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@tyb25264 жыл бұрын
Defense, fast breaks, ball movement, no forced or low percentage shots... this is real basketball.
@lurking0death
Ай бұрын
At the end of this series the "experts" were still trying to figure it out. It was superb hustling hard-nosed defence along with disciplined well executed offense. The Lakers got out-worked and out-played by a bunch of young gritty Pistons. Great upset!
@thegreat1956 жыл бұрын
Die hard laker fan here but this pistons team is a very underrated championship team. They had a sharp shooting clutch play making PG. a scoring SG. an elite defending SF. A stretch 4 and an enforcer in the paint. Just a really really complete team
@pgai824
11 ай бұрын
I like the Lakers a lot, but I'm a Pistons fan and remember watching this series as a kid. Rip Hamilton was a monster and our D was tough!
@optimusprimeshead5369
8 ай бұрын
Which is hilarious considering they won all of 1 title together
@shwickid222
7 ай бұрын
@@optimusprimeshead5369 hey we almost went back to back. our record was even better in 05 that year.
@Theterminato2013
7 ай бұрын
@@shwickid222How tho?! The Pistons finished with the same exact W/L RS record 54-28 in both 2004 & 2005.
@DenizAtay9 жыл бұрын
I miss this DEFENSE..! This is real basketball.
@berkeleydojah
9 жыл бұрын
Deniz Atay if you pass gas these days its a technical...
@zeddthegreat3984
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah True 2000's Basketball is the best
@pp3k3jamail
6 жыл бұрын
Zedd Rosenberg not really it was way to Manny low scoring games in the 2000s. 90s basketball was the best.
@pp3k3jamail
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Peter dude shut up
@ljpalorcruz1147
5 жыл бұрын
Truly is. This was when any team barely reaches 100 in a finals game even in a blowout like this Game 3. just WOW!
@jordandowns52367 жыл бұрын
Am i the only one who think the 2004 finals was so smooth and classic to watch
@zeddthegreat3984
6 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Loganbub
6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Downs yes. Very few finals now a days feels like this anymore, it all feels cheap and fabricated now a days. In part due to the high octane social media age with athletes, super teams, but also due to the vastly different playing style now a days which (as incredible as it is at times) has made real tough, gritty, every possession is critical basketball (the very best kind) extinct.
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
la as a team had 49 points with prime shaq and prime kobe and gary payton karl malone fisher george walton rush slava with 4 seconds to go in the 3rd lol ....like what?...that dont make no sense...LeBron today alone scored 46 points 12 rebounds and 5 assists
@Kennyisdarkvanilla
5 жыл бұрын
I feel the reason why is cuz most NBA Finals are predictable. Usually we already know how the series is gonna go. 2004 and 2011 were the only upsets that no one expected and that’s why everyone loves them. They didn’t feel scripted.
@asmrvish8871
5 жыл бұрын
KennyD and now2019 finals lolol
@dylanlange92355 жыл бұрын
Imagine scoring 68 points in a Finals game.
@shermanngjazz
4 жыл бұрын
Try 67 for the Celtics in game 6 in the 2010 finals
@alexajlouni5351
4 жыл бұрын
and shaq and kobe believe their team can beat 15-16 warriors haahah
@mohammedbabaki1534
4 жыл бұрын
And there’s all these idiot laker fans out there that think shaq could have averaged 50 a game for the series 🤣
@neilferrer8836
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexajlouni5351 lol lakers 2000-2002 can beat any warriors team. Can't even three peat for fucksake haha.
@chongdai4040
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexajlouni5351 sorry, can't imagine how 15-16 warriors can score more than 68 against 2004 pistons
@railenherman64825 ай бұрын
Kobe Bryant’s worst playoff game. 11 points on 30% with 4 TOV’s. That Pistons defense was incredible, and the home crowd brought the energy.
@gaddyrejano47686 жыл бұрын
A kobe and shaq team held under 70pts...
@livingdream2284
Жыл бұрын
With Karl Malone
@HansLotap
Ай бұрын
With gary payton and derek fisher.
@veryliberalprogressiveathe61176 жыл бұрын
The Pistons were the better team because of team defense and stifling pressure. They shut down the Lakers.
@kanikypaul12608 жыл бұрын
Detroit played 90's style ball this series
@sageantone7291
4 жыл бұрын
no. '80s.
@TheSands83
4 жыл бұрын
Sage Antone 80s wasn’t a lot of defense being played.. it’s 90s
@viciousny5958
3 жыл бұрын
No, 04 Pistons played better defense than any team from 90's. Only 93 Knicks comes close. Check the numbers
@ak740_8 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious still seeing laker fans crying about this lol. The Pistons were a vastly superior team, deal with it.
@michaelcabrera3942
8 жыл бұрын
+arman1261 what's funny is darko has a ring and melo still dont lol what couldve been
@hiphoprbloverjon9180
8 жыл бұрын
I'm not crying.
@lakers1436
8 жыл бұрын
Not really. I'm surprised they even got through San Antonio. I do think if lakers were at full strength they would've given the pistons a hard fought series
@infinitygauntlet101
7 жыл бұрын
They have Gary Payton and Karl Malone .. what do you mean by full strength ?
@lakers1436
7 жыл бұрын
Ric Daniel Full credit to Pistons. They had everything going for them at the right time.
@ThreeLions827 жыл бұрын
Larry Brown was a real thorn in the Lakers side.I love it.
@yeezusdropout7 жыл бұрын
if the Pistons would have drafted Wade or melo, they could have been a Dynasty
@1TotalJabroni
5 жыл бұрын
They don't trade for Sheed if they draft Melo or Wade. While I agree they definitely should have gotten one of them, without Sheed who knows if the Pistons even win one? Maybe they win 4, maybe they win 0. Without Sheed it's tough to know, his defensive versatility was special. In the end, it's safe to say this team should have been a dynasty regardless. Getting rid of Larry Brown was arguably an equally big mistake.
@CoreyT127
5 жыл бұрын
Melo would've crippled that team with his live and let live defense!
@SL-pg4dh
4 жыл бұрын
Wade yes, melo would have thrown their chemistry off.
@markitogolez0923
3 жыл бұрын
They dont need melo or wade to be a dynasty....all they need is to put Defense on....they should have won back to back if it wasnt for Horry's 3 in '05 finals....
@kevinconroy6606
3 жыл бұрын
@@SL-pg4dh everybody who says Melo would throw chemistry off is smoking crack. He was a 19 year old kid, would’ve been coming to a team full of strong personalities, with an already established culture. He absolutely would’ve fit in. He got along fine with Chauncey years later? I mean, Darko was lazy, entitled and (he even admitted himself years later) and alcoholic. Did he mess up the chemistry? No, he just got his ass benched. Corliss Williamson was never a good defender, I watching his whole career with the Kings. He was undersized vs big forwards and slow footed vs wing players. Memhmet Okur was a softie on the defensive end but he had a role and just had to play adequate D.... but as a role player they fit in FINE. Melo was absolutely a better athlete than Corliss/Memo, playing in a culture of effort, work and accountability he absolutely would’ve learned better man to man defense. You guys forget he was in a zone w/Cuse, who traditionally doesn’t produce good defenders at the pro level. BUT Melo was still a teen with plenty of potential to learn and develop.
