Absolutely fantastic job with the comparison! Congratulations on buying your grail brother.

@BruceWilliams

3 жыл бұрын

We've both purchased grail level watches recently. Yours is outstanding :D

@a1motivationchannel232

Жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliamswhich strap you using with seiko please reply ❤

If they strive hard enough one day Rolex could be a great brand like Seiko

@muhammadzayed8786

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@jeiols

2 жыл бұрын

@@muhammadzayed8786 dont laugh you dont know the legacy of seiko

@muhammadzayed8786

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeiols I love seiko. Infact It's my fav brand.

@ralex3531

2 жыл бұрын

Damn straight misaligned chapter rings and +-15 accuracy and all 😂

@oks1358

2 жыл бұрын

@@ralex3531 i mean you have grand seiko if 15 second per month bothers you

The moment you said the price of the Sub, the Seiko won for me.

Sekio has a lot of bragging rights considering the price 1. Looks super cool 2. The brand is a luxury brand with 120 years of history with many great achievements in horology 3. All in house Japanese watch ( some consider this a badge of honour) 4. The sekio last lifetime

@Gospodin_Kurac

3 ай бұрын

Who's sekio?

There is one thing Seiko will always have....the ability to be easily modified and personalized without the fear of killing its value.

@BruceWilliams

3 жыл бұрын

True that

@facetiousmonkey5322

3 жыл бұрын

Check out Lume shot. His Bloodmoon is awesome!

@valengreymoon5623

3 жыл бұрын

@@facetiousmonkey5322Oh yeah, I've seen that one. Sporting a full sapphire, completely lumed PADI J Turtle, myself.

@damachine3

3 жыл бұрын

It could also be smashed with a hammer without killing its value. Kidding!

@valengreymoon5623

3 жыл бұрын

@@damachine3 LOL. No 2 year waiting list to get another, should that happen. :)

Next video, $100 Timex vs $100,000 Patek...

@reecemesser

3 жыл бұрын

Timex will likely win

@luisloya1120

3 жыл бұрын

Bah humbug.

In my opinion, either Seiko should cost the same as Rolex, or Rolex should cost the same as Seiko.

$20,000? c'mon...

I think at this point, knowing what I know, I would stay away from Rolex. But I can't say that I do not think the Sub is the most iconic watch of the past little while. It is a great, great watch. I owned a few and believe it. The journey to reach this destination in my collecting involved a lot of Rolexes. Down to one now, a 36mm Datejust, I see the folly in it all. The first SKX I bought made me feel just about how I feel about my current watch. And it held its value, too. But I was compelled to investigate and purchase and sell loads of watches. I did it. Had some good moments. But now I wish I would have used that cash to study a new skill or buy a van and travel North and South America. The more cash I spent the happier I did not get. But when I do things, travel, meet people, learn stuff about the world, I am happier. Each person has there journey. I am not saying I am right and those who love and buy expensive watches are wrong. Because I have done it. I am saying that in my life, experiences > possesions, humanity > materialism. That's all. --Michael

@michaeledwardlenzi

3 жыл бұрын

@@MPD90 Good point definitely. I am thinking if resources are limited like in my case. I think if I would have stayed put with a good, solid Seiko I could have allocated resources and time in more happiness- producing endeavors rather than amassing a bunch of redundant possessions. But yeah, your point is correct.

@a.k722

3 жыл бұрын

Well said

@mccloudmungofa7431

3 жыл бұрын

Well said🙏🏾🙏🏾

@karlangeloarcenas7626

2 жыл бұрын

Rolex is an investment too

@Tiamat013

Жыл бұрын

Great journey my man. I don't have that much with materialism. I found this vid, because i just bought this watch... Wait for it. the seiko. And it does make me feel happy, but i made the choice, for buying something materialistic, Because it doesn't need any batteries ( and i appreciate the mechanism) And, for me i guess it feels the same way as for others that bought their submariner dreamwatch. Thanks for your story man.

The Seiko is charming IMO because it's honest, reliable, and modest. It ticks all the boxes for me and it's maintenance-free for years to come. I have several Seiko 5's that are running within COSC specs, so that's really amazing for the price you pay.

I cant believe there’s a review for this comparison I had in my head. Thank you Bruce!

This video confirms what I thought about rolex. I owned a couple of them over the years, and their value do not justify their cost, other than being a status symbol like Louis Vuitton etc...Thank you!! D

@konliner9286

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. LV is overpriced.

