So let me get this straight. GTR is more comfortable, more stable and balanced, faster 0 - 60, faster quarter mile, faster lap time even though it is less powerful, heavier and apparently doesnt brake better than the Z06. Well, call me crazy but the GTR is really something out of the ordinary.

@vernonprice5986

9 жыл бұрын

Looks like you didn't watch the whole video. The Z06 brakes better, grips better, has higher skidpad numbers, much faster figure 8 test and in the real world on a drag strip runs 10.8s @ 127 which is faster than any stock GT-R. And then there's the price, which is $50k less than the Nismo GT-R, and that is INCLUDING the Z07 package and all the optional aero, and the highest trim level.

@scyther6666

9 жыл бұрын

Apparently I did. GTR grips better where as the ZO6 is tail happy. He even drove with one hand, what does that tell you. I mentioned Z06 brakes better and real world ? You mean taking it to the track and the GTR comes first, taking it to the streets and it beats the Z06. The drag strip is where we ll find out what the driver is made of. Still, the GTR beats the Z06.

@vernonprice5986

9 жыл бұрын

scyther6666 The GTR grips better where, exactly? Not on the skidpad or in the figure 8, that was already established and you should already know that if you had actually watched the video. And real world means some average guy with a Z06 brings it to the drag strip and runs a 10.8 @ 127. Not a pro driver or even an auto journalist. And again, no stock GT-R is that fast.

@scyther6666

9 жыл бұрын

Vernon Price Lol. Are you honestly going to argue with me over whether an AWD has more grip than a RWD? GTR was faster in the lap time because you could push it further in the corners and it was faster in the straights. 9:09 he said its very stable (meaning it sticks to the road, again meaning it grips the road better). 11:07 He said dont try that in the vett. I wonder why. Perhaps because he felt more confident driving the GTR as he knew where the car was going. Faster figure 8 didnt give it the edge you so desired. And where are you getting the 10.8 figure?. Its 11.4 @ 124.4 in this video for the ZO6.

@vernonprice5986

9 жыл бұрын

scyther6666 Are you honestly going to argue with the instrumented testing done by Motor Trend? Watch the video again if you're confused. Pay attention to the skidpad and figure 8 numbers. The 10.8 figure is from actual timeslips from regular people on the drag strip.

That Corvette is the most American thing I've seen, and I've see a bald eagle eat a t bone steak... at a Willie Nelson concert... in Texas.

@stephensmith8812

8 жыл бұрын

While sipping jack Danials Tennessee whiskey.

@gmansplit

8 жыл бұрын

+drewditty You forget that the t-bone steak was sitting on the back of a lifted ram 3500 diesel, with a pair of truck nuts and a cross hanging from it.

@drewditty

8 жыл бұрын

+gmansplit hahahaha!

@JerryLee..

8 жыл бұрын

Funny. Thanks for the laugh.

@octane520

7 жыл бұрын

The Dodge Viper ACR is the most American thing with 13 Track Records

Carlos, if you don't think the Z06 is the better looking of the two, I don't think I can trust your taste anymore :P

@RonPaulBot1234

9 жыл бұрын

Really the Z06 seems like a children's car I can see a smiley face there, with a big mouth, a nose and 2 eyes the leds on the lights even make it worst. It looks like the movie "Cars" especially the red protagonist. GTR looks more professional, slim, serious, powerful and it's harder to see a face.

@jamesfilosa6277

9 жыл бұрын

Woo Cheol Shin - I object! If you don't "understand" (which really means AGREE), you're probably not British or brainwashed by Top Gear. I think it's ridiculous that Aston Martin and Jaguar should be synonymous with pretty and classy. IMO, the new XE looks terrible. Aston Martin is always described by the Brits as "old school" but really it's just old.

@LZKS

9 жыл бұрын

James Filosa LOL, yes it does. It's not just the Britons who like Aston and Jag designs. It's pretty unanimous world-wide, spare the children and heavily biased car enthusiasts.

@LZKS

9 жыл бұрын

mugdays Oh, come on, it's just a youtube comment. Having name-called, I do believe "beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

@jamesfilosa6277

9 жыл бұрын

Woo Cheol Shin - If it's unanimous worldwide, why aren't Aston and Jag selling more cars? It's because the world prefers Porsche, Ferrari and Lamborghini for that kind of money.

Later they discovered that one of the rear wheels on the corvette was out of alignment. That is why it lost.

@jader4913

Жыл бұрын

@@Well_be_right_back really? because the laptimes are: Corvette C7 Z06: 1:25:00 Nissan GTR Nismo: 1:25:7

@WindyCity1992

Жыл бұрын

​@@Well_be_right_back The Nismo isn't beating a Z06 On Track. Stop it. It was 3 Seconds slower at Laguna Seca

@user-360johnn

11 ай бұрын

Source

@PetrolheadAEHG

10 ай бұрын

This video was launched in February 2015 and the Z06's lap at Laguna Seca in Best Drivers Car was launched in September, and that was when they discovered the overheating issue with the Z06. I assume the reason why this was so slow, is because of overheating, that alongside the wheel out of alignment could explain that big gap with the GT-R

@MrDanimal77

9 ай бұрын

​@WindyCity1992 yeah that " driver" was sure whining alot for a track car driver

The GT-R Nismo won because it is a more consolidated much more thoroughly developed package. It is evolution upon evolution. The Z06 just needs more development time, the pieces are are there but they haven't clicked into place yet. Also manual verses twin clutch auto.

@hoebywan

9 жыл бұрын

***** A considered and erudite response, I shall have to consider all the lucid points you raised carefully. :)

@hoebywan

9 жыл бұрын

You can say that but do you deny that over time and development performance usually gets better in cars, especially the likes of GT-R, Corvette and Porsche and similar performance marques? I love almost everything about the Z06 and look forward to it's inevitable development into a better performing package. Also thanks for the more lucid reply this time. It's nice to know you do have a brain somewhere in there. :)

@hoebywan

9 жыл бұрын

***** Also at 52yrs old how much is a 911 past it's life cycle? :P Development Henning, developement.

@hoebywan

9 жыл бұрын

Yep and it's got faster hasn't it., Thanks for proving my point that's really generous of you. This particular generation the C7 and the current Z06 is far less expensive than the GT-R as well as having less time and money spent on it's development so far. So again I say these are the key reasons for a shortfall on the track. Plus manual verses twin clutch auto. :P

@wadesloan

9 жыл бұрын

david j h I don't think the Vette would've been that much faster in the auto. At least not 1.5 sec faster

First episode i ever saw of head 2 head. Glad its still here :)

That z06 looks and sounds so beautiful .

Not even a comparison. And I actually like the GT-R. The Corvette is just better in the real world, but the the tuner GT-Rs are no joke.

@samuelharding257

Жыл бұрын

I do agree. I have seen some crazy Z06/ZR1 builds but not as common. I have a C7 Z06 and I absolutely love how it is stock and I think that may be why

@StanMarshImportSHITondomestic

Жыл бұрын

The gtr is the better car

@MrDanimal77

9 ай бұрын

​@@StanMarshImportSHITondomesticsaid no one ....ever

I'm a Vette man, and I give the head to head victory to tge GTR. People need to stop being fanboys. BUT, the margin is so narrow, it comes down to preference. I'll also say this, the Z06's gears are taller, so a simple gear change would leave the GTR in the dust, but even then, you'd have to be a really great driver and not make ANY mistakes, as the GTR can be driven by grandma and beat the Z06 with a novice behind the wheel. You cannot say which is truly better. It all comes down to preference. Give me 1/4 million $ to spend on a car, and I'd have one of each. These are BOTH winners. If you REALKT wanna be anal, and include orice, of course the Z06 wins, as a change in gear ratio would be marginal at best, so you really can't judge it by speed, but in an average race, my $ is on the GTR. In a modified race with experienced drivers, I'll take the Z06. My prefetence? I'd take the Z28 with hp and torque upgrades over both, then you'd have both cars fused into 1, and there'd be no need to have both. Give me $100 grand, Z28 ftw. Spank em both.

@TheAlienilluminati

9 жыл бұрын

plexoer I agree with you, but if price usn't a factor, or if you just judge it car vs car, my money in a bet goes to the GTR. I'd buy a Z28, pump 1000 horses out of it, and slaughter them both and have change left over to put on a gas card. No replacement for displacement.

@backdoorbubbabrown3189

9 жыл бұрын

plexoer and now the z06 has faster head to head track times on 2 tracks against the nismo to where the nismo only has 0 :(

@jnrandall

9 жыл бұрын

TheAlienilluminati The Vette is a full 2 seconds faster. Go to the Motor Trend site and read the retraction.

@TheAlienilluminati

9 жыл бұрын

jnrandall I understand that and I'm not debating that. What I'm saying is, the Z28 has more potential, and with a few thousand dollars added, and/or a couple minor adjustments, the Z28 would walk away from the Vette, and there's nothing that could be done to change that outcome. There's no replacement for displacement. The Z28 having a much larger displacement leaves more room to play with. If the Z28 motor can handle twin turbos or a supercharger, no contest. Period. Hell, all you'd have to do is change the gearing to be honest! And your kids can film it from the back seat. 

@RHS-992

9 жыл бұрын

TheAlienilluminati does z06 has nurburgring time? I wouldn't say these cars are "close" on a racing track.

Hennessy Venom GT: 6 speed manual Challenger Hellcat: 6 speed manual SRT Viper: 6 speed manual Corvette Z06: 7 speed manual Mustang gt500: 6 speed manual Nissan GTR: ONLY COMES WITH FLOPPY PADDLES USA USA USA USA

@strengthbuild

9 жыл бұрын

oh and if anyone buys a sports car "because it's faster with paddles", go fuck yourself.

@KevinDang261

9 жыл бұрын

It's faster with paddles.

