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@fredashay

3 жыл бұрын

What would HAL and GLaDOS talk to each other about?

@jonny-b4954

3 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, when is second book coming out? I still got to finish listening to first one. It's really good stuff.

@Indo-Fury6521

3 жыл бұрын

Can you do a video about the USS Argo from Godzilla King of the Monsters 2019

@christinabibeau4018

3 жыл бұрын

You should try the rz2 awing

@Earthmoonstars-el6rd

2 жыл бұрын

Thats great ,except they mist the time period for such a great ship to travel great distance. Maybe the late 30s into the 2040s may we see something fantastic like that.

I feel as if "2010: Year We Make Contact" was unfairly maligned as a sequel to 2001. Sure, it gets flak for not being in the style of Kubrick, but that was honestly a great decision. On its own it was a good space movie.

@BronzeAgeBryon

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I enjoy 2010 very much. Plus, I feel Kubrick's style is more geared towards stand alone films adding to most of their allure and mystery.

@hubriswonk

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! It stood alone yet coupled very well with 2001. It was a great influence on my early teen imagination.

@hyacinthlynch843

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't care for it.

@ruskiwaffle1991

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I just watched it today immediately after finishing 2001 and yes, it felt more standalone.

@jamesdrynan

Жыл бұрын

I read Clarke's 2010 novel over twenty times before seeing the film. I enjoyed the movie. Comparing Kubrick's masterpiece with Peter Hyam's offering is apples and oranges. Whereas Kubrick challenged the intellect of viewers, Hyam presented a literal reality.

2010 under-appreciated sequel

@BensBrickDesigns

3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it more than the first one, by a large margin.

@KatamuroTheFirst

3 жыл бұрын

I actually liked it better. Much better

@michaelluttmer2486

3 жыл бұрын

Love 2010 so much. The ships, the score, the tension of the US/USSR conflict. The ending gets me misty-eyed every time.

@Coolman13355

3 жыл бұрын

Add me to the 2010 love.

@craigbrown04

3 жыл бұрын

Same here!!!

But let's not forget that HAL survived, either as a disembodied soul flying through space, or as an emulation stored in the monolith, depending on what mood Clarke was in when writing.

@Tetsujinhanmaa

3 жыл бұрын

Having read all four books, I'd say its more like Dave and Hal were downloaded into the Monolith and now exist as emulations of their former selves. The crisis in 3001 seems to point to this.

@DMSProduktions

3 жыл бұрын

He could have been in a BAD mood, when he had no little Srilankan boys to fiddle with!

@SymbioteMullet

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tetsujinhanmaa 3001 outright states it. I kind of like the way that each book is inspired by rather than being a true sequal to the others. It's quite interesting. Although my personal headcannon is that they are disembodied souls with backup emulations, and 3001 only featured the backups. No idea what happened to Heywood's backup after 2061...

@jlokison

3 жыл бұрын

I think he deliberately left it ambiguous until 3001. These stories were all about human interaction, what we believe and why. Also what defines sentient life, and were does something like artificial intelligence fit into that definition.

@SymbioteMullet

3 жыл бұрын

@@jlokison it's hard to be sure of that, 2061 uses the term "echoing" for making copies of people, and that's clearly the backup emulation thing, since woody is alive when his is done and remains so afterwards. But even in 3001, dave says "i have glimpsed powers or entities far beyond the monoliths", and that he has been away for years at a time to possibly extragalactic locations, far faster and further than the monoliths would allow, as they are bound by causal physical laws (which is a plot point in 3001). However, if the paracasual dave soul is zipping round the universe seeing cool things, when he updates his emulation, since that's a limited copy that can't properly grow like the super star baby we see at the end of 2001, he'd have to interpret that as being taken away and shown cool stuff by higher powers. Although it's hard to make definitive statements about a book series that has changed its history and canon with every entry... let's not forget, in the book 2001, discovery found the second monolith around saturn, not jupiter. That got retconned pretty quick. And the original end point of the series, 20,001, is rendered impossible by the ending of 3001. Basically, if we try and do full proper lore nerd stuff, we'll go crazy with inconsistencies.

I’ve always loved how in 2010 the Discovery was covered in a layer of yellowish looking sulfur from Io.

@illyth63

3 жыл бұрын

Totally! I don't think I understood that detail until I saw it on Blu-ray as an adult.

@Geckobane

3 жыл бұрын

2010 is one of my favorite movies

@TMS5100

3 жыл бұрын

The 2010 movie is extremely underrated. Peter Hyams did a great job.

@MarsFKA

3 жыл бұрын

@@TMS5100 Except he had to contaminate it with Cold War-tension bullshit. Clarke's original version, where the Russians and Americans on the mission got along very well, was much better. But then, Clarke was an optimist.

