200+HP Gain… Just By Swapping Ignition?? Non Boosted BBC on Pump Gas

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  • @shawnfetter8226
    @shawnfetter82266 ай бұрын

    You’re very welcome Steve and glad you like the engine stand. Hopefully it makes working on those big SMX’s a little more enjoyable 👊🏻 Merry Christmas and thanks for the shout out! Thank you for all the content, tips and tricks you give all of us unfiltered which helps us all learn a little more than we knew before. Looking forward to making the SMX setup I have run with you big boys soon!

  • @user-on6vv2qn2d

    @user-on6vv2qn2d

    6 ай бұрын

    You are a good person

  • @budgina
    @budgina6 ай бұрын

    Steve, Watching the interaction between you and your son is worth a million bucks! The boy is really growing up in front of our eyes. Your family unit is the most important thing in life. Love your videos! Thank you!

  • @paulmartin8212
    @paulmartin82126 ай бұрын

    Kile, please be careful with those loose strings on your hoodie around belts. Accidents can happen so quick. Nobody wants to get hurt around doing what they love.

  • @JoshStLouis314

    @JoshStLouis314

    6 ай бұрын

    I'm for tucked in, always. 90% of the time, they get in your way when leaning over anyway.

  • @jasonsweeten2851

    @jasonsweeten2851

    6 ай бұрын

    I got my long hair caught in fan belt of running car once woke up with a bald spot bloody nose and concussion and no idea what just happened to me

  • @BSquaredmotors

    @BSquaredmotors

    6 ай бұрын

    I have hoodies I just take the string out of, I had a hoodie string get stuck in a jig saw and it was very scary and that was a jig saw. Imagine like a lathe or circ saw. You’re in some trouble I can assure you

  • @russellridge8623

    @russellridge8623

    6 ай бұрын

    Had that happen with shop apron. Using free standing grinder polishing side. Big wire wheel. Grabbed apron strings tied in front. Managed to lock my arms straight and it proceeded to rip that heavy denim apron and part of my shirt right off. Had a few bruises but nothing bad. Guys all had great laugh and nicknames once they saw I was not hurt.

  • @JoshStLouis314

    @JoshStLouis314

    6 ай бұрын

    @@russellridge8623 and that's why you tie under the apron when front-tieing

  • @cembellsteve
    @cembellsteve6 ай бұрын

    That's right Steve, TEACH him. Don't give him all the answers. Make him figure it out. Like I said before, you have to love working with your son. What a great combo. Got to keep the Morris name going Crap that's what i was going to get you this year. A engine stand. I could send you some hot muggy air from Louisianan So what have you thought about doing or making with the extra parts from the CNC mill? Rails and a ball screw.

  • @irdmoose
    @irdmoose6 ай бұрын

    I know why Dewey didn't like the dog box. He clearly prefers synchros!

  • @flinch622

    @flinch622

    6 ай бұрын

    He didn't want to miss Nate saying "don't tase me bro!"

  • @adamtheninjasmith2985

    @adamtheninjasmith2985

    6 ай бұрын

    Nice play! 😂👍

  • @b.c4066
    @b.c40666 ай бұрын

    Pretty strong endorsement for a crank trigger and coil near plug setup.

  • @daverupes7022
    @daverupes70226 ай бұрын

    Sean is the man! Wow that's a sweet gift even approved by Steve and Kyle Morris

  • @danielsmith-ze3wy
    @danielsmith-ze3wy6 ай бұрын

    I bet that monster sounds good in person

  • @br549rdr
    @br549rdr6 ай бұрын

    Shawn,Sean your the man💪💪💪Very nice of you to get that stand for them. 😇😇🙏🏻

  • @Mike44460
    @Mike444606 ай бұрын

    Kile, @ 5:13, the piece you are holding is the key. The machined place it fits into is the keyway.

  • @riccocool
    @riccocool6 ай бұрын

    Man has Kyle come a long way in a year. Keep up the great work.

  • @bb7549

    @bb7549

    6 ай бұрын

    TOTALLY agree, he is really getting to be quite presence working through the dyno sessions.