@alextran3147

9 жыл бұрын

You probably drive a Toyota Prius auto Don't bash what another person enjoys to make yourself look like a badass on KZread lol

@TEQTONYK

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah & the one Japanese car here is faster. You can throw out as many names as you want...this is about a Nissan & a Corvette & the Nissan won. So you can go fuck yourself with your imaginary comparisons cause nobody cares about those. The Nissan won...get over it.

@TheYBGOON

9 жыл бұрын

the new cayman gt4 comes with a manual. Thats going to be special

Which one would you guys take? I'd take the Z06.

@NikoBell12

9 жыл бұрын

Z06. Cheaper and looks better inside and out. I'd get it without the Aero pack too. It looks better with a less defined spoiler and splitter.

@Vazin

9 жыл бұрын

Porsche 911 Turbo S

@robertkelly3041

9 жыл бұрын

NikoBell12 Have to agree. However, I'd get a cheaper version.

@robertkelly3041

9 жыл бұрын

Sp3tsn4z HD That thing is more expensive than the GTR!

@Vazin

9 жыл бұрын

So?

I wanna see the Z06 with the automatic transmission rather than the manual, pretty sure it would be a closer lap times to the GTR.

@schubcars100

9 жыл бұрын

I think on Willow it wouldn't matter that much, just like Randy says it doesn't slow it down that much. On the 0-60 times however, you're right.

@juliushopkins58

9 жыл бұрын

Yes man I really wish they would stop putting manuals against automatics. They did they same thing with the ZL1 Camaro when it went up against the Hellcat. I really don't get it.

@wadesloan

9 жыл бұрын

Julius Hopkins Sometimes I think it just comes down to the cars available when they are tested. Maybe they didn't have the auto available?

@juliushopkins58

9 жыл бұрын

wade18 What you said makes sense however if that really is the case then they should wait until they can match them both up so the both cars can have a fighting chance. Honestly I had already predicted that the GTR would win and I was right. They can't continue to have old school technology going up against new-age technology.

@wadesloan

9 жыл бұрын

Julius Hopkins I agree with you there. I thought the Z06 would win for sure, but I was pleasantly surprised. Great video

The only reason randy says the corvette is hard to manage is because he's driving it at 100% of what it can do. I've ridden in a non z07 z06 on the track. It was my instructors car. No mods, completely stock and it ripped your face off in turns and braking. Never got side ways and I didn't knownyou could get on throttle that soon coming out of a corner with that car. It amazed me to be honest. For everyday people c7 z06 is not hard to control at all. I love that car.

@aaronvector4750

9 ай бұрын

It had alignment and stability control issues, that's why it was a riot

@camonly849

9 ай бұрын

@aaronvector4750 I know it had that, but I've heard him say that before and a lot of drivers have said it about corvettes. What I've found is that driving it at 100% is harder, not how a majority of regular people on the track would drive it.

If money wasn't a problem, I'd take both.

@BT-ls5zk

9 жыл бұрын

Mark Batarina id take 5 of both

@jcynavarro

9 жыл бұрын

Mark Batarina Exactly! a person who loves cars, wont side with one. but will love both hahah...

@qwertyui859

9 жыл бұрын

***** Please explain more. Did you read the book? Did you actually apply the "secret" and get results?

@jacobturner6646

9 жыл бұрын

If money wasn't a problem, nothing would be a problem!

@f0gGenx

9 жыл бұрын

WitherTux LOL yes indeed.

I like how people are watching and commenting on this video yrs later !

thats what tuning is all about. you dial each aspect of the car to get the best time. even badge on some car that you remove from the grill make it have higher speed or accelerate faster on top speed. this is why when manufacture make a higher end model it cost so much more but the component barely changes. the cost goes to the R&D and in turn, that makes the cost go up more and not adding more HP or component.

Well, the GT-R is a beast coming out off the corners with that AWD for sure. Guess the Z06's later braking advantage wasn't enough to make up the difference. Plus, the GT-R has that slick dual clutch that clicks off lightning fast shifts. Was really hoping they would test a Z06 with the 8-speed auto as it is supposed to be quicker around a track than the manual. Might have been closer. Still, I would take the Z06 over the GT-R. If you want comfort and a car that almost drives itself around the track, then GT-R. If you want excitement and a car that challenges you to become better driver, then Z06, IMO.

@HandsomeAlex25

9 жыл бұрын

This is the most even handed comment on this video! Congrats!

@CallsignVega

9 жыл бұрын

The auto Z06 is not faster than the manual. Why do you think GM keeps sending the manual car to the track events? The auto shifts faster, but robs more power and heats up faster.

@G8GTJav

9 жыл бұрын

Callsign Vega Well, I did say "supposed to be quicker". The media has been saying the auto is the quicker way around a track. It could be that short supply of the automatic version is the reason why you see manuals being supplied to testers. Heard at least one reviewer say they wished they could have got an auto for testing. I do know that in a timed event, such as quarter mile or track, you lose time due to manually shifting gears. You can easily lose more than half a second just in a quarter mile and that adds up on a long track.

@FrankieJames7

9 жыл бұрын

Callsign Vega or havn't been built yet. the auto will almost undoubtedly be faster.

@HowlingNinjaDog

9 жыл бұрын

Callsign Vega They've already come out and said that the auto is faster.

It's pathetic that the Z06 needs a 6.2L supercharged V8 to make 650hp where as the GTR makes 600hp with just a 3.8L V6 turbo

@thybigballs

9 жыл бұрын

How exactly do hp/l ratio's matter? It would be great if I could get just one noob, JUST ONE, to come up with a no-nonsense legit answer. Will you be the first, noob?

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

yet the bigger engine makes more power/torque gets better gas mileage is smaller and lighter and makes fewer C02 emissions.

@TedMan55

9 жыл бұрын

the z06 engine is smaller, lighter, and more understressed (low hp/L) so it'll last longer. plus, it delivers instant torque and sounds amazing (unlike a stupid little 6 cyl with turbos)

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

Teddy Shinozuka 100k warranty. Gm doesn't want to replace engines

@superjervis

9 жыл бұрын

It just goes to show how America is way behind with engineering...7.0l ?..pffff

Lol a V6 again beats a huge shit motor 😂😂😂

@jnrandall

9 жыл бұрын

WeKnowTheTruth2012 The Vette is a full 2 seconds faster. Go to the Motor Trend site and read the retraction.

@Dylan-xj8tb

9 жыл бұрын

1) the gtr has the bigger motor...put them side by side and you'll laugh your ass off at how much smaller the v8 will be. 2) the z06 in the video had an alignment issue. read motor trends article about it, the realigned the car and it ran a better time than the gtr gtr loses to another corvette, as usual

@thisismee3642

9 жыл бұрын

jnrandall yeah put it kn after the fact. Remake the video and give the truth. Thats why I dont pay attention to what they say cause its flavorable to who they want to get it. Well I guess you can do that when you own the mag.

@BaiaoDe2

9 жыл бұрын

I want to see 2015 NSX and Civic Type R and more ahead the Toyota FT-1 (Probably Supra) :D

@shironaxx9822

9 жыл бұрын

Dylan Sumski nope , GTR owns them all , them stupid V8's aint worth the fucking pnny a stage 2 gtr and a bit of tune could beat a 2015MCLaren P1 watch the vid in youtube

Why bring the manual 7spd z06? They should have brought the z06 8spd auto with the same z07 package and I think it would have been a different story.

@CardiacAtttack

9 жыл бұрын

Kris Perez The GTR is extremely fast on Big Willow, the 8 Spd likely wouldn't have made that much of a difference. However the Z06 is already faster around VIR and will probably be quicker at Laguna Seca as well. It really depends what track you're on with these cars as they both have their strengths and weaknesses.

@Drivermod_Josh

9 жыл бұрын

***** it's the supercharger as the main problem. Drop the crap 1.7 supercharger and put the old Zr1s supercharger. You'll see this run much faster.

@eafan48

9 жыл бұрын

***** umm no lol that would be the hellcats

@Blively717

9 жыл бұрын

I don't think it has anything to do with it's transmission. The c6 Z06(in some cases) as well as the the Zr1 have had no problems beating the GTR on a track in the past (yes, I know it wasn't a Nismo) with a manual, so the transmission isn't the culprit. It's gotta be the ECU and heat soak problem it's been having combined with the heap of downforce it's aero package creates that hinders its acceleration. Because to go around the figure 8 in 22.3 sec compared to the Nismo's 23.1 and be slower by 1.5 secs around a track, it doesn't add up. Wouldn't you agree?

@Drivermod_Josh

9 жыл бұрын

the supercharger is heat soaking the engine. too much RPM = more heat

If you had the Corvette in automatic transmission, it would have been much faster through the 0-60 test and quarter mile test. Unfair advantage to the GT-R.

@DBGMLV

9 жыл бұрын

I was just about to say that.

@Spooky4815

9 жыл бұрын

agree

@Brunobondr1

9 жыл бұрын

if the gtr had better tires it would be even faster.... if if...

@hvdvmjbmjmj

9 жыл бұрын

they already did a 0 to 60 test with the z06 in auto and it still lost to the nismo gtr,s 0 to 60 time.

@maxjtj31

9 жыл бұрын

catless exhaust no shit, the gtr is 4wd

They retested the Z06 and found that it was faster around the track then the NISMO. This particular Z06 in the video had the rear alignment severely out of wack causing it to be slower.

Great to hear Randy talking through the laps! More please.

@MotorTrendWatch

9 жыл бұрын

We love Randy's real-time narration, too. More to come.