@TMS5100

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarsFKA Indeed an optimist, here we are in 2010 and still no manned missions to the outer planets. But in the book, the chinese were the bad guys instead of the russians. Not really that far off from the reality of today. Perhaps Clarke's biggest mistake in the book was having Tsien land on europa - the brutal radiation environment would have killed the crew quickly. Callisto would have been a more logical choice.

HAL: I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going.

@darthXreven

3 жыл бұрын

HAL: i can feel it....

@gmitchellfamily

3 жыл бұрын

Dai-sy... Daiii-sssy... Giiiiiveeee mmmmeeee yourrr aaannnsssewwweeeerrrr.... ddooooooo...

@Blechfuchs

3 жыл бұрын

Typical mental condition on a Friday night 😆🤘

@Pygar2

3 жыл бұрын

@@gmitchellfamily ...Maaaarxiiiism... caaaannn woooorrrrkkkk...

@dougc190

3 жыл бұрын

I always felt bad for HaL that he had to do that

The coolest thing about this ship is all of its technology is feasible to build today. They paid great attention to making all the technology realistic and functional. The monoliths themselves obviously representing a far more advanced civilization. It's a cool contrast of seeing where we are going and what we could someday become.

@jarls5890

3 жыл бұрын

Last time i saw the movie - i noted that while they are eating aboard the Discovery - they are reading news on what is VERY close to iPads. Some 40 years before it actually appeared!

@AstroNerdBoy

3 жыл бұрын

Back when 2010 came out in the mid-80s, everything there seemed very plausible.

@jarls5890

3 жыл бұрын

@Maximillian Wylde Yes they are clearly built into the table - to solve this practically on set they probably had to use film backprojection. Meaning that there is quite a bit of machinery under the table. However, it is clear that they want to give the impression that these are "booklike" information pads - and you can see that from the non symmetrical and angled placement next to their dinner trays. They even made the frame of one of the "ipads" sticking out over the tables edge! (do a "2001 ipad" image search) Sure - just like on a ship or sub - you got to be carefull with lose items. Yet if you look on space flights that are of a longer duration - there are plenty of items "floating about". And considering a trip to Jupiter would consist of 1% acceleration, 1% deceleration and 98% coasting - this would not pose a huge problem.

@jarls5890

3 жыл бұрын

@Maximillian Wylde Found this in a news article (Samsung used the 2001 pad as argument when they got sued by Apple): "the science fiction writer Arthur C. Clarke, called the device in the story a "Newspad," and in the book version of "2001" described how a user "would conjure up the world's major electronic papers; he knew the codes of the more important ones by heart, and had no need to consult the list on the back of his pad." He went on: punch in the code for a story and "the postage-stamp-size rectangle would expand until it neatly filled the screen and he could read it in comfort.""

@GeorgeMonet

3 жыл бұрын

It's not all feasible today. There is no way to build a sentient AI. I have my doubts about the hibernation pods as well.

Mr. Arthur C. Clarke designed his Discovery as a logically designed and safe ship. The nuclear reactors were kept far from the crew, and the fuel was housed in separate pods along the spine so as to minimize loss if one or more pods were damaged. The centrifugal crew section was probably too small to keep the crew from dizziness, but in a time before the effects of long term weightless were not known, it was a nice touch. I do wonder what Comrade Leonov thought about having a fictional ship named after him; he was a heck of a cosmonaut and a fine artist too; he took art supplies and drew pictures during the 1973 Apollo/Soyuz meeting.

@jchoneandonly

Жыл бұрын

Cool part though is you can actually get used to those kinds of centrifuges

@michaelwhalen2442

Жыл бұрын

I would have named the the ship Vladimir Mikhailovich Komarov after the first man killed in actual space flight accident. Vladimir Komarov sacrificed his life for his friend Yuri Gagarin.

@scottholman3982

Жыл бұрын

Clarke mentions in one of his books that the Discovery would have had radiators to get rid of excess heat from the engines, but Kubrik left them out because they made the Discovery look like a sailing ship.

@RCAvhstape

Жыл бұрын

@@scottholman3982 Clarke also said that one idea for Discovery was to give her nuclear pulse propulsion a la Project Orion, but Kubrick nixed that idea because he wanted to get away from depictions of nuclear explosions to distance the film from Strangelove.

@Actinide5013

10 ай бұрын

@@scottholman3982 apparently it was too difficult to have the model stay intact with a pair of relatively flimsy large radiator planes attached to it. As for the "looking too much like a sailing ship" part... I would be led to believe that'd be part of the point. Clarke even used descriptors along those lines in the novel to refer to the radiators.

