is great, that is not the problem. As Lee said, the previous flat 6 was such an amazing engine, making a lovely N/A noise. When you buy a premium car, you don't want an 2l 4 cylinder engine that is literally found in almost all hot hatches ( golf r, s3, A45, and so on). A 6 cylinders is always smoother, and more classy, as well as sounding better and revving higher.

  • @juststuff5216
    @juststuff52165 жыл бұрын

    I wonder if they'll ever bring the 6 back?

  • @ts.exotics4583

    @ts.exotics4583

    5 жыл бұрын

    In the gt4 they will

  • @stevecade857

    @stevecade857

    5 жыл бұрын

    Possibly the 718 Spyder as well.

  • @syedsadiq4446

    @syedsadiq4446

    3 жыл бұрын

    GTS and GT4 already v6

  • @MrNufzed
    @MrNufzed5 жыл бұрын

    Should have added one other mod to guarantee sales success and make it a veritble sports car icon like the 911; the delete 4cyl option for in-line 6 cyl motor.

  • @Cornwall1888
    @Cornwall18885 жыл бұрын

    I know it performs but £50k for a 2.0 litre 4 cylinder, nah

  • @hasanvic4853

    @hasanvic4853

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cornwall1888 and only 300hp? Fucking hell. Get a £18000 audi s3

  • @all-flat-engines

    @all-flat-engines

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hasan Ar-Rahman or pay the 10 more for the RS3 with that beautiful 5 cylinder

  • @farhan007

    @farhan007

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@all-flat-engines but then you get a nose heavy understeerer. Honestly, people who suggest a modfied golf over a mid engine low center of gravity, lighter weight, rwd sports car aren't driving enthusiasts.

  • @WeirdBrick

    @WeirdBrick

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lol couldnt agree more, nicely put!

  • @beetleything1864

    @beetleything1864

    5 жыл бұрын

    exactly - driving a flat 6 boxer is sweet - the noise the engine/compression braking - naturally aspirated - lovely - 4 banger 2.0 turbo = VW .....

  • @BlackBeanChicken
    @BlackBeanChicken5 жыл бұрын

    So h9w much price difference between a T and a base with same kit?

  • @paullucci
    @paullucci5 жыл бұрын

    As a current 2016 WRX owner, and a prospective Cayman owner, I’m divided on the sound and power. I’ve found the WRX to be plenty powerful for public roads, and the base Cayman has more power. However, I’d also love an upgrade to the sound if I’m going to be paying twice the price of my current turbo 4. This of course does not account for everything else the Porsche will do better than the Subaru.

  • @Stewwwwww
    @Stewwwwww5 жыл бұрын

    What engine is in the standard carrera? Does that sound good? Thought that was a turbo as well

  • @nirfz

    @nirfz

    5 жыл бұрын

    911: 3L Flat 6 Turbo. (Cayman 2L Flat 4 Turbo)

  • @Malc180s
    @Malc180s5 жыл бұрын

    I think it sounds pretty decent from inside actually.. It's not the sound that puts me off a 4 cylinder usually, it's the vibrations. But I guess with this being a boxer it's quite smooth? Sounds quite naturally aspirated subaru - an old fashioned thrum.. It's not the 4 cylinder bit that robs it of top end "specialness", it's the turbo bit. They could've got that 300bhp from a 2.5 4 cylinder... And I wonder if it would be any less efficient..

  • @slaWterCH
    @slaWterCH5 жыл бұрын

    3min in and I was already fed up with that sound.

  • @TCBumby

    @TCBumby

    5 жыл бұрын

    slaWterCH Hurt my ears.

  • @millipekmez577
    @millipekmez5775 жыл бұрын

    -would you like to drink a cayman tea? -yes, please.

  • @KurokoShirai
    @KurokoShirai5 жыл бұрын

    Forgot to mention that it has the 981 GT4 shifter?

  • @iLykeCahrs
    @iLykeCahrs5 жыл бұрын

    So, it weighs more than a ford focus sedan??

