America has really stepped up the car game from the GT350, hellcat, ZL1 ,viper, C7 its a great time to be an American car enthusiast .

@shaunmcinnis566

Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, and a great age to just be alive.

"It...went blank." Some seriously sophisticated testing equipment you've got there......

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, just like the Grand Tourer we spare no expense to bring you the most technically accurate videos. In fact out budget is about $3 million per episode. Sorry, that's the Grand Tourer again. Our budget is $30.00 per episode.

@samaysahoo3494

7 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car HAHA

@lfsracer79

7 жыл бұрын

Perhaps you mean the Grand Tour?

Great video as always guys. I thought the ad in the middle was well done too. Short and quick and to the point. Very classy and didnt come off as pushy

Great video TFL, corvette grand sport is my next car. Well built and solid car.

@shaunmcinnis1960

Жыл бұрын

Same here Ozzy. Why can’t you buy me one…lol

I personally didn't realize why Chevy originally produced the Grand Sport Trim/Model, but after watching this video I understand! Great production guys

i remember when the GTR you guys tested got a 4.5+ 0-60 time and people flipped out. guys these are not prepped surfaces, these are real world tests done in the most non-optimal conditions. sure motor trend gets 2.8 for the gtr and 3.4 for the GS,, but thats after 60 launches on a sticky drag strip with a 1 foot roll out all weather corrected.

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the thoughtful comment!

@coureurdebois

7 жыл бұрын

np :)

@george8718

7 жыл бұрын

The tail lights are so bad😹😹😹😹

@coureurdebois

7 жыл бұрын

thats it?

@bigden2755

7 жыл бұрын

*that's have to substract 10 points this time.....

I hope you guys warmed up the tires, at least a little.

Super cool vid !!!!!

The TFL got there own talking stig!!

Vette's rules

Why are they testing a sports car with summer tires in the winter on a cold track, then calling it a "handful" at the limit?

It didn't start counting until he was already few feet out. Nice.

Very impressive. I think you'd have a much faster time if you weren't testing it in cold conditions. I have the Michelin Super Sports on my car, and under 50 degrees the grip starts falling off quite a bit. Too bad it can't be tested again in warmer conditions until probably next year. Great review, as always!

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

once warmed up they are fine, I am careful about getting them to proper operating temps before attempting a hot lap

great car!

im not a chevy person myself but it looks not half bad and the specs prove most of the cars information

i would love to see weather conditions noted on track times...looked very cold out there for this test which will really hurt traction.

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

only true if the tires are cold, I warm them up and they are fine and operating at full grip.

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

that doesn't matter, the tires molds around the surface to produce grip not the other way around. As long at the tires are up to temp they work. It can get so cold that you can't keep them in the working temperature range then you have an issue. The manufactures recommend above 45 for Summer tires on the road because in the real world you don't have them warmed up so the grip suffers for that first stop or swerve, they would be fine if you tried it again because they would now have some temp in them but you don't have second chances on the road (so that's why they have the 45 policy). It was right around 45 anyway that day.

@seantaylor2683

7 жыл бұрын

They also test at about 1 Mile above sea level, so the cars they test are always going to be slower than say Motortrend because MT is based in LA which is on the coast

@FrontSeatDriver

6 жыл бұрын

My car definitely beats that time. Only time I've been close to that was when it was nearly 100°.

Yup, I've heard that from a few professional drivers now. The Porsche is just a better balanced more predictable chassis. One of them said never turn of stability control on the corvette because it would bite you. Oh well its still a cool car.

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

I can elaborate a bit further here, the car obviously has monster tires and grip and vs. a Porsche (or Ferrari, McLaren etc.) Corvettes don't feel as torsionally stiff, the chassis feels like it flexes so with all the grip as you load it up you are winding up the chassis as well and that makes it suddenly unload. It doesn't transition from gripping to sliding as slowly, smoothly or predictably as so other cars, it also lacks granular feel. The Viper is very similar with the Viper having even less feel than the Vette but a stiffer *feeling* chassis. All just my opinion FWIW. They both punch above their weight for lap time (performance) per dollar but there are real reasons they cost less and feel/predictability are what they miss compared to the much more expensive European stuff.

Excellent! The Best C7 ever!