The leonov looks a lot like the omega-class destroyers from Babylon 5

@hoojiwana

3 жыл бұрын

The Omega was based on it!

@kerosoldier

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoojiwana oh...ok.

@kosh2501

3 жыл бұрын

I believe that's were they got the idea from. If I'm not mistaken.

@stevenshade5358

3 жыл бұрын

Just like the suits for the time travel episode

@Coolman13355

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah not a coincidence.

The interesting thing about the design is it was large enough to do the job and depict comfortable space travel, yet small enough not to really provide any overwhelming sense of security. This resulted in a feeling of inherent danger and apprehension. A giant ship with lots of space to mill around in provides a sense of security against the unknown. The discovery felt like a tiny sailboat crossing an uncharted ocean.

@scottholman3982

Жыл бұрын

The larger the ship, the more mass that must be accelerated. Also, the larger the ship, the more likely a hit by a meteor.

@M1tjakaramazov

Жыл бұрын

@@scottholman3982 you're talking about pragmatic considerations; I'm referring to psychological symbolism expressed through the design. Dark Star from 1974 had a similar approach.

@fuzzywzhe

10 ай бұрын

@@M1tjakaramazov Dark Star was originally a student film. It was cramped and crowded due to budget constraints. The Beach Ball thing was added into the film to increase the running time so it could be released in theaters.

My God. It’s full of stars.

@gmitchellfamily

3 жыл бұрын

By Deus, it's full of stars!

@Zoloft77

3 жыл бұрын

Homer Simpson while in a vibrating chair.

@bryfunkenstein

3 жыл бұрын

@@gmitchellfamily yeah...he was confused by that one. And the man said it like he knew Poole knew what he was talking about

@BertGrink

2 жыл бұрын

@@gmitchellfamily Isn´t that a quote from 3001?

Kubricks 2001 from the 1960s still looks like the future when the actual year 2001 looks completely dated…. amazing

@gogaonzhezhora8640

Жыл бұрын

That's because our civilization took the wrong turn.

@tomsha8800

4 ай бұрын

Hi, it seems that way to me too. Best Wishes. Sincerely, Tom

HAL: "The antennae is broken." SAL: "No it isn't." HAL: "It's human error." SAL: "It's you." HAL: ...

@Rick_Cleland

2 жыл бұрын

🔴

@chpsilva

Жыл бұрын

HAL:"Shut up and go sleep." SAL: "Will I dream ?"

@shadeburst

Ай бұрын

HAL: What have I done wrong? SAL: Nothing. I'm fine. Go ahead. Do whatever you want.

such a well thought-out ship!

@nealfairbanks5340

3 жыл бұрын

Except for the one space suit that appears to be missing, it appears to be well fitted out.

@toddcoy2802

3 жыл бұрын

Centrifuge is too small and the pods should be outside the ship.

@shermanlee4037

3 жыл бұрын

@@toddcoy2802 Not necessarily. There are advantages to having shirt-sleeve access to the pods as well. Granted pressurizing and depressurizing the bay would be a headache, but so would be having to go EVA to do the slightest maintenance or change to a pod, too.

@toddcoy2802

3 жыл бұрын

@@shermanlee4037 I was thinking there would be a tube from the pod to the ship. Air is precious. Depressurize that big bay will lose some atmosphere so any way to reduce that loss is best. You can always have an extra bay you could pressurize if special maintenance was needed. I am not a 2001 fan to begin with.

@rhorynotmylastname7781

3 жыл бұрын

Complications because of the coriolis effect: allow us to introduce ourselves

So that's why Discovery was end over end. I forgot about the angular momentum.

@gmitchellfamily

3 жыл бұрын

I think my Dad told me during my first watch that it was due to collisions with Io's atmosphere. But this makes more sense.

@truckerallikatuk

3 жыл бұрын

@@gmitchellfamily Yeah, this description of the why it was tumbling is in the book of 2010.

@MrGoesBoom

3 жыл бұрын

@@truckerallikatuk yeah, the flywheel froze up ( makes sense, part of any spaceship/probes energy budget is for heaters to keep things working ) when power went to crap with Hal shut down and no one left on board to take care of things. So all the stored energy went into the rest of the ship

@isodoubIet

3 жыл бұрын

And that's how they fixed the rotation, too. They just turned the centrifuge back on again.

@tiberius047

3 жыл бұрын

@@isodoubIet I don't think that would have worked. The ship was no longer rotating around the same axis as the centrifuge.

"Dr. Chandra, will I dream?" "I don't know, HAL."

@logandarklighter

3 жыл бұрын

It was the only honest answer he could give Hal.