@wadimek116

10 ай бұрын

​@@konliner9286LV is the same as rolex. If you think one is overpriced second is overpriced to

That Seiko is $300.00.

I've had the Seiko you have here a bit now and i could not be more happy. I think the value is just so profound. I love their look, accurate, just good nice feel. The back glass where you can see the tiny parts doing their thing. Its just so great.

I think buying a Rolex is a great statement. But sticking with a Seiko when you have the capacity for a Rolex is the kind of thing that really appeals to me. Prioritising a trusted brand with a great reputation for quality and innovation without feeling that need for the validation from a Rolex. That hits different. To me.

Hey man, where did you get the rubber strap for the seiko?

Another great video... thank you, Bruce. I love how you can evaluate any watch for its own qualities, irrespective of price.

in reality the rolex is a 10K watch not 20K..Its been exploited by flippers and grey market and its value has run up ..That being said there is zero comparison here ,ones a entry level so so watch VS a expert level big branded overpriced luxury brand . That being said which will you dive with ? Prob neither ,id take my Seamaster LOL Thanks for the vid,on a side note I prefer the older SKX vs this new model because its crown is not screwdown

@achiltsompanos447

3 жыл бұрын

I dive with a citizen pro master eco drive and a mako 2. The 14060m stays home, safe queen. The hulk is a 10k watch.

@facetiousmonkey5322

3 жыл бұрын

Omega SM 300M Pro is THE diver to buy. 1. Brand recognition second only to Rolex 2. Open caseback and a superior movement (except for the 25200 beat rate) 3. Attainable. Anyone with the money can get one, and often with a bit of a discount. This last point may be the biggest reason the Rolex is more desirable than Omega in the eyes of the casual watch buyer

@damachine3

3 жыл бұрын

Of course Bruce knows that, since he bought his at retail (as did I) but that reality is in the past. It's discontinued, so he has to talk about what it would actually take to get one today. We could argue all of the reasons as to why and whether it's worth it or not, but that's simply what it takes to buy one today so that's what is relevant for someone who is comparing these two watches. You can blame it on flippers but there has to be a dumbass who's going to pay that much money for it. I would say blame them. They're the reason flippers exist.

@facetiousmonkey5322

3 жыл бұрын

@@derekshearer9049 Don't apologize for the reality we call life. Just because the majority of people cannot buy it for the price that THEY feel is correct, than it's hype/ garbage/ overrated/ sheep or whatever. Truth is, if the item is readily available, than only an "idiot" would pay MSRP.

@facetiousmonkey5322

3 жыл бұрын

@@derekshearer9049 What are you? Canadian?

Bruce, where did you get that strap for the 5kx? What's it called ?

@armandogomez2677

5 ай бұрын

Uncle straps just bought one for my skx. Long Island watch also has some but they aren’t same waffle pattern as Bruce’s

I'm looking to buy a green Seiko 5. Can't decide between the 63 and 61 though. I'd love to see a video with the 63 and 61 side by side - I've seen the 63 in person, on a local AD. Can't find the 61 anywhere, it seems like a harder version to come by, even online. And I don't want to order it without knowing if I like it (in some photos it looks more blueish, in others it looks to be a more vibrant green than the 63). Green is my favourite color and I want a vibrant one, but without blue tones. Guess I'll have to wait and see if it appears on the ADs around where I live. Would you happen to have any experience with the 61? Thanks

I've been a watch addict for some time now, been there, done that. Had the most iconic pieces, from the major brands, fell into the Rolex hype and thought i accomplished my watch journey. That was until i discovered the modified Seiko world, the utopia of this watch addiction, I'm here now and would never go back.

@armandoguzman3947

2 жыл бұрын

Great insight

Having both is actually a decent advice. I have a skx which I use for camping/hiking or similar activities. And my Rolex is for my normal daily use.

Great job. I own several Seiko and currently 1 Rolex. I love them all. But you’re right there is not that much of a value difference. But agree that having both is the way to go no question as I enjoy putting both on my wrist.

I want the link of that black strap put on the seiko. Can someone please help me out?

