2019 KTM 690 ENDURO R VS 500 EXC SIX DAYS
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No clear winner here. Bottom line if you are a really good & experienced rider you can do a lot of technical with the 690 R and enjoy the impressive capabilities on road. As an average rider the 500 is a better fit for me. With it, I can push myself and despite the maintenance schedule, this bike is very cost friendly (especially when you crash). Choose wisely according to the terrain you like to ride. They are both amazing bikes!
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Love this guy’s attitude...laughs when he crashes..Life is good👍
@johnkoko
4 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
That was great to watch man. Clearly very good riders and you both looked comfortable on those monsters. Great choice for that terrain.
I always enjoy the daylights out of your vids! I' gonna make it back over your way soon!
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
Awesome videos man, that climb and those falls at 6.29 🤙🏼
I know I’m late to party but this is f…king awesome stuff. The terrain around 4 minutes in looks tough. I’m a geezer (65) riding a Tuareg on BDR’s and I find it too heavy at critical times. I trailer from S Florida to mountains but I have to flat top it back to my car 100’s of miles when I’m done. So I’m up in the air on which one. 690-110 lbs lighter, 500-200lbs lighter. I can’t wait.
@mototrailz
9 ай бұрын
If more than 10% of road involved 690 if 90 to 100% dirt 500. Also i like the 500 so i can push my skills but if you just want to ride dirt the 690 is plenty. 👍
Some rough stuff there.Great footage.Thks.JHB-SA.
That was a genuine pleasure to watch! I am currently having the EXC 500 vs Enduro 690 R dilemma..
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
I have both now. Problem solved 😁
@G30_Jay
2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry I'm on the same boat
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
@@G30_Jay 500 is still my favorite bike of all time. You can improve faster, safer & cheaper than 690. The 500 is so playful.
@G30_Jay
2 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz atleast in Virginia they are the same price lol. so it's up to whichever I want
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
@@G30_Jay not the 500 six days edition tho
That was awesome!
Cool video. I think I would love to have both these bikes, I'm looking for something a bit lower maintenance to complement the 500 for more adventure style riding but still have decent off-road capability. Not sure what bike would be the best fit for me though. I do love the 500 😍
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Well now i know you went for the 700 Tenere and i think it is a good choice. You have a 500 single already. The 690 would have made no sense at all. Love your channel!!!
Very nice video. I see you all are quite skilled in enduro. I know the 690 is a very tall bike with 91cm seat heaigh (with stock seat). Your friend seems capable to manage the moto very well , is a tall boy?
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Michele Minucci thanks a lot. There is no tall person in this video in fact quite the opposite. Also if i were you i would focus more on the width of the seat than the actual height. 500 EXC Is 97cm but quite narrow so it works out for my 5 ft 8 body. In the end the seat height cannot be an excuse. It pushes you to be a better rider.
@cgmtv
4 жыл бұрын
I have this year model of the 690 and I’m 5’8. I use it on the city and dirt and i can tiptoe enough :D
I’m still debating between the two I’m thinking about doing 6070% highway canyons/Supermodel and the 3040% dirt single track hard-core stuff
@mototrailz
Ай бұрын
Therefore 690 if you want to do road. Tue 500 is horrible on the road
Thanks! Based on what you're saying I think the 500 is better for me
@mototrailz
3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that now Just came back from a three day trip with my 500 and I was saying to myself this is the best bike i ever owned
Cool video
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
Hello there! How is your Montana mounted to the handle bars? Thanks in advance!
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
AHTOXA zen overland company out of the UK that sells on ebay.
Which one? I have owned a 690 in the past but never been on a 500. I did all Africa on an 1190 but want to go back and do a 2 month rip up through the middle of Africa, through some gnarly Congolese jungle, I just can't decide on 500 or 690. Which one would you take? I'm 6'2 100kg, 10-15kg of gear, will likely end up doing a fair bit of road, but in the bush it will be nasty, will have to pick up the bike 10+ times per day. I really don't know...
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
Well i have both now but if you ride more than 30% on road then 690. 500 is just awful on the road
That must have been a good funny ride. Apart from the @2:40 seems you always manage to drop it quite gently. Such a dilemma between the 690 and 500. As I already have a 400 I better wait before I pull the trigger.
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Sundays Enduro Thanks. Stick to the 400 😉IMHO.
Great! Looks like fun. Where is that?
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
aLEk Sy thanks. North of Lisbon, Portugal
@__8o8__
4 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz lucky you!
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
aLEk Sy Portugal is truly off-road paradise.
great video, but the 300 exc would have been a lot less painful
@mototrailz
3 жыл бұрын
yes but not so much on the road to get to the trail hence the 500 to compete with the 690
Just Curious-why did you fall off at 2.44 you didnt give it a big handful and the turn was gentle??
@mototrailz
Жыл бұрын
New mousses lube on a wet morning asphalt
@nickg2431
Жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz ahhh i did see it spin out a bit!Nice video.I have a husky 450(amongst others) and i think your analysis against the 690 is correct.The 690(great bike) is just a little "too much" as an off road bike"What they should have built is the exc 500 chassis etc with a hopped-up 390 engine(450cc) and a decent seat,lights etc.It would sell by the bucketload,but nope......
Great video! The only extra thing you should have added was a clip of the 500 getting an oil change, while the 690 went for another ride... 690 for the win!