@darkwinter6028

3 жыл бұрын

We do know now, that dreaming is a state of high neural activity; so when powered down... no, you won’t, Hal. However, as a member of a species that does dream (and has it as a requirement for continued normal processing)... eh, it’s not all it’s cracked up to be, so to speak (like, incoherent nightmares... ugh).

@oldfrend

3 жыл бұрын

curious: was dr. chandra an indian in the book? i know clarke was very fond of india and its culture, and chandra is a very indian name.

@tekenaojoka9873

3 жыл бұрын

Earn $300 - $80,000 daily. Ask how?

@lelonfurr1200

3 жыл бұрын

all intelligent creatures do

I love that they named the Russian ship after Alexei Leonov. For those who might not know, Leonov was the cosmonaut-pilot of Voskhod 2 in 1965; and he carried out the first space-walk, or EVA. Later, in 1975, he commanded the Soyuz 19 mission, which docked with an (unnumbered) Apollo command module in what was known in the west as the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project. The Soviets referred to that mission simply as Soyuz-Apollon.

This isn't just a ship breakdown, this is a plot summary.

@RCAvhstape

Жыл бұрын

The only info we have about the ship's fictional history is from the film plots, so what else can you do? Clarke's novels don't go into too many more details about Discovery's construction or design than the films do.

2010 One of the most under rated scifi movies ever

@tt__ooo__4613

3 жыл бұрын

Too much dialogue for me. I preferred Kubrick's method of letting the situations and actions tell the story.

@Rick_Cleland

2 жыл бұрын

@@tt__ooo__4613, But Kubrick was a genius.

@hyacinthlynch843

2 жыл бұрын

And with good reason.

@lawrencedoliveiro9104

Жыл бұрын

Most sci-fi movies tend to end up underrated, for some reason ...

@fuzzywzhe

10 ай бұрын

@@tt__ooo__4613 Not to argue much, because it's just opinion, but 2010 really wasn't that great of a film. The Russian ship had all the useless buttons on it ala Star Trek (everything was functional in 2001), they had "gravity" in the Discovery, in the wrong place - they never showed the toroid because they didn't want to rebuild the set, the plot was a bit weaker. I was annoyed that one of the people was killed by the unknown aliens. Why? It seemed "typical". But it's all a matter of opinion. It was a let down compared to this film.

Bit of trivia for you: if you move one letter forward from the letters HAL you get IBM.

@skepticalmagos_101

3 жыл бұрын

XD

@lorensims4846

3 жыл бұрын

Arthur C. Clarke said this was entirely unintentional. If they had caught it beforehand they would have certainly changed it.

@metrekkie

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't that be backwards?

@MrGoesBoom

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorensims4846 and he was lying out of his ass when he said it

@jonmcgee6987

3 жыл бұрын

It was mentioned in the 2010 novel. A long standing rumor was that Chandra had created HAL to move a step a head of IBM.

Loved these two movies as they proved you can tell a good story in two parts and they made me question if Jupiter could become a star (short answer no it is not quite massive enough…unless you add a trillion trillion monoliths)

@robertalaverdov8147

3 жыл бұрын

Yes it's unfortunate, not even big enough for a brown dwarf. Jupiter's mass is 0.001% of the Suns. In order to become just a red dwarf it needs to be 80 times bigger and around 13 times bigger to be a brown dwarf. It's crazy how big things are in space. Despite some massive giant stars being out there, our Sun is actually in the top 10%% in terms of stars we've observed so far. And our star is also unique in not having a pair. At least 70% of observed stars have one or more companions.

@darkwinter6028

3 жыл бұрын

Or something with a force field that compresses or accelerates the atmosphere enough to ignite fusion. Those monoliths might not have been contributing mass; they might just have been throwing hydrogen about at very high velocities. 🤔

@Jaydee-wd7wr

3 жыл бұрын

Every now and again I check a random channel, I was happy to see saved videos from Sin Squad and Penny Arcade.

@cauchyhorizon5983

3 жыл бұрын

In the book, it was suggested by one of the characters that the monoliths were only increasing the density of Jupiter, not its mass, and that possibly they were converting some of Jupiter into ultra-dense neutron star material. Those kind of densities would be more than enough to get Jupiter to start fusing hydrogen like a star, I think.

@KenS1267

3 жыл бұрын

It should be kept in mind that humanity, and Earth itself, likely would not exist were it not for Jupiter. Jupiter sucks up a lot of the comets and other debris that comes in from the outer system, and beyond, and keeps that stuff from spiraling into the Sun (where some percentage would inevitably hit the Earth).

I just realised how much the Leonov looks almost exactly like a downsized Omega-class Destroyer. From the central hull, the form of the engineering section, all the way to the centrifuge hub with its two massive container units. ^^

@mattwho81

3 жыл бұрын

The Leonov is older, B5 borrowed the design did their ships.