Tires, tires,tires. It looks like it was cold at the track. The C7 comes with michelin summer tires that harden alot below 40-45 degrees F. Did Paul do successive back to back laps to get them warm? I have a 2014 (Z51) C7 that I had to change the tires to Continental all season tires to drive in cold weather without chattering and skating in corners. Would Paul break his own record if you test in warmer weather?

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

great point, I took special care to get them to and keep them warmed up

Special request, in the future can do a hot lap top up and top down? I'd really like to see the difference in drag and chassis rigidity. I'm sure Paul will have a lot of insight to give Thanks AA

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

you are right though it wouldn't really be a measurable difference

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

+Andrew Adlen will do

definitely a hot ride visually and on the track and road.

I never did get used to the design.

Why not test a GS/Z07? Especially since you’re going for lap times.

what was the car that set the record? pourche what?

they should have made an engine special to the GS, for the C6 there was the Base = 6.2 LS3.... GS/Zo6 = 7.0 427 LS7.... ZR1..... 6.2 LS9

This should be the GS with the Z07 package, michelin cup 2 tires would have had the car the track at a significantly better time...plus the ceramic brakes would have added some as well...convertible, really...

Hey Roman, have you gotten over your fear of elevators?

@mattra5224

7 жыл бұрын

The Car Crazy Guy -scterka- what

Times have changed. Vettes and Vipers dominating tracks. Not just a tremendous value a world class car.

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

unless you want good feel, still have to head overseas to get that

$$$$ HOT $$$$

The grand sport is a better balanced car when compared to the Z06 I have driven both the grand sports more fun to drive.

@cali2468

7 жыл бұрын

Frank Simpson Only if you wear women's underwear and are scared of big horsepower like yourself. lol

The lap time difference between a 2016 VW GTI and the 2016 Golf R is only about 3/4 second?

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

yep, GTi handles much better, R understeered everywhere

If you guys can try to get your hands on a Viper ACR please

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

+codeman1979 Yes, we have been trying for some time.

You can tell the temperature out there is cold. By their jackets of course and their noses are red by the end. The grand sport comes from the factory with SUMMER ONLY tires...I wonder how good it would do on the same track when its 80-90 degrees!

@jaikarchatha1967

7 жыл бұрын

adam s that a good point. summer tires in the winter come on TFL. but also (and don't get mad for saying this) a automatic might also help the lap time. but auto vs manual is preference.

You guys really need to relocate or test somewhere near o sea level. I like everything else you do testing wise, but the performance data is so skewed.

is it me or did he miss a shift from 2-3 at 3:57....looks like he went from 2nd, tried 3rd, said f'k it, couldn't get it in then went to 4th. On a couple of 1/2 mile runs I messed up the 2-3 shift, pissed me off, my last run I really had to concentrate to make the shift which cost me a tiny bit of time.

it looks sexy in yellow and fast af

I might put a Dale Earnhardt Jr decal on the grand sport corvette.

sweet

Now, test the faster automatic!

Spongebob's voice: I don't need it....... I don't need it................ I definitely don't need it.

Put a Z06 on there and I bet it would probably get 100

C’mon that 0-60?? I’m assuming it was pretty cold since you’re wearing a coat. My guess no traction.

good job. did this vette have the z07 package

@DeeboComing

7 жыл бұрын

Kreso Ticak I don't even think the z07 package is offered for the convertible.

@kresoticak5146

7 жыл бұрын

as odd as it seems they do offer it. Nice that gm gave you one to test it would be nice to see if they will lend you a coupe with the z07 I bet it gains 2 seconds a lap.

@DeeboComing

7 жыл бұрын

Indeed.

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

no

More Hot or Not!

my GC SRT does 4.4 sec 0-60 everytime you launch it. Something is wrong with this test.

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

+NoNegotiations are you at a mile above sea level?

@luisbarraza9709

7 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car his GC is AWD and he is probably at sea level.

@NoNegotiations

7 жыл бұрын

Not a mile, about half a mile. It is AWD, I give you that. But I have to say, rewatch the vid and see that the counter doesn't start counting, up 'after' you had some wheel spin, re-due 0-60?

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

just thin air, that's all, watch our other videos in this series and you will see the pattern, It's very real.

@joehernandez8650

7 жыл бұрын

NoNegotiations they spun the tires and considered it as it's time.

Disappointed it was a standard... even more let down it's the convertible. Those two things on a 0-60 review? C'mon.

The convertible is slightly heavier than the coupe.