@antoniotrivelloni81917 ай бұрын
The Pistons were the ones to realize that the key was never stopping Shaq, it was stopping Kobe, and then stopping Kobe. Man I miss this era of Deee-troit Baaa-sketball
@GlennShook8 жыл бұрын
thanks for the video. to all youngsters out there enjoy, you will never see a true all around TEAM like that again.
@MyKittyPercy5 жыл бұрын
You will never see basketball like this again. I loved this series so much because it made the media look stupid.
@17thNO7 жыл бұрын
David Stern was rolling over in his grave during the Pistons defensive style run over those years.
@robgbaby
4 жыл бұрын
And Spurs
@wilshirewilshire2303
4 жыл бұрын
Stern was alive when that was going on.
@SL-pg4dh
4 жыл бұрын
Pistons and the spurs had the league on locked down
@wilshirewilshire2303
4 жыл бұрын
@@SL-pg4dh Typically I hate defensive teams but their finals was very entertaining, way better than Lakers/76ers, Lakers/Nets.
@nddavi58
4 жыл бұрын
but stern died this year?
@Im_1Hun7 жыл бұрын
Best defensive team in nba history '04 pistons ??
@nabeelzazaiantv4860
7 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt.
@claytonstluka4933
7 жыл бұрын
Hunter Terry they weren't even the best defensive team that season
@vincentsitto5252
7 жыл бұрын
Clayton Stluka please enlighten me on who your dumbass thinks was a better defense than the pistons? Twolves? Spurs? No
@vincentsitto5252
7 жыл бұрын
You mad Bro!? I'll give u that it's debatable
@andreialexandruparfeni7129
6 жыл бұрын
Hunter Terry 64 Celtics.
@romeosuguejr10785 жыл бұрын
15 years ago still hurts to me, but 2005 nba finals its hurts also.............. i miss you kobe bryant!
@jaybrick89737 жыл бұрын
Malone never got a ring because of Pistons and Jordan
@Doatello1991
5 жыл бұрын
truthseeker89 for life And Scottie Pippen. (“Mail doesn’t get delivered on Sunday”)
@dalmarjackson9363
5 жыл бұрын
Mostly because of Karl Malone
@AHMAD-23244 жыл бұрын
No Lakers outside of Kobe or Shaq scored in double figures until Game 5 let that sink in for a second... They had no chance!
@SLorenziify4 жыл бұрын
These Pistons were so brave, the perfect antidote to artificially-made Lakers - Malone, Payton.
@denzelcox
Жыл бұрын
Haha artificially made 😂 that team looked so generic.. almost like a 2K setup.. it actually made them look silly I could only imagine what all of those HOF’s were thinking 💭 after they were swept like that 🧹 it goes to prove you can place as many elite players together as you want but if the chemistry isn’t there you have nothing.. Malone definitely did not belong on the Lakers nor did Byron Russel.. they thought him and Malone could add to Kobe & ShaQ & it was gonna be a walk in the park.
@Agentcproductionss7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe they put the score backwards and he even said it
@antonioguglielmetti2661
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr 😂
@KaneRobot
3 жыл бұрын
He wanted the Lakers doing so bad. This commentary was pathetic the entire series. Dude was majorly butthurt that the Shaq/Kobe run was getting dismantled before his eyes.
@shashanksubramaniam1400 Жыл бұрын
The entry pass by Okur at 2:39... a beautiful, lost art in today's NBA.
@dannycooper12454 жыл бұрын
11:46 I wondered if someone turned on their TV at that moment and thought that the Lakers won 😂
@LOUIKING986 жыл бұрын
Kobe Bryant Completely shot the Lakers out of this series
@1TotalJabroni
5 жыл бұрын
The best defensive team in NBA history is the only thing that lost the Lakers this series. This Pistons team held 6 straight NBA teams to under 70 total points during the regular season. This '04 team was just special, a team I'd put up against ANY of the all-time teams simply because of that defense.
@ericheart1198
4 жыл бұрын
It was more than that. Shaq defense was horrible this series. Payton and Malone were completely non factors.
@mattlai443
4 жыл бұрын
@@ericheart1198 shaq didnt even try to jump at all
@TheSands83
4 жыл бұрын
He was awful in the finals for sure vs pistons
@chitoim2332
4 жыл бұрын
U just a kobe hater
@bertlovemorleo10968 жыл бұрын
omg that look like the old school piston
@bertlovemorleo1096
8 жыл бұрын
Kobe rules
@bertlovemorleo1096
7 жыл бұрын
You mad Bro!? this is last year post ok, I'm not worrying about that now, its done bro Lol
@bertlovemorleo1096
7 жыл бұрын
Besides Kobe didn't take that game seriously
@klarosa
4 жыл бұрын
@You mad Bro!? I think he referring to similarity to jordan rule defense
@giftbaggabriel92946 жыл бұрын
This never gets old
@grimdroid56484 жыл бұрын
Man I loved that Detroit squad.. 😍
@kanikypaul12608 жыл бұрын
That 2-3-2 was a killer if you lost a home game as the higher seed
@fernandoandrade4755
7 жыл бұрын
Thats why they changed it, to extend series to more games
@jameglittlejohn8585
6 жыл бұрын
Well don't lose at home then 😂
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
Thats why in 29 seasons only 3 teams won all 3 home games in a row in the finals...pistons in 04..and miami did it twice...2006 2012...but okay..
@greyjedilovetheh8622
6 жыл бұрын
Asmosis Jones u don't have to win all 3 games to feel the effect.
@charliedontsurf9155
6 жыл бұрын
The Pistons had no problem winning their games at home !
@kanikypaul12608 жыл бұрын
Rip was in unbelievable shape he never stopped running Kobe was so frustrated
@manuginobilisbaldspot4245 жыл бұрын
Kobe 4 of 13, 0 of 4 from 3, 5 turnovers. Shaq went 7 of 14. Should've gotten 2x as many shots. This was the game that let me know the Lakers were in deep shit.
@st4r444
11 ай бұрын
Lakers have always been vulnerable. Shaq would never come out to perimeter to defend during a screen. Most teams in 00s didn't shoot good from range. It was mostly iso. The pistons abused the lakers with alot of switching and giving up good shot for a better shot. Basically all 4 guys on Detroit can shoot and stretch the floor. None of them had ego
@Theterminato2013
7 ай бұрын
@@st4r444Not that many Big men defended the Perimeter and were mostly known as Rim Protectors. Only few had a rarity to be able to switch to guards like KG, Russell, Hakeem, Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman.
@stickshiftdriver18324 жыл бұрын
this was one of the best championship games ever. The Pistons had five good players who with great teamwork beat the most starstudded teams of all time; the Lakers with Malone and Peyton added for overkill but the meat and potatoes team had beat them. Timeless
@TaybeenTrill248
Жыл бұрын
Fluke ass championship
@baseballsoffury642
Жыл бұрын
@@TaybeenTrill248 How about no
@Simon_and_Lami
Жыл бұрын
I think 2017-2019 warriors are even star studded than this lakers team. My opinion 😊
@pragadeeshkannan4938
Жыл бұрын
@@Simon_and_Lami Did they have 4 all-time greats?
@Simon_and_Lami
Жыл бұрын
@@pragadeeshkannan4938 yup they are not yet retired that's why may not say so yet. KD, Curry, Klay and Dray are actually all time greats. Why? I believe at the level of Gary payton is Dray at least if not more. Malone has a strong argument over Klay but Klay has more rings and was vital for those rings. But on star power I can out Malone over Klay. As for KD and curry we may not be able to put Kd with Shaq or Kobe in terms of All time. But we know Curry and KD are definitely all time greats. Don't forget the warriors had Buggie Cousins and great bench.
