2008 Visa Championships - Women - Day 2 - Full Broadcast

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June 7, 2008 - Agganis Arena - Boston, Mass.

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  • @youraboveaveragebandtrash4825
    @youraboveaveragebandtrash48254 жыл бұрын

    Who else is here during 2020 missing gymnastics

  • @lizmiller7681

    @lizmiller7681

    3 жыл бұрын

    Your Above Average Band Trash - Oh, me for sure. During this quarantine, this a positive thing.

  • @Saleigh

    @Saleigh

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope they have it in June 2021

  • @rayneiko9569

    @rayneiko9569

    3 жыл бұрын

    i’m actually in 2021

  • @Saleigh
    @Saleigh9 ай бұрын

    I think Shawn works the beam like she’s in the floor Naustia works the beam as if she’s dancing ballet they both are amazing one is power the other has elegance

  • @waybackwhen101
    @waybackwhen1013 жыл бұрын

    Shawn has since said that Coach Chow made her sit alone and focus in isolation during competitions. Nastia for the most part did the same thing because that's how she liked to focus and perform. Y'all are reaching with this "everyone ganged up on Shawn" narrative. Their coaches dictate their EVERY move on a competition floor

  • @hannahbarwinski1181
    @hannahbarwinski11818 жыл бұрын

    It's so funny watching this in 2016 and seeing the gymnasts taking one step out of tumbling without deducting!

  • @mollymccullough8538

    @mollymccullough8538

    3 жыл бұрын

    2021 😳

  • @dannydanielsnyc

    @dannydanielsnyc

    6 күн бұрын

    I heard one of the judges say on Alicia Sacramone fx the step out of bounds Is a "silly mistake " .... now Simone Biles do it 2 times per floor routine.... my my how have the tables have turned 😮

  • @adamtravis9380
    @adamtravis93807 жыл бұрын

    The judges didn't just overscore everyone here. They played favorites. Gymnasts like Jana Bieger and Mattie Larson were significantly underscored IMO

  • @corymajor7811

    @corymajor7811

    4 жыл бұрын

    Marta did not like them. She did not let Bieger compete on both bars and beam at the 2005 worlds as she should have, instead putting Sacramone on all 3 of vault, floor, and beam, despite bombing beam at all the events that year. Mattie often called her out publicly so she hated her.

  • @carliecole2563

    @carliecole2563

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think Jana got gypped time after time... Marta supposedly "HATES falls & LOVES consistency" & also really DOESNT like to take "specialists" on teams unless they're out of this world amazing- like McKayla M. on Vault in London- but shes supposed to prefer gymnasts who are more "all arounders" who potentially could be called on to perform on almost ANY apparatus & hit their routines time after time... JANA HAS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE QUALITIES!!! She's not a huge stand out on any 1 apparatus, but, she's rock solid on EVERY ONE- she hits almost every time, she's so steady- she's a definite all around gymnast & she does generally score pretty well even if she doesn't do the absolute the HARDEST stuff- she still DOES do harder stuff than some of the other girls Marta likes more... You could have depended on Jana to put up a solid, high score that would have helped the team in Beijing on any event! I think she's definitely missing a bit of the "artistry & dance elements," & she doesn't have the lean, super straight, clean lines or build like a Nastia... But neither did Rebecca Bross & Marta was a pretty big fan of HER. I can't help but wonder if maybe her mom- might have rubbed some of the "powers the be" & big names in the sport the wrong way- what with her not being from the United States, a lot of times Europeans and Americans just express themselves VERY differently according to their cultural norms& it can rub people the wrong way. But, she's coached by her mom, and I think she got screwed out of so many team opportunities and bigger scores & along with that, missed out on a lot of top 3 finishes she deserved but maybe came in 4th or 5th by less than .3 or so. I can't understand what more Marta or anyone could have ASKED from Jana!! Which is what makes me think maybe it was something else that was the reason behind her getting screwed over so often. And if that IS the case- that's really a crappy thing to do- especially for "grown adults" to take out their own personal grudges with a PARENT on their kid! Poor Jana, 😭 she was amazing & rarely got rewarded for it or ever got the chance to show what she could do on the world stage...

  • @Saleigh

    @Saleigh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that’s not right you work hard you diserve to perform someone should not have that power to take someone’s dream away

  • @murasakino101

    @murasakino101

    2 жыл бұрын

    They did Jana so dirty. Just like chellsie, Jana was able to hit all her routines and vault was probably the only thing she could have upgraded but that shouldn't have been enough for them to not treat her fairly. They DEFINITELY played favorites and while nastia is one of my all time favorite gymnasts, But her score being higher than it was on day 1 when she had all those mistakes on her dismount and late pirouettes was unexpected honestly. Her routine is no doubt difficult and one of the hardest even now but I feel like the judges were a bit biased.

  • @stereotypea123

    @stereotypea123

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah they really screwed Bieger. She should have left USA gymnastics and gone to the German team (since they offered) where she would've been appreciated.