About 7 years ago, I bought my dream car at that time. I enjoyed it, up until the attention, both good and bad, became overwhelming. I was approached by car enthusiast, bringing forth both good vibes and many with ill intent. I was pulled over 3 times in my first week, and not once during those times was I over the speed limit. It was small things like the tint is too dark or the car seems a little too loud (it wasn’t a modified car by any means). I found myself being photographed and popping up on social media on random occasions. I didn’t like nor wanted the exposure, and I knew it was just getting worse. Within 2 years I decided to get rid of it, I didn’t like the attention. At all. Point being, Rolex is an amazing brand with quality of the highest of caliber. Unfortunately for many, it draws a lot of unwanted attention. Seiko brings good quality without risking unwanted attention. I have had several opportunities to own a sub, the one thing that stops me is attention that comes along with it. It doesn’t diminish the quality of Rolex, it does however diminish the positive experience I would otherwise have owing a watch and enjoy it as my own.

@Orozco_PNW

Жыл бұрын

Hope you are still enjoying a fun vehicle at least! Good for you in achieving your previous goal, must have been a good 'rush' when you first got it! (Sorry with the pun) I was finally able to get my first Volvo several years ago, which was my own goal. I've always seen them as respectable but not ostentatious, kind of like a Seiko it turns out! I am new to horology but am happy to have just ordered this SRDP63 and just hope it isn't too big for my 6.5" wrist... 🤣

The orient kamasu is a really good choice for an entry level watch specially the green dial

@TheBoldHairspring

3 жыл бұрын

Agree! Orient is the new Seiko. I went for the red kamasu though and I do prefer it over the new seiko 5s.

@adamb3129

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The Triton is also a good choice

@TheBoldHairspring

3 жыл бұрын

@@adamb3129 yep, the triton is a killer watch.

@adamb3129

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheBoldHairspring Yeah it’s amazing what Orient gives for the money. Currently saving for one now. I like your channel by the way. Just subbed!

@Amin_2k

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBoldHairspring The mini triton is a great watch as well if you can get it below 250 bucks

Where did you buy the seiko rubber strap?

Hey Bruce. Great vid. Oddly enough, I was deciding between my Sea Dweller 43 and they Green 5kx just this morning. Lol. Both great watches for what they are. Owning both sides of the spectrum give more of an objective and unbiased look. The extreme price difference isn’t justified... but... there is a LOT more work put into the Rolex. The movement alone, in my opinion, accounts for a few of those thousand. It’s an incredible piece of kit (as they would say across the pond). Free spring balance, Breguet overcoil, chronergy escapement, superlative chronometer.... Robust watchmaking at its best. That being said, the Seiko is a great watch for the money. It will never be as exactingly put together as the Rolex, as accurate as the Rolex or as prestigious... but it kicks butt.

And I thought I was crazy to do a video of my Tudor vs a Corgeut hommage 😂. Great video Bruce!

What strap do you have on the seiko?

Very good presentation and comparison. And some of your perspectives are really interesting. I mean most people buying Rolex dont even question the price relative to their income. And I believe it is a statement. I think I would buy one if I felt I had the money. I also rediscovered Seiko. My grandma used to travel to Japan in the 70'ies and brought back watches to me which were of a very high quality compaired at that time. I bought exactly a Seiko 5 Sports the other day because I wanted to have one in my collection and the history of the brand. Especially the fact that every piece in a Seiko unit is in house made just like Rolex. It's worth every penny in quality.

Hi Bruce. I know you like Rolex watches and wondered what you think of the invicta pro diver. Have you ever come across one, and if you did, what did you think of it. I bought one when me and my wife were on a cruise ship last year. it's in black and gold and I really like it.

What a great video it was, your comments were spot on, thank you

Where did you buy Seiko's rubber strap?

Bruce; What a novel idea. Since I have one of each. I can honestly say that the Seiko will receive more wrist time as a percentage as opposed to the Sub Hulk. Indeed the Rolex is a better watch in every way it just doesn't feel right to wear in every situation. So...I guess there is "more" utility with the Seiko. What do you think?

Just purchased the same kind of seiko 5 sports just in black dial. My goodness for $200 u can’t go wrong with an automatic seiko. And for the Rolex, awesome timepiece that it’s out of my budget. 👍🏽

This is a fantastic review thank you. Since I cannot afford that Rolex Hulk, I am now buying the Green Seiko.

@calindor19

4 ай бұрын

or buy a tudor

Where c can I buy that green seiko for $200?

Bruce what stood out for me in this comparison is the brand names on the dials. One is applied and the other is painted. We tend to think that when something is applied, like the brand name, it is luxurious. What are your thoughts on this? Cheers.