@animoetprudentia28652 ай бұрын
Watching this finals never gets old.
@jeffgunderson72837 жыл бұрын
LOL Darko comes in for 1 play and does this @11:09 What a Bum
@MrEOM41 Жыл бұрын
😬 LA was held to 68 points Piston D was crazyyy
@jaybrick89737 жыл бұрын
pistons all day I don't think ppl really know how good that team really was and could have been if we didn't draft Darko and got wade or something
@MrC77
6 жыл бұрын
They could have been a dynasty.
@jarius9229
5 жыл бұрын
Carmelo would be a 5x champ or more. He will be a starting SF of pistons and their source of offense.
@SL-pg4dh
4 жыл бұрын
Wade would fit in, melo would have fucked up their chemistry.
@tjswanson1713
4 жыл бұрын
Melo wouldnt have fit he needs the ball this team is defense. We take wade and take rip out? The smartest move was trade the pick
@ericklee9746
Жыл бұрын
If Malone stayed healthy Lakers are the Champs point blank period no need for no other opinions 🥺
@kanikypaul12608 жыл бұрын
10:53 that should've been Carmelo coming into the game
@sageantone7291
4 жыл бұрын
carmelo would have been starting instead of prince and it would have thrown the chemistry off. they don't win the ring if they draft melo.
@dougfresh4454
4 жыл бұрын
Kaniky Paul ah darko killed it lol
@astroanthropoid99943 ай бұрын
I love defensive basketball! Every trip down court is important.
@frederickallen45677 жыл бұрын
I watch this game the whole series love it they play great the Detroit did
@xXEliminatorXx994 жыл бұрын
This Pistons team is my favourite team of all time. The discipline on the defensive end was insane. The Lakers needed 5 1/2 minutes to score their first points. They had a fucking three peat.
@tnaimpact6 жыл бұрын
2004 Pistons was the best team when they won championship against Lakers! They had great players during that time but sucks they didn’t repeat & 2005 was their last NBA Finals appearance
@Kickingit06 Жыл бұрын
Pistons won despite not even utilizing an all star talent like Mehemet Okur all season and playoffs.
@osazuwaogbeide1540 Жыл бұрын
back when nba tv used to show the finals games as well
@duffman1876 Жыл бұрын
2023...and I honestly never knew The Lakers were held to 68 points..wow😳🍻🍺
@Positive_energy4u5 жыл бұрын
funny how Kobe fans don't bring this series up
@Only2GendersCommonSense
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they have selective memory. Also the 2000 finals where Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 36% (including an 8 point game on 4 for 20 shooting).
@samrodriguez9371
5 жыл бұрын
@@Only2GendersCommonSense Kobe had gotten his ankle messed up this game and barely played 9 minutes in game 2. Throw out that game and his average goes to 19 PPG. And I will admit he shot pretty bad in that series but he also secured them the win in Indiana when Shaq fouled out. Although I am Kobe's biggest fan, this year it was still clear that Shaq was the best player on the team. And with the Pistons-Lakers series there was so much crap going on off the court but I give the Pistons a ton of credit. They were arguably the greatest defensive team of all time and were supremely hungry for a championship which is no coincidence that they made that consecutive run of so many Eastern Conference Series.
@ericheart1198
4 жыл бұрын
@@Only2GendersCommonSense you must have selective memory too...
@TheSands83
4 жыл бұрын
Sam Rodriguez dude u can’t disregard a game n then do the stats n it wasn’t that anyway...he made terrible decisions vs Detroit the entire series n they were good but u have to play better vs teams like Detroit not like shit like Kobe played.. he’s just not jordan
@castlewoods4753
2 жыл бұрын
Funny how you don’t mention that Kobe is the reason why lakers even won that’s funny
@23mgab8 жыл бұрын
Great stuff, best quality I can find on those games. Do you have the game 2 and others ?
@balconi899 жыл бұрын
Payton was terrible in the triangle offense. He looked awful in the series. As a matter of fact he got torched by Sam Cassell in the previous series. I tell my friends all the time if Cassell hadn't got hurt, it would have been a Pistons-Timberwolves finals.
@Jimmy_Hopkins15
9 жыл бұрын
If the Wolves had made they would of gotten crushed by this pistin squad.
@yeezusdropout
7 жыл бұрын
DTB1997 which explains why he averaged 15-5-5 this series lmao. Kobe is the one who shot 36%
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
Payton got his ring in Miami...
@Airdeemoney
5 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised they even got through San Antonio. @DTB1997
@1TotalJabroni
5 жыл бұрын
The T-Wolves still missed out on Steph Curry. I know it's totally unrelated and happened 5 years later, but just wanted to remind you.
@docdee7702 жыл бұрын
The big mistake Joe Dumars and Pistons management made in 2005 was that they minimized their bench. In 2004, thay had one of the deepest benches in the NBA, and come 2005, they had one of the weakest benches in the NBA. Because of this, the starting five were played the stew out of. The fact that they managed to go seven games with the Spurs, and could have beaten them, with practically five players, proved how formidable the Pistons were during this time. This Pistons crew will always be my favorite 🏀
@DSrDavis-tq9qp
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right plus beef was brewing with Larry Brown and the front office all season long.
@Loganbub
Жыл бұрын
Yup, Dumars built a title team with no stars but also ruined them by never getting them help outside of Mcdyess
@j03franks
Жыл бұрын
I think it was cap casualties that was the reason for that. Corliss mehmet okur mike james all got paid big money for bigger roles. Joe d actually did a good job getting mcdyess.
@osazuwaogbeide1540
21 күн бұрын
carmelo was missing piece if it wasnt for fisher liucky .04 shot i think spurs win 2004 and 2005
@devinstigger96028 жыл бұрын
2004 Pistons vs 2008 Celtics in a ecf show down who would win?
@ramonmaldonado73
8 жыл бұрын
hardest question ever...
@devinstigger9602
8 жыл бұрын
+Ramon Maldonado Yeah I don't know either
@ramonmaldonado73
8 жыл бұрын
+Devin Stigger i think ill put my money on pistons
@kanikypaul1260
8 жыл бұрын
It's tough both teams had that lunch pale hard hat mentality I would've said Detroit in a no brainier if they would've took a chance on Carmelo
@naothi
7 жыл бұрын
mtrujillo1973 But Pistons had Big Ben. But that would be a fantastic 7 game series though. Wooo
@RJBC51998 жыл бұрын
Every screen they gave billups the defense would always go under.. They just didnt learn..
@kurodamon60175 жыл бұрын
One of the best nba finals !!!👍👍👍
@wgsuperstar77304 жыл бұрын
2019 NBA, this video is called defense
@amarikanc5560
3 жыл бұрын
2020 nba, this video is called defense
@shermanngjazz
2 жыл бұрын
2021 NBA, this video is called defense
@tahquameken4 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone just tuning in at the end to see that the Lakers won. Then turning the television off and celebrating all night thinking that the Lakers were going to easily win it all.
@raulruiz87057 жыл бұрын
Hahaha kobe first 2 points in the 3rd quarter. he owes everything to shaq!!!