  • @ericablue32
    @ericablue322 жыл бұрын

    I love watching these older competitions, but I hate having to constantly hear about The Karolyi’s. Over the years, Bela and Marta have left a sour taste in many mouths…and also left several emotional scars that will last throughout many people’s lives.

  • @PhenixJoe
    @PhenixJoe8 жыл бұрын

    The scoring is absolutely preposterous

  • @viktorshramko5791

    @viktorshramko5791

    6 жыл бұрын

    Jay Petrova the code favored the uneven bars by giving the E E and E D more connection value the the other codes 👌

  • @Saleigh

    @Saleigh

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @sarahmcclure4060
    @sarahmcclure40609 жыл бұрын

    I freakin love Chellsie. She's tough as nails and always got the job done.

  • @NateGBakker

    @NateGBakker

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sarah McClure I feel like team USA will always need a leader like Chellsie, she was fantastic. If Ali Raisman makes it for 2016, (which I highly suspect) she'll fit that role.

  • @2134knees

    @2134knees

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Sarah McClure I like Chelsea too. This year, if Aly or Gabby make the team I could see either one of them taking the leadership role.

  • @almajurisic16

    @almajurisic16

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Nate B She did and during the quals in Rio you could tell that even though Simone is technically the captain, Aly was still leading the team.

  • @MsSM1999

    @MsSM1999

    7 жыл бұрын

    Nope, Aly is the captain, not Simone

  • @colleenbauhaus7486

    @colleenbauhaus7486

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@almajurisic16 Simone was never the Captain of the Rio team. It was Aly. Simone was always the best gymnast and she always won. But she was never the Captain or leader of the team. That was Amy's role the whole time.

  • @juliachaloupka
    @juliachaloupka9 жыл бұрын

    Love me some nastia on bars but NO to that bars execution score, you could easily find that many deductions on the dismount alone.

  • @oandasagvids6238

    @oandasagvids6238

    9 жыл бұрын

    Ikr

  • @ncikdelta7851

    @ncikdelta7851

    4 жыл бұрын

    You only find errors on dismount other are perfect

  • @matthewlavezzoli5958

    @matthewlavezzoli5958

    4 жыл бұрын

    ncik delta nope, her full pirouettes were more over than her 1.5. Those needed deductions

  • @Janellabelle

    @Janellabelle

    4 жыл бұрын

    I think her having arguably the most difficult bar routine in the world, and definitely in the USA, made the judges less inclined to bitch about the super little things. They took off for the dismount obviously, but at the time that was by far the most difficult bar routine in the world and it deserved to score like it.

  • @ineedhoez

    @ineedhoez

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah... watching in 2020 and I am dumbfounded. She missed quite a few handstands on those turns. *Edit* missed as in not perfectly over the bar. She didn't blow them. Just should have had some deductions.

  • @sso.blueskye
    @sso.blueskye4 жыл бұрын

    1:25 sam peszek picking up the tongs in the watermelon dish and then not even using them to get the watermelon made me laugh so much lmao

  • @depressedcolombian1999
    @depressedcolombian19994 жыл бұрын

    Martha Karoly made life for these girls a living hell, she shouldn't be praised

  • @Saleigh

    @Saleigh

    3 жыл бұрын

    Agree

  • @nathan10120

    @nathan10120

    3 жыл бұрын

    If she made life living hell then why did Shawn, Aly, and Simone all say that Martha was extremely kind?

  • @lighthousea4655

    @lighthousea4655

    2 жыл бұрын

    She and her monster husband should be in prison.

  • @lighthousea4655

    @lighthousea4655

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@nathan10120 It’s called B.S.

  • @sherineill6630

    @sherineill6630

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. The Karolye’s were given way too much power in the world of gymnastics. Their only concerns were gold medals.

  • @cottnncandy
    @cottnncandy8 жыл бұрын

    31:00 see that's what I loved about Shawns work ethic, her and her coach agreed that time in the gym is important but time outside of the gym is just as important. It reminds you why you're passionate about gymnastics. If you're in the gym 24/7 with constant pressure it can really eat away at your happiness

  • @ineedhoez

    @ineedhoez

    4 жыл бұрын

    But that is with anything though. Even with work and studying. At a certain point more time doesn't equal better performance. It is right around that 3 to 4 hours mark. If you spend 8 hours studying, I can guarantee you didn't absorb 8 hours worth of information.

  • @Taynia27
    @Taynia2710 жыл бұрын

    Nastia has such beautiful lines. Wow! Shawn is just powerful. No wobbles just bam. Hit that skill and move on. It's just sickning how these gymnasts can do these crazy hard skills on a 4 inch balance beam

  • @CoachJulie193
    @CoachJulie19310 жыл бұрын

    my favorite part of this competition was chellsie memmel's vault "excuse me mr. daggett?" lol shut him right up

  • @gerardogarmendia3360
    @gerardogarmendia33607 жыл бұрын

    At 1:15:53 Alicia just touching the bars and leaving 😂😂 I know she didn't compete bars but it was funny

  • @Enjouchi

    @Enjouchi

    14 күн бұрын

    The way the judge clapped for her too lol

  • @susandilaudo9534
    @susandilaudo95343 жыл бұрын

    i wasnt a huge fan of memmel back then, probably bc i didnt understand the code; now??? i freaking LOVE her. her gymnastics looks better than ever. i love how she is doing gymnastics on HER terms, now; no ranch to have to answer to, just her and HER own gymnastics, with her dad's help along the way. freaking QUEEN

  • @jacobsarver5199
    @jacobsarver51999 жыл бұрын

    I like how even the commentators were surprised by all the extremely high execution score!