I have this Seiko, my second mechanical watch and I am very pleased with it. The strap was swapped out immediately though, with a nice Ritchie caramel leather band. I am however feeling the itch to get something even more premium, I visited the Rolex shop in Santa Monica and the lady there was very welcoming and friendly and gave me several books to take home! I may not have been dressed in a suit and tie, but she treated me respectfully and offered me some water, kudos to the Rolex brand if they actively train their personnel to serve as ambassadors, I am happy to add one as my next piece (though I am also considering Tudor...)

Where is a good site to buy the Seiko?

More impressive to see Seiko keeping up with quality and trends

Nice comparison, thanks Bruce. Lume on your Subdate to me is PERFECT. Beautiful blue. It seems blue and green lume are popular these days, but all blue.... just does it for me.

The Seiko rubber band looks very good.

Good morning Bruce. Great video! I thought you did a fair assessment of both watches. I own 4 watches by Rolex and 1 by Seiko. I love all my watches and wear them all proudly. I am not a fan of the Super Case. I was very happy to see Rolex slim the lugs as they had previously with the GMT Master II line. Like you, I have tried on the new Subs and they are great! I’m on the list for that model as well. Keep the videos coming. Cheers,

I have the same seiko. I put a strapcode bracelet on it and is now a great watch for the $300 total I spent on it.

I honestly thought you sold the Hulk to help pay for the Vacheron. Glad to see you still have this👍🏾 would you consider another video like this but with seagull 1963 vs omega speedmaster or any high end chrono?

Love Seiko Sports 5 and prospex range 😍...

What’s the strap brand?

Maybe the green sumo would've been a better comparison but still this was a fun video.

I own a couple of Rolex submarines, 5513 and a 116610LN as well as a Glashutte 1-39-11-06-80-06. Although the movement on the Glashutte is more complex, I've never thought that the finishing , bracelet, or comfort scored above my subs . That being said , I also own a few Seiko's , my favorite that I still occasionally wear is my trusty SKX007J1. Absolutely love that watch and it has a lot of sentimental value as well . Beauty is really is in the eye of the beholder.

@calindor19

4 ай бұрын

or other wear more the rolex if you live in a coutry taht people think you wear a fake and only you know that is original XD i got both in the end i sold cheap my seiko and wear my rolex

Great video. Why did you rate the Value category of the Sub 10/10?

At retail I would buy the Rolex gladly, even though I think it's already too expensive for what it is, but with Rolex sportsts SS it's a seller's market. At 20K you can have beautiful, hand crafted pieces of art from the holy trinity or exceptional brands like ALS or Breguet so no, at that price a Rolex is totally not worth it no matter how hot.

@Jay-xr3sb

3 жыл бұрын

Some people just want the name and the hype. I would prefer the top 3 even if they went unnoticed by Joe public. The rolex market has been manipulated by rolex supply and flippers. Only worth it at retail because the price was always well supported.

I don't know why but when I saw your Hulk I was relieved. I was afraid you sold it for the VC.

I got myself the same exact Seiko but with a black dial so it didn't look like I was reaching.. :D

It would have been really interesting to have a score for "value for the money" that in my opinion would be way under 8 for the sub. I love Rolex but their watches should be priced as Omega's +/- 10% to be fair. Very interesting and surprising comparison here. Good job.

@kyleblandon2250

7 ай бұрын

A quickie would be to say that the Seiko with a score of 76 and costing around $250 would have a “value for money score at $3/point where the Rolex would be about $217/point…Seiko wins hands down lol

What about a Grand Seiko SBGA231 vs Rolex Submariner? That would be interesting.

@calindor19

4 ай бұрын

sorry but isnt the same got the change to buy GS and still love my rolex or buy another tudor

Should do a comparison of green watches Bruce. Got the seiko , the oris , the rado, the Willard, and the rolex, could make a great vid out of just those ?

Great video and commentary Bruce. I didn’t understand the hype around Rolex until I picked one up myself. Once I got one, I was smitten by it. All prestige and brand perception aside, they are seriously well made watches. Incredible build quality, classic and timeless design, unmatched durability and versatility, bang on accuracy, great brand heritage and history, and some of the most comfortable watches I’ve ever worn. I know that the brand gets a lot of flack from watch fans/snobs, but I would say don’t be so quick to turn your nose up at this brand and pass judgement until you own a Rolex and see it and enjoy it for the objectively quality watch that it is.