@bossrain37654 жыл бұрын
So Darco is the first one to win a championship from the 2003 draft class
@st4r444
4 жыл бұрын
His airball lol after the ovation
@veerchasm14 жыл бұрын
This was the greatest comeuppance in NBA history, made me a Pistons fan for 1 season
@Ldale119 жыл бұрын
Damn I loved this finals! No, it wasn't a great series as far as the teams being more even in talent, athleticism, or determination, but it was the flakers getting CRUSHED by the HUGE underdog Pistons. DEEEEtrooiit Baasketbaaaaaaall!!!
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
In 89 and 04 pistons crushed la 8-1 and the only loss game in ot in la after a lucky 6 point swing late on a bs call...otherwise pistons have actually owned la 11-5 in finals games....they got robbed in 88 in game 7...
@Yasin_C4 ай бұрын
Holding Lakers at 68 pts is insane
@runjiechai94856 жыл бұрын
great game
@lotabigs4458 Жыл бұрын
Wow Elden Campbell jammed on his former team.
@markitogolez09233 жыл бұрын
"We're not going back to L.A., let's finish this series at home in 5"----Billups to Hamilton
@Bountyville4248 жыл бұрын
Pistons were the favorite too win this series in Vegas believe it or not
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
Lakers had injuries to fox and Malone and Payton was trash and Kobe was meh...and Shaq wasn't as dominant...makes sense...rasheed made Detroit way better...although west teams are always favored vs the east pre 2011 LeBron miami days...post mj era ..from 1998-2010 the west always had home court except for 2008. ...since 2011 LeBron only had it 2 times so the east has only had home court 3 times since 97...even in mjs last season with bulls he didn't have home court in the finals vs Utah..that's 10 times in a row from 1998-2007 lol..and in the 10 years aince only 3 times...3 in 20 years lol...
@fabolousninenine30
6 жыл бұрын
Hussein Rizk This is ridicolous. Nobody gave them more than one game lmao.
@Kravis63
6 жыл бұрын
lol no they were not!
@AdanBean
6 жыл бұрын
Lol...I’m gonna go with ‘not’
@oldirtydasher4 жыл бұрын
Corona virus made me come here because I love basketball
@velitahmaz9647 Жыл бұрын
Best defensive team ever in modern era
@tol551610 жыл бұрын
do you have the other games?
@retrorampage90154 жыл бұрын
In 4 years this will be 20 years old. Time is flying by.
@g-dub52724 жыл бұрын
Back then I thought it was a foregone conclusion the Lakers was gonna win. Little did I know how stout that Pistons team was and the Lakers wasn’t a team. Plus Shaq and Kobe was going through drama
@egyptianpiffin Жыл бұрын
That pistons zone is one of the greatest of the modern era of ball. Insane.
@davidschmidt227
7 ай бұрын
Zone? Quite the contrary. Larry Brown hated zones and they were rarely used in those 2003/2005 Pistons. They were mostly about straight up,physical man-to-man defense, not to mention their help defense,switches and effective doubles were insane. When Pistons started to run zones often, with Flip Saunders as the coach, things went downhill for them. The 2 best defensive teams of the decade(Spurs and Pistons) rarely used any zones. Interestingly enough, Poppovich was a Larry Brown assistant, which may explain why they had similar defensive styles.
@egyptianpiffin
7 ай бұрын
Yeah you’re absolutely right that’s my bad
@egyptianpiffin
7 ай бұрын
I knew they played man but for some reason I thought they were known for zone
@davidschmidt227
7 ай бұрын
@@egyptianpiffin No worries. They did become known for zone later on, when Flip Saunders was the coach, but their reign was over, never got to the finals again
@im_jedster6 жыл бұрын
When the Pistons were relevant here in my home state Michigan
@muchlovegambine9494 жыл бұрын
Reliving this because of corona
@egyptianpiffin Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of rip Hamilton game in steph curry. Off the ball movement crazy
@YungJack91310 жыл бұрын
This lakers team was so dysfunctional they had problems all that season...Shaq was over weight...Kobe was Kobe an Karl Malone was injured
@MarlonT
9 жыл бұрын
have you read Phil Jackson's book about that season? amazing read, he talks about all of that in it, they were a mess
@YungJack913
9 жыл бұрын
I didn't get a chance to read the book but I remember watching their games an all that... but this finals loss hurt but I could tell something wasn't right with all the problems they had during the season with kobe an Karl then shaq an kobe
@smokinnplatez1426
9 жыл бұрын
boo hoo how about the pistons just being monster at the defensive end . professional athletes are competitors deep down . so save your excuses
@trialmop
9 жыл бұрын
AyoJack 24 Only Jesus could save them from the pistons in 04
@pacmanofftop8030
9 жыл бұрын
ensayofr Shaq was not to overweight to take his talents to south beach. He quit on this team. If he isn't posting up, he's not doing anything. Shaq got so many lane violations in his career, because stays by the basket. And that my friend, is why he shoots higher percentage. Ben Wallace shut him down
@Pimpinpark7777 жыл бұрын
Anyone realize the final score on ABC was flipped?
@ricardolozano6265
6 жыл бұрын
Makaveli ABC sucks
@st4r444
4 жыл бұрын
David stern refuses to acknowledge Lakers loss
@ryanorr346 Жыл бұрын
End of some of the best nba eras when defense n contact was still allowed, n half court shots werent considered good plays
@franko88588 жыл бұрын
That Pistons team was such a great defense.
@jmd111852 жыл бұрын
I miss this lighting.
@gt500Ebsam8 жыл бұрын
kareem rush was such a shooter miss him
@jordanjordan5630
8 жыл бұрын
+Sam S You mean that Kareem would have a better career if he played for another team where he could get more time, trust and throws?
@BohbSmile
8 жыл бұрын
+Sam S But you can still watch his brother Brandon's GSW game XI
@HansLotapАй бұрын
This lakers was fully stacked.
@ilancastro92376 жыл бұрын
Damn these are some bad boys
@JQUE944 жыл бұрын
That Black Eyed Peas promo brings back memories lol generally bad since im a Laker Fan
@alexcarranza8572 Жыл бұрын
I LIKE THE ALGORITHYM SEQUENCE. NICE NUMBERS.
@jimbojoe73625 ай бұрын
😢 miss the old times when PF and centers can shoot jumpers or banks in the ball .
@DJ-iv2xo6 жыл бұрын
11:48 ABC has the score backwards with Lakers 88 and Pistons 68 !
@TokyoFreeze
5 жыл бұрын
and he even says, 88-68, Lakers win it. lol!
@jalenbirch38208 жыл бұрын
A true TEAM
@natenatehoney23144 жыл бұрын
Damn. 59 pts. With 7:00 left to play?🤭
@BennLin4 жыл бұрын
other 29 teams would've be so dead if the Pistons play that D in this era.
@jkl16727 жыл бұрын
Detroit Basketball
@analynbuslay80374 жыл бұрын
Wow i love pistons ❤
@ayushrathore91905 жыл бұрын
@11:47 commentator said lakers win it?? 🤔
@hnxandar15075 жыл бұрын
What happened to the floor cam
@cameronbrinkdawg500010 жыл бұрын
Hi can you give me a link or upload a video of 2007 Spurs/Phoenix western conference finals Game 6. I kind of need it for an article I'm writing for a website. sorry I sound like I'm nagging you by writing it multiple times. I really do appreciate these videos you upload very frequently. Thanks.