  • @johngalt5411
    @johngalt54112 жыл бұрын

    Not sure I could drive a yellow car but 718 looks amazing in yellow!

  • @JIMMYHIBBS1
    @JIMMYHIBBS15 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never driven a 4 pot Porker ... and have no desire to - give me a second hand 6 pot and money for fuel

  • @devilgames2217

    @devilgames2217

    5 жыл бұрын

    Previous gen gts 😚👌

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Had the pleasure of driving the previous gen then also the 718 2.0 & 2.5L they 718 is sooo much more switched on and direct, the extra torque really helps with day to day driving. But your 100 right..... 6pot NA FTW! Preferably a GTS! Watch this space tho... iv heard a flat 6 with blowers could be on the cards... 😉

  • @koolpep

    @koolpep

    5 жыл бұрын

    DevilGames wifey drives that one 2015 GTS and I love to borrow it. The best!

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    James you're not missing out on anything. The 2L is a glorified high quality VW Beetle. Laggy as hell.

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    nes suno laggy?! Really? in both the 2.0 & 2.5l there was little to no lag! Especially compared to the NA which you have to wind up

  • @rdrg7362
    @rdrg73625 жыл бұрын

    If you love driving, get an Alpine A110 or a Lotus.

  • @nicksokolis6343

    @nicksokolis6343

    5 жыл бұрын

    Rd Rg if you drive occasionally or on a track take the Lotus, if you want to drive it all the time take the Alpine.

  • @soundofeighthooves

    @soundofeighthooves

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nicksokolis6343 all the time ? in a french car ? good luck

  • @nicksokolis6343

    @nicksokolis6343

    5 жыл бұрын

    soundofeighthooves and yet millions of French family and hatchback car are going around with hundreds of thousands of miles.

  • @soundofeighthooves

    @soundofeighthooves

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nicksokolis6343 show me one ? usually they rusted to pieces below 100 k kilometers

  • @nicksokolis6343

    @nicksokolis6343

    5 жыл бұрын

    soundofeighthooves sure, if you say so.

  • @Kaipeternicolas
    @Kaipeternicolas5 жыл бұрын

    If I want a great enthusiastic drivers car, I get something N/A.

  • @Alby911

    @Alby911

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's cool to know, bro.

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sadly becoming so rare with newer cars. I’d rather pick up a older 6pot GTS

  • @jo05dk

    @jo05dk

    5 жыл бұрын

    100% agree. For the fun factor i don't want a turbo. Turbos are fine for everyday traffic and all that jazz, but that's it for me.

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    JohnnyNr5 👌🏼

  • @itaybutavia1204
    @itaybutavia1204 Жыл бұрын

    My dream car !!

  • @Pjmperez01
    @Pjmperez015 жыл бұрын

    Whats wrong with the exhaust 0:10?

  • @nadavravid1242
    @nadavravid12425 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, Dan on point, always. Second time Autocar has spliced official Porsche AG footage of the exterior with Autocar-shot interior footage. We do notice, and it detracts.

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's normal and acceptable

  • @mrt.789
    @mrt.7893 жыл бұрын

    Dan Prosser number 1 !!

  • @petercavellini3232
    @petercavellini32325 жыл бұрын

    You learn drive round flat spots, it’s a minor thing,and as you said it’s got plenty power, loads of torque, and it sounds like what it is, a tuned 4 cylinder, the noise wouldn’t be a deal breaker for me, if you want a better sound?, go to an exhaust company, you might find out though that it would be more noisy at a cruise pace.

  • @NoRevving

    @NoRevving

    5 жыл бұрын

    Peter Cavellini exhaust still doesn’t sound as good as a stock flat six cayman. The 718 is brilliant on the track, but I still prefer my older cayman and current cayman over this. Hopefully, the new gt4 corrects this

  • @aftastosk6016

    @aftastosk6016

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's not a matter of noise. This engine sounds really rough and worst of all has substantial turbo lag

  • @paulwood862

    @paulwood862

    4 жыл бұрын

    Aftastos K it doesn’t in the S - it’s a second quicker 0-60 than the old S

  • @TDS981
    @TDS9815 жыл бұрын

    Good review, enjoyed. Nice seeing a professional agreeing with all the points I made in my review of the base Boxster.