  • @dertmatyui

    @dertmatyui

    5 ай бұрын

    I love Kyle. His genuine curiosity is awesome, asking what difference in the camshaft would do 8500 rpm, etc. takes some questions right out of my mouth

  • @TheOfficial_InsaneStang
    @TheOfficial_InsaneStang6 ай бұрын

    Tim Taylor would be proud sir!!!!

  • @136092195
    @1360921956 ай бұрын

    Best Tech and videos yet Thank you Steve and Kyle And Merry Christmas from the crazy old man in the Yucatan

  • @sbcbuilder4279
    @sbcbuilder42796 ай бұрын

    says: "No blanket, no bones, nothing to chew on." That is why I didn't go in there dad.

  • @vehdynam
    @vehdynam6 ай бұрын

    Great update with interesting tech as well.Nice to see the great interaction you and Kyle have. Keep moving forward.

  • @mikebates7234
    @mikebates72346 ай бұрын

    Way to go Sean ! I was just going to wish Steve and all at SME a merry and safe Christmas! You topped me!!

  • @Sig8690
    @Sig86906 ай бұрын

    Good job on the video Kyle. Your best job of explaining things and overall comments. You looked very comfortable in front of the camera.

  • @briananderson5284
    @briananderson52846 ай бұрын

    WOW Awesome, Thanks Professor Morris Jr for the awesome lesson this is the best Engine Channel hand's down !!!! Keep up the Amazing Work!!!!!

  • @mikecabral1579
    @mikecabral15795 ай бұрын

    Brought back memories of when my Dad was teaching me things A different industry but the same concept. Critical thinking with good results proves that you have a good understanding of the subject matter.

  • @badhombre8383
    @badhombre83836 ай бұрын

    Shoutout to whoever sent Steve the engine stand 👊👊

  • @sineater1572
    @sineater15726 ай бұрын

    Right on Shawn/Sean...Merry Christmas

  • @davidthompson245
    @davidthompson2456 ай бұрын

    Nice gift John!. Kudos to you brother.

  • @justinfargas2367
    @justinfargas23676 ай бұрын

    It's really great seeing Kyle grow in confidence so much each time in front of the camera. Great video chaps. Hope to see you in Australia one day.

  • @michaelloth5870
    @michaelloth58706 ай бұрын

    Kyle, Congratulations on that monster engine tune. I was impressed with your call to change the ignition out. Yes that is a big cam and thanks for sharing some of the specs!!!

  • @WhyDidYouTurn
    @WhyDidYouTurn6 ай бұрын

    i work for CH Hanson in Naperville Illinois, Really a great company, they sell a lot of really nice vices clamps, saw, grinders and industrial equipment for welders like myself. I hope our products do an excellent job for you. George Gibson our product manager does a great job providing spare parts and accessories for anything you'll need Steve. Godspeed, Ryan Amador

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs19816 ай бұрын

    Great video guys glad you didn’t get sick after the show several people I know that went are sick since then thanks for sharing

  • @greggkiest1069
    @greggkiest10696 ай бұрын

    Your work is always on point. Enjoyed more time with Kyle. So much like dad.

  • @Skibumsplace
    @Skibumsplace6 ай бұрын

    Well done young Morris! You're a natural.

  • @BenjySparky
    @BenjySparky6 ай бұрын

    Steve and Kyle, y'all rock! Deweys doing Dewey, I see. Got to love that engine stand. Peace

  • @WyFoster
    @WyFoster6 ай бұрын

    7:50 Classic dad stuff. He's got it Steve! My dad was exactly the same way and look how I turned out 😁

  • @markgerrard1892
    @markgerrard18926 ай бұрын

    Steve, FWIW, Beta is one of the biggest pro tool manufactures in Europe and elsewhere in the world. They have a very rich motorsports heritage and have been in the tool business for decades. Quite a few F1 teams use their stuff and their yearly, beefy catalog is very drool-worthy. About 20 years ago I worked for a friend that tried to introduce Beta to the US market (we were based out of Denver) but the domestic brands were too entrenched and had too many mechanics in their debt to switch even through Beta was superior (IMHO).

  • @marcusambrester
    @marcusambrester6 ай бұрын

    Great job, Kyle!

  • @1320pass
    @1320pass6 ай бұрын

    Mountain Motor. In a rusty old whatever.. I like it!

  • @StewMac570
    @