Where the viper

Why do they always test in terrible conditions? Like seriously, every test is in high altitude...why?

5:17 seconds?! Professional Driver?!

@jaikarchatha1967

7 жыл бұрын

tmat04 un preped surface and a mile above sea level. also it was a one take and not a perfect launch either. motor trend and the manufacture set up properly and use around 60 to 80 runs

@Dan-cj9yg

3 жыл бұрын

Also a stick. Even Chevy says the automatic is .3 faster...with the best driver and best conditions....probably more than half a second different to a normal person.

I think I could go sub-1 minute in my Stingray

terrible launch for 0-60... I thought that thing was supposed to be in the mid 3's

Paul you know the lenth of the track?

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

it's about a mile

@WEIMYBIMMER

7 жыл бұрын

the z06 will do it in a minute,is a short track.

If he didn't have to shift, he'd be a better driver maybe

Not a bad 0-60 but slightly slower than my '66 F250. It would be fun to take the '66 there to do a full blown comparison inc the gauntlet and the loaded and empty mpg tests. Along with a lap on the track of course just to see how it compares with other vehicles tested. And my truck only has a small 6 cylinder . .

@3rdGenGuy

7 жыл бұрын

what part of 1 mile above sea level do you NOT understand?

@randysrestoration

7 жыл бұрын

do you DO NOT. That would be 5280'. Looks like you are the one not understanding. LOL

@3rdGenGuy

7 жыл бұрын

EcoBoost EngineSwap they said several times in their vidoes, "1 mile above sea level" What part of 1 mile above sea level do you not understand?

@randysrestoration

7 жыл бұрын

And what does anything I said have to do with "1 mile above sea level"? I see you edited out the "do you DO NOT" LOL

@joehernandez8650

7 жыл бұрын

EcoBoost EngineSwap lol really it's 3.6 seconds, his dumbass spun the tires since he's not a professional that knows how to launch a car

theres more difference then a missing supercharger the grandsport is a much better overall car the best vette

The auto is so much quicker. You really think you are faster than a computer. And why use the sheep in the wolf outfit?

Paul Gerrard, you were not happy about my and another viewers comments about the incorrect lines you took with the Hellcat. Yet, here you not only take the incorrect lines again, you drift the Corvette around the corners. You do realize drifting is not the fastest way around a corner and is in fact an indicator of the incorrect line for the vehicle?

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

+David Peterson David, yes we all realize that drifting is not the fastest way around a track. We did special drifting shots for your viewing pleasure. But nothing will entertain you. Will it? Have you driven IMI track before?

@davidpeterson6147

7 жыл бұрын

The Fast Lane Car drifting is entertaining to watch. I have thousands of miles driving on the autoban at speeds in excess of 150 mph and 20 years of Police work involving high speed driving with zero accidents over 20 years. You will not find many accident free Cops with 20 years or more. Thank you for the response but this car is capable of better times. This was a great video, I gave it a thumbs up but I could not let this time go without some critique.

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

Thanks David, it's hard to tell watching a video and appreciate your feedback. I also respect your training. I trained the police trainers nationally for years at the Bill Scott Racing School at Summit Point West Virginia, I may have trained your trainer. Even if what you say about my driving is true (and it's not) it's all relative right? Think about it, I drive them all the same so to say you think the outright lap time could be quicker is irrelevant, it is how they compare one to the other since we are the only people who set lap times on this particular track. I have also checked correlation between our track and others and the cars land where they should one relative to the other (I invite you to check the correlation yourself). I do slide in the first third of the turn on the hot laps...it is faster, if I slide it enough to go tho correction (past center with the wheel) I have slide too much and lost time. This is stuff I never taught to the police trainers, it has no relevance to pursuit driving but when I teach race car driving you will find it is consistent at every pro racing school. It's a different level appropriate for the track. Hope it makes a bit on sense and keep the questions coming and I will try to answer clearly. Sorry for this one being so long BTW!

0-60..... 5.1 ???? wow... that's amazingky slow.....