  • @kras118

    @kras118

    8 жыл бұрын

    totally agree. a bit over the top and even Tim and Elfie called it out. not useful in getting ready for Olympics, unfortunately.

  • @myerklamb8529

    @myerklamb8529

    4 жыл бұрын

    Could you imagine them here in 2019 with the current scoring system? The judges are absolutely brutal now even though the actual execution continues to slowly improve.

  • @kaylajones4356
    @kaylajones43566 жыл бұрын

    It breaks my heart to see Mattie Larson here knowing what she was probs going through at the time with that horrible disgusting Larry Nassar.

  • @alexisa.3434

    @alexisa.3434

    3 жыл бұрын

    I know! Going back and watching old meets and now knowing what was going on , is crazy!

  • @nathan10120

    @nathan10120

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well he’s spending 63 years in prison so ya

  • @marcushamner5994

    @marcushamner5994

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too. At least he’s never getting out. Nassar is not getting paroled.

  • @ruthmiller9346
    @ruthmiller93466 жыл бұрын

    I love how they are amazed by Alicia’s height on vault lol wait till they meet mckayla

  • @myerklamb8529

    @myerklamb8529

    4 жыл бұрын

    In all honesty, Alicia's Rudi is still probably the best it's ever been done. McKayla was also obviously an amazing and legendary vaulter, but I just loved watching Sacramones power and attitude in the arena.

  • @triplefull7057

    @triplefull7057

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@myerklamb8529 Ya I agree Alica was most more powerful than Myckalaya. Alicia's rudi is as as good as it gets

  • @leelalita7402
    @leelalita740210 ай бұрын

    i wish i could just hug shawn and commend her on her strength. she was at this level redefining limits in gymnastics while battling a major eating disorder, that is bravery. she really is an inspiration

  • @sydneylynn1953
    @sydneylynn19534 жыл бұрын

    Judging was a JOKE. A 17.1 on bars with visible errors?? This competition is a prime example of how the US inflated their scores prior to Beijing and it came back to bite them.

  • @nathan10120

    @nathan10120

    3 жыл бұрын

    But Shawn scored even higher in the olympics than she did here on beam and floor.

  • @josephqualtier961

    @josephqualtier961

    Жыл бұрын

    Not rly… nastia scored 16.9 at the Olympics don’t be dramatic

  • @loridunevant6973

    @loridunevant6973

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe you should have been a judge since you know soooo much

  • @taylorburtis

    @taylorburtis

    Жыл бұрын

    Sorry, but you are just wrong lol. The entire quads scoring was inflated, because it was the first quad that did difficulty plus execution added together. The new scoring had a lot of issues, and really only levelled out in 2009.

  • @nmixx.changeupletsgo

    @nmixx.changeupletsgo

    29 күн бұрын

    @@josephqualtier961 Yeah bc she did better at the Olympics. She had a HUGE step on the dismount here. Back then in the code it was 0.3 (now it's 0.5).. you're telling me there was only 0.1 to take off from the entire routine? Get real.

  • @Allieclaire26
    @Allieclaire268 жыл бұрын

    Shawn was so young! she will forever be my favorite along with gabby :)

  • @tatilalima2874

    @tatilalima2874

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤍

  • @susanbrooks9317

    @susanbrooks9317

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mine too; such a fireball!!

  • @Janellabelle
    @Janellabelle4 жыл бұрын

    Aw the shot of Shawn all alone sitting by herself was sad. it's lonely at the top. If she was competing now during the "power tumbler era" she would be a great Biles opponent.

  • @roanjorna4698

    @roanjorna4698

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shawn is amazing but I dont think she's a Biles opponent. Maybe tho

  • @jordanstibal8834

    @jordanstibal8834

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shawn has actually talked about this and she said that Chow wanted her extremely focused and therefore, in her own focused bubble, so that’s why she was sitting by herself.

  • @murasakino101

    @murasakino101

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@roanjorna4698 I think she could could have been! Simone has her beat in floor and vault but shawn definitely had more difficulty in her beam routine. As far bars, I would say they might be neck and neck since it's an event their both weak on but still have enough difficulty to possibly medal and they're consistent on it

  • @saragrant9749

    @saragrant9749

    2 ай бұрын

    @@roanjorna4698on beam Shawn had what Simple has only rarely shown- CONSISTENCY.

  • @vannthybun2546
    @vannthybun254610 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Johnson will always be one of my favorite gymnasts but I really don't understand her choice of music? It doesn't seem like her floor routine matches the music very well

  • @charlotteswaps5179

    @charlotteswaps5179

    6 жыл бұрын

    Steve Young actually they had to change her music and basically swap it because they did not w at it to be copy righted but Shawn doid not have enough time to make a completely new routine so she stuck with here own stuff

  • @emilybergonzi4667
    @emilybergonzi46679 жыл бұрын

    Crazy to see how the scoring has changed execution wise even in the past few years.