@nyelement007

9 жыл бұрын

Motor Trend Channel too bad yall cant actually bring the auto corvette and pick the right aero package for the right track. motor trend you disappoint me everytime i get my hopes up. just when i think a fair comparison is here you lobsided it for the gtr. the gtr does 11.0 and the z06 does 11.4? Okay you really think i am going to believe that garbage? if you tested the auto i guarantee you its going to be 10.9 - 11.1 not 11.4 thats a time for a much slower car. z06 has 650hp more torque, lighter weight,stickier tires,better brakes, with the auto i expect a tie or close to it. i respect the gtr and its time 100 pct. what i dont respect is bringing a half ass car to a comparison that has so much heated arguements in it. the GTR fanboys are retarded as ever and corvette fans have no right answers. all we have are questions even motor trend testers expect the vette to win on the track. so how many things were broken on that car in the video? where is the auto 8 speed? did motor trend use a pre-production car for press? plus the ecu that whole thing is too much un-reliable stuff for 1 video. vette is better hands down. noone cares about this video but GTR fanboys.

@208SledHead

9 жыл бұрын

thisguy177 Wow...someone is obviously biased.

@Livinghighandwise

9 жыл бұрын

thisguy177 Dude you know very little about cars.. Yes on paper the Vet appears like the clear winner, but paper specs don't always bare full fruit when the wheels hit the road. I'm sure the vet could be tuned to get more performance out of it on that particular track, but the goal of this video was to bring 2 factory tuned cars and see what they can do.. I don't see any problems with how they tested these cars.

@bootyman234

9 жыл бұрын

Uncle Deez Everyone who comments here is BIASED to some degree. Some people display more objectivity than others, however, and thisguy177 is just having problems reconciling bullshit. The comparison was botched....period! We all know that even tenths of a second are a lifetime in racing, yet a manually shifted car is pitted against an advanced shifting automatic! and then considered a contest on even footing, when the makers of the manually shifted one ALSO make what may be an even quicker shifting auto? His frustration is very well understood by me. I mean God damn, politics even has sway here?

Fianlly the gtr smacked that butt of the Z06 !

@coureurdebois

9 жыл бұрын

no shame in losing the the nismo. its a 170,000 car with the same options they had on the vette. plus this GTR resembles next to nothing from the 1st one back in 2007. this is completely reworked from the engine internals to the shock set up to the chassis rigidity. other than interior or exterior its completely different.

@pat6851

9 жыл бұрын

justin bouche just shut the fuck up... excuses excuses -_-

@coureurdebois

9 жыл бұрын

Antis PL ? i didnt give any...

@rucarnuts13

9 жыл бұрын

Antis PL $50K could buy a Porsche Cayman, and $50K is not worth 1.5 seconds... Now, please refrain from being rude to your fellow petrol heads.

@pat6851

9 жыл бұрын

yes you did you said its the nismo edition

can't wait to buy a Z06 in a couple years :)

@benmctier3564

9 жыл бұрын

dudeeeee let me have a ride in it when you get it!!!!

@eggncheezy

9 жыл бұрын

Ben McTier maybe hehehehe

@funkystickman99

Жыл бұрын

you have it yet?

@kevinstaub

Жыл бұрын

Hows the vette?

I'd take a GTR over a Corvette anyday! With AWD the GTR is an all year round supercar with 4 seats, more practicality, and better fuel economy than Corvette while the 650hp Corvette has too much power going only to the rear wheels, just search Corvette Crash Compilation and you'll see the RWD Corvette is extremely easy to spun out and crash like the Carrera GT did to Paul Walker, 400hp is the maximum I would want in an RWD car, 650hp would be fatal, any car over 400hp should be AWD, just to keep the power controllable and be responsible with that much power.

@michaelmontgomery2446

9 жыл бұрын

Mclaran f1, p1 and a long list of supers rwd.

@Leonidae

9 жыл бұрын

Michael Montgomery Funnily enough, said cars have weight on the rear wheels as they're MR, not FR like Z06.. Hence why they can handle more power.

@zachweibel3716

9 жыл бұрын

Good luck driving a GTR in the snow. Just because it has AWD doesn't discount the wide and track oriented tires. Also the Corvette gets better fuel economy at 30mpg highway. Paul Walker didn't crash because he was driving a RWD car and spun out either, it was because he was going 100mph on a public road and drove off the road. Finally, just because there's video compilations of a specific kind of car crashing doesn't mean its uncontrolable, if they made as many GTRs as they did Vettes, there'd be a compilation of them crashing too.

@MannyDelReal

9 жыл бұрын

you guys love the awd systems but what you need to know fastest lap put downs are from rwd cars and thats f1

@kevinle5810

9 жыл бұрын

As I owned a Gtr, I totally agree with you but one thing, Gtr is not better fuel economy than Corvette at all =)

Motor Trend actually admitted the gtr is a better car than a corvette? Well fuck me sideways. I'm off to grow a mullet and marry my sister.

@sahiel5

9 жыл бұрын

yep GM trent after not beliving and checking it 3 times admits it o how chevy fans will howl tonight

@Bahamuttiamat

9 жыл бұрын

***** They are howling already. Hey want a shot of moonshine before i make love to my sister wife? Yeeehaw

@sahiel5

9 жыл бұрын

***** no thanks wher i from we dont rly drink that kind of soft drinks we drink 90% spirit with sea water

@garrettwilson2626

6 жыл бұрын

Bahamuttiamat if I had to choose between the corvette and the gtr, I'd pick the gtr. If I had to choose between a 70 charger with 900hp and a gtr, I'd be with the charger all day!!!! 😂😂😂

I love the Z06 but there is something seriously wrong with this car. On the straights it is slower in acc. The spoiler on the back is making it slower. Top speed has been cut. It over heats quick. They are struggling to get a ring time because i feel its slower than the old Z06/Z07 package. This car is fighting it's own self. This car could be a big flop for GM and it is there fault. This car has lost to so many cars on KZread. Get the last Z06 and Zr1 do a comparison to this. It might Lose.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

Let's say this baby has some issues. The dyno reading really show what is wrong with Z06. Torque spikes fairly quickly. Leaving nothing on the top end. You have say 600+hp till 130.After such speed heat soak,drag and ecu cuts timing. The highway pulls back December were a sign of things to come. GM claims the Ring lap was rained out. Throw in some race like fuel. Probably could get a great Ring time. Any less long back strait will kill this car top speed. We have to see what this CTS-V will do. It has similar engine but much better cooling management then Z06.

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams it's the computer. it pulls timing to keep the engine alive. with the 100K warranties chevy has to keep the engine going. tuners said it pulls like 10 degrees[that's like 100hp loss]

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

Daniel The Alpha Wolf No, there isn't dry sump on CTS-V. Should interesting to see if it can hold up.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

Sanic That's about right on the number side.Torque takes a similar hit too.

@CardiacAtttack

9 жыл бұрын

Thor22 The 'Ring is closed now but the Z06 is already quicker than the ZR1 on VIR. blog.caranddriver.com/watch-the-2015-corvette-z06-absolutely-destroy-virginia-international-raceway/ Although I hope GM will tune the ECU differently and back down on the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty so the LT4 won't be strangled.

This sheds some light on the Nurburgring crash/ lap time delay situation. The car is a handful when pushed to the limit.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

I just thinking that when I show the video. It appears the aero is used to try to tame it. On the limit the aero doesn't work at lower speeds. GM should've delayed the car from being released. They know Randy will tell all that's not working in handling.

I'm just amazed at all the American butt hurt? A brand new car loses to an 8 year old platform? Yet it has more power more torque, bigger engine, lighter? The thing is the Corvette will bounce back and I hope they do, it will just spur others on, to make their cars better. I just hope they don't rely on the big sticky tires like on the 2012 ZR1/Z06 had, or the MPSC ZP tires, for the next update! Because you cannot use them daily! No matter the BS they feed you about semi slick tires! Great on a track no so on the road, and that's where you are going to be using your beloved 100K car! The GTR did well here! Simply it will probably get beat on the Laguna Seca! (this version is a little different to the pre-production one they tested last year). No idea why you are crying, or why in the all the world did you guys think it was going to be so amazingly perfect? It's beat the 911 GT3, it's just the Nismo is better, simple. Love both cars and stop bitching Americans!

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

There is a stg 1 package with SS tires. Someone posted similar Z06 on winter tires. The Cup2 are for track performance. On the street good luck with them in damp conditions.

@killswitch1.0

9 жыл бұрын

Lol tell me about it corvette fans just refused to understand that the nissan is a much better vehicle even with bad breaks and less sticky tires

@sw1000xg

9 жыл бұрын

Dennis Bamfo If Nissan just put on some Carbon Brakes, it would be a monster, I can't understand why they won't put them on? Even if they stay away from the sticky tires!

@npsit1

9 жыл бұрын

Wait, brand new car? The Vette has been around longer than Nissan itself.

@sw1000xg

9 жыл бұрын

***** The C7 is all new! The GTR R35 platform has been around for 8 years! Or longer if you include the time before it's release!

The big question is, which car was more fun to drive? Times don't matter if you're not having fun.

@scottsmith3257

9 жыл бұрын

Exactly, I'm not a big fan of either car but that's why I'd choose the corvette out of the two.

@Lolman240

9 жыл бұрын

Based on what Randy said towards the end, the Z06 would be more fun to drive because the GTR does everything all too well by itself.

@xebek

9 жыл бұрын

Lolman240 So odd when people say a car will do things by itself. The GTR won't do anything "by itself". It's still a car, which means it requires driver inputs for throttle, brake and steering (among other things). It's not automated or self-propelled. It isn't a shuttle craft on star trek. Have you driven one? It's absolutely exhilarating and it does push you to become a better driver. Perhaps you meant to say the z06 is more visceral? That, I would agree with.

@Lolman240

9 жыл бұрын

xebek Oh, it is a bit of an exaggeration. It's not the RS7 with autonomous driving. The opinion is not of my own but rather of Motor Trend's. They stated in previous comparisons/reviews of the GT-R that it is less involving compared to others such as this Z06. That is what I meant.

@xebek

9 жыл бұрын

Lolman240 I know, and I was being a bit of a pedantic dick. I think that some people get the impression that the GTR takes little to no skill and that it's utterly boring as a result. You know how automotive journalists tend to exaggerate, possibly giving the public an inaccurate perception.

