2019 Ford Mustang 10 speed transmission tear down (10R80 tear down)
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Looking at the guts of that transmission, and thinking about the design and machine work that goes into making one, I can't believe the transmission alone doesn't cost $100K. Amazing. Thanks for showing us what's inside.
Automatic transmissions like this are one of those things that makes me believe we have alien technology on earth.
Some serious mechanical engineering with these transmission designs. SMDH over how complex and how people engineer this is totally mind blowing. As well, competent techs that can work on this are also well worth their weight in Gold!
Brother you are a dying breed just like you mentioned. You had my attention from the get-go. Great tutorial and I gave you the 👍 up.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for that
Great video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you Sir!
Good information, thanks
Good video very detailed!
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you were trying some new stuff lol
Very much appreciate you giving your knowledge out for free. Particularly at the end about shop s. Nowadays parts replacers no builders. Sad
Glad this came across my KZread feed. I have a twin turbo 2018 Mustang and it’s 10R80 messed up on its 3rd pass down the strip. It freewheeled on the launch then crunched back into gear when it idled down. Sticky tires always finds the weak spot!
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
10 ай бұрын
Everytime lol
Wow David That was a roller coaster video. I am just a back yard shade tree wrench hack since I started working at a local auto wreckers when i was 12 in the 80’s and played with saw milling and mechanics most of my life. Was watching this vid and started feeling overwhelmed with that trans. I run a 4L60e in my chevy van and a th400 in my 66 buick.I usually don’t get overwhelmed but this is my first time seeing one of those trannies. Was really feeling down on my skills watching you, then at the end your explanation of how to take that trans and compartmentalize it clicked in my head and i got it. And it is great when the pros share their knowledge freely Thanks again for the great insight Cheers .
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers as well thank you for the comments. If you ever feel overwhelmed building one holler and I'll gladly give as much information as I can.
@shortbospirit
Жыл бұрын
Well spoken Darren. I too was given confidence by watching to the end. Love David’s delivery of information, his patience, his delight in mastering the stubborn snap rings, and apparent successfully enjoying what sustains him. It’s those who share for the joy of witnessing another’s success are Gods children. That Him within each of us is how we all ascend together lifting each other. Journey Well
Check the C3 drum because it has a factory defect, the sleeve moves forward
Hi from dubai. Thanks for great information videos
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
awesome video brother
The "Bob Ross" of transmission repair. Love your calm and cool. Great video 👍👍
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter it was a very interesting transmission.
@Beemerboy324
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but he doesn't have the hair...which is probably for the best.
@rogeliolopezroque6040
Жыл бұрын
Muy buena información y bien esplicado gracias
@jessebillson
Жыл бұрын
Nah the post Malone of transmissions.
THANK YOU!!! Your advice on heat checked steels is spot on. Also, I read ULV fluid is really bad on skin...what is your take?
thanks for the tear down, Iv'e got one of these transmissions in a ford ranger in Australia, with a 2lt bi-turbo diesel engine. Fingers crossed. hahaha
Dude… I was racing that car just a week before I dropped it off. 😳
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
That's insane I'm glad we got it apart it was crispy.
@100mphClub
2 жыл бұрын
@@expressautotransmissiondav4207 I’ll have a video up soon of my race versus a ZL1 Camaro. I needed what little clutch material was left. 😂
@alejandropoblano700
Жыл бұрын
Rww
Very good video brother
Crazy, I’ve been seeing a bunch of these ford 10-speeds breaking.
This is third utube search I've done for the 10R80, this time I was looking at the Ford Ranger 3.2L diesel and NOW this video comes up... Wow. Yes I'm in the USA. I'm now glad the 3.2L is not available here.
Hey Excellent video breakdown of this tranny. And yes you are very calm disassembling. It’s beyond me why they use any O-Rings in this since it’s emerged in fluid
Great video! Have you ever used mercon LV instead of ULV?
You should talk to your Cornwell man about a good snap ring puller set. I have several.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, oNE QUESTION I HAVE A 2018 MUSTANG AND IS HAVING ISSUES WITH HARD ENGAGEMENT NO CODES, HAVE YOU HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH VALVE BODY? I DROP THE PAN AND THE FLUID IS OK NO CLUTCH OR METAL WEAR.
nice video. is it the exact same trans in the f150? any internal differences?