  • @kras118
    @kras1189 жыл бұрын

    Alicia's run is SO powerful !

  • @eMthegymnast
    @eMthegymnast10 жыл бұрын

    why does he act like shawns bar routine is bad and "she just needs to get through it" geeze the only person that just needs to get through bars with that much fear of it was alicia sacromone and she stopped doing bars a long time ago! lol

  • @hmrhuang
    @hmrhuang3 жыл бұрын

    NO WAY Liukin should have scored a 17.1 on that UB exercise!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Kaesi_

    @Kaesi_

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes she did i know I couldn’t believe it either 😂😂

  • @katienatorious
    @katienatorious8 жыл бұрын

    Man I felt bad for Shawn. Shawn was always loved by the crowds but the other girls seemed to dislike her.

  • @NateGBakker

    @NateGBakker

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Katie Doyle I totally felt like they shunned her! Nastia was my favorite back then, but I just watched night one and night two and I sort of felt like she was a big part of that! Poor Shawn, they couldn't pick on a sweeter girl, either.

  • @Sarahhh818

    @Sarahhh818

    8 жыл бұрын

    They were probably jealous

  • @cottnncandy

    @cottnncandy

    8 жыл бұрын

    Jealousy is a green eyed monster. It also could be Shawn just isolating herself for focusings sake. Hopefully they were nice to her once they all went back to the ranch at the end of the day :(

  • @annie-maicr1122

    @annie-maicr1122

    8 жыл бұрын

    +seb1999 I think that too 😳😳😳😳😳😳

  • @2134knees

    @2134knees

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Katie Doyle I felt bad for her too.

  • @annapeterson8272
    @annapeterson82729 жыл бұрын

    I really didn't expect to watch all of this XD

  • @taylorburtis
    @taylorburtis2 жыл бұрын

    As much as I love Nastia as a person and her gymnastics, she was so overscored. So many gymnasts were in the shadows, not getting the recognition they deserved. Jana, Mattie, Sam, Brigitte. She deserved to be at the Olympics, but she did not deserve gold.

  • @beambreaker

    @beambreaker

    Жыл бұрын

    She won the all around that day fair and square. She was the best in the world that day and it mattered.

  • @CourtneyK87
    @CourtneyK877 жыл бұрын

    I love watching nastia. Her form and poise is amazing.

  • @lizmiller7681
    @lizmiller76814 жыл бұрын

    Watching this in 2020 & loving it. Just waiting for 2020 Olympics! ⚡️🤸‍♀️⚡️

  • @nicolegreen6982

    @nicolegreen6982

    4 жыл бұрын

    So sad it's postponed an entire year because of coronavirus 😭

  • @Lea-cp8gi
    @Lea-cp8gi4 жыл бұрын

    Watching in 2019 😂 in my opinion, Shawn should have won that all around gold in 2008 olympics, bars was the only thing that gave Nastia the gold medal

  • @Constantin9va

    @Constantin9va

    4 жыл бұрын

    The Crafty Artist if you watch the routines side by side on the day of the Olympic AA competition, it’s clear that Nastia deserved the win. I’d love to debate this tho!

  • @poldavila2580

    @poldavila2580

    4 жыл бұрын

    I do prefer Shawn’s gymnastics, but Nastia had the best day at the AA Olympic Final. Timing counts.

  • @johannas5622

    @johannas5622

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nastia won by six tenths and was pretty much perfect that day. She absolutely deserved it.

  • @trapezemiley
    @trapezemiley8 жыл бұрын

    SAMs beam. Best I've seen

  • @trapezemiley

    @trapezemiley

    8 жыл бұрын

    God Chelsea's was good too. How is this the team that didn't do well on beam at worlds?

  • @juliamorrison265

    @juliamorrison265

    8 жыл бұрын

    +beautybyelle Shawn fell, and Nastia only did a back tuck dismount

  • @ElectrikkPaperClipxx

    @ElectrikkPaperClipxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@trapezemiley the two of them are criminally underrated

  • @knequestrian93
    @knequestrian936 жыл бұрын

    I do not understand how Jana bieger didn't the fair judging in gymnastics.. she was one of my favorites! She was actually the most dependable gymnast in that quad

  • @saragrant9749

    @saragrant9749

    Жыл бұрын

    Not in 2008 she wasn’t, unfortunately. By that time many other athletes had surpassed her in difficulty and execution (the deductions WERE there), and she really had lost a place with the team given how strong others had gotten. She was definitely on the other hand treated wrongly by the Karolys. Sad to say, she’d have been better off joining the German team- that would have at least gotten her to the Olympics- but definitely not a medal contender.

  • @RobertJohnson-hx7bk
    @RobertJohnson-hx7bk8 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Johnson 4 life!