I own a C6 Z06 and a GTR track edition - the handling on the GTR is insane, the fun on the corvette is insane too :)

@Top_Gear_Clips_Central

4 ай бұрын

so... which do u prefer

They re-tested these cars and the Z06 won.

@johnjones27

9 жыл бұрын

SANIC It lost fair and square. The retest was because gm was so butthurt they got beat by the underdog NISMO and to save their pride made up so lie about an alignment issue just so they can tweak it to fit the track. GM is such a sore loser. I know the truth hurts. But hey, that's life. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

John Jones the retest fixed the rear camber issue with the Z06. And it beat the GTR nismo. Better at the track Ran a stock 10.42sec 1/4 mile Gets better MPG. Better car overall

@DiaperSNiFFER

6 ай бұрын

@@3rdGenGuy10.4 1/4mile with a manual??

AWD>RWD. Its physics.

@schubcars100

9 жыл бұрын

More like bullshit

@VIRTUALBOYKP

9 жыл бұрын

No Dani, physics.

@fokjohnpainkiller

9 жыл бұрын

***** Aka boring shit.

@fe1138lix

9 жыл бұрын

Then explain why the GT3 was faster than the Z06 aswell...

@fokjohnpainkiller

9 жыл бұрын

fe1138lix It was?! O.o holly shit corvette's fucked up. Just 475 horsepower and it was faster?!

These are less of sports cars and more of track cars. Both are too uncomfortable in their sport or race mode. The base GTR is more appealing for both driving and it's price. The same goes for Z06. Z06 has wider tires than 918 (front) and are basically the stickiest semi slicks on the market. The trend with ever wider tires, especially in the front, and ever extremer aero packages to make fast track cars, is moving these cars from being sports cars to track specialists. Z/28 with worlds widest front tires (also sticky semi slicks) comes to mind. And too much torque is good in a track or race car, not in a sports car. If you want to do some inspired driving and reving your engine on a canyon road with Z06, I think you can only shift from 1st to 2nd and back. With that much torque you will be at insane speeds already in 3rd gear. And you could leave it in 3rd all the time with no need to shift. The base Corvette C7 with Z51 package is a much more appealing sports car than this track monster. GTR is close to ending it's cycle and it shows. Z06 could have been a nice sports car 1 or 2 steps above C7 but unfortunately it turned out to be a track car. Despite all the advantages Z06 has over GTR with much wider stickier tires, so much better brakes, more power and torque and less weight still lost to this old design GTR so decisively.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

I must say all points are very inline. Z06 was actually developed with the race car. On looks that what it really is. Problem here is GM didn't tune Z06 properly. The claimed power is for a little while before computer says that's enough of the fun and games,lol.. To protect engine and other valuable parts ECU cuts power and timing some 10 degrees. From then on car is well under 600hp. GM wishes to see their engine last 100,000 miles. Tuning a supercharger based car is no easy trick. There must be all kinds of radiators to cool it. The Hellcat has a very different supercharger. The cooling on that monster probably adds 100+ pounds in weight. It appears GM didn't want to add such weight.I've looked over all the cooling components. I don't see this setup working out. They will have to add weight to get all right.If not ECU will just only allow a short duration of power. The handling is a issue too. GM should have delayed this car. The CTS-V has the same engine but with a different cooling system. I will have to see 1 tested for a better reference point.

@CardiacAtttack

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams It's pretty ridiculous to have a 100,000 mile warranty on a high performance car like the Z06. Hopefully GM will tune the ECU differently so the LT4 won't be strangled.

@Dgannt

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams I think you're right about the handling. Such a track focused car with that much torque, extreme tires, brakes and aero should preform much better. I think they need to make some adjustments to the chassis.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

NoReplacementForDisplacement I think we need to relax a little. For the first time Z06 is actually the better car not including the lap time. You could drive it more then this NISMO. The Stingray Z51 is still the best bargain. When the tuner contacted GM of the conservative tune issue I knew we were in for disappointment. GM came out and stated of issues in hitting emissions targets. The white flag was thrown for there on. The handling issues I read online. Z06 isn't a polish car. They haven't ironed out the minor things. If you want a old school wheel spinning tire burning car. This Z06 will make you day. I still see it as a tuners dream. This could be the car that wrecked at the Ring,lol. Might be a unfinished test mule. Maybe some details will come out about it. The auto should be the better car on track. I still think torque converter can tame the power out of corners. Not for use how long it will last either but hopefully a test of 1 happens soon. The warranty is the big killer here. It's damn hard to guarantee a track car for 100,000 miles. I mean come on, this is no Hyundai.

@CardiacAtttack

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams GM's still got time to iron out the kinks so I don't mind that much, but strangling the LT4 so it has the lifespan of a family hatchback is beyond stupid to me. Especially on the Z07 package Z06. Vengeance racing was able to get 660hp/663tq at the wheels with a few minor changes to the LT4. Or there could be issues with this specific car, who knows honestly. I can't wait for MT to take the Z06 to Laguna Seca though.

GTR-----》 heavier, less hp, no cerámic brake, less g force and its faster in a track and straight line. ¡¡¡GTR engineer its incredible!!!

good comparison but $46k more for the gtr?? id rather get the z06 and a decent daily driver

@PhotoArtBrussels

9 жыл бұрын

Here on the old continent (Europe) they are about the same price. And the Vette (and I love it, the new ones are great), is VERY expensive to own due to the high engine capacity. The vette's engine makes in Belgium 3600€/Year in road tax. The GTR is only 1200€/Year. And gasoline costs 1,5€/liter = 5,6$ US / gallon. I had a GTR R35, drove it in terrential rain, snow, in the summer on the Nurburgring, at Spa ... I ferried people with their luggage to the airport (4 usable seats and very big boot). So if our tax system would change again (currently I would pay 19500€/Year in tax on a GTR/Vette), I'll get a new one. They are great daily drivers (but very hard). Or ... a new C7 automatic. :-)

@coureurdebois

9 жыл бұрын

valcked im from luxembourg and the nismo is far more expensive than the vette. its over 30,000 euro more.

@kageryu311

9 жыл бұрын

valcked I agree. I live in Belgium and it would be a NIGHTMARE to have a Z06 over here. It's gonna be worse when I move to Switzerland. :(

@drgonzo767

9 жыл бұрын

For the price difference you can almost buy a regular Stingray as a daily driver.

@kageryu311

9 жыл бұрын

Doug Harlow Good luck finding a stingray for under 70k. That's how much they are going for on average out the door.

Not surprised for 2 reasons. 1 the nissan has had years to improve upon the gtr and 2 it has a great awd system. Tell you what, put the optional ceramic brakes and some cup 2 tires and the gtr would be even faster. Doesn't. Matter how much fun FR cars are they're Going to struggle with corner exit grip in high hp applications. I can just imagine how much the gtr fandbois are celebrating now lol. Good job with the video. I enjoyed it but personally would have been surprised if there was any other result.

@MannyDelReal

9 жыл бұрын

for me 2 sec isn't enough to justify that 50k lol am i sein something here

@JamaicanMeCrazy

9 жыл бұрын

And to thibk the gtr was the bargain a few years ago...

@alfredoggy

9 жыл бұрын

***** After ten laps, those 2 seconds turn into 20 seconds...

@Leonidae

9 жыл бұрын

***** No it doesn't. it has runflats.

@Misfiring89

9 жыл бұрын

***** The normal GT-R has "performance tires" but they're pretty far from being a track oriented tire like the Cup 2. The Dunlop SP Sport Max GT600 DSST CTT is more geared towards durability than outright grip. This Nismo has the same tire with less treads.

GTR guys: Don't worry, Corvette always got your back. Coz they're always slower.

@Phoenix_1006

9 жыл бұрын

LAUNCH CONTROL 東瀛戰神​ Sorry didi I'm not a fan of these two cars.

@Phoenix_1006

9 жыл бұрын

LAUNCH CONTROL 東瀛戰神​ Among these two di? None! I don't have favorite or like most cars. I'm not picky on cars as long as it runs and manual.

@Phoenix_1006

9 жыл бұрын

LAUNCH CONTROL 東瀛戰神​​​ To tell you the truth di, even my family has too many cars I don't care what kind ofcars they have as long as I can drive. And because of Quentin Freeman​​ and you, I learned a little about cars even your conversation with Q about different insane cars hahaha I thank both of you for sharing it. Seriosly I don't know what's lada? Lazzara I know because my dad is planning to buy a new one.

@TheImSolid

9 жыл бұрын

LAUNCH CONTROL 東瀛戰神 That feeling when the Z06 was retested after discovering an alignment issue and it beat the GTR.

@pascalmpower7944

9 жыл бұрын

Gabe N by 0.7 sec -_- and they adjusted it.

Imagine a 4WD Z06, what would happen then.

@Sonic_1000

9 жыл бұрын

Imagine 50 more horses in the Nissan.

@H1mynameisLarry

9 жыл бұрын

Bora Rossi If there was a 4wd stingray, it would also be a lot heavier...

@JgHaverty

9 жыл бұрын

H1mynameisLarry AWD* not 4WD guys. Also, an AWD system weighs around 250 pounds.

@R34GTRR35

9 жыл бұрын

H1mynameisLarry Its rear until slip detected - get it now ?

@arturoponce6657

9 жыл бұрын

It would drive a bit differently, but rwd probably suits the vette better

I'm a GTR fan and I'm butthurted

@sahiel5

9 жыл бұрын

why?

@aleenn

9 жыл бұрын

***** Because it won for 2 seconds ahead.

@sahiel5

9 жыл бұрын

Bojidar Martinov ye i dont see the reason if u like the gtr and it won by1,5s is a bad thing

@sahiel5

9 жыл бұрын

Bojidar Martinov plus u cant make vett faster but invest in nismo 5k in tiers and brake and it would be much faster

You know what sucks and yet is awesome about cars? There will never be an automobile that is the best, because the next day will see a stronger, faster, overall improved version of the older one.