  • @VolV8
    @VolV85 жыл бұрын

    How does sound effect performance? hmmm?

  • @traphereasy7095

    @traphereasy7095

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sound is still a very important factor for buyers and I’m included in that bunch. Not paying that much for a Prius sounding car when I can get a corvette with imo the best sounding v8.

  • @DUEL.FATALIS
    @DUEL.FATALIS5 жыл бұрын

    I think the 4 cylinder is great, the sound isn’t great but the car is so fun. I’d get the GTS though or the next GT4 when it’s out.

  • @MagicAyrtonforever

    @MagicAyrtonforever

    5 жыл бұрын

    Said no sane person ever

  • @colinmorand129
    @colinmorand1295 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a Mondeo

  • @Josh_0579

    @Josh_0579

    4 жыл бұрын

    Listen to one with an ipe exhaust and say that again

  • @XR4turbo
    @XR4turbo3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for these to sink like a rock on the second hand market so I can pick one up for cheap. I always love the red-headed step children.

  • @MagicAyrtonforever

    @MagicAyrtonforever

    2 жыл бұрын

    They are selling for the same price 3 or 4 years old minues the options cost - I'd rather have a no option brand new one in the colour I want.

  • @malcolmc5964
    @malcolmc59645 жыл бұрын

    Porsche claim 4.7 for the standard Cayman and they tend to be conservative(5.1?), for £53000 you can get an S with another 50bhp? Know which I'd have if I could afford either.

  • @hypnotechno
    @hypnotechno5 жыл бұрын

    good honest review. The noise is a deal breaker

  • @steliosthemelakis9899
    @steliosthemelakis9899 Жыл бұрын

    I just hope more people will keep complaining about the engine so the rest of us can someday buy this amazing car for half its initial price.

  • @cutsomeone
    @cutsomeone5 жыл бұрын

    I would brand the T cars as the naturally aspirated better value version of the Cayman/Boxter/Carrera. The 918 optional seats, lightweight glass, door pulls, lack of stereo, short throw shifter four-wheel steer (not sure if that's optional on the cayman as well as the carrera) and other exclusive options for the T cars are beautiful; The addition of a naturally aspirated motor, priced below the base/turbo model, would completely justify the lack of power, mitigate anyone's confusion of why they need to buy the T over the base, and make clear where these cars fit in with the rest of the family

  • @MagicAyrtonforever

    @MagicAyrtonforever

    2 жыл бұрын

    But they are Turbo too.

  • @swiss889
    @swiss8895 жыл бұрын

    This or an alpine?

  • @beetleything1864
    @beetleything18645 жыл бұрын

    4 Banger - huge mistake....

  • @tuningemporium
    @tuningemporium5 жыл бұрын

    Juiced up Audi TT, and about 10k more. bring back 2 more cylinders = sorted.

  • @poman911
    @poman9115 жыл бұрын

    Why pay $77K for a flat-four? For the price of this flat-four turbo, I could pick up two Subaru STI flat-four turbo; one for commuting and one for track days!

  • @Dano-MX5

    @Dano-MX5

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes, for $77k you can buy a NA, V8 Lexus RCF. Admittedly is a grand tourer vs. a true sports car BUT the sound of the V8 is intoxicating compared to this thrashing 4 pot.

  • @paulwood862

    @paulwood862

    4 жыл бұрын

    I could buy 7 used Fiesta but I won’t. You buy a Porsche 718 for the best handling mid engined sports car money can buy. It beats the old 981 in every criteria except sound. It handles better, is faster both 0-60 and on track, more usable power whenever you want it (you don’t have to wait until 5,500 revs before you have any torque! It looks better, has 911 brakes and suspension (in the S) oh and did I mention in quicker than a base 911. Don’t worry about the noise as you won’t hear it as you would be miles back down the road.