💯👉No chance in hell of me putting that thing back together again and it working😭.... good video.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure with some guidance you got this lol
you make me wanna tear down my trans thats a lot of insperation for me to do that lmfao badass video man
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you I appreciate that lol
What’s the roundabout cost to upgrade the clutches in 2019 mustang 10r80?
How much are you looking at for just labor? To rebuild the transmission
My 2019 F150 has been at Future Ford in Concord CA. for 3-4 weeks with a 4th gear slipping. 1st time the dealer fixed was 1st gear shifting into neutral at apprx 55k miles and now 86k miles my 4th gear slipped and 3rd started to go just before i dropped off. The trans.overheated on me twice. i called dealer to let them know and becuase no dip stick i cannot check fluid easily they checked for me and said fluid was fine.... After watching your video i see now where the clutch packs are located and have much more info to talk to dealership trans tech about. Ford warranty will only let dealer do code check program and check and code check and inspect and replace parts for code. this is BS! I will be calling FORD customer service to figure out why the techs cannot do a proper repair job the 1st time.
Geez that thing is huge! No wonder new Mustangs weigh so much.
The stator is loose in the converter by design. That is not an issue.
Master, I have one of the exact same year, only mine is a 4-cylinder turbocharger, when I put it in drive it hits and when moving the gears up it makes them very cool but when going down in fourth gear it hits a bit and I disarm it and all the clutches are like new, just notice that the converter makes a sound when moving it, any idea what it could be? thank you so much
Do you know the torque spec for the three 15mm mounting bolts in the rear of this transmission? thanks so much for any help
I completely enjoyed this tutorial, thanks, I have a 19 Ranger with this in it, yes this gearbox is problematic, it's new and has teething issues, we JQPublic are the test bed. When it works correctly it is butter smooth and at 80 mph my little 4 banger is only turning an RCH over 2 grand. Can these gearboxes be built bullet proof? Cause I really like the truck. Thanks again.
@domthedonskicks436
9 ай бұрын
They can be bullet proofed just watched a video of one the other day
Did I miss something about the torque converter at beginning
Awesome video and install video as well! Once you fill the 10r80 with the fluid where did you fill it up to? Might’ve overfilled since it feels like it loses pressure and the rpm flutters. Could it possibly be low fluid as well? Because I did put 11 quarts in it too
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
I fill mine with 7 qts first start then check. I like to idle till warm and adjust fluid as I go. I set mine at the 60 mark when at full operating temperature.
Where’s the build video!? Please! We need it! Also need info on what to do about the valve body. Thanks!
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I have a ranger raptor fitted with the 10R80 she runs fine, but if you don't drive her for several days, when you select drive it can upto 15 seconds to drive it will only creep, is this common to thease boxes, or is it a problem waiting to happen the vehicle has done 19000 miles
Very nice explanation, but tell me why any tranny would not have a dip stick? I think this is like buying a truck without a steering wheel . 55000$ dollars and no easy way to check fluid level. Thanks again.
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OK for the big Question. How much did this rebuild cost?
Isn’t it supposed to skip 2 and 4 gears under normal acceleration?
Hey, light highway on half of my 32K miles. Do you suggest getting the fluid changed? Not flushed, just drained and filter changed at then?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
How’s that E4OD bench video coming along? That thing gave you guys that chills it was so burnt!
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Lol yes it was a crispy critter for sure and it's in the works
Did u happen the check the bushing in the cdf drum? They slip and cause a ton of problems the 10r80s, 10r60s and the 10r140s do it made a ton of cash warranty on them so far
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
That's a must change part every time
What about hot spots on clutch backing plates, do you replace those too? I've currently got a 6l80 torn down that has a hot spot on the 3-5-R clutch backing plate.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
Yes hot spot replace
Indianapolis cold cold not doing and wrench snap untill April may
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Lol
I've got a 2020gt 10spd auto so far so good I'm going to replace trans fluid soon as I've done the diff so figured may as well so trans car's got 50k on it. I was curious what causes those black scuffs on the disc's that you said have to be replaced, I'm not very familiar with transmissions I just know you put it in gear and go no idea what causes these things you've pointed out. Lol
@Sic5oh
Жыл бұрын
Did you change the fluid yet,and what's your mileage? I have 76k stock, but my guy won't touch it until 100k as my cars are 80% highway with small amount spirit driving but no racing.