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
True but frankly i change my oil every 2000km (i total so far 31,000km with no issue whatsoever) and the fact that i can wheelie the 500 like it is a bicycle which is not the case for the 690 then for me the 500 is definitely the winner. Also in Morocco in big dunes the 690 was a handful… not the 500. Really depends what you do with your bike. For me i push hard everywhere off road and the 500 is the way to go but it sucks so much on the road.
Really enjoyed your video. I would always choose the 690 if I had to ride a single mile onroad. For pure Enduro I miss the Husaberg 390. Owning a 1090R, but coming from the 640 Enduro.... I wonder how a 1090 or 790 would be like on this track? Probably a nightmare ;)
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. Yes i confirm. I used to own a 1090 R not so long ago and even tho i miss it on the road i just love the do-it-all 500 EXC
@apancher
Жыл бұрын
The 1090R feels like a tank compared to the 790/890r. The newer bikes are much lighter and have a lower center of gravity. That being said, I love them all.
What’s all crashes about? Is it difficult bike to ride, difficult terrain or your skills? Just asking to see it’s the right bike to buy or not.
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
3 жыл бұрын
Bluecamaroz28 That kind of terrain with the small, loose rocks, is very tricky to ride on. No traction and the front wheel is wandering all over the place, it’s hard to balance.
@alpha-cf2oi
2 жыл бұрын
u will get used to "crashing" (thats just falling not crshing) when u start riding enduros lol
i have a 2021 690, already wanting to trade for a 500. It's difficult to jump a 690 let alone drive in soft sandpits because of the heavyweight. The 690 is king for highway and touring, but if you're more of an 'off-road' / MX enthusiast go for a 500
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
Yep exactly that and i just bought a 2022 500 exc. My last 500 exc 2019 died at 680 hours. I will fix it bit i need a new weapon in my stable. You will love your 500 guaranteed
@arhamrasool43
2 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz how many miles was that
@arhamrasool43
2 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz and what do you mean died? Blew the motor or just needs a top end?
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
@@arhamrasool43 Timing chain skipped A tooth so the valves hit the piston so top end
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
@@arhamrasool43 37000km & 680 hours
I recon if they are that close. The 690 wins on longer service intervals and comfort
@mototrailz
3 жыл бұрын
They are that close only if you are an excellent rider as said in the video. If you are an average ride then 500 exc for proper off road.
Serra Montejunto?
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
sim
Good times. I would feel better about throwing that 500 on the ground than 690
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
humzilla707 yep no doubt about that
@nomadhabit
2 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz why tho? they cost about the same, and the weight difference isnt that big??
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
@@nomadhabit 40kg difference. Trust me on that hill it took us 5 times more time to put that 690 up than my 500 and way more scratches on his
@nomadhabit
2 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz Of course the 690 is much heavier, I should have known as I did a test ride...any thoughts on the 350 exc or FE? I am a offroad noob only ridden on-road and mountain-bikes....
@mototrailz
2 жыл бұрын
@@nomadhabit the 350 for rookies is good but if you plan on doing a lot of roads to get to the trail 500 os better bit again 500 is more of a handful for technical off road than a 350.
It's not the bike , but the rider..
The 500 has service intervals every 15 hours and a rebuild at 300 hours. You would have to keep that one just for racing. It only has 1.4lt of oil in it. Thats not going to cut it if you ride it on the road.
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Technik Meister this is where most people are wrong about the 500. I do the oil change between 20 and 30 hours or 1500km because i am not racing the bike. My 500 has 450h and no sign of rebuilding. Some people get 800h + before rebuilding. The oil capacity is 1.3L but you can extend it with a billet clutch cover. Finally the amount of pleasure and ability the 500 gives me off road is worth every bit of not being comfortable on road.
@jordanJohnn
4 жыл бұрын
If you have more then one bike I could understand getting a 500 but if your riding it every day you’d have to rebuild it within 6months wouldn’t you? That is not cheap. I don’t care about oil changes but top ends are rather annoying. And sure some get 800 but I’ve heard most people start wrenching on em at around 200. My heart wants the 500 but I feel like 690 is a smarter choice if I want to ride all the time, commute, explore, etc convince me I’m wrong and id be happy.
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Jordan H go with your heart but my 500 has 500 h and no sign of wrenching so far
@Howling-Mad-Murdock
3 жыл бұрын
Jordan H Aside from the maintenance angle, and I agree that it’s not as bad as the manual states because that’s for race conditions, you have to think about comfort if you plan on long periods sat down on the road - I have the exc450 and find the seat is murder after a few hours. If the 690 has a much more comfortable seat, that would weigh heavily in my mind as an all round bike.
@jordanJohnn
3 жыл бұрын
@@Howling-Mad-Murdock Late reply but wouldn't you rather get the 500 and a better seat if that was the only concern for you
2:40 what happened dude?
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
Very good question. It was the residual grease from the new mousse install that skirts on the sidewall of my rear tire. Brand new fox jacket trashed. My Klim jacket was way more resilient.
@MALBACHinc
4 жыл бұрын
@@mototrailz ouchh, sorry for what happen. just got my enduro. Been few days. Very curious what happened 😅😅.
Wich one is faste?
@mototrailz
3 жыл бұрын
Really?!
"No clear winner" bull shit off trail the 500 exc eats that pig of an enduro.
I hate rocks
did you get a free bike to trash?
@mototrailz
4 жыл бұрын
If you dont crash you are not trying hard enough