  • @runrabbitrunracing
    @runrabbitrunracing5 жыл бұрын

    I couldn’t afford one...but if I could I’d be buying used for the 6 cylinder instead....yuck

  • @blueberrycobbler

    @blueberrycobbler

    5 жыл бұрын

    runrabbitrunracing no one cares...lol.

  • @BestCaseHypothesis
    @BestCaseHypothesis5 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like a Honda, and this is coming from someone with an S2000. I appreciate the engine noise in my S2000 because the Honda is so much less refined, however in a Porsche, I would expect different.

  • @trudiatkinson2726

    @trudiatkinson2726

    4 жыл бұрын

    trudi kasdnon bljlkmlmnll

  • @DavidDatura
    @DavidDatura5 жыл бұрын

    A good looking, fine handling car. But ever since they dropped that wonderful normally aspirated flat-6, I’ve lost a lot of interest in it. The Cayman with that flat-6 for many years was my favorite sports car on the market. The handling balance/price point combo together with that engine made it unbeatable IMHO. I would of chosen it over even a 911 back then. Not anymore unfortunately. The new 911 on the over hand seems fantastic! They seemed to have nearly eliminated all turbo lag now, and the new interior design is great. The first 911 interior that I’ve actually liked. Going back to the Cayman/Boxster range, I’m doubtful of its future going forward, they’ve really lost that magic with the turbo 4 pot engine.

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    911 has lost its soul and grown fat

  • @MagicAyrtonforever

    @MagicAyrtonforever

    5 жыл бұрын

    I've lost complete interest!

  • @techyd8411
    @techyd84115 жыл бұрын

    The Alpine is a much better prospect for the money. The engine note is, for me, 7/10th the experience - it’s what you have when you’re not blasting it along. I think I’d enjoy a quick go in this for the drive experience but that noise is a big no from me

  • @maxpowers3732
    @maxpowers37325 жыл бұрын

    I have a 2007 Cayman S and absolutely love it. Why did Porsche put a 4 cylinder engine in the new car? If anything the car could use little more power. Did a lot of Cayman drivers complain about the NA 6 cylinder?

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    Emission standards

  • @maxpowers3732

    @maxpowers3732

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nessuno5403 Emissions standards say a small sports car probably only used on the weekends has to have a 4 cylinder engine?

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@maxpowers3732 I know what you mean, it's rubbish. Emission standards say a small 4 cylinder will perform better in a lab test... and be inefficient when pushed. This world has gone mad :)

  • @maxpowers3732

    @maxpowers3732

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nessuno5403 Definitely! These are not high volume cars that get a lot of miles. They are designed to be fun to drive. I'm not going to buy a new one until it has a 6 cylinder.

  • @paulwood862

    @paulwood862

    4 жыл бұрын

    You know the 4 pot is much quicker and more powerful right?!

  • @PlanetautoUK
    @PlanetautoUK5 жыл бұрын

    That’s an impressive machine, we love the styling.

  • @jamescavalleri3282
    @jamescavalleri32825 жыл бұрын

    Waiting for the GT4

  • @vip_supercars3652
    @vip_supercars36525 жыл бұрын

    I'll buy a Cayman once it has a 6 cylinder

  • @WhereBinB

    @WhereBinB

    5 жыл бұрын

    It's called a Cayman GT4

  • @vip_supercars3652

    @vip_supercars3652

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@WhereBinB that was the previous generation Cayman, the 718 Cayman generation is just a 4 cylinder

  • @WhereBinB

    @WhereBinB

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@vip_supercars3652 Understood, so you are buying the 718 GT4 when it launches then haha - It will be a long wait after the initial customers take them all and then start putting them back on the market for a huge markup. I have the 981 GT4 and that 6 cylinder example is plenty good enough for me

  • @albertmarin2501
    @albertmarin25015 жыл бұрын

    bring the 6 cyl baackkk!!! NO TURBOS!

  • @markahomer
    @markahomer5 жыл бұрын

    Are these 718s the worst sounding sports cars on the market today?

  • @paulb7207

    @paulb7207

    3 жыл бұрын

    Of course not, Alpine with Renault Megane 1.8T engine sounds worse!