  • @jamm1227
    @jamm122710 жыл бұрын

    You cant even compare them.. Shawn was one of the FIRST girls to do that vault, and she upgraded her vault just for the Olympics.She only had like what? less than one month to REALLY train it.. mean while NOW that vault is standard, they even down graded it to a 6.3 because girls like gabby and wieber and maroney have had way more time to be able to perfect it.

  • @adamtravis9380

    @adamtravis9380

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ade O. Shawn started training it in 2007

  • @adamtravis9380

    @adamtravis9380

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ade O. She was actually even ready to compete it in 2007... i believe she first began training it in the gym in 2006, first started competing it in 2008

  • @daviswetter

    @daviswetter

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ade O. Now it's 5.8

  • @ElectrikkPaperClipxx

    @ElectrikkPaperClipxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    The revisionist history is strong with this one.

  • @Mumissa
    @Mumissa5 жыл бұрын

    Is it just me or do the gymnasts do unique skills that we don’t see that much anymore?

  • @neversaygoodluck

    @neversaygoodluck

    4 жыл бұрын

    They do, but skills come and go depending on the code of points. A lot of unique skills while amazing to look at just aren't worth it because of their lower value.

  • @RobertJohnson-hx7bk
    @RobertJohnson-hx7bk7 жыл бұрын

    good god nastia's dad put alot of pressure on her!

  • @giocurve
    @giocurve6 жыл бұрын

    Even though Shawn is more powerful and has more difficulty than Nastia on Floor... But I can't stop being drawn to Nastia's floor routine.. The artistry, the elegance, the beauty of her style and art-form is just quite a masterpiece.

  • @MerielGrace
    @MerielGrace9 жыл бұрын

    The leos look so beautiful! 😀

  • @ibbiisspecial
    @ibbiisspecial11 жыл бұрын

    THANKYOU

  • @katieingram2302
    @katieingram23027 жыл бұрын

    I love Shawn

  • @tfelling3230
    @tfelling32304 жыл бұрын

    If Nastia got rid of the extra mat on her bar dismount.. She prob wlda been more consistent w landing

  • @MargauxLee98
    @MargauxLee9810 жыл бұрын

    Wow... MAJOR over scoring

  • @411MooCow

    @411MooCow

    7 жыл бұрын

    Different quad! the rules of scoring were changed in 2006, and they were still trying to balance the code here!

  • @neversaygoodluck

    @neversaygoodluck

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@411MooCow It's also a domestic meet, even to this day you generally see higher scores at domestic meets.

  • @edclench9573
    @edclench95739 жыл бұрын

    This scoring is ridiculous! I do t know why the us judges do this it just gives the gymnasts unrealistic hopes

  • @leslietrejo7409
    @leslietrejo74094 жыл бұрын

    we love being quarantined and watching these competitions

  • @laurenraubaugh9542
    @laurenraubaugh95429 жыл бұрын

    Ha at Tim saying that Valeri won four gold medals in 1988... he won 4 medals, but only 2 of them were gold. Still amazingly impressive, but fact-check please! It's just like how a few newscasters post-2008 Olys introduced Shawn as the gymnast who won 4 gold medals. :/

  • @tackssherbo7104

    @tackssherbo7104

    9 жыл бұрын

    Lauren Raubaugh Agree. Agree. Agree. They talk and talk and talk. It's impossible to remember everyone's history. So, you would think that they would have a cheat sheet with some accurate numbers they could use. Goes to show they don't have to worry about their jobs much so don't put in extra effort..

  • @graceconerly4359
    @graceconerly435911 жыл бұрын

    nastia's score i thought was a little high.

  • @Janellabelle

    @Janellabelle

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was the most difficult bar routine in the world, and she made it look damn good. Her score should reflect that.

  • @chinghxd
    @chinghxd11 жыл бұрын

    that's how progression works though; it could be said with any skill in the past now to present. There was hardly anyone performing the Amanar because of the risks back then; she was performing it alone and she was landing on two feet. a pretty good feat =).

  • @graceandaliayah7720
    @graceandaliayah77207 жыл бұрын

    Go Shawn Johnson

  • @FlorzinhaDraw
    @FlorzinhaDraw4 жыл бұрын

    Idk why but I feel bad for Jana, she was completely betrayed and left aside by USAG, I think she should have accepted her mother's invitation to compete in the Germany team, she would have been much better used, and would have her place in the Olympics practically assured. I think she should have opened her eyes earlier and lefted behind the whole "I'm American!" thing and realized that the USAG was just paying attention to the little group of gymnasts they had already formed and were rejecting her more and more

  • @Kayyleeeeee

    @Kayyleeeeee

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m so angry she wasn’t on that 2008 team. I would have taken her over Bridget or Sam

  • @Kayyleeeeee

    @Kayyleeeeee

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also wish she would have competed for Germany, she would have had more opportunities

  • @saragrant9749

    @saragrant9749

    Жыл бұрын

    Her performance as time went on did not match those who made the team, that’s the reality. By 2008 you had to have upgraded your difficulty quite a bit- and she unfortunately didn’t. Germany would definitely have been a better choice, but if she’d gone she’d never have medaled.