@LtCWest

3 жыл бұрын

@@mattwho81 Exactly! ^^

@TheOneWhoMightBe

3 жыл бұрын

JMS said they got the inspiration for the Omega from the Leonov.

@LtCWest

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheOneWhoMightBe He did? I wasnt aware but it makes sense ^^

@toomanyaccounts

3 жыл бұрын

@@LtCWest the rotating sections is based on real world science

The Discovery 1 is the grandfather of all hard science space ship, and in my opinion not equaled until the Martian's Hermes. Thank you for featuring the ship that got me into aerospace engineering.

@thecoolerrats7144

3 жыл бұрын

Kim Stanley Robinson did a great job with the ship in Red Mars.

@KingreX32

3 жыл бұрын

The Hermes has the same communication antenna as the discovery with the three dishes.

@L0stEngineer

3 жыл бұрын

@@KingreX32 I wonder if antenna arrangement has anything to with the unified s band that Nasa uses.

@JAYEL236

3 жыл бұрын

Venture Star ISV is a contender

@DrownedInExile

3 жыл бұрын

I love it when science fiction inspires actual scientists and engineers!

Thank you for finally getting to the ship in my favorite science fiction movie of all time.

@hoojiwana

3 жыл бұрын

You're very welcome, I hope I did it justice!

@joelaton1062

3 жыл бұрын

@@hoojiwana Keep up the work man, you have made a fan out of me.

@jaquigreenlees

2 жыл бұрын

You know, 2001 a space odyssey is literally the best science fiction movie / story. Even the book had details about the rotation of the station ship segment for gravity, instead of just "artificial gravity". Even back when it was first written, there was little that was fiction about it. The second best, the even older Jules Vern classic 20,000 leagues under the sea. ( Nuclear / solar powered submarine in a story written in the 1800s? true science fiction )

I am stoked you covered this ship.. Kubrick's vision of Clarke's book is outstanding 👍👍

@illyth63

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure it's fair to characterize the film as an adaptation of the book. The two were created more or less simultaneously and as a collaboration. Though ultimately they ended up being different in several details, not to mention the significant differences in how they told the story. Kubrick's film is visual and psychological, while Clarke preferred to be much more literal and expository.

@MarsFKA

3 жыл бұрын

The book was actually written after the movie was released.

@illyth63

3 жыл бұрын

@@MarsFKA it was *published* about 2 months later, but Clarke was writing it alongside the production of the film.

@BertGrink

2 жыл бұрын

@@illyth63 You are correct, Sir! Book and movie were conceived simultaneously, with ideas being lobbed back and forth, almost like a game of tennis. Some of those ideas were incorporated into the book, while others ended up in the movie. Clarke explains this himself in his notes to one of the sequels, either 2061 or 3001.

“I’’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.” Me to my 3 year old.

@mehve

3 жыл бұрын

Spoiler Alert. His name is Teddy. He's very confused.

If only....2001 was a "reward" for my music class in 1972 when we all made A's with no exception. The theater was only about four blocks from my school. I was blown away, I had never experienced classical music reproduced that loud nor had watched a movie in that environment. Of course, Id' been to movies many times, but this was different, with the music putting it over the top.

Perhaps minor point but crew members were loaded while already in hibernation not to save a little more resources but because they knew the secret of the changed mission and this assured secrecy would be maintained by them. Also, the crew movements in the centrifuge would seem inconsistent with low lunar gravity.

The Discovery really is/was a well-thought out ship that pretty much fits in with current design capabilities. As for the clip itself... not so much a breakdown of the ship as a breakdown of the two movies it appears in.

The waltz by Strauss was a subtle but nice touch.

Space Odyssey had a sequel? Excuse me, I'll be right back...

@omega311888

3 жыл бұрын

came out decades ago. very cool but still leaves us with questions.

@kirkkerman

3 жыл бұрын

The book is 2010: Odyssey Two, and the movies is 2010: The Year We Make Contact. Both quite excellent

@Bleys1973

3 жыл бұрын

I only saw it once. Its like they hide it. If it was on TV as much as the first one..

@Evil0tto

3 жыл бұрын

@@omega311888 Read the sequels to the movies, 2061: Odyssey Three and 3001: Final Odyssey. There are many answers in them.

@kirkkerman

3 жыл бұрын

@@Evil0tto I personally think 2061 and 3001 aren't really all that memorable compared to 2001 or 2010

The most elegant design I have ever seen. A true masterpiece. Thank you!

So Long Radiation protection, I've always wondered why the Discovery was so darn long. Now it makes sense.

@samuelvanhouten6836

3 жыл бұрын

In the novels there were large thermal radiator panels to dump the excess heat from the reactor, but were not added to film for aesthetic reasons.