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    Sorry but no. First of all bring back 6 cyl Porsche engines to Caymam/Boxster. Second of all T should stand for really basic car with no options to choose from beside paint. Everyting for much cheaper price than other versions of 718.

  • @purplefabian

    @purplefabian

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cars will be electric anyway so even a 4 cylinder is something we should appreciate

  • @albertmarin2501

    @albertmarin2501

    5 жыл бұрын

    lots and lots of people that love cars will never ever buy an electric car (me for example and all my family). It's just a totally different kind of machine. When buying a sports car, with my well earned money, i'm looking for a sound, an engine, an experience, a chasis and a mechanical simphony that has his own soul. That's why petrol cars will never die. No matter new laws, electric future...what it matters is what custumers are ready to pay for, and real petrol heads will always be PETROL heads. Electrics cars can be used for who wants to use them for everyday use, and they also contaminate with nuclear residues and in many other ways. If they want to stop contamination, killing the best engines and sports cars is really not the way! They can start by looking at hevy industry that really really contaminates. And planes? They don't contaminate with the kerosene? Why they don't also stop them? We are where we are thanks to internal combustion engine...and now they wanna kill it? yeah wright. That's the same that 'using' the people to work all life, then when they are old and useless to work, you don't give them medicines because they cost money and you just let them die...and you replace them with new and young people, or maybe electric robots... There is place for everything, it's not the way to be so radical, it will never work to impose stupid laws.

  • @purplefabian

    @purplefabian

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@albertmarin2501 I agree I love the cars of today but there are always more restrictive regulations, now they want to get rid of diesels maybe in the near future they will ban combustion engines all together from cars.

  • @paulb7207

    @paulb7207

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@purplefabian In China, Russia, , etc. nobody gives a damn. VW group will be still selling non-electric cars in countries that value economic growth. Once the West notices the threat we will get back our engines, don't you worry.

  • @stubailey9433
    @stubailey94335 жыл бұрын

    Has it got a six cylinder engine, no. I'm out!

  • @Youtubedotcomma

    @Youtubedotcomma

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stu Bailey grab your self a Guinness and wait, flat 6 with turbos will happen and soon... 😉

  • @blueberrycobbler

    @blueberrycobbler

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stu Bailey I was just wondering what Stu Bailey thought..🙄

  • @stubailey9433

    @stubailey9433

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@blueberrycobbler I got 2 mins into this review and gave up on it, the sound of that engine. The previous gen 981 was it? That was the best Cayman yet, it had it all, looks and the sound. If i could afford a car like this i'd buy the BMW M2 comp no question.

  • @joshwalton1120

    @joshwalton1120

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stubailey9433 why watch it in the first place if you hate it so much 🤦🏼‍♂️ talk about stupidity.

  • @sknli
    @sknli5 жыл бұрын

    718T or M2 comp for daily driver?

  • @nicksokolis6343

    @nicksokolis6343

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hmm... Alpine A110.

  • @sknli

    @sknli

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nicksokolis6343 forgot to mention I'm US based, the A110 is not sold in the US

  • @nicksokolis6343

    @nicksokolis6343

    5 жыл бұрын

    SKL Then it is a tough one. I like both. If the Cayman still had the H6 then it would be an easy choice.

  • @drfubars
    @drfubars5 жыл бұрын

    Coming from the Glorious sounding 2.7 Flat 6; how could they have made such a bad sounding engine? No wonder they're coming back to a Six Cylinder for the 718. (Besides the GT4-Spyder)

  • @maxpowers3732

    @maxpowers3732

    5 жыл бұрын

    They are coming back to the 6 cylinder?

  • @paulb7207

    @paulb7207

    5 жыл бұрын

    It sounds awesome as far as 4-cylinder engines go. If sound of the car is so important to you why didn't you get V8 AMG for the price and got fart sounding 2.7 flat instead? It's the same money as V8 C63S ! So, Why??? Why settled for farty V6 when you could have awesome V8???? Unless you don't care as much about sound, you just want feel good that you didn't upgrade to 718.