@chronodriver

7 жыл бұрын

I personally recommended we stop doing the 0-60 runs, the amount of comments we get questioning the slow times DUE TO THE HIGH ALTITUDE is maddening, how many times has it been explained by now? The other on is the temperature and the tires IT IS OK TO RUN SUMMER TIRES BELOW 45 AMBIENT DEGREES IF YOU GET THEM WARMED UP INTO THEIR OPERATING RANGE...there I feel better, sorry for the rant. Oh wait one more thing: READ THE COMMENTS BEFORE POTENTIALLY POSTING THE SAME QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED ALREADY...OK that's it for real this time, we do love all of the participation don't get me wrong, just want it all to be interesting and not repetitive. Thanks everybody

Cars today i look at it like this. European cars are like the todays fighter planes. Designed and built in wind tunnels, extremely complicated and can almost fly themselves. They can do incredible things for people with little to no talent. American cars are like old p51 mustangs. beautiful but sometimes wierd looking, extremely simple, and you better know what your doing. Two ways of doing things but with the same results. scalpel vs an axe.

5.1 second ! Wowwww just like the stock wrx from 1996 😂

@hunterbasselite6826

4 жыл бұрын

It’s a mile above sea level lol .. if you’re at sea lvl , or atleast 200 or below sea lvl .. the c6 GS is 0-60 is 3.6 seconds

@SUBIESAMURAI07

4 жыл бұрын

Hunter Basselite listen . I own the Grandsport c7 2019 automatic . 3,6 my ass . Even my z06 C6 plays with the Grandsport like it’s Peugeot 206

@hunterbasselite6826

4 жыл бұрын

PRIDE are you above sea lvl ? My 2017 camaro ss , does 3.7 0-60 on “draggy” .. has Exhaust and CAI , and LT headers .. stock says it’s 4.0 0-60 which I believe .. so the corvette has to be a tad quicker

@SUBIESAMURAI07

4 жыл бұрын

Hunter Basselite today I put x-pipe headers CAI . Next week I have a tune . So you think after tune 30 whp???? Or you think more ??

@hunterbasselite6826

4 жыл бұрын

PRIDE with a lt1 6.2 , on 93 you’d see about 25-30 wheel .. on 🌽, you’ll see about 40 wheel with just a tune alone

GM HIGHLY recommends that you DON'T take the convertible to the track.

@TFLcar

7 жыл бұрын

+Blake Patterson You sure about that? This sounds like urban legend as GM gave us this car to specifically test on the track.

@dan4932001

7 жыл бұрын

Blake Patterson GM was talking about the Cavalier convertible...😀

@coryr9938

7 жыл бұрын

The convertibles are structurally identical other than the obvious top. The frame and structuring is done completely in the bottom of the car, so there is no rigidity difference between the two.

@SherylNomeFairy9

6 жыл бұрын

Cory R you are a corvette

@pseudosmith4979

6 жыл бұрын

Blake Patterson KZread recommends you do not listen to random douchebags.

LT1 motor.....did nobody catch this? I'm no modern C7 expert but I'm pretty sure the LT1 was the C4's better engine after the L98, the 93-97 4th gen Fbody engine, and in 1997 the LS1 put the LT1 into the crate motor only part of the parts catalog. Come on guys edit this shit out and delete my comment.

@makstone

7 жыл бұрын

Jeff Deal It has nothing in common with the C4's old motor. It's all new and indeed called the LT1.

@TotalMCAddict

7 жыл бұрын

Its just a re-run with the name. Engines are not related.

The racing yellow is ugly compared to velocity yellow !!

so early

Corvette before GM got on their bullshit and turned it into a cheap imitation Ferrari

Too expensive for how unrefined it is. Having to fight the car all the time when approaching the limits is fine for a much cheaper car, but not when you're starting to get into Porsche price territory.

the car looks juvenile

@Scorpio1075

6 жыл бұрын

Get a Chevy SS before they're all gone.

Stick to trucks.

Tell ya what, come drive it in Michigan, It all started here Detroit Motor City. Thanks to our past Presidents and elected officials all the jobs are gone and back to what I'm saying.. drive these on Michigan roads, you'll hit a pot hole every 50 yards because again our dumb ass elected governors cannot seem to ever fix our roads! Sure because it's industrial area and it has winter storms every year but so does Ohio, Indiana and many others.. The only damn Great thing left in Michigan is our Great Lakes, at least every walleye out there hasn't bellied over dead yet.. yet. Oh yeah, after someone dumb enough to buy a beautiful beast like these Vettes they'll need to get use to fixing the repairs, because alls these Michigander officials just patches holes instead taking notes from other States.. My rant of the day.. #NeverSurrenderYourGuns #ThankAVetAndPunchASnowFlakeToday