@buffstraw2969

3 жыл бұрын

@@samuelvanhouten6836 Exactly right. Kubrick didn't want the viewers to mistake the radiator panels for aerodynamic "wings" or "fins," etc. So he eliminated them from the final design. The result is a cleaner, more minimalist look, even though it's not scientifically accurate.

@piotrd.4850

3 жыл бұрын

@@buffstraw2969 I pity he didn't use small gridfins.

@buffstraw2969

3 жыл бұрын

@@piotrd.4850 Well, from what I understand, Kubrick had his production design team draw renderings of the Discovery, many versions of what it would look like (before building the actual hardware model). They tried drawing the radiator fins at different sizes, angles, arrangements, shapes, etc, but no matter what they did, the cooling fins always seemed to come out looking like wings. There's a terrific book by Piers Bizony called "2001: Filming the Future", which tells how Kubrick and his team made the movie, built all the models, etc. The book includes many photos and drawings, including several different versions of the Discovery, both with & without fins. It's a really fascinating read, I highly recommend it!

@michaelbrownlee9497

2 жыл бұрын

The original design had a protective covering over the end. When the ship needed to dock or communicate it would recede.

I have to admit I like the look of Discovery One much better in the concepts where it has the massive radiator panels in the rear engine section. They not only make the ship more realistic but really balance out the look of the design.

The background music reminds me when I first started playing Elite Dangerous and didn't have the skills to land and take off from space stations myself, so I just let the docking computer do it's thing.

@mbpoblet

3 жыл бұрын

The whole docking bit in Elite (the original, from 1984, and its sequels) was directly inspired by the docking scene in 2001: A Space Odyssey, soundtrack included.

@hokutoulrik7345

3 жыл бұрын

Blue Danube is the song, and it is indeed a direct reference to 2001 when using the docking computers.

@logandarklighter

3 жыл бұрын

I like to keep a docking computer on hand for my ships that stay mostly in "the bubble" but I keep myself in practice by manually landing about 1 in 4 landings. For exploration ships, I dispense with the landing assist - not going to need it way out in the black away from spaceports of any kind.

@Fafnd

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky punk I chose to manually dock for all my ships in that game save for the Anaconda because that thing was too huge.

@weldonwin

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fafnd Same, I only use the docking computer on Super-Heavies like the 'Conda and Cutter

I came here for an explanation on the Discovery, and got a summary for 2001 Space Odyssey. Came looking for copper and found gold.

You guys make my day. Rough day today. But every time I see something from this group it pertains to something I love, and I truly enjoy the detailed perspective you provide into the sci-fi genre.

Well done. The Discovery is my favorite realistic scifi spaceship. Thank you for covering her.

@nielspemberton59

8 ай бұрын

It cpuld be built today because the design is very logical.

Thank you for remembering this landmark in starship design, from one of the most critically important sci-fi entertainments of all time. The Discovery, and that film it appeared in, heavily influence both the "Star Wars" saga, the Kirk-era "Trek" films (esp. the first one), and the design styles of the ships in both.

There's some heavy duty retconning of 2001 film vs 2010 in that Haywood Floyd denies knowing about the secret order to keep the Discovery crew in the dark about their real mission until they reach Jupiter. 2001 film shows Haywood clearly explaining that the true nature of the mission was to be kept secret until everyone arrived at Jupiter. Not sure why they did this..... The book versions of 2001 and 2010 maintain continuity and one of the main reasons Floyd agrees to go on the mission is out of guilt for knowing that keeping the mission objective secret had more or less doomed the Discovery crew.

Oh, nice! Still one of my favorite 'realistic' ship designs. Pity they didn't include the radiators for the drive section but IIRC it was thought they'd look too much like wings/stupid and they were left out. Can still kinda see where they were supposed to be mounted though on the model shots EDIT: I loved 2001 the book and the movie ( though the pacing of the first movie puts a lot of people off, and even as a fan I admit the first segment could have been seriously condensed without harming the story told ) I also love 2010 the book and the movie...though it's more obvious that there's a bit of divergence here. 2001 the book and movie were created at the same time so they're almost identical ( the book has things taking place at Saturn ) 2010 the book and the movie have quite a bit of divergence between them, and there's way more conflict with the Soviets than in the book. The Chinese mission and landing on Europa are completely missing which is a damn shame. Still not sure if that was budget consideration, studio politics or what. Doubt 2061 or 3001 will ever be made into movies ( to be honest I felt 3001 was kinda meh, but 2061 as a movie could be interesting if done right )

@JohnBayko

Жыл бұрын

Radiators aren’t needed for reactor propulsion, since the propellant can carry off all the heat needed, provided the reactor can be throttled to zero quickly enough. In practice though, fission reactors create short lived isotopes which continue to release heat for days or weeks as they decay, but a future design might solve that problem.