  • @drfubars

    @drfubars

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@paulb7207 Paul, Obviously you' have no money to afford any of these cars. The fact that you use the word "farty V6" proves that even further. Boxsters never had V6 engines. You've never been in Porsche with a NA Flat-6 much less driven one. Thus, You aren't qualified to have an opinion on this topic. Do yourself a favor... get a job save up some cash and enjoy a nice car.

  • @maxpowers3732

    @maxpowers3732

    5 жыл бұрын

    One reason is that you like a lightweight sports car and not a heavy muscle car. Also, the MB AMG only comes with an automatic, so it's not as much fun to drive.@@paulb7207

  • @paulb7207

    @paulb7207

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@maxpowers3732 then why all the drama about the sound? ;-)

  • @shiznuts
    @shiznuts5 жыл бұрын

    C'mon with that GT4 6-cil!

  • @ramizrafique4675
    @ramizrafique46755 жыл бұрын

    BMW M2 competition is the way to go

  • @joeharris2892
    @joeharris2892 Жыл бұрын

    empty carts make the most noise

  • @Johnacles
    @Johnacles5 жыл бұрын

    The 4 cylinder makes the M2 comp an obvious decision for me, I know the Cayman is a sharper and more focussed tool but that M2 is just, well, so much fun!

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sharp and focused? Definitely not the 2L!

  • @carlitoxb110
    @carlitoxb1105 жыл бұрын

    She’s gorgeous

  • @leokal457
    @leokal4575 жыл бұрын

    This thing even weighs 15kg more than a standard Cayman in germany Outragous

  • @paulb7207

    @paulb7207

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes, PASM, PTV, dynamic engine mounts, sport chrono, sport-tex seats, 20" rims they all add weight... who could have thoght? :-) I'm outraged too, lol

  • @Anonymous-pm7jf
    @Anonymous-pm7jf5 жыл бұрын

    Flat 4? You can keep it.

  • @nowornever81
    @nowornever815 жыл бұрын

    Why would I get this over the 718 GTS?

  • @detective3728

    @detective3728

    5 жыл бұрын

    because of the purity - no radio or klima... Just you and the car...

  • @fabers92

    @fabers92

    5 жыл бұрын

    Such pure, no radio, big lightness, much wow

  • @nowornever81

    @nowornever81

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not sure if I can feel 25Kg difference; but Ive tried 718GTS and it was a hell alot of fun; it was even PDK although I like manuals; but it was lighting fast I couldnt complain

  • @shots998

    @shots998

    5 жыл бұрын

    Blue 203 You wouldn’t unless you couldn’t afford the GTS. GTS is the same car with better brakes, cooler trim and real power. $65k for a 2.0 4 banger with 300 hp is a joke.

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cheaper and lighter

  • @ibrahimsher7868
    @ibrahimsher78685 жыл бұрын

    Like majority of people, not having the glorious sound of the 6 cylinder engine is a big let down. But as it's a great drivers car, I would forgive it. Not sure about the power though.... a bit embarracing that a civic type R has more power than this Porsche. Overall I'd give it a 7/10

  • @richardwilson57
    @richardwilson575 жыл бұрын

    Sounds dreadful from inside cabin...... and £50 gs 🤦‍♂️

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    5 жыл бұрын

    Richard Wilson so you buy a car for the sound it makes 👏👏👏 you are smart

  • @richardwilson57

    @richardwilson57

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah Carlitox..... people who buy sports cars do that ..... its part of immersing yourself in the workings of the car

  • @TheTonicro
    @TheTonicro5 жыл бұрын

    alpine a110 is the answer :)

  • @cyclepath55555

    @cyclepath55555

    5 жыл бұрын

    The alpine is an ugly, rear engine, under powered car made by the french, other than that it's so,so....