  • @Lea-cp8gi
    @Lea-cp8gi4 жыл бұрын

    Shawn should have won the Olympic all around. My opinion. Personally I don’t take to Nastia. She seems to walk around with her nose in the air thinking she’s better than everyone else. Her red carpet lifestyle now makes her so unrelateable. I don’t actually know what job she does for it 😂

  • @neversaygoodluck

    @neversaygoodluck

    4 жыл бұрын

    You can feel how you want about Nastia as a person, but she had the meet of her life at the Olympics. She was better on the day it counted. Also Shawn isn't that relatable. Unless it's common to use your child to make money.

  • @meganhigley8838

    @meganhigley8838

    4 жыл бұрын

    Valeri had a successful gym when Nastia was still just a young girl. He didn't need Nastia to make money. You sound psychotic.

  • @johannas5622

    @johannas5622

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nastia won by six tenths in Beijing and was pretty much perfect on every event. Even if you say that bars specialists were favored in that quad, Nastia still deserved it. Her routine was so much longer and more exhausting than Shawn's, that's why her dismounts mostly looked bad. Nastia stuck her landings and had great form, no wobbles on beam and great landings on floor as well. She totally deserved it.

  • @lexb3229
    @lexb32294 жыл бұрын

    So just throwing this out there but, Al made (for once) a decent point. He said, "in these days..... Bc we dont see very many of them, a stuck landing has to count for something." I feel like in this code and in future ones the gymmasts should get bonus to their d-score if they actually "stick" their landings..... What do you guys think?

  • @auspicious93

    @auspicious93

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lex B I think there used to be such thing as a domestic stick bonus? Like, one of Simone’s Amanars (2015 nationals, I think) received a 0.1 stick bonus.

  • @Lili-sw9st
    @Lili-sw9st3 жыл бұрын

    Who’s here after Chellsie announced her comeback?!

  • @marcushamner5994

    @marcushamner5994

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am!!😍🙋🏾‍♂️

  • @auspicious93
    @auspicious937 жыл бұрын

    Hey! Nashville's a fantastic city, Alicia!

  • @gifthorse9779

    @gifthorse9779

    6 жыл бұрын

    99miyah great music scene!

  • @auspicious93

    @auspicious93

    5 жыл бұрын

    ​@@gifthorse9779 lol, totally. I say that as a graduate of a conservatory there haha :)

  • @ashleynoelle1632
    @ashleynoelle16325 жыл бұрын

    Thats how you know shawn was amazing only trains 4 hours a day

  • @KandeShack
    @KandeShack4 жыл бұрын

    Watching this in 2019 makes me want to throw up knowing that not one of those adults protected these girls from Nassar!

  • @gifthorse9779
    @gifthorse97795 жыл бұрын

    I can't help thinking of Catalina Ponor when I see Alicia Sacramone on beam. Kind of similar. Especially the arm movements and the flow.

  • @connorrigley7668
    @connorrigley76685 жыл бұрын

    My heart started to melt when I saw Shawn Johnson alone

  • @JennaLeigh

    @JennaLeigh

    5 жыл бұрын

    Same. Women can be incredibly cruel....teenage girls infinitely more cruel. I cannot even imagine at this elite level of competition how much worse it is. Just awful.

  • @Star-ft2gd

    @Star-ft2gd

    5 жыл бұрын

    Watch her channel she says that was her and chows strategy to stay in right head space!

  • @Janellabelle

    @Janellabelle

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Star-ft2gd oh wow really so she wanted to sit alone? It made me sad... I thought, "lonely at the top".

  • @ElectrikkPaperClipxx

    @ElectrikkPaperClipxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    She said she was instructed to do so 🤦‍♀️

  • @TsubasaDreams
    @TsubasaDreams11 жыл бұрын

    Could you please post the Olympic Trials too?

  • @TheAnnatheonly
    @TheAnnatheonly4 жыл бұрын

    Love seeing Shawn crush it!

  • @susanbrooks9317

    @susanbrooks9317

    2 жыл бұрын

    My very favorite!

  • @immaslaveforyou
    @immaslaveforyou11 жыл бұрын

    right! now if someone performed it like that it would be considered bad but in 2008 there were hardly no one performing it due to the risk so the fact that she performed it alone was amazing back then.

  • @camspearman8590
    @camspearman85902 жыл бұрын

    I feel like Sam was so underrated.

  • @FuzzballFury
    @FuzzballFury9 жыл бұрын

    I never noticed the rhinestones on Nastia's leo until tonight haha

  • @omgkat
    @omgkat11 жыл бұрын

    Its because its so well known to do to this day. Back then, no one else was even thinking about training the amanar.

  • @cristi0771
    @cristi077111 жыл бұрын

    Uhhh...why was the video cut off? Is there suppose to be a part 2 to this?

  • @jessicafrawley5856
    @jessicafrawley58562 жыл бұрын

    i was a big shawn fan back then! i wish she had done a bit more than she is now. like stuck with gym longer, gone to college even. i always thought she seemed like a smart kid.