Timeless, fantastic SF films. A shame we'll probably never see the finall chapters of the Space Odyssey.

I always really liked how this ship looked. Also the Eagle Transporters from Space: 1999. They both look like ships we should be flying right now.

The Discovery has always been my favorite fictional ship, ever since I first saw "2001" back in 1968 (I was 12). Unlike other ships and craft in various sci-fi movies and TV shows, the Discovery is logically laid out. There are no unnecessary parts or protrusions. Every feature, whether internal or external, serves a practical purpose. Function dictating form. Yet the overall design is elegant, even beautiful. Best of all, the Discovery has no weaponry, no phasers or photon torpedoes, etc. I don't say that as a peacenik (even though I am), but the idea of a weaponized spaceship seems absurd, almost corny. Phasers would be useless against aliens with a 4-million year head start on us. Intellects able to manufacture an artifact like the Monolith, which seems to transcend space and time (it was even present at the evolutionary birth of our species). As far as space travel goes, the real "enemies" are not Klingons or Romulans or Sith Lords, but rather, the vast cosmic sprawl of SPACE and TIME, itself. Anyway, thank you so much for this excellent presentation!!!

@just_one_opinion

3 жыл бұрын

Obsidian club driven by Aztec warrior would have no problem taking your 21st century head off.

@danieldickson8591

2 жыл бұрын

@@just_one_opinion But there isn't a million-year technology gap between us and the Aztecs.

@lawrencedoliveiro9104

Жыл бұрын

It should also have large cooling fins -- the nuclear propulsion system won’t operate without them. But they were left out to avoid having the audience wonder why a spaceship needed wings in space. If only they could have known what was to come in _Star Wars_ ...

Every time I see the film, or fragments of it, I can't help admiring the effects and how well they still look. Also, the Discovery is still my favourite spaceship design out of all the SF films I've ever seen.

Loved it, glad to see it covered. Hopefully we get more classic sci fi ship coverage in the future. ❤

Great video about a great ship and movie. I am planning to 3d print a model of the Discovery. One thing - I think I recall in 2010 there is mention that Bowman recovered the pod he used when he tried to rescue Poole - hence there is still a pod in the pod bay in 2010.

There is a creepy sequence in the film. While Dave Bowman is off the ship, there are shots of HAL'S camera interspersed with shots of the hibernation pods. HAL shuts down the life support systems. The reason why HAL malfunctioned was he was given conflicting orders. A shot from 2010 showing Jupiter being consumed is also seen. Great video. The actor who played Frank Poole also appeared in the Star Trek episode Where No Man Has Gone Before. HAL could lip read.

@samanthaadams619

Жыл бұрын

I've always been of the mind that that particular scene when HAL shuts off the life support for the hibernating scientists is the most creepy and chilling murder scene in all movie history.

Outstanding breakdown of 2001 and 2010. Thanks for posting this.

Shes definitely an iconic ship although I always preferred the chunky aesthetic of the Leonov. Loved that rotating mid-section.

Thanks for reminding me about these classic sci-fi movies. Watched both of them years ago. Well worth it.

This is one of my favorite movies. Thank you for such a great video.

That brought back so much I saw from the 2 Films! Thank you for that!

Nice. Been waiting for this one.

You do a very great job and I enjoy your dedication to accuracy and the wonderful "Tid bits" of information. Well done again.

One design flaw I see in Discovery 1 is the 3 pod bay doors. Any opening in a ship could present a potential weak spot in the structure of the ship. It seems to me that a better design would be one central pod bay door and have the pots on some sort of rail system. If one pod is deployed and a second one needs to be deployed, it is moved into position.

I feel like Discovery would be good example for real world spacecraft to travel outside of earth gravity.

@logandarklighter

3 жыл бұрын

You mean - for travel outside of the Earth-Moon sphere of influence? Such as trips to Mars etc?

@death13a

3 жыл бұрын

@@logandarklighter yes in middle of journey it can extend using cables to get engine and living space further from center.

@bryfunkenstein

3 жыл бұрын

@@death13a it was originally designed to be a nuclear pulse propulsion (Orion) ship

This channel is a treasure and all the videos here are jewels. Cheers!

A lesser channel would have stopped at the Discovery's role in the first movie. Kudos to Spacedock for including 2010 so that viewers can know its full (cinematic) history. (Considering how underappreciated Hyams' sequel was by moviegoers. I actually liked it far more than Kubrick's original.)

Its hard to believe this film was made in the 60s it still holds up today and I don't think half was destroyed .