  • @runrabbitrunracing

    @runrabbitrunracing

    5 жыл бұрын

    pete simpson mid engined and pretty

  • @soundofeighthooves

    @soundofeighthooves

    5 жыл бұрын

    yes if you want to drive in reverse

  • @jo05dk

    @jo05dk

    5 жыл бұрын

    I would take the Alpine A110 over the 718 any second of any day. None of them have great sounding engines, judging by the videos we all watch, but at least the A110 is a light and VERY cool looking throwback to an amazing car, it sounds less crap than the Porsches, and is a lot more likable. ..and if i couldn't get a hold of an A110, i'd take the TTRS over the 718. It may not be as great a handler, but in everyday life you at least get a great engine.

  • @soundofeighthooves

    @soundofeighthooves

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jo05dk like any good hipster would do

  • @fredericberthou
    @fredericberthou5 жыл бұрын

    It’s a better generation !

  • @iCGreen_
    @iCGreen_5 жыл бұрын

    It sounds like angry bees 🐝 trapped in a soda can

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    A fancy VW Beetle

  • @Scorpio1075
    @Scorpio10755 жыл бұрын

    Hyundai Veloster N has 275 hp and sounds better... for $30K. IMO you only buy a Porsche if you loaded it with options, like full leather interior, that's what separates it from other sports cars, refinement.

  • @Spartan168
    @Spartan1685 жыл бұрын

    pure marketing garbage.

  • @Alby911

    @Alby911

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yet you still can't afford it - LAWL

  • @Spartan168

    @Spartan168

    5 жыл бұрын

    bongmist and I’m sure you never will. Go smoke your weed, you degenerate.

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    5 жыл бұрын

    You dont get the point of this car, is not for you

  • @Spartan168

    @Spartan168

    5 жыл бұрын

    Carlitox b it’s literally no different than a well optioned cayman s. The point of this car is to have another trim level to sell to people

  • @inuyashaspet
    @inuyashaspet5 жыл бұрын

    Great honest review for disappointing car with big expectations

  • @innerhammer
    @innerhammer5 жыл бұрын

    Give me the next GT4

  • @Prodriver33
    @Prodriver335 жыл бұрын

    Porsche builds the 818?

  • @rossfripp4503
    @rossfripp45035 жыл бұрын

    Jeez that engine sounds so incredibly dull!

  • @MrBirgerB
    @MrBirgerB5 жыл бұрын

    would be fun to transplant the gt3 engine into this chassis.

  • @anumanuva2431
    @anumanuva24315 жыл бұрын

    Dunno hey

  • @And4224
    @And42245 жыл бұрын

    I think that people who love zrobimy won't buy cayman with impreza engine with it

  • @MrZekToR
    @MrZekToR5 жыл бұрын

    Anyone who buys this car is mad. It's structurally flawed. The CAST aluminium strut towers are too weak. Multiple cars are failing now. Huge cost to repair. VAG input has ruined Porsche in my opinion. Don't touch it unless you're insane!!!

  • @blueberrycobbler

    @blueberrycobbler

    5 жыл бұрын

    MrZekToR Okay, Huckleberry...🤪

  • @johnyacoub69

    @johnyacoub69

    3 жыл бұрын

    BS

  • @devilgames2217
    @devilgames22175 жыл бұрын

    No 6, no party.

  • @robinmarples5198
    @robinmarples51985 жыл бұрын

    The alpine has a better sound track and it s a 1.8 4 c

  • @nessuno5403

    @nessuno5403

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ditto the Alfa 4C

  • @MrQamsharif
    @MrQamsharif5 жыл бұрын

    chris martin reviewing cars ... cool

  • @igorbrezovic
    @igorbrezovic5 жыл бұрын

    Golf sounds in Porsche? Such a shame...

  • @zichaowang8617
    @zichaowang86175 жыл бұрын

    No, I would never consider a four-cylinder Porsche. Soulless

  • @TheRockrm

    @TheRockrm

    5 жыл бұрын

    zichao wang not even a 912 brother??