@ViolinistWilliam

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with every word of this. Rolex haters largely haven't tried it. The steel is phenomenal & has a warmth to it.

@aleksandarvujanic7914

Жыл бұрын

Still we come to that point that this watch still is not worth almost 20000 euros. Of corse it is high quality, but you are paying brand first of all then quality. Dont tell me that it is worth 100 Seiko SRPDs , maybe 15 or 20. I know that you can sell it much more after some years, but this is just because bussines has its own percepcion and view. So what? He is made by Zeus or Thors hammer? I once tries Rolex Oyster and quality of watch is amazing far from cheap watches, but not that much as marketing claims.

This Seiko Hulk with Seiko's Jubilee bracelet is a amazing match.

Aesthetically speaking....the skx is every bit as classic and beautiful on wrist as the submariner...of course the internals and final touches on the details put them in different price brackets

I could listen to that Sub bezel all day, Bruce!

Bruce, it kind of reminds me of March madness. By nature I go for the under dog. Go Seiko....

why no accuracy numbers on the seiko ? how many sec does it lose per day?

@BruceWilliams

3 жыл бұрын

a lot

@therealkiasu

3 жыл бұрын

Buying Seiko watches is like lucky draw. For the same watch, some of them can be only losing 5 seconds a day while some can lose 90 seconds a day. This problem kinda bugs me as I'm always the unlucky one.

@tantu2395

3 жыл бұрын

@@therealkiasu exactly. 😂

You should compare the Hulk with a Grand Seiko.

Which seiko watch would you recommend, that its quality reaches near the rolex?

@calindor19

4 ай бұрын

none XD or get a tudor

Just ordered the Seiko cant wait to get it

@Canada-gs3jc

Жыл бұрын

I’ve had it for a week and I love it. Gorgeous detail, buy it, you won’t regret it.

I personally have a seiko SPB083J1, and I find the thousand dollar mark to be a more respectable comparison to something as good as the Rolex. Skx money really doesn't get you that far (in terms of luxury/quality at least). Not only are the dial/bezel significantly better looking / functioning, the indices much more pronounced, the case shape and polishing is absolutely magnificent, and the bracelet of a much higher quality with a scratch resistant coating. You sacrifice on the movement, with a 'puny' 6R it doesn't satisfy the eyes as much as a Rolex with 8t/s or a high beat GS 10t/s movement, but it's very reliable and loses very little time in a week (ime). You pay 4 times what you pay for an skx but you get 4 times the watch in graspable value and quality in return. I've also had the lower spectrum of seiko's, an skx, a presage SARY057, and a black samurai. But the mm200 hits the sweet spot for me between affordability and quality. That sweet spot is different for every individual, but it's an enjoyable journey that leads to a very satisfactory outcome most of the time. I probably love my watch (nearly) as much as you love your hulk, everytime I glance at it, it gives me great pleasure.

Love your submariner bro, youve kept it in good shape ..

This comparison makes absolutely zero sense. There is no comparison simply because it’s two different classes of watches. Two different worlds.

My only issue with this specific color of Seiko is that the hands, logo, and writings are gold, while the rest of the watch is silver. Aesthetically, it would look better if there were some gold accents on the watch body and strap to create a more cohesive design.

Kinda off topic, but it did make me wonder if anyone actually payed $20.000 for a Hulk? There were some asking $30.000 for them, but it's not because they ask that price, that someone is willing to pay it. On Ebay for example you can see the past sales and most were around $15.000. And on chrono24 you can find them quite easily at $16.000. They are being offered quite regularly at $15.000 and even below, but those don't stay online very long...

Quartz, automatic chronograph (arguably) , Springdrive, and recently a constant force tourbillon. Seiko has GS, and dont forget Credor. They cater for all price points. Anyway the submariner does look brilliant though , but not 100 times more brilliant. I wish they could be a bit more reasonable though.

Nice video. I can definitely put a trigger for Rolex at a retail price but there are better watches for this price point IMO. And what about Seiko? Mighty SEIKO.

I own both Rolex & Seiko watches. Enjoy both & both are great at retail or below. I would never pay $20K for a $10K watch.