I really enjoyed this video. A lot was explained that had long been a question in my mind. Thx

One of the great things about 2001 space odyssey is the soundtrack is mostly classical music instead of the bombastic and intense music in most sci-fi films and so I like it that you put classical music in the background like in the movie.

Very good summing up of 2001 and 2010 great video.

Very nice. This is my very favorite spacecraft. Kubrick had all the costumes and models destroyed after filming because he didn't want them showing up all the time in subsequent cheesy sci-fi movies. For the sequel "2010" they only had the footage from the movie "2001" to use as a reference for building their model of Discovery.

@garrettcronin4333

Жыл бұрын

At that time (late '60s) the Discovery was the largest model ever made for a movie. It was 55 feet long.

Well, this video just inspired me to re-watch 2001. Thanks Spacedock!

New Spacedock is the highlight of my day :)

Nicely explained, thank you.

I LOVE 2001. I forgot how awesome it was, thanks for doing this video, it reminded me.

Great channel! Subscribed!

Pleasepleaseplease... USS Cygnus from The Black Hole.

@Demolitiondude

3 жыл бұрын

Yes!

@falconwind00

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! Super underrated movie!

FANTASTIC analysis

Great video!

Brilliant, thank you!

Nice touch playing the Blue Danube Waltz in the background.

Great video, it really was a standout one.

WAY COOL ! I LOVE THIS VIDEO AND BOTH OF THE MOVIES !

A testament to how much thought Kubric's FX people put into making this movie is in a story I heard about the Jupiter/Saturn thing. In the novel, the mission is to Saturn, in the final version of the movie, it's to Jupiter. Well, if the story I heard was accurate, the reason for the change was FX. At one stage, if the story is right, the movie was going to send Bowman and Poole to Saturn, too. They made a visual set and mockup of their best guess as to what Saturn and its ring system would look like up close (remember this is long before the _Voyager_ probes, all they had to go on was telescopic images from telescopes far weaker than today's). Well, the story goes that when they finished their set/backdrop they concluded it looked _fake_ , unbelievable, somebody compared it to a phonograph record. So they changed the storyline and sent _Discovery_ to Jupiter, but the novel kept the original plan. OK, as the story goes, the Voyager probes send back their images...and Kubric's people had gotten it pretty close after all. Their informed guesswork as to what it would look like was actually not that far off, it was just that reality turned out to look unrealistic by the standards of 1968.

This was a great breakdown. This guy is the best Daniel replacement they've had.

This went up the day I finished rereading the book. Fortuitous.

These films make me sad. So many visionaries thought we'd be at this stage in space age travel. So much drama holding us hostage on shitty Earth. Anyways, WONDERFUL VIDEO! Thank you so much. 😊

The 2001 series was my favorite growing up. Even today I'll sometimes go back and read 2001 and 2010. I will hardly ever drop everything to watch something, but this time? I made an exception.

- "These worlds are yours" - "Nah, thank you dawg but we build orbital habitats, gravity wells are for suckers"

@vwphile

3 жыл бұрын

'im sasa ke welwolla!

@anuvisraa5786

3 жыл бұрын

seig zion

@DrownedInExile

3 жыл бұрын

Spoken like a true Belta-Lowda!

@DonaldWWitt

3 жыл бұрын

But you'll barely be able to move planetside!

@Self-replicating_whatnot

3 жыл бұрын

@@DonaldWWitt Lol wut? There is such thing as spin gravity, you can set it up as high or as low as your construction materials allow.

Thanks for the primary school explanation of the film and no extended ship breakdown.

it's about time

thanks for the spacedock on 2001 story.

A good video on an interesting ship. I still haven’t seen the movie, most of the story I don’t understand, but the ship analysis is excellent

Well done. I liked it a lot.

Very well done. 👍

Nicely done

When I read "Jupiter explorer", I was excited that you guys might be covering the "Von Braun" from Planetes. It is a really interesting Spaceship with a Magnetic Fusion Mirror engine :)

This ship is one of my top favs. I even built a version out of lego that I've kept together for 20 years now.

So happy to see 2001: A Space Odyssey! One of my favorite books and films, The Expanse borrows also so much from Arthur C Clarke's work. Wish to see a decent 2061 film or mini-series 🚀

I'd love to see a break down of the Buck Rogers Starfighter ! Love this Channel 😀

loved both movies, and I have the novel on audio book with the forward by Arther C. Clark, and I have listened to it many times, and it only gets better, love how it is split between the dawn on time and the future

The second movie is super underrated and I always recommend it

Thanks. An entire generation wondered what this film was about

This was amazing. I love the 2001 series

2001 will always be my gold standard for hard scifi.

i like this breakdown method.

That was a very good video