  • @zichaowang8617

    @zichaowang8617

    5 жыл бұрын

    @Jonathan Bowen *modern lol

  • @zichaowang8617

    @zichaowang8617

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TheRockrm should have said mondern

  • @Alby911

    @Alby911

    5 жыл бұрын

    You may want to get your head around the strict emission laws that car manufacturers have to abide by. Alternatively you could buy the GT3... on Forza for you at least ;)

  • @zichaowang8617

    @zichaowang8617

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Alby911 did i hurt your fragile ego?

  • @monsiuersmartypants3391
    @monsiuersmartypants33915 жыл бұрын

    mx5 nd is only .5 seconds slower to 60. and half the cost. twice as reliablel.

  • @TheIncridibleOne
    @TheIncridibleOne5 жыл бұрын

    the Cayman looks better than the new 911

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yugo they both are sexy

  • @fabers92
    @fabers925 жыл бұрын

    Pure marketing nonsense. Why not take significant weight out? This is essentially a salesman offering you a little bit of money off after you've specced a few options, not worthy of the 'T' designation.

  • @mrt.789

    @mrt.789

    5 жыл бұрын

    Niandra I agree moreover i won’t spend those money for a new car that is actually a 2015-2016 model year project with just the -20mm option compared to a used Cayman with similar specs

  • @paulb7207

    @paulb7207

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@mrt.789 It has not only 20mm lowered option (PASM), but also a few other options: differential, sport chrono, dynamic engine mounts, sport seats (sport-tex), 20" rims, etc. The idea is that if you want these options anyway, you will save money if you go with the T model. And these options are insanely expensive to start with, you're looking at 5k usd / euro just for rims and seats alone. So if someone wants these options in the first place, they can get them in the package for less money. And then have a few little things added that aren't on the options lists (like the PASM that is lower than regular 718, or the dynamic engine mounts). For the resale this may keep value better too. They have a small allocation of just three 'T' models at my dealership.

  • @ChrisDorgan
    @ChrisDorgan5 жыл бұрын

    They made it 4 cylinder thinking everyone would get on board with their old racing car heritage & also because of the Asian markets... the Asian markets crashed & no one wanted an over £50k 4 cylinder sports car that sounded like a van. At the end of the day one of the most important parts of a sports car is the sound it makes. Anything with over 300hp - 350hp (oops it doesn't even have that) and relatively lightweight is quick enough for fun driving so after that it's all about dynamics and sound and if the sounds bad it doesn't matter how well the car drives you would still feel a little ashamed everytime you parked next to a 911 or an M car or an AMG or something with some balls about it.

  • @TheTallAbacus
    @TheTallAbacus5 жыл бұрын

    Buy a used Cayman S with a flat 6

  • @stevecade857

    @stevecade857

    5 жыл бұрын

    I love these new flat4s. They're really helping residuals on my flat6 CS.

  • @waterboy1628
    @waterboy16285 жыл бұрын

    i have a flat six base cayman with pasm and ptv. i would take mine all day every day over this T.

  • @DamedFilms
    @DamedFilms4 жыл бұрын

    it doesnt sound that bad....... ppl cmon

  • @Isiblitz
    @Isiblitz5 жыл бұрын

    when the car does not sell, make a "special" model😀

  • @MagicAyrtonforever

    @MagicAyrtonforever

    5 жыл бұрын

    Which also won't sell.. Hopefully.. Then they can make proper ones with a decent engine

  • @carlitoxb110

    @carlitoxb110

    5 жыл бұрын

    Porsche made the T version for the 911 991 that car sold very good

  • @RichDunn
    @RichDunn5 жыл бұрын

    Now the 6 has gone, the M2C is really the new Cayman.

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake5 жыл бұрын

    Would never pay that much for a farty 4 cylinder. Shame. Price or engine, something needs to change

  • @Kaipelana
    @Kaipelana5 жыл бұрын

    Ug, the sound of the engine ruins it.

  • @spliff190
    @spliff1905 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't sound that bad to Me,But maybe I'm bias because I own a S-GT.And you Porsche guys love your Flat 6's,and I like them too.But flat 4's are cool as well.

  • @bimbeano
    @bimbeano5 жыл бұрын

    6:18 .... well that’s a bummer. Waiting two seconds for something to happen ?

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