@robertkelly3041

9 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of iPhones.

@OmegaEGGY

9 жыл бұрын

Rawr McRawr Except cars are better in every way than iPhones...

@psychobeam99

9 жыл бұрын

Rawr McRawr Love the picture, don't know about the Iphone, personally I've never had one, but everyone I know who has has either broken it in the week, complained about it, or traded it in for something else. I dunno.

@robertkelly3041

9 жыл бұрын

OmegaEGGY Well, yeah. But I wasn't comparing them. I was just adding to the other guy's comment when he said, "There will never be an automobile that is the best, because the next day will see a stronger, faster, overall improved version of the older one." Kind of reminds me of what apple does.

@OmegaEGGY

9 жыл бұрын

Rawr McRawr Fair enough.

To all you GTR fan boys.... the gtr wasn't developed any better or worse than the Z06. The reason the Z06 lost the track battle is the same reason the Zr1 beat the viper gts at Laguna Seca...driver confidence. The Gtr's 4wd system allows you to be more confident, relaxed, and less strained on not how much throttle to give it out of the corners but, when and how much earlier can I give this thing full throttle. 4wd give you more traction, more traction means a more confident driver, which equal up to faster lap time. The end.

@Turshin

9 жыл бұрын

Dont get me wrong I dont hate the Gtr I just hate the fan boys that try to make it seem like Nissan engineered their car soooo much better than GM did the Corvette. Trust and believe if you disable that front axel on the gtr it would be a different ballgame. Both cars are the best in their individual drive trane layout.

@brudel001

9 жыл бұрын

So prius would be magically faster than corvette if the driver is more confident? This goes for the situation where cars are equal but one gives more confidence. In this case on paper corvette has all the edges - it has more power, more torque, a lot less weight, way better brakws, way better tires. Basically all the simple understandable things are better.

@Turshin

9 жыл бұрын

Aur0n a prius lol really lets be adults and keep things in perspective, a prius no but something like a hot Megan, fiesta, or 208 gti in a super tight technical course (topgear uk fiesta vs corvette in a mall), yes the small front drive would beat a much much more powerful rear drive car....power, torque, less weight, good brakes and tires don't mean jack shit if your suspension and aero settings wont allow you to put all that power to the ground properly. Well at least at thos particular track. Now somewhere like the N-ring the vette would just power buy the gtr with its long high speed sweepers and straights. The vette, with a softer suspension setting cause the ring is bumpier than hell, would be rock solid stsble with tge stage 3 aero kit. Not to say this track is small but it was the right size and the right amount of corners for the gtr to blast out of each one. Thats the real beauty of Awd. Lol no pun intended.

@BigGuz53

9 жыл бұрын

What about the Viper T/A beating the ZR1? Why did that happen?

@Turshin

9 жыл бұрын

BigGuz53 chasis recalibration and a pissed off Randy. Ralph Giles ,ceo of SRT at the time, said Randy was always afraid of the Viper which is why he was reluctant to push it to its limits. Randy made sure to make ole Ralphy a lier the second time around.

How did you get the Z06 Supercharger whine? I have never heard that ever. And I own one.

@Tubes12AX7k

6 ай бұрын

The camera and microphone were outside of the car.

@jackdawson3983

6 ай бұрын

@@Tubes12AX7k Yes, but even on the outside, I don't hear the whine. Chevy has masked it. It doesn't even always have the whine in your video. Just some times.

the vette is a piece of artwork... the gtr is a fucking nissan ultima with turbos

@lotteryplayer

9 жыл бұрын

sipan9000 Well that so called Ultima with turbos just put it to your picasso.

@sipan9000

9 жыл бұрын

CSM1470 the z06 is obviously the superior vehicle regardless of what motor trend says..lol and I prefer Dalí :)

Why GTR underdog? $149,990 USD vs $78,995 USD

@PwnageJ

9 жыл бұрын

the looks and performance... not price

@cheapscifi

9 жыл бұрын

lol so the price of a car isn't important? P1's for everybody!!!! unless youd like a honda odyssey. I hear they are very reliable

@PwnageJ

9 жыл бұрын

James Barnes $150k nissan beats most supercars costing twice as much. and the brand isnt as attractive as a lambo or ferrari nor the looks of the GTR. and the Z06 is only $78k.... hella cheap

@ChevyCamaroIsBetter

9 жыл бұрын

SmallBoyzzz and what car do you own?

@cheapscifi

9 жыл бұрын

SmallBoyzzz then compare the datsun to a car that cost twice as much and call it an underdog.

Finnally the truth I hear so much bullshit about how the vette is faster Bullshit!

@rbstigs5028

9 жыл бұрын

better bang for my buck z06 hands down ur talking about a z06 78k vs gtr nismo costing 150k+ that is developed for track purposes lol... .4 difference in 1/4th mile time and 2mph difference which isnt much at all...just do a few minor things to get more grip and better traction control software on the vette and it will kill the nismo gtr :) american cars have been proving significantly if u havent been seeing that

@brianheiden6623

9 жыл бұрын

The normal Gtr is under a $100 grand and will still handle that vette bro sorry its true. I couldnt even sit in the vette at the car show my dad barely fit he is 5'10 ia am 6'3. Also it has fake ass Ferarri headlights and camaro tailights. That car is all yours bro lol.

@rbstigs5028

9 жыл бұрын

Brian Heiden lol the z06 actually beats the normal gtr on a track and straight line :/ while u playin... why dont u search it up :) all u need is better tires and a updated traction system on the vette to beat a gtr ...the nismo gtr isnt even winning by much at all

@brianheiden6623

9 жыл бұрын

That corvette is a big mistake on americas part not a fan.I have already seen it just a few mods and by by corvette guess you forgot about that part didnt you lol. That corvette will get blown off the road with $1500 in mods on a regular GTR you no it and so does the rest of the world. Why support an american car that has fake ferrari headlights and camaro tailights. Parts made in mexico,Canada and south asia. Dont let them blow smoke up your ass bro that car is bullshit.

@brianheiden6623

9 жыл бұрын

Roberson Lub Have you sat in it, or considered the things i said? Everyone else has google it.

wasn't this video deleted? when did they bring it back?

wait shouldn't the Z06 be compared to the track edition GTR? not the nismo...  and no shame in losing the the nismo. its a 170,000 car with the same options they had on the vette. plus this GTR resembles next to nothing from the 1st one back in 2007. this is completely reworked from the engine internals to the shock set up to the chassis rigidity. other than interior or exterior its completely different.

@Samfamson

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah but in other countries say australia the zo6 is 100k more than the gtr Nismo

@coureurdebois

9 жыл бұрын

Thao Nguyen well not in luxembourg the Z06 is still cheaper.

@Samfamson

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah that means it's fair comparison .., u can't always compare with price

@LeeC_808

9 жыл бұрын

justin bouche The Z06 would be a lot easier to acquire as well. Im sure those who have the NISMO for sell will surely command an ungoldly premium for it.

@carlmanney1160

9 жыл бұрын

Your just buthurt bro

GTR nismo is a waste of money. It was my dream car until I drove one. Outdated interior, clunky transmission, no manual transmission available. And 1.5 to 2 times the price? For equal performance? C7 Z06 all the way. Drove the Z06, and was instantly IMPRESSED. Bought the Z06 over the GTR.

Now imagine how rich Nissan would get if they stuck a V8 in it, upgraded the brakes, shortened the car, and lost some weight. Maybe even under the Infiniti name, so the price somewhat makes sense.

@Overkill213

9 жыл бұрын

Infiniti and Acura only exist in North America. They were just created to tackle the luxury vehicle Market. In Japan and the rest of the world the same luxury cars are made just Named Nissan and Honda.

@snaketech470

9 жыл бұрын

LMAO Nissan can't they would be nothing without twin turbos

@FrankieJames7

9 жыл бұрын

***** lol, you mean how it's heavy as fuck and has horrible balance? a lighter and n/a v8 would be way better.

@Leonidae

9 жыл бұрын

FrankieJames7 Horrible balance? I wouldn't call 53/47 weight distribution horrible balance. Corvette however could use some weight in the back to put the power down.. And while it is heavy, it is also freaky fast for the weight it has,

@FrankieJames7

9 жыл бұрын

Leonidae we were talking about the engine.

In real life it comes down to driver. At the track I see way more Vette drivers pushing their cars then GTR drivers. The confidence is key. Even though the GTR is more stable around the track. It lacks personality. And that’s why so many GTR owners don’t connect well with their cars.

It's all down to the maths 😎

why didnt they use an automatic with the zo6? its 2.9 to 60mph and the 1/4 mile time is like 10.9 not 11.4. how could you get 3.3 0-60mph when it was 3.1 with manual 2.9 with automatic. quarter mile manual is 11.1 with auto its 10.9. only .2 seconds difference not much but enough to matter.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

MT did ask for a auto. GM couldn't provide 1 in time.

@nyelement007

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams then why did they compare the 2? the manual is much slower than the auto. thats a no brainer really. 0-60 3.3 VS 2.9? 1/4 mile in 11.4 or 10.9. you tell me which transmission is better for drag racing and track use.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

thisguy177 From what I've read auto is the better overall package. MT had a mag deadline to meet. GM pretty much gave MT what was available. They should've told them NO. We are working on some issues with the cars. Model in video was a early prototype brought up to spec.Not sure how it was used in development. Results show car had some issues to work out. Hate to see this happen. Maybe next time will be a different story.