Misleading to put the "market price" of the Rolex on the title. It should be retail price for both watches instead. If the tables have turned and the Seiko has a long wait list, demand and hype for it, while Rolex becomes a "Tag Heuer" where it loses 40% of the value once you leave the shop, will the title be "$1000 watch vs $5000 watch"?

Do a $200 Vs $2000 and a $2000 Vs $20000 and compare the difference. How much does the 17 point gap diminish at the mid level of 2k and is it worth the price difference?

@jonasjung256

Жыл бұрын

The law is diminishing returns…

Great comparison… your green Rolex is absolutely stunning in the sun. I have a 1986 Bluesy sub two tone I’ve had since new and plan to pass on. Can’t believe the prices now and I think you have to ask yourself is the submariner worth 100x the Seiko price. I just bought one and absolutely love it, but it doesn’t feel or look as good as my Rolex. You are correct to say you feel like you’re getting away with something just paying $200!

@stevepick9527

Жыл бұрын

PS- The lume on this Seiko is absolutely fantastic. I put it right up there with the Rolex.

I just can't get excited about Rolex design, which is probably a good thing given that I'm flat broke. Seriously though, the Seiko is a more striking design.

Rolex Hulk for my money. Although the Seiko would make a great beater.

Future video idea: battle of the sub-$1000 divers. Can you make this happen Bruce? My suggested contenders would be: - Doxa Sub 200 - Seiko Prospex SPB143 - Mido Ocean Star Tribute - Longines Hydroconquest - Yema Superman Heritage - Baltic Aquascaphe - Hamilton Khaki Navy Scuba

@BruceWilliams

3 жыл бұрын

I would love do do some sub 1k battles. Let me see what I can do

@DutchBulldog

3 жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliams I’m seriously considering the Doxa, the Baltic and the Yema. Would be nice to see how they stack up to each other.

Clearly the Seiko is superior in every way with the exception of value retention and Mojo power.

Just got my seiko 5 sport its really nice worth it. of course a rolex is a goal but for now seiko will do.

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They seem to both tell time for me

My question is why did you choose the new Seiko 5 sport? Is it because you thought it was pretty? It doesn't have a screw down crown. How does that even compare to the rolex? Did you just pick that model because it "looks" the classiest? I'm very confused. Any light you could shed on this would be great. I am a huge Seiko fan by the way.

One underrated thing about seiko. Diashield, my marine master 200. It’s really doing way better not showing scratches compared to my other watches

@hammalamiri12

3 жыл бұрын

Agree, took of my spb149 at the airport recently into tray ontop my jacket, throw my jacket on only to realise my watch goes flying and smashes the hard floor pick it up without a scratch or knock.

In the past I loved Rolex but as the time passes, I realiced that Rolex is suffering a lot from replicas and the people are getting tired. The Seiko does not need to be replicated, so it´s more value to me personally considering the price.

So basically they both say the time and they both have a green dial. End of video. Lots of ignorants in the comments section Bruce, lots of ignorants... good for the views. Ps. Tomorrow you can do Toyota Yaris vs BMW 840. Spoiler alert: they both have 4 wheels and they both carry people...

@jasonshone1510

3 жыл бұрын

I think what Bruce was saying is that Seiko does a good job for the money

@BruceWilliams

3 жыл бұрын

K lend me your Yaris and BMW I'll make it happen

@eldiabolico3750

3 жыл бұрын

@@BruceWilliams you will have to find the Yaris yourself Bruce...

Remember its not Always about Europe Plus great video

Put a Mako/Ray 2 instead of 5kx, best way to compare. Better options there.

I think the truth is that at a certain point, it goes from paying for quality from the brand to paying for the brand's quality. The seiko is at a level that you generally pay more for the quality you want. The rolex is at a level that you pay for the brand, knowing that the quality will be up there with the price.

Like your vid, but isn't that a Seiko 5, not really a Seiko?

No money vs new money

I just bought the Seiko and returned it after just one day. The easily and inadvertent turning of the poorly designed bezel is a deal breaker. The poor bezel turns very easily and messes up my GMT settings. Back to the drawing board for Seiko.

Dude, what's with the Axios commercials? They're killing me.

4:40 crystal execution 8? i dont agree. I have a 50 dollar casio with the same mineral crystal.

But do they tell the time?

Madness you know Seiko make super watches Spring Drive movement and High beat movement with 80 hours power reserve

Seiko, just as good at a fraction of the price. They always retain value and you don't have to worry about having someone wanting to snatch it from you.