@cameronbrinkdawg5000
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Humtuer2
9 жыл бұрын
The western conference finals in 2007 was the jazz & spurs.
@GlobalWarmingSkeptic5 жыл бұрын
No names who won just by out hustling the opponent. Amazing stuff.
@davidcambra6 жыл бұрын
Glad they got rid of that floor cam. Super weird angle
@FunkNatives8 жыл бұрын
If lakers went with a younger pf instead of Malone and had Malone come off the bench, I think lakers could've kept up, the Pistons were young and hungry...maybe even start fisher cause he was pretty young too
@bigbrogiant46 жыл бұрын
11:09 That shot by Darko...😳👎🏻 wolf. Still can’t believe the Pistons drafted him over Melo, Wade or Bosh.
@Wheelio
5 жыл бұрын
It was obviously a bad pick, but you can't blame them either. Their biggest need was CENTER... Ben Wallace at that time was playing PF, and they didn't have Rasheed Wallace until later during the year. Not to mention those guys would have struggled to get playing time knowing how Larry Brown handles rookies.The fact that Pistons even had the #2 pick was just bizarre considering that they had went to the ECF the year before. They didn't really NEED to draft another ball-dominant scorer like Wade or Melo.
@obilinx1620
4 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelio Bosh could be essential
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
4 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelio Here's how I could have figured this out. You could draft Chris Bosh to fill a need at power forward, then you didn't need to trade for Rasheed Wallace. Or you trade the pick and get a valuable backup center.
@AfroCentauri11 ай бұрын
One of many games that separates Jordan from Kobe. Jordan is not scoring 11 points in an NBA Finals game.
@i-work-at-enron Жыл бұрын
It feels like LA didn't have a single lead this series outside of the game they won
@JerinP Жыл бұрын
Former Laker Elden Campbell's pinch hitting defense on Shaq in the 2nd half helped put this game away. Big Elden wouldn't even let Shaq catch entry passes.
Пікірлер: 594
Defense, fast breaks, ball movement, no forced or low percentage shots... this is real basketball.
@lurking0death
Ай бұрын
At the end of this series the "experts" were still trying to figure it out. It was superb hustling hard-nosed defence along with disciplined well executed offense. The Lakers got out-worked and out-played by a bunch of young gritty Pistons. Great upset!
Die hard laker fan here but this pistons team is a very underrated championship team. They had a sharp shooting clutch play making PG. a scoring SG. an elite defending SF. A stretch 4 and an enforcer in the paint. Just a really really complete team
@pgai824
11 ай бұрын
I like the Lakers a lot, but I'm a Pistons fan and remember watching this series as a kid. Rip Hamilton was a monster and our D was tough!
@optimusprimeshead5369
8 ай бұрын
Which is hilarious considering they won all of 1 title together
@shwickid222
7 ай бұрын
@@optimusprimeshead5369 hey we almost went back to back. our record was even better in 05 that year.
@Theterminato2013
7 ай бұрын
@@shwickid222How tho?! The Pistons finished with the same exact W/L RS record 54-28 in both 2004 & 2005.
I miss this DEFENSE..! This is real basketball.
@berkeleydojah
9 жыл бұрын
Deniz Atay if you pass gas these days its a technical...
@zeddthegreat3984
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah True 2000's Basketball is the best
@pp3k3jamail
6 жыл бұрын
Zedd Rosenberg not really it was way to Manny low scoring games in the 2000s. 90s basketball was the best.
@pp3k3jamail
6 жыл бұрын
Michael Peter dude shut up
@ljpalorcruz1147
5 жыл бұрын
Truly is. This was when any team barely reaches 100 in a finals game even in a blowout like this Game 3. just WOW!
Am i the only one who think the 2004 finals was so smooth and classic to watch
@zeddthegreat3984
6 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Loganbub
6 жыл бұрын
Jordan Downs yes. Very few finals now a days feels like this anymore, it all feels cheap and fabricated now a days. In part due to the high octane social media age with athletes, super teams, but also due to the vastly different playing style now a days which (as incredible as it is at times) has made real tough, gritty, every possession is critical basketball (the very best kind) extinct.
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
la as a team had 49 points with prime shaq and prime kobe and gary payton karl malone fisher george walton rush slava with 4 seconds to go in the 3rd lol ....like what?...that dont make no sense...LeBron today alone scored 46 points 12 rebounds and 5 assists
@Kennyisdarkvanilla
5 жыл бұрын
I feel the reason why is cuz most NBA Finals are predictable. Usually we already know how the series is gonna go. 2004 and 2011 were the only upsets that no one expected and that’s why everyone loves them. They didn’t feel scripted.
@asmrvish8871
5 жыл бұрын
KennyD and now2019 finals lolol
Imagine scoring 68 points in a Finals game.
@shermanngjazz
4 жыл бұрын
Try 67 for the Celtics in game 6 in the 2010 finals
@alexajlouni5351
4 жыл бұрын
and shaq and kobe believe their team can beat 15-16 warriors haahah
@mohammedbabaki1534
4 жыл бұрын
And there’s all these idiot laker fans out there that think shaq could have averaged 50 a game for the series 🤣
@neilferrer8836
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexajlouni5351 lol lakers 2000-2002 can beat any warriors team. Can't even three peat for fucksake haha.
@chongdai4040
4 жыл бұрын
@@alexajlouni5351 sorry, can't imagine how 15-16 warriors can score more than 68 against 2004 pistons
Kobe Bryant’s worst playoff game. 11 points on 30% with 4 TOV’s. That Pistons defense was incredible, and the home crowd brought the energy.
A kobe and shaq team held under 70pts...
@livingdream2284
Жыл бұрын
With Karl Malone
@HansLotap
Ай бұрын
With gary payton and derek fisher.
The Pistons were the better team because of team defense and stifling pressure. They shut down the Lakers.
Detroit played 90's style ball this series
@sageantone7291
4 жыл бұрын
no. '80s.
@TheSands83
4 жыл бұрын
Sage Antone 80s wasn’t a lot of defense being played.. it’s 90s
@viciousny5958
3 жыл бұрын
No, 04 Pistons played better defense than any team from 90's. Only 93 Knicks comes close. Check the numbers
It's hilarious still seeing laker fans crying about this lol. The Pistons were a vastly superior team, deal with it.
@michaelcabrera3942
8 жыл бұрын
+arman1261 what's funny is darko has a ring and melo still dont lol what couldve been
@hiphoprbloverjon9180
8 жыл бұрын
I'm not crying.
@lakers1436
8 жыл бұрын
Not really. I'm surprised they even got through San Antonio. I do think if lakers were at full strength they would've given the pistons a hard fought series
@infinitygauntlet101
7 жыл бұрын
They have Gary Payton and Karl Malone .. what do you mean by full strength ?
@lakers1436
7 жыл бұрын
Ric Daniel Full credit to Pistons. They had everything going for them at the right time.
Larry Brown was a real thorn in the Lakers side.I love it.
if the Pistons would have drafted Wade or melo, they could have been a Dynasty
@1TotalJabroni
5 жыл бұрын
They don't trade for Sheed if they draft Melo or Wade. While I agree they definitely should have gotten one of them, without Sheed who knows if the Pistons even win one? Maybe they win 4, maybe they win 0. Without Sheed it's tough to know, his defensive versatility was special. In the end, it's safe to say this team should have been a dynasty regardless. Getting rid of Larry Brown was arguably an equally big mistake.