@nyelement007

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams yeah i know that sounds right spot on. and you hate to use excuses but that corvette should have been much faster i mean cmon what gives? i dont care if the GTR beat it or not i just want to know why it was so hyped up and then it failed to even match the gtr let alone surpass it. better brakes better tires less weight and 50 more horsepower. I really want to see the auto in the vette and the 0-60 and 1/4 mile times then a lap time maybe laguna seca? what are your thoughts about it all? do you think they messed with the ECU for emissions? too much downforce stage 3 aero package? i know for a fact the manual is bit slower than the auto. they should test a stage 2 aero with an automatic how do you think itd fair? id say tie with GTR about. give or take .3 tenths

@brudel001

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, factory given dry number on paper is awesome but what counts is the real life real conditions.

I've hear there has been trouble with the new LT1 engine, I'll bet if they put it on the dyno it's not making 650 horse. Wing or no wing with lighter weight more power and stickier tires it should be leaving the Nissan in the straights.

@jasonlopez53099

9 жыл бұрын

Corvette uses lt4

@CardiacAtttack

9 жыл бұрын

DAK454 People have already dyno'd the Z06 it makes 650 hp and torque. It's most likely the ECU pulling power. Also the problems with the LT1 have been fixed and the Z06 uses an LT4.

@Dakjams

9 жыл бұрын

NoReplacementForDisplacement Well there ya go.....

@CardiacAtttack

9 жыл бұрын

DAK454 That's what I'm betting it is. Although GM could still change it, the Z06 has only been out for a month or so.

@Dakjams

9 жыл бұрын

Just like with the Z28 (which by a few measures is a better track car) Chevy will eventually get the Z06 worked out.

Im shock motorTrend was Fair on this race they finally went in to details, I knew the GTR Nismo would dominate, and this is Nissan GTR, the supreme is yet to come which is the 700hp Infiniti Essence It will also play a part in Nissan/infiniti Domination coming soon....2016

@lotteryplayer

9 жыл бұрын

Robert Davis Nissan set the bar with the 2009 GTR. Every car company is trying to catch. Porsche has with the 911 turbo S. This Z06 was supposed to be the answer. NOPE!!!! Just wait until the next GTR. It will be GODZILLA on cocaine. LOL!!!

@robertdavis6917

9 жыл бұрын

CSM1470 "Yes sir" !!😀

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

Domination was shorted lived. Z06 did have issue in rear. Driver in video is clearly having difficulties with it. GM came out to Willow like I knew they would. Many thought all was set in stone after these results. After retest Z06 was over 2 secs faster then first tested. New time is 1:25.00.

@teamthoj7595

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams and still lost by .70 whats yr piont here lmaol certified none reliable peace of shit Corvette lol

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

Pazau Lor How did retested Z06 by .70 sec??? Based of your math, NISMO ran 1:24.3 which it didn't. That must be the NISMO retested time,not.

Go Carlos! No more bearded guy pls!!!

Wait so the z/28 was able to beat out the nismo gtr in best drivers car but the z06 z07 doesnt? does that mean that the z/28 camaro is a better all around car than the z06? doesn't seem to add up to me

@snaketech470

9 жыл бұрын

well it is a 7.0L Camaro woah

@wadzywadzy7

9 жыл бұрын

drivers car, cos they loved that a huge car was so fun and could perform so well. Performance wise not close to the GTR or the Z06, I think the zo6 would be a more enjoyable car to drive just not as quick as the GTR..... sorry

@highwaystar1009

9 жыл бұрын

Well it's called "Best Driver's Car" not "Fastest Track Car"

@badbimr

9 жыл бұрын

Motor Trend BIAS. Did you expect anything else? They tried to eek out the win for the Vette on this "controversial" comparison as Carlos put it. LOL

@ccz4555

9 жыл бұрын

The z28 didn't go against the nismo though..

What about tha fact that the Nissan costs a LOT more!

@blurkies1

9 жыл бұрын

In Europe and Japan the GT-R is actually cheaper overal.

@rucarnuts13

9 жыл бұрын

***** I'm not too entirely sure about that. That may have been a bit bold.

@blurkies1

9 жыл бұрын

Including fuel expenses and taxes it usually is cheaper ;)

@rucarnuts13

9 жыл бұрын

***** The C7 gets just as good mileage as the GTR. Cylinder deactivation, and lighter weight contributes to it, and in the case of the 8-speed auto, well, it's an insanely efficient gearbox. As for taxes, both are charged with the gas-guzzler tax, right? And from what I've read in the comments, apperently the GTR is still about 20-30K euros more.

@blurkies1

9 жыл бұрын

Dr. Weird Taxes differ very much between countries, so simple road taxes for example might be about 3 times as much for the corvette as they are for the GT-R. It all depends on the country you are in. When I said in "all" of Europe they are cheaper I might have been wrong but they certainly aren't that much more expensive compared to the US.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH 1 min of silence for all the Chevy fanboys.

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

I know. the Z06 was a huge flop for us. IDK what happened. the Z06 gets walked by everything. it is cheaper and a better daily, but still.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

If you thought GM wouldn't do something about this you were very naive. Z06 was updated and retested. There was a issue in the rear of the car. Z06 did post a faster time then NISMO.

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams I read it. it seemed like the Z06 needed like 6 months of development for the street. they literally flashed the ECU 2 hours befor MT tested it.

You should have put the same type of tires on both cars

A lot of claps to Nissan, but where is the 8 auto gearbox Corvette?

you know the comment section is going to be.......WELL FULL OF SHIT! so for the people who don't give a shit and love both cars be happy to be one of the first viewers cause thing are about to get REAL NASTY:)

where was the 8 speed auto?

@allcoupedup

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. It's admittedly the faster transmission.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

This question has been asked online by many. MT ask for 1 but GM couldn't send a auto.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

Daniel The Alpha Wolf Hopefully something fixed or don't test the auto either,lol. Everyone is running out of questions,excuses and answers.

@clovisthefirst492

9 жыл бұрын

Jeffrey Williams Wrong in their latest article. z06 ran a 1:25:00 they retested with the auto as well which ran a 1:25:76 nismo ran 1:25.70. the Z06 won ;) with manuel. oh and it did it with out octane boost which the GTR had Z06 ran pump gas

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

clovis myers How I'm wrong?? MT did ask for a auto.A manual was sent. I well aware of retest. There was a issue in the rear of car. GM brought a auto out to test against manual. It was all over the forums.

Test should be: automatic ZR1 vs Nismo GTR. Top vs Top

@EK-rr2md

Жыл бұрын

No, you compare the ones with the closest performance potential. Just because the Nismo was the top doesnt mean it makes sense to compare it to a model with 150 extra hp. The Z06 already has 50 more hp than the Nismo and it weighs less. Not only that but the ZR1 was not even out at this time, lol.

@aaronvector4750

9 ай бұрын

Nismo costs 50k more than ZR1

The gt3 did it in 1:27:22 with 475 hp. Wow that zo6 is slow

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

the stupid downforce fucking kills it.

@Leonidae

9 жыл бұрын

Sanic Nope.. They tried it without the downforce, and the gained straight speed was lost in the corners due to reduced traction. what killed the 'vette was the extremely conservative ECU that pulled timing due to heat soaking caused by the SC to prevent damage.

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

Leonidae the didn't remove all the downforce. I also watched the video..... do you see the angle of that wing? it's like 80 degrees lol

@Leonidae

9 жыл бұрын

Sanic Still, the heat soak was the biggest culprit here. the ECU pulled timing and power to preserve the motor.

@3rdGenGuy

9 жыл бұрын

Leonidae The Z06 HAS NO HEAT SOAK!!!!!!!!! this was already tested by the z06 owners. The ECU pulls timing for longevity. the inlet air temps were fine even after several laps.

It doesnt make sense to me why the vette lost,,, it has more power less weight better brakes and still lost.....so what happend guys...lol now can you imagine if you gave the GTR the same power weight and brakes....???? thats what i thought

@localniceguy

9 жыл бұрын

good video right?LOL Theres your proof glad you watched this vid....love it LOL hahaha

@localniceguy

9 жыл бұрын

LOVE IT...so now i know to comment on the vids i want you to watch....LOL...hahaha

@localniceguy

9 жыл бұрын

lol...yeah but i know you watched them...LOL

@localniceguy

9 жыл бұрын

sure ...lol

@localniceguy

9 жыл бұрын

sure buddy...you watched it...lol

I wonder if anyone predicted that the Z06 had massive cooling issues.

So your comparing the fastest gtr to the slowest vette. Should be nismo vs zr1 OR gtr (non nismo vs c7z)

@aaronvector4750

9 ай бұрын

The Z06 isn't the slowest vette😂 There's the Grand Sport, then the Stingray is the slowest. The Z06 is the 2nd fastest and the ZR1 is the fastest

Shame old american technology.

@jeffwill4923

9 жыл бұрын

I don't see this old tech most are claiming. Even LaFerrari and others feature new tech from Z06 and Stingray.

I need both

One day, I’ll get this GTR Nismo 🙏🏼

@regularguy1140

5 ай бұрын

Me too

Let the fanboys argument begins lol......

My Chevrolet Camaro can out dust that GTR. 

@IsiahHD

9 жыл бұрын

I thought you owned a 2010 Camaro Lmfaoooo All jokes aside, I agree. The Turbo would be faster.

@TheTraeTube

9 жыл бұрын

idh0530 I do.

@IsiahHD

9 жыл бұрын

jason luu Chill out you changed the comment from before LMFAOOO

@TheTraeTube

9 жыл бұрын

idh0530 no I didn't

@IsiahHD

9 жыл бұрын

Lmfaoooo I fucks with you regardless.

I love the way they do

I like the GTR. But it's fanboys fucking ruin it for me.

@WarWizardProductions

8 жыл бұрын

I know 😂😂

@Gmannn04

6 жыл бұрын

Josh Johnson same

@AltezzaSXE10

6 жыл бұрын

And why do you let fanboys affect you? That's dumb.