What? Every video I have seen says yet another bad part....the clutch hub ,the valve body ,the converter, is there any thing that was done right ?
Is this one very similar to GM's 10L90 and 10L1000 "Allison"?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
It is in a lot of ways we may do a dive by side comparison of the two
People are passing away out this business.
Hey, I don't even go here but this was entertaining as hell. What could the driver have been doing to cause that? And on every single, last clutch? Or is this maybe not the driver's doing?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
It was a mixed failure caused by several different elements.
@artnovikovdotru
Жыл бұрын
@@expressautotransmissiondav4207 Could you please tell us more what caused it? I'd like to avoid doing that to my trans.
I’m a ford service tech by trade, I’ve only been doing transmission work for about a year now and i must say this is the worst condition 10r80 I’ve seen. I just recently overhauled a 10r that had b,f,e clutches worn where the steels had hot spots. I’ve had a couple of cdf drum bushing spin and move too in the drum.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Those are always fun. I've had them grenaded and had several in with the e clutch wiped they are definitely going to be fun units in the future
I’ve seen other 10R80 tear down. In your video I don’t see an auxiliary pump behind the filter. Is this a normal configuration?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
11 ай бұрын
No start stop function on certian 10r family.
@josefrodriguez7441
11 ай бұрын
@@expressautotransmissiondav4207 thank you for the quick reply. Great information you passed along. Even a novice like me understood it. My Ford Explorer ST is currently at the dealership with slipping, jerky gears. I don’t abuse the SUV therefore I’m hoping it’s a solenoid issue and not something more internal.
Is there a reassemble video for this trans?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
We don't currently have one but one is in the works
Would a transmission cooler off of a raptor or police vehicle helped keep,this trans alive? I have a 22 F-150 with the 5.0 and 3:73 full towing package. NO upgrade on the cooler.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
I honestly think it would make a huge difference..
@CactusJack252
Жыл бұрын
No trans cooler with the max tow package?
That looks like a job that would take me a whole lot of cussing 🗣
I think this person did a Mexican roll all the way to Mexico
@express thinking about getting a 2.7 f150, are these 10r80s reliable ? man these trucks are expensive
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
So far they have been. I have seen some issues with the f clutch housing as well as a few other things but overall they have been great.
@diulaylomochohai
Жыл бұрын
thanks for the insight. great content.
Lots of hotspots… burnouts?!
I know this is a 10r80, but how many actual gears does it have? Doesn’t the torque converter have anything to do with the number of gears?
@scarletboa
Жыл бұрын
From what I understand, it's a 5-speed with a splitter for 10 ratios. The torque converter has nothing to do with the number of gears.
Where exactly are the gears in the transmission? I see a whole bunch of clutches and the planetary gear. I have a F-150 with one of these and it's been one of the best automatic transmissions I have ever experienced. The 8 speed in the rams and chargers are top notch as well.
@edwardmyers1746
Жыл бұрын
The "gears" are the different results of planetary gearset manipulation. Planetary gearsets have 3 main parts, the ring gear, the carrier & the sun gear. The input usually comes in via the sun gear, and the output on the ring gear. The clutches are responsible for either holding, or releasing the various parts of the planetary. You really need to see it in motion to understand fully. But it's all about power flow, how it's being sent through the transmission, which planets it is or isn't flowing through, which thus creates a gear ratio.
@josephpuchel6497
Жыл бұрын
My friend has F150 5.0 with this trans and he used it like a F250. Now it needs a tranny.
Can we just make manual transmissions mandatory?
Are these bad transmissions or are the issues only related to boosting power of the car?
@wildman1137
6 ай бұрын
It's because it's modified with 300 more HP than stock.
Being that I have a 2019 GT, it concerns me to see all these transmission teardowns in cars that are only two or three years old. WTF?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Sadly it's becoming more and more common .