@CoreyT127
5 жыл бұрын
Melo would've crippled that team with his live and let live defense!
@SL-pg4dh
4 жыл бұрын
Wade yes, melo would have thrown their chemistry off.
@markitogolez0923
3 жыл бұрын
They dont need melo or wade to be a dynasty....all they need is to put Defense on....they should have won back to back if it wasnt for Horry's 3 in '05 finals....
@kevinconroy6606
3 жыл бұрын
@@SL-pg4dh everybody who says Melo would throw chemistry off is smoking crack. He was a 19 year old kid, would’ve been coming to a team full of strong personalities, with an already established culture. He absolutely would’ve fit in. He got along fine with Chauncey years later? I mean, Darko was lazy, entitled and (he even admitted himself years later) and alcoholic. Did he mess up the chemistry? No, he just got his ass benched. Corliss Williamson was never a good defender, I watching his whole career with the Kings. He was undersized vs big forwards and slow footed vs wing players. Memhmet Okur was a softie on the defensive end but he had a role and just had to play adequate D.... but as a role player they fit in FINE. Melo was absolutely a better athlete than Corliss/Memo, playing in a culture of effort, work and accountability he absolutely would’ve learned better man to man defense. You guys forget he was in a zone w/Cuse, who traditionally doesn’t produce good defenders at the pro level. BUT Melo was still a teen with plenty of potential to learn and develop.
The Pistons were the ones to realize that the key was never stopping Shaq, it was stopping Kobe, and then stopping Kobe. Man I miss this era of Deee-troit Baaa-sketball
thanks for the video. to all youngsters out there enjoy, you will never see a true all around TEAM like that again.
You will never see basketball like this again. I loved this series so much because it made the media look stupid.
David Stern was rolling over in his grave during the Pistons defensive style run over those years.
@robgbaby
4 жыл бұрын
And Spurs
@wilshirewilshire2303
4 жыл бұрын
Stern was alive when that was going on.
@SL-pg4dh
4 жыл бұрын
Pistons and the spurs had the league on locked down
@wilshirewilshire2303
4 жыл бұрын
@@SL-pg4dh Typically I hate defensive teams but their finals was very entertaining, way better than Lakers/76ers, Lakers/Nets.
@nddavi58
4 жыл бұрын
but stern died this year?
Best defensive team in nba history '04 pistons ??
@nabeelzazaiantv4860
7 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt.
@claytonstluka4933
7 жыл бұрын
Hunter Terry they weren't even the best defensive team that season
@vincentsitto5252
7 жыл бұрын
Clayton Stluka please enlighten me on who your dumbass thinks was a better defense than the pistons? Twolves? Spurs? No
@vincentsitto5252
7 жыл бұрын
You mad Bro!? I'll give u that it's debatable
@andreialexandruparfeni7129
6 жыл бұрын
Hunter Terry 64 Celtics.
15 years ago still hurts to me, but 2005 nba finals its hurts also.............. i miss you kobe bryant!
Malone never got a ring because of Pistons and Jordan
@Doatello1991
5 жыл бұрын
truthseeker89 for life And Scottie Pippen. (“Mail doesn’t get delivered on Sunday”)
@dalmarjackson9363
5 жыл бұрын
Mostly because of Karl Malone
No Lakers outside of Kobe or Shaq scored in double figures until Game 5 let that sink in for a second... They had no chance!
These Pistons were so brave, the perfect antidote to artificially-made Lakers - Malone, Payton.
@denzelcox
Жыл бұрын
Haha artificially made 😂 that team looked so generic.. almost like a 2K setup.. it actually made them look silly I could only imagine what all of those HOF’s were thinking 💭 after they were swept like that 🧹 it goes to prove you can place as many elite players together as you want but if the chemistry isn’t there you have nothing.. Malone definitely did not belong on the Lakers nor did Byron Russel.. they thought him and Malone could add to Kobe & ShaQ & it was gonna be a walk in the park.
I can't believe they put the score backwards and he even said it
@antonioguglielmetti2661
4 жыл бұрын
Ikr 😂
@KaneRobot
3 жыл бұрын
He wanted the Lakers doing so bad. This commentary was pathetic the entire series. Dude was majorly butthurt that the Shaq/Kobe run was getting dismantled before his eyes.
The entry pass by Okur at 2:39... a beautiful, lost art in today's NBA.
11:46 I wondered if someone turned on their TV at that moment and thought that the Lakers won 😂
Kobe Bryant Completely shot the Lakers out of this series
@1TotalJabroni
5 жыл бұрын
The best defensive team in NBA history is the only thing that lost the Lakers this series. This Pistons team held 6 straight NBA teams to under 70 total points during the regular season. This '04 team was just special, a team I'd put up against ANY of the all-time teams simply because of that defense.
@ericheart1198
4 жыл бұрын
It was more than that. Shaq defense was horrible this series. Payton and Malone were completely non factors.
@mattlai443
4 жыл бұрын
@@ericheart1198 shaq didnt even try to jump at all
@TheSands83
4 жыл бұрын
He was awful in the finals for sure vs pistons
@chitoim2332
4 жыл бұрын
U just a kobe hater
omg that look like the old school piston
@bertlovemorleo1096
8 жыл бұрын
Kobe rules
@bertlovemorleo1096
7 жыл бұрын
You mad Bro!? this is last year post ok, I'm not worrying about that now, its done bro Lol
@bertlovemorleo1096
7 жыл бұрын
Besides Kobe didn't take that game seriously
@klarosa
4 жыл бұрын
@You mad Bro!? I think he referring to similarity to jordan rule defense
This never gets old
Man I loved that Detroit squad.. 😍
That 2-3-2 was a killer if you lost a home game as the higher seed
@fernandoandrade4755
7 жыл бұрын
Thats why they changed it, to extend series to more games
@jameglittlejohn8585
6 жыл бұрын
Well don't lose at home then 😂
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
Thats why in 29 seasons only 3 teams won all 3 home games in a row in the finals...pistons in 04..and miami did it twice...2006 2012...but okay..
@greyjedilovetheh8622
6 жыл бұрын
Asmosis Jones u don't have to win all 3 games to feel the effect.
@charliedontsurf9155
6 жыл бұрын
The Pistons had no problem winning their games at home !
Rip was in unbelievable shape he never stopped running Kobe was so frustrated
Kobe 4 of 13, 0 of 4 from 3, 5 turnovers. Shaq went 7 of 14. Should've gotten 2x as many shots. This was the game that let me know the Lakers were in deep shit.
@st4r444
11 ай бұрын
Lakers have always been vulnerable. Shaq would never come out to perimeter to defend during a screen. Most teams in 00s didn't shoot good from range. It was mostly iso. The pistons abused the lakers with alot of switching and giving up good shot for a better shot. Basically all 4 guys on Detroit can shoot and stretch the floor. None of them had ego
@Theterminato2013
7 ай бұрын
@@st4r444Not that many Big men defended the Perimeter and were mostly known as Rim Protectors. Only few had a rarity to be able to switch to guards like KG, Russell, Hakeem, Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman.
this was one of the best championship games ever. The Pistons had five good players who with great teamwork beat the most starstudded teams of all time; the Lakers with Malone and Peyton added for overkill but the meat and potatoes team had beat them. Timeless
@TaybeenTrill248
Жыл бұрын
Fluke ass championship
@baseballsoffury642
Жыл бұрын
@@TaybeenTrill248 How about no
@Simon_and_Lami
Жыл бұрын
I think 2017-2019 warriors are even star studded than this lakers team. My opinion 😊
@pragadeeshkannan4938
Жыл бұрын
@@Simon_and_Lami Did they have 4 all-time greats?