  • @NYCBlonde
    @NYCBlonde11 жыл бұрын

    The judge with the flag at 50:05 looks very much like the judge whose jaw dropped at McKayla's perfect vault during team finals in London--I just did a quick Google search to see if I could figure out who that judge was but no luck. Can anyone say how to access a lineup of judges for a particular meet?

  • @alannabrown4
    @alannabrown46 ай бұрын

    3:46 Nastia Vault 5:06 Bridget Beam 7:29 Chellsie Bars 9:35 Alicia Beam 12:28 Shawn Vault 18:03 Samantha Beam 21:51 Chellsie Beam 24:34 Alicia Floor 30:09 Shawn Bars 33:04 Nastia Bars 35:43 Samantha Floor 50:18 Samantha Vault 52:17 Alicia Vault 55:50 Shawn Beam 1:00:14 Nastia Beam 1:03:29 Chellsie Floor 1:11:49 Samantha Bars 1:11:47 Chellsie Vault 1:16:23 Shawn Floor 1:20:11 Nastia Floor

  • @DaniiVeiga1
    @DaniiVeiga110 жыл бұрын

    16.2 for Shawn Johnson on the Floor? WTF??? This is ridiculous!!

  • @skyelizsam
    @skyelizsam2 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe Alicia didn't get deducted for her 2 feet out of bounds on her second pass. She was visibly out of bounds!

  • @karinagomes2839

    @karinagomes2839

    10 ай бұрын

    9.150 as on that beam execution like what? is this college gymnastics or something like that???

  • @somethingelse9176
    @somethingelse91762 жыл бұрын

    Besides everything else that annoys me about Tim, Elfi said Samantha stepped on the line when vaulting, not over it, and he basically just ignored her.

  • @burnbrighter13
    @burnbrighter1310 жыл бұрын

    Is anyone else comparing 08's visas with 12's visas as well? ;)

  • @dbishop1961
    @dbishop19617 жыл бұрын

    Alicia's arm movements on the beam were a little much. I'm a fan of her in general, but I don't get all of the arm waving.

  • @somethingelse9176
    @somethingelse9176 Жыл бұрын

    Man, Chellsie's bars were FIRE. Oh for a clean routine for her in the Olympic quals.

  • @russianskatingfan
    @russianskatingfan10 жыл бұрын

    I do not agree 2008 is the first time the U.S had 2 women who could legitimately vye for gold in the AA the Olympics. 1992- Miller, Zmeskal 1996- Dawes, Moceanu, maybe Miller 2004- Patterson, Kupets 1984- (with boycott and Szabo`s famous nerves) McNamara, Retton Al know NOTHING about gymnastics.

  • @kras118

    @kras118

    8 жыл бұрын

    While I agree the US has had 2 strong all-around era in the past, the fact is there were too many other threats (Szabo, Gutsu, Bogi, Milo, Khorkina, Zhang, etc etc) who factored in tremendously. Johnson/Liukin really were the top 2 options in Beijing

  • @russianskatingfan

    @russianskatingfan

    8 жыл бұрын

    kras118 yeah it was the first time the U.S had the 2 clear favorites. However there were other times they had 2 possible gold contenders in the AA. Miller and Zmeskal in 92, Dawes and Miller and Moceanu in 96, Patterson and Kupets in 04.

  • @almajurisic16

    @almajurisic16

    7 жыл бұрын

    Mocenau peaked WAY before the Olympics and messed up constantly the year leading up to them. As long as I remember Dawes was never even mentioned in the AA contention.

  • @russianskatingfan

    @russianskatingfan

    7 жыл бұрын

    ajlove2013 whether or not Dawes was supposed to contend in the AA she LED the AA halfway through so she obviously was a gold contender. I know full well none of Miller, Dawes, or Moceanu were favored to win the AA or even maybe medal, but each were among those who could win the AA if lilia and Mo Huilan made mistakes.

  • @falpalemily
    @falpalemily11 ай бұрын

    Nastia’s routines Vault 3:45 Bars 32:45 Beam 1:00:12 Floor 1:20:08

  • @Lea-cp8gi
    @Lea-cp8gi3 жыл бұрын

    I love Nastia but mann I really though Shawn should have won the all around!! Nastia has bars that’s it really

  • @mooncloudplayz1633

    @mooncloudplayz1633

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...Louisa Emma...i felt the same...

  • @saipan6704
    @saipan67044 жыл бұрын

    Can we talk about Chelsies dads physique? 👀🤣🥵

  • @juliamcgowan.recruitment
    @juliamcgowan.recruitment5 жыл бұрын

    I don’t understand why Nastia changed her dismount to a double front with a half because her double layout was beautiful. I know it has more difficulty but she could have found another dismount that she did well and that added difficulty to her routine

  • @somethingelse9176

    @somethingelse9176

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe after her injury she a) couldn't land a double front on her bad ankle (see the 2007 Visas for her dramatic fall) and b) had grown a few inches to the point that she couldn't do the double layout anymore. I agree with you that the front + half was so often messy, but I don't know what other options her body gave her.

  • @thecatspajamas8918

    @thecatspajamas8918

    Жыл бұрын

    Her form on that dismount was so sloppy.