@edwardmyers1746
Жыл бұрын
it's the result of throwing a bunch of power adders on the motors to already high octane cars and doing zero to help support the rest of the car. Or its people messing with the tuning and transmission who aught not to be, but neverthless, can't just increase power by 30% give or take and not do any work to anything else. No one builds anymore, they just slap something on the motor crank it up and break things.
@alex9351
Жыл бұрын
If you watched the video where this trans was removed from the car, he mentions it has an edelbrock supercharger on it so stress on the trans is far from factory design.
Good to see the 6R80 lead frame gone :lol:
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
Lol
Taking this transmission apart is likely eating that grissly piece of steak, the more you chew, The bite just keeps getting bigger and bigger.
I don't know what would convence me to own Ford's Very possible ...but I been with GM like bananas many years ect
@jerrymorgan2769
2 жыл бұрын
I don't have a auto income I've earned not one cent in Costomer repairs..Retired Machinist interest in technology
@ivory_mkz
2 жыл бұрын
This transmission was co-developed between gm and ford so there’s no real win win here with gm vs ford
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Lol true story
I thought these 10 speed mustangs were god and were bulletproof according to everyone who had them. The trans is good for 1200 hp lol.. people are insane or don’t actually hit the gas on their car if they think this will last.
The real problem here seems to be the driver burning out and over stressing the transmission. I see these sorts on the road and im always like enjoy your 4k dollar repair bill here in a few months.
Would you say if needing an auto for a mustang gt just stick to the 15-17 6r80? Cause it seems like these 10r80s can't handle anything past bolt ons. Even that seems debatable.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
I prefer the 6 for bigger power I personally don't think there's enough aftermarket support for the 10 yet
@thomaszinsavage2959
Жыл бұрын
@@expressautotransmissiondav4207 Yeah, I been looking for a Coyote and honestly all of these 10r80 issues have me just wanting to pass on the 18+ and just be happy with the 15-17. Would you say just get the 15-17 at this point? Also, are they that much slower?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
Not with some add ons lol
@carlife_710
Жыл бұрын
@@thomaszinsavage2959they’re slower for sure. You can go e85 stock fuel system on gen 3. Its worth it, the 1080r is decent for bolt ons. If you have the money to go past that idk what the issue is if the trans fails. You got money
Who makes that tear down table? That’s nice.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
10 ай бұрын
I bought this one from cornwell tools
@jakekirven9922
10 ай бұрын
@@expressautotransmissiondav4207 Thanks for the reply! I’ll be hitting up cornwell. Great videos btw. Keep it up.
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
10 ай бұрын
Thanks
how the hell do you know how to put this thing back together? lol. i own a 10r80 And i hope I never have to go through this. what does a service like this cost?
I agree it is a dying industry. its called work , technicians are a dying breed, were screwed.
Can't they put a aluminum pan first screw up. With that much destroyed my as well get a rebuilt unit from Ford. Or a new one. Once the converter lets go it's over for the rest. Trans lines need to be cleaned new cooler just a mess. They don't need more than a a good 4 speed trannie. A converter on my drag car went out silver oil. Took me 2 weeks on and off to get all that crap silver oil off everything. Should have just junk it and start over would have been quicker. With many new tranny parts today with labor cheaper to buy rebuilt unit from the factory. I new when they came out with that 10 speed it was going to be a mess.
I’m hoping this car was used to just spin at red lights because that’s scary
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
Was used for drag racing primarily
If I Just showed up at your shop and started to r&r transmissions would you kick me out lol?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Nope if you show up everyday I pay pretty good
@zenenmorales778
2 жыл бұрын
Where you located.?
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Baxter springs Kansas
As much as you pay for these new cars, it pisses me off to see them using cheaper materials. Plastic trans pan?? Damn...
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
It's insane what's being made from plastic now
David, didn't your momma ever tell you to close the drawer after you get your utensils? See if you had, you would have never gotten fluid in the drawer. Listen to your Mother. lol
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
2 жыл бұрын
Bhahahahah true true
@billmonroe8826
2 жыл бұрын
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@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
Lol I was gentle
@williamrobb2232
Жыл бұрын
Not if you’re judging by how much she squirted…
@expressautotransmissiondav4207
Жыл бұрын
Lol that was good nicely done.
@williamrobb2232
Жыл бұрын
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