@Simon_and_Lami
Жыл бұрын
@@pragadeeshkannan4938 yup they are not yet retired that's why may not say so yet. KD, Curry, Klay and Dray are actually all time greats. Why? I believe at the level of Gary payton is Dray at least if not more. Malone has a strong argument over Klay but Klay has more rings and was vital for those rings. But on star power I can out Malone over Klay. As for KD and curry we may not be able to put Kd with Shaq or Kobe in terms of All time. But we know Curry and KD are definitely all time greats. Don't forget the warriors had Buggie Cousins and great bench.
Watching this finals never gets old.
LOL Darko comes in for 1 play and does this @11:09 What a Bum
😬 LA was held to 68 points Piston D was crazyyy
pistons all day I don't think ppl really know how good that team really was and could have been if we didn't draft Darko and got wade or something
@MrC77
6 жыл бұрын
They could have been a dynasty.
@jarius9229
5 жыл бұрын
Carmelo would be a 5x champ or more. He will be a starting SF of pistons and their source of offense.
@SL-pg4dh
4 жыл бұрын
Wade would fit in, melo would have fucked up their chemistry.
@tjswanson1713
4 жыл бұрын
Melo wouldnt have fit he needs the ball this team is defense. We take wade and take rip out? The smartest move was trade the pick
@ericklee9746
Жыл бұрын
If Malone stayed healthy Lakers are the Champs point blank period no need for no other opinions 🥺
10:53 that should've been Carmelo coming into the game
@sageantone7291
4 жыл бұрын
carmelo would have been starting instead of prince and it would have thrown the chemistry off. they don't win the ring if they draft melo.
@dougfresh4454
4 жыл бұрын
Kaniky Paul ah darko killed it lol
I love defensive basketball! Every trip down court is important.
I watch this game the whole series love it they play great the Detroit did
This Pistons team is my favourite team of all time. The discipline on the defensive end was insane. The Lakers needed 5 1/2 minutes to score their first points. They had a fucking three peat.
2004 Pistons was the best team when they won championship against Lakers! They had great players during that time but sucks they didn’t repeat & 2005 was their last NBA Finals appearance
Pistons won despite not even utilizing an all star talent like Mehemet Okur all season and playoffs.
back when nba tv used to show the finals games as well
2023...and I honestly never knew The Lakers were held to 68 points..wow😳🍻🍺
funny how Kobe fans don't bring this series up
@Only2GendersCommonSense
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they have selective memory. Also the 2000 finals where Kobe averaged 15 ppg on 36% (including an 8 point game on 4 for 20 shooting).
@samrodriguez9371
5 жыл бұрын
@@Only2GendersCommonSense Kobe had gotten his ankle messed up this game and barely played 9 minutes in game 2. Throw out that game and his average goes to 19 PPG. And I will admit he shot pretty bad in that series but he also secured them the win in Indiana when Shaq fouled out. Although I am Kobe's biggest fan, this year it was still clear that Shaq was the best player on the team. And with the Pistons-Lakers series there was so much crap going on off the court but I give the Pistons a ton of credit. They were arguably the greatest defensive team of all time and were supremely hungry for a championship which is no coincidence that they made that consecutive run of so many Eastern Conference Series.
@ericheart1198
4 жыл бұрын
@@Only2GendersCommonSense you must have selective memory too...
@TheSands83
4 жыл бұрын
Sam Rodriguez dude u can’t disregard a game n then do the stats n it wasn’t that anyway...he made terrible decisions vs Detroit the entire series n they were good but u have to play better vs teams like Detroit not like shit like Kobe played.. he’s just not jordan
@castlewoods4753
2 жыл бұрын
Funny how you don’t mention that Kobe is the reason why lakers even won that’s funny
Great stuff, best quality I can find on those games. Do you have the game 2 and others ?
Payton was terrible in the triangle offense. He looked awful in the series. As a matter of fact he got torched by Sam Cassell in the previous series. I tell my friends all the time if Cassell hadn't got hurt, it would have been a Pistons-Timberwolves finals.
@Jimmy_Hopkins15
9 жыл бұрын
If the Wolves had made they would of gotten crushed by this pistin squad.
@yeezusdropout
7 жыл бұрын
DTB1997 which explains why he averaged 15-5-5 this series lmao. Kobe is the one who shot 36%
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
Payton got his ring in Miami...
@Airdeemoney
5 жыл бұрын
i'm surprised they even got through San Antonio. @DTB1997
@1TotalJabroni
5 жыл бұрын
The T-Wolves still missed out on Steph Curry. I know it's totally unrelated and happened 5 years later, but just wanted to remind you.
The big mistake Joe Dumars and Pistons management made in 2005 was that they minimized their bench. In 2004, thay had one of the deepest benches in the NBA, and come 2005, they had one of the weakest benches in the NBA. Because of this, the starting five were played the stew out of. The fact that they managed to go seven games with the Spurs, and could have beaten them, with practically five players, proved how formidable the Pistons were during this time. This Pistons crew will always be my favorite 🏀
@DSrDavis-tq9qp
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely right plus beef was brewing with Larry Brown and the front office all season long.
@Loganbub
Жыл бұрын
Yup, Dumars built a title team with no stars but also ruined them by never getting them help outside of Mcdyess
@j03franks
Жыл бұрын
I think it was cap casualties that was the reason for that. Corliss mehmet okur mike james all got paid big money for bigger roles. Joe d actually did a good job getting mcdyess.
@osazuwaogbeide1540
21 күн бұрын
carmelo was missing piece if it wasnt for fisher liucky .04 shot i think spurs win 2004 and 2005
2004 Pistons vs 2008 Celtics in a ecf show down who would win?
@ramonmaldonado73
8 жыл бұрын
hardest question ever...
@devinstigger9602
8 жыл бұрын
+Ramon Maldonado Yeah I don't know either
@ramonmaldonado73
8 жыл бұрын
+Devin Stigger i think ill put my money on pistons
@kanikypaul1260
8 жыл бұрын
It's tough both teams had that lunch pale hard hat mentality I would've said Detroit in a no brainier if they would've took a chance on Carmelo
@naothi
7 жыл бұрын
mtrujillo1973 But Pistons had Big Ben. But that would be a fantastic 7 game series though. Wooo
Every screen they gave billups the defense would always go under.. They just didnt learn..
One of the best nba finals !!!👍👍👍
2019 NBA, this video is called defense
@amarikanc5560
3 жыл бұрын
2020 nba, this video is called defense
@shermanngjazz
2 жыл бұрын
2021 NBA, this video is called defense
Imagine someone just tuning in at the end to see that the Lakers won. Then turning the television off and celebrating all night thinking that the Lakers were going to easily win it all.
Hahaha kobe first 2 points in the 3rd quarter. he owes everything to shaq!!!
So Darco is the first one to win a championship from the 2003 draft class
@st4r444
4 жыл бұрын
His airball lol after the ovation
This was the greatest comeuppance in NBA history, made me a Pistons fan for 1 season
Damn I loved this finals! No, it wasn't a great series as far as the teams being more even in talent, athleticism, or determination, but it was the flakers getting CRUSHED by the HUGE underdog Pistons. DEEEEtrooiit Baasketbaaaaaaall!!!