@Sam-vs5kg

6 жыл бұрын

AltezzaSXE10 because they are cunts, and you can throw a stick in any direction and they are bound to complain about shit they can't own.

the smiles the vette brought to their faces says it all.

It all comes down to engineering physics... GTR is physics on wheels.

@vernonprice5986

9 жыл бұрын

Incertus Veritas Actually it comes down to the fact that the Z06's rear alignment was off. After they fixed it they took the Z06 out again and it beat the GT-R's time. Of course.

@XDflamingdragonDX

9 жыл бұрын

Vernon Price Um no it didn't, perhaps you should watch the video again buddy...

@vernonprice5986

9 жыл бұрын

Arun Chinna Meyyappan You're not very good at reading, are you? I'll quote what I said again, just for you. This time read it. "Actually it comes down to the fact that the Z06's rear alignment was off. After they fixed it they took the Z06 out again and it beat the GT-R's time. Of course." Read much?

@johnnguyen3834

9 жыл бұрын

Arun Chinna Meyyappan The video was made way before things squared out. Motortrend admitted that the Z06 ran the lap with a misaligned rear axle. They reran it with the proper alignment as suggested in the user's manual and the Z06 handily beat the GT-R.

@ITsIMP0RT4NT

9 жыл бұрын

You mean computer on wheels??

The Z06 looks and sounds way better than the GTR IMO! Being a Brit, I'm not usually a fan of either US or Japanese cars styling wise. But you Americans are starting to put the wind up the Europeans with cars as good as this Camaro and the Mental Mustang GT350! Fantastic!

@BrunoLima-ee5lu

8 жыл бұрын

The GTR is obviously better looking

@montypizzle5780

8 жыл бұрын

+Bruno Lima meh, not as good as the gtr 34

@yocaha1777

8 жыл бұрын

like European car? corvette 2015 came with factory issue, motortrend explain that "the best driver car 2015". driving z06 you could lose the control easily, suspention are not good. what are you talking about? European and Japanese cars are more durable and not easily damaged as American.

@amiller2121

7 жыл бұрын

GT-R doesn't even look close to as good. Funky Japanese styling. The Z06 is one of the best looking cars on the planet.

@josepelayo5008

7 жыл бұрын

no I think the GT-R is better and it won so that means the GT-R is better

I don't even understand why people argue over which is better LMAO. Both are insane and I would own either in a heartbeat if I could. Screw arguments, start arguing when you can actually afford one.

@Onetazien

9 жыл бұрын

Dan Chang There's no argument. They are merely poor people who try to justify the inferior build, quality and shitty handling, ugly american crap. Some are sore losers who can't accept the fact that Japanese engineering is superior. The sound of their people is winey, annoying and pathetic.

@BahhJustaLamb

9 жыл бұрын

***** I'm all for Japanese cars, heck I daily drive a 2012 G37. But like.... those are all a matter of opinion LOL and everyone is entitled to their opinion. "American cars are all crap" is your opinion, and that's fine. But there is no form of a "wrong" opinion, as they are not fact. A "good" car can be defined in many ways. I personally think the new Corvettes are pretty nice (greatly updated interiors, handling is actually very good, and not to mention cheap to buy for a car that can keep up with AMG cars with ease) Just because one person (me, or you) likes Japanese cars for their reliability and feel, does not make anyone else wrong for their preferences. And that type of thinking is exactly why wars get started over religion and personal differences like that. tolerance is key

@Onetazien

9 жыл бұрын

Dan Chang Get the fancy comaro for cheap hp, but power isn't everything. The handling is very poor, even when driving in a straight line cause it's poorly engineered and unrefined with too much power to handle. That is the difference. You have to be a highly skilled professional to drive that shit fast or kiss your butt goodbye. Don't be fooled by bias american journalists, whom seem to always over look the poor quality of american cars and their poor quality interiors. American cars are the crappiest, cheapest and most poorly built cars you can get. You get what you pay for, that is a fact.

@BahhJustaLamb

9 жыл бұрын

yeah but the WRX is like 28k, not my choice of car but that thing handles like a beast and keeps up with Audi S4's easily. Awd, one of the best 5 speeds on the market, as fast to 60 as legitimate sports cars, and CHEAP. I've raced several in my G37 and were neck to neck the entire time. So it's not always about the money either. I personally don't like camaros but the mustangs are pretty good sports cars for the money. 35k gets you a 5.0 with independent suspension, a nice manual, decent interior, and a whole lot of fun. I don't put that much bias on where the car comes from as much as how the car actually drives.

@BahhJustaLamb

9 жыл бұрын

That being said, I wouldn't trade my G for the world. damn that thing is nice. and fast too

I may get bashed for this (and probably will anyway, because Internet...), but ANY comparison to the Porsche 918, in any category, is a win in my book. That alone puts it in a category reserved for cars way above its price point. GM did a great job on this car, and anyone who inks otherwise is biased from the beginning and their opinion is tainted to begin with. Name a car that does what this car does (without aftermarket modification) for the same price. there's maybe a handful, if that.

@hudsonja

8 жыл бұрын

thinks*

@WindyCity1992

8 жыл бұрын

you cant talk about VIR here lol these Fanboys hate the Z06

@jordan9318

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Hudson twat*

@iMRCuddles

8 жыл бұрын

+Joseph Hudson As good as the GTR? No. BUT it is an extremely nice car and the price point makes it even better. The Vette is wonderful just not up to par with a GTR

@WindyCity1992

8 жыл бұрын

+iMRCuddles you sound ridiculous you dont know much about cars the 2015 Z06 beat the Nismo at V.I.R by 8seconds 2.41.3 vs Nismo 2.49.4 the 2015 Z06 beat the 918 by 1.32 seconds overall lets remember at Laguna Seca the Nismo was 15th far behind the 2012 Zr1 and Z06 , the Viper GTS and so many

They don't call it Godzilla for nothing

@Da_Asshole

9 жыл бұрын

The vette all day imo

@RidingNomad

9 жыл бұрын

The vett it may be more modern and looks more sexy but the gtr won every race drag/track it's simply faster

@Da_Asshole

9 жыл бұрын

I don't care about the racing at all looking at the vette is like having orgasm over and over

@RidingNomad

9 жыл бұрын

You don't care about the racing? Lol

@RidingNomad

9 жыл бұрын

Well yeah I agree the vett is more sexy

from the beginning of this video i knew theres something wrong with the vette's spoiler, the angle of attack doesn't look bout right, but I'd still take the corvette any day.

@jaypalo

8 жыл бұрын

+YaBoiScoots sources ?

@thiruc

8 жыл бұрын

+Randy Tyler don't you wish haha. No need to lie here,there's a reason the corvette which is better than the Camaro(although I honestly like the Camaro more and it was my first dream car,then I saw the GTR and now the GTR is my dream car) was chosen to face the GTR. After the corvette lost,do you really think anyone would believe your base model Camaro could beat a GTR?

@yocaha1777

8 жыл бұрын

I STILL TAKE THE GTR, Better to performance, more representative, the Name GTR sound glorious. The best track car on the world. 0-60 2.9 sec ufff adrenaline pure.

@travism8597

8 жыл бұрын

yocaha1 its the best track car only on your xbox, and what the fuck a "more representative" car is ? we've just conquered that corvette got better time what are you still arguing about ?

@yocaha1777

8 жыл бұрын

hahahahahaha!!!, you sound as children. Don't know about cars.. your answer its Xbox and BMW fan. hahaa without fundament.

Damn I love that Z06

Rice fed = GTR Corn fed = Vette

Fantastic test and fantastic cars ! Thanks.

at the Nürburgring GTR 7:08.68 Corvette ZR1 7:19.63

@Rapturo_to_YESHUA

8 жыл бұрын

+john martin The 2015 Z06 is not the ZR1. Why bring up the ZR1?

@john-martin

8 жыл бұрын

+Steve C benificks of a doubt for the corvette fanboys

@Rapturo_to_YESHUA

8 жыл бұрын

john martin fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow_springs.html Now the 2015 Z06 shows to be superior on this track time. :O Chevy is late to the game of track time cars. They were mainly focused on cheap muscle cars for decades. It's only the last 10 years did they start to take it seriously. They've improved quite a bit. I'd not buy the Corvette if forced to spend $100k on a sportscar, but still respect it for its performance for that price.

@john-martin

8 жыл бұрын

+Steve C yes the corvette is a great performance car

@johnjones27

8 жыл бұрын

+Jaafar Farhan Where's the shitvette ring time. GM wont release the time because it wasn't faster than the NISMO. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The shitvette is an overheating pos GM JUNKER. NISMO still faster than shitvette. GM can't prove they are faster. GM too embarrassed to release the time. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. And stop crying about the N-ATTACK. It's an official recorded time. Nothing you say will change that hater. Too bad, you mad, soooooooo sad.

German = fast tech Nissan = fast tech +reliable American = tire spin smoke and mirrors

@samuelakinmade5977

8 жыл бұрын

gtr not reliable....

Should've used the automatic Z06, does 0-60mph in 2.95 seconds

@tbone0785

8 жыл бұрын

+Abubaker Alzuaree Pure sports car enthusiasts will get the manual gearbox, doesn't matter is it's faster or not

@DonLee1980

8 жыл бұрын

+Rich Homie Tom doesn't the covette do 0-60 in 1 gear? what does a gearbox have to do with it?

@parnveerbining5163

8 жыл бұрын

that is the corvette zr1

@parnveerbining5163

8 жыл бұрын

that is the corvette zr1

@oneslackr

8 жыл бұрын

+Parnveer Bining The Corvette in this video is a C7 Z06, which is available with either a 7-speed manual or 8-speed auto. There is no C7 ZR1. The ZR1 was the top dog of the last generation (C6) Corvette line which ended production with the 2013 model year.