  • @yasseradel5456
    @yasseradel54565 жыл бұрын

    More more better than those of2016

  • @maiweber9948
    @maiweber99483 жыл бұрын

    Such a different mindset now, seeing Marta and these gymnasts, knowing what happened with Nassar.

  • @fluffyduffyasmr3861
    @fluffyduffyasmr38614 жыл бұрын

    literally i’ve never seen anyone else do that nastia luikin skill on beam other than nastia, GO BRIDGET!

  • @mooncloudplayz1633

    @mooncloudplayz1633

    3 жыл бұрын

    ...and i never seen anyone float across the beam with a mix of elegance, power, and precision...something Nastia lacks...Shawn definitely got robbed of the All-Around at the Olympics...idk why...possibly Nastia father's name, politics or both...Nonetheless...Shawn will forever be the 2008 Olympic GOAT...!

  • @jyosefr
    @jyosefr11 жыл бұрын

    I do not believe USAG owns the rights to that broadcast.

  • @BigThunderFan
    @BigThunderFan7 жыл бұрын

    how can you not think about an injury when your doing gymnastics like how many landings the injury can handle? of course your mind is going to be on that injury which takes your mind off your gymnastics a little bit

  • @Kayyleeeeee
    @Kayyleeeeee2 жыл бұрын

    Why does these beam routines seem Harder in this era as compared to now ?

  • @frankiewahl
    @frankiewahl10 жыл бұрын

    “Chow has coached Shawn since her first front roll!” Actually no, she went to another gym for three years before she went to Chow's.

  • @yorkchender

    @yorkchender

    10 жыл бұрын

    Ok, but come on she started at Chow's as soon as it opened and she was only 6! That's pretty much from front rolls to Olympian!

  • @YaYaPaBla

    @YaYaPaBla

    7 ай бұрын

    Maybe he worked at that other gym?

  • @ExplorHits
    @ExplorHits6 жыл бұрын

    Nastia got several shameless overscoring there

  • @johannas5622

    @johannas5622

    4 жыл бұрын

    They were all overscored. Nastia's dismount on bars is very deductable and she didn't hit every handstand. Shawn however had several leg separations on beam, had a low chest on her skills and on her landing, her splits aren't on point and her dance elements on floor are really questionable which weren't all credited in Beijing.

  • @haileeoconnor1605
    @haileeoconnor16053 жыл бұрын

    Shades of Simone Biles of shawn's Floor Exercise

  • @tomillakockingbird1754
    @tomillakockingbird17544 жыл бұрын

    "Second place" is the worst thing"??!! What a horrible thing to say to someone you're coaching, especially your own daughter. It puts additional unnecessary pressure on Nastia, that's for sure.

  • @somethingelse9176

    @somethingelse9176

    Жыл бұрын

    I think you're taking this out of context. Valeri said it *about* Nastia, not to her, and he said it as someone who knew his daughter.

  • @matthewhines9787
    @matthewhines978710 ай бұрын

    1:15:25 Whoa! How have I never noticed Andy Memmel's abs before?

  • @johnxfactor
    @johnxfactor11 жыл бұрын

    I love shawn Johnson

  • @CarolinayAna93
    @CarolinayAna939 жыл бұрын

    I feel bad for Shawn ( 28:19 ) sitting all by herself she never talks to anyone or at least she didn't until she got to the Olympics with her new team anyway.... I really like her she´s got the talent and all... but still my fave are Nastia and Alicia

  • @kahleagrapperhaus1245

    @kahleagrapperhaus1245

    9 жыл бұрын

    I know she always is sitting by herself and never really talks to anyone

  • @oandasagvids6238

    @oandasagvids6238

    9 жыл бұрын

    Well she does that to herself... Maybe she needs to mentally prepare. I do that too

  • @2134knees

    @2134knees

    8 жыл бұрын

    +YoMeMyselfAndI I feel bad for her too. I think she just needed that time to refocus and reenergize.

  • @Star-ft2gd

    @Star-ft2gd

    5 жыл бұрын

    It was her and chows strategy to keep her in the right headspace

  • @unknown-lf6zx
    @unknown-lf6zx Жыл бұрын

    Nastia was so elegant! ❤

  • @colesmith7509
    @colesmith75095 жыл бұрын

    Nastia's bars have always been grosly overscored.

  • @Janellabelle

    @Janellabelle

    4 жыл бұрын

    It was the most difficult bar routine in the world at the time. She made it look good too. Her score deserved to reflect that.

  • @stardust6272
    @stardust62723 жыл бұрын

    How did Alicia Sacramone score a 15.85 (9.65 execution) after stepping both feet out of bounds on Floor exercise?!

  • @Sharmuta6311

    @Sharmuta6311

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sacramone shouldn't have been anywhere near Beijing, nor this competition.

  • @ethanvaneck2971
    @ethanvaneck29713 жыл бұрын

    Hw did alicia score a 15.95 on beam but samantha only got a 16. Dobte judges have eyes?

  • @somethingelse9176
    @somethingelse91762 жыл бұрын

    Shawn Johnson was ahead of her time.

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