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
In 89 and 04 pistons crushed la 8-1 and the only loss game in ot in la after a lucky 6 point swing late on a bs call...otherwise pistons have actually owned la 11-5 in finals games....they got robbed in 88 in game 7...
Holding Lakers at 68 pts is insane
great game
Wow Elden Campbell jammed on his former team.
"We're not going back to L.A., let's finish this series at home in 5"----Billups to Hamilton
Pistons were the favorite too win this series in Vegas believe it or not
@razkable
6 жыл бұрын
Lakers had injuries to fox and Malone and Payton was trash and Kobe was meh...and Shaq wasn't as dominant...makes sense...rasheed made Detroit way better...although west teams are always favored vs the east pre 2011 LeBron miami days...post mj era ..from 1998-2010 the west always had home court except for 2008. ...since 2011 LeBron only had it 2 times so the east has only had home court 3 times since 97...even in mjs last season with bulls he didn't have home court in the finals vs Utah..that's 10 times in a row from 1998-2007 lol..and in the 10 years aince only 3 times...3 in 20 years lol...
@fabolousninenine30
6 жыл бұрын
Hussein Rizk This is ridicolous. Nobody gave them more than one game lmao.
@Kravis63
6 жыл бұрын
lol no they were not!
@AdanBean
6 жыл бұрын
Lol...I’m gonna go with ‘not’
Corona virus made me come here because I love basketball
Best defensive team ever in modern era
do you have the other games?
In 4 years this will be 20 years old. Time is flying by.
Back then I thought it was a foregone conclusion the Lakers was gonna win. Little did I know how stout that Pistons team was and the Lakers wasn’t a team. Plus Shaq and Kobe was going through drama
That pistons zone is one of the greatest of the modern era of ball. Insane.
@davidschmidt227
7 ай бұрын
Zone? Quite the contrary. Larry Brown hated zones and they were rarely used in those 2003/2005 Pistons. They were mostly about straight up,physical man-to-man defense, not to mention their help defense,switches and effective doubles were insane. When Pistons started to run zones often, with Flip Saunders as the coach, things went downhill for them. The 2 best defensive teams of the decade(Spurs and Pistons) rarely used any zones. Interestingly enough, Poppovich was a Larry Brown assistant, which may explain why they had similar defensive styles.
@egyptianpiffin
7 ай бұрын
Yeah you’re absolutely right that’s my bad
@egyptianpiffin
7 ай бұрын
I knew they played man but for some reason I thought they were known for zone
@davidschmidt227
7 ай бұрын
@@egyptianpiffin No worries. They did become known for zone later on, when Flip Saunders was the coach, but their reign was over, never got to the finals again
When the Pistons were relevant here in my home state Michigan
Reliving this because of corona
I see a lot of rip Hamilton game in steph curry. Off the ball movement crazy
This lakers team was so dysfunctional they had problems all that season...Shaq was over weight...Kobe was Kobe an Karl Malone was injured
@MarlonT
9 жыл бұрын
have you read Phil Jackson's book about that season? amazing read, he talks about all of that in it, they were a mess
@YungJack913
9 жыл бұрын
I didn't get a chance to read the book but I remember watching their games an all that... but this finals loss hurt but I could tell something wasn't right with all the problems they had during the season with kobe an Karl then shaq an kobe
@smokinnplatez1426
9 жыл бұрын
boo hoo how about the pistons just being monster at the defensive end . professional athletes are competitors deep down . so save your excuses
@trialmop
9 жыл бұрын
AyoJack 24 Only Jesus could save them from the pistons in 04
@pacmanofftop8030
9 жыл бұрын
ensayofr Shaq was not to overweight to take his talents to south beach. He quit on this team. If he isn't posting up, he's not doing anything. Shaq got so many lane violations in his career, because stays by the basket. And that my friend, is why he shoots higher percentage. Ben Wallace shut him down
Anyone realize the final score on ABC was flipped?
@ricardolozano6265
6 жыл бұрын
Makaveli ABC sucks
@st4r444
4 жыл бұрын
David stern refuses to acknowledge Lakers loss
End of some of the best nba eras when defense n contact was still allowed, n half court shots werent considered good plays
That Pistons team was such a great defense.
I miss this lighting.
kareem rush was such a shooter miss him
@jordanjordan5630
8 жыл бұрын
+Sam S You mean that Kareem would have a better career if he played for another team where he could get more time, trust and throws?
@BohbSmile
8 жыл бұрын
+Sam S But you can still watch his brother Brandon's GSW game XI
This lakers was fully stacked.
Damn these are some bad boys
That Black Eyed Peas promo brings back memories lol generally bad since im a Laker Fan
I LIKE THE ALGORITHYM SEQUENCE. NICE NUMBERS.
😢 miss the old times when PF and centers can shoot jumpers or banks in the ball .
11:48 ABC has the score backwards with Lakers 88 and Pistons 68 !
@TokyoFreeze
5 жыл бұрын
and he even says, 88-68, Lakers win it. lol!
A true TEAM
Damn. 59 pts. With 7:00 left to play?🤭
other 29 teams would've be so dead if the Pistons play that D in this era.
Detroit Basketball
Wow i love pistons ❤
@11:47 commentator said lakers win it?? 🤔
What happened to the floor cam
Hi can you give me a link or upload a video of 2007 Spurs/Phoenix western conference finals Game 6. I kind of need it for an article I'm writing for a website. sorry I sound like I'm nagging you by writing it multiple times. I really do appreciate these videos you upload very frequently. Thanks.
@cameronbrinkdawg5000
10 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@Humtuer2
9 жыл бұрын
The western conference finals in 2007 was the jazz & spurs.
No names who won just by out hustling the opponent. Amazing stuff.
Glad they got rid of that floor cam. Super weird angle
If lakers went with a younger pf instead of Malone and had Malone come off the bench, I think lakers could've kept up, the Pistons were young and hungry...maybe even start fisher cause he was pretty young too
11:09 That shot by Darko...😳👎🏻 wolf. Still can’t believe the Pistons drafted him over Melo, Wade or Bosh.
@Wheelio
5 жыл бұрын
It was obviously a bad pick, but you can't blame them either. Their biggest need was CENTER... Ben Wallace at that time was playing PF, and they didn't have Rasheed Wallace until later during the year. Not to mention those guys would have struggled to get playing time knowing how Larry Brown handles rookies.The fact that Pistons even had the #2 pick was just bizarre considering that they had went to the ECF the year before. They didn't really NEED to draft another ball-dominant scorer like Wade or Melo.
@obilinx1620
4 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelio Bosh could be essential
@meharinationsportspodcast2582
4 жыл бұрын
@@Wheelio Here's how I could have figured this out. You could draft Chris Bosh to fill a need at power forward, then you didn't need to trade for Rasheed Wallace. Or you trade the pick and get a valuable backup center.
One of many games that separates Jordan from Kobe. Jordan is not scoring 11 points in an NBA Finals game.
It feels like LA didn't have a single lead this series outside of the game they won
Former Laker Elden Campbell's pinch hitting defense on Shaq in the 2nd half helped put this game away. Big Elden wouldn't even let Shaq catch entry passes.
Ben Wallace with open slamdunk! 💪💪🔥🔥
WHAT IS THE SONG name at 5:20