Both are bad ass cars but I'll pick the corvette because it looks better and it's manual :D

@SaitamaTerra2

8 жыл бұрын

i,ll

@SaitamaTerra2

8 жыл бұрын

You know that paddle shifting it's not manual, and second there's no way muscle cars have paddle shifters. And besides the gtr it's a 6 speed semi automatic car, in other words, it's like half automatic and half manual. All you do in a gtr it's press the gas pedal and paddle shift next gear up, but you don't have the clutch pedal which in this case makes the gtr boring. But don't get all butt hurt, just because I prefer and choose the corvette over the gtr. You must understand that manual cars are fun to drive and there's no way an automatic or semi automatic car will replace the gift.

@HERKFOOT21

8 жыл бұрын

+Gilberto Rios The GTR is too boring to drive basically! The comp drives the whole car for you! Manuals are very much more fun to drive on the track. Automatics however tho are better in a drag race, especially with how advanced they are nowadays! No dis to the manual, manual is better for track, auto is better for drag.

@SavageToucan1

8 жыл бұрын

Prem Sawari spaceship? the gtr is all technology and youre calling the vette a spaceship? lol

@SavageToucan1

8 жыл бұрын

Prem Sawari gtr has 600 and vette has 650, 50 isnt alot and chevy sports cars are performance car. and its american v8 its supposed to be loud lmao.

My whole point of respect for the GTR was the price/performance ratio

@bryantnojang709

8 жыл бұрын

...but now not so much #sticktoyourroots

@adamgriffin

8 жыл бұрын

amen to that!

@jessepinkman4150

7 жыл бұрын

? the vette has a much better price to performance ratio

@Getfuqqedfedboy

7 жыл бұрын

ya the GT-R used to be the most amazing because of its price to preformance ratio. $60,000 and hand built everything, attention to to detail was amazing for price as well.. now starting prices are $110,000 but i think the 2017 even at $110,000 is insane value for money they really hoping power even on base model to old Nismo edition specs. and people thinking Vette is better value, it really isn't, I priced one out myself and they nickle and dime you everywhere. like buying a German car, everything costs extra.. everything.. can't ever buy just a base model, never it will atleast have one extra to jack up its price so they can haggle. the GT-R has set feature sets. no nickle and diming. base model is their luxury premium model.. nice comfy seats that hug you in corners, you get 4 seats infact, nice Bose audio system, leather all around, great amount of sound deadening, so pretty surprising how fast it really is once u get used to it quietness, and slightly more compliant suspension, nice large touch interface, well spec'd and trimmed. then Nismo Edition, which all of the same, plus more power, more exhaust, more rear wing, more track tuning and more aggressive awd system. then black/track edition, this strips out bunch of luxuries, adds even more power, more exhaust, and even more aggressive tuning. and if your really soft in the head or have more money than possibly know what to do with and donating and helping humanity seems unappealing .... then have theres the Alpha editions GT-Rs. these are black edition GT-Rs with special under the hood tuning. range from modest 800WHP. to 1200WHP.

@tigerbiterhater

7 жыл бұрын

So is black edition better than Nismo ? I would assume Nismo would be highest trim. From oem point.

Great video.. Cant wait for more!! Subbed!

They need to put in the description that they retested after fixing the alignment and the vette got a 1:25, but whatever. Gtr fanboys everywhere are using this video now as proof that there car is faster even though it's wrong. Thanks motor trend.

@EK-rr2md

8 жыл бұрын

They also added a different suspension calibration that does not come on the stock car.

@iamonelettersh0r

8 жыл бұрын

its funny that they tried so hard to get the corvette faster. Re-align the GTR suspension and start swapping areo around and I bet you could get better times haha.

@ravioli2646

8 жыл бұрын

1:25:?? lol

@ericwang3481

8 жыл бұрын

Well maybe because it probably is without the fancy new technology the Corvette has and all of its other upgrades .

@iamonelettersh0r

8 жыл бұрын

Delight Galore The GTR is still the better car and will be my next car after I blow My BMW or 300zx. I love Chevy and I love corvettes but they are lighter, make more power and should destroy the GTR on paper. But the magic of Godzilla always pulls through. Lets revisit this subject when the R36 lands. The R35 has been out for almost a decade now.

LOL GTR the underdog? 90k car vs 150k car.

@bigjdm5460

5 жыл бұрын

Price dnt matter because its not the price that’s the problem. It doesn’t cost Chevy 60K to add more downforce. Notice the ZR1 has a huge wing and front pieces for downforce. Yet it’s still not a great drivers car everybody is saying the chassis feels like it’s to much power and hard to drive. Front engine rear drive with no advanced aero, 650-700 pounds of torque. That’s going to be tough to drive. Rather get a 812 super fast and pay the extra 200K

@adamcharles8912

5 жыл бұрын

@@bigjdm5460 Yeah, just pony up the extra 200k.

@bigjdm5460

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Charles oh trust me I will.

@adamcharles8912

5 жыл бұрын

@@bigjdm5460 I trust ya.

@bigjdm5460

5 жыл бұрын

Adam Charles I drive a 19 Q50 Silversport not a honda

So Motor trend just tested the regular ZL-1 here and they got 1:25.87 tire pressure adjustments. I can't wait until they lap the 1LE variation of the ZL-1. It's going to be so funny when it beats it's big brother the Z06 on the track.

What can u expect?.. Gtr is Gtr afterall.. It eats exotics and muscles in a race track alive..

@FireBlazerGaming

8 жыл бұрын

How dumb are you?

@elpatriotaLX

8 жыл бұрын

+Mykel Boy Nah... A Viper ACR would piss on your beloved GTR very quick. Besides, they tested the two cars again and the Corvette won... What do you expect? Of course the Vette hat to win.

@JCtherocks

8 жыл бұрын

+ElPatriotaLX and most importantly, not a single one of you will ever earn enough to just rent any of these vehicles ;D

@elpatriotaLX

8 жыл бұрын

***** Funny you say that, I have 2015 2015 Cayman S... Which indeed it is cheaper than these two... Yet, I love my little car, it just a pain in the ass when family comes to visit. Can't take them anywhere.

@Just_Cole

8 жыл бұрын

+Mykel Boy And at the drag strip. Sometimes, lol.

Look up 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Track Retest - Motor Trend. The manual Z06 ran a 1:25.00 and the automatic a 1:25.76 to the NISMO’s 1:25.70. The rear suspension was out of alignment during the first test. So the manual is ever so slightly faster and the automatic is practically identical to the NISMO.

@EK-rr2md

8 жыл бұрын

They didn't just change the alignment, Chevy also added an aftermarket suspension calibration that is not available on the stock car.

Z06 is cheaper than the GTR Nismo Z06 top speed is higher Even tho the GTR looks nice, ill take the corvette everyday

@alexjones4690

5 жыл бұрын

More likes here.

Love watching this again, re-watch it and watching it again lol So much fun to see how Carlo underestimates the GT-R then shocked by its performance at the end lol One little tips, the 1,720 kg GT-R nismo won't out-accelerate a 1,600 kg Z06 with 50 horsepower less and 170 lb/ft torque less... Use some logic man. Close gear ratio and aerodynamic isn't everything... The reason GT-R nismo accelerates quicker is because the setup of the car allows the driver to hit the gas sooner than the Corvette. As Randy mentioned, "the car rotates at corner exit". That's because ATTESA ET-S is 100% RWD, allowing throttle steer to gain turning angle during under-steer while the front will receive right amount of power once the rear starting to lose effective amount of both lateral and longitudinal grip. In other word, the sooner he hits the gas, more balance he'll gain from the setup. And that is how the nismo "out-accelerated" the Z06. Simple as that.

@thbabni

5 жыл бұрын

The ATTESA is rear-biased all-wheel drive system... the rear always have power, getting 50-100% (i think its 70 - 100, maybe a little too high on the 50) of engine power depending on the driving conditions with its Electronic Torque Split. When the sensors need the front, up to 50% (again, maybe a little too high. probably 30) of torque can be sent to the front wheels. I think all GTRs including skyline GTRs are like that. Its only 100% when you are not pushing it or on dry pavement meaning you probably never feel the full 100% rear at the track unless the sensors see or feel nothing that it needs 30% to the front. Whats impressive about the weight of the GTR is that it has more drivetrain parts than the Vette, yet it only weighs 120KGs more (Engine sends power to a gearbox at the back that weighs about half the weight of its engine. Gearbox sends that power back to the front with another shaft to a diff somewhere under the engine.) Also the Box is clever... it is an automated manual... not a full automatic. 2 wet computer controlled clutches which are simutaneously working together. 1 controls the odd gears and the other the even gears so before you even shift into second, the gears is already pre-shifted by the second clutch and the 1st clutch disangages 1st and so on. With the all-wheel drive system, the weight and the engine, the car is nearly perfectly-balanced with good handling and grip so that the driver feels confident and in full control at all times. The GTR was built with weight in mind thats why they wont get rid of it nomatter how much you ask. It has almost nothing going on on the outside and looks like a brick because its weight is its downforce. A car that weighs a lot, handles and in the hands of inexperienced drivers they need that weight which is why you will probably reach the GTR's lap than you would in the Vette. It reminds me mostly of the failed LMP1-H class Nissan GTR LM Nismo in the sense that it has no aero trickery like the class leaders on the outside but managed to record about the same top speed with 5 gears and a disabled hybrid system... (Looking at the size of that things gearbox, it was lugging around weight.) The thing weighs like an SUV but has shared a 0-60 with hypercars 4-10x its price with less than 1/2 their horsepower and a stock one once did a 10.8 1/4 The GTR should be worth more than it is even after the price of the Nismo... I recon it was way underpriced when it debuted and the current price should have been what it was worth but its a NIssan. I think Nissan did well by taking the GTR package for the RWD skyline and making it into its own product... the GTR But other than that, I agree with most of what you said on the last and half of second last sentence.

If only the GT-R was 300-500lbs lighter, better sounding and better looking....then everyone would be a GT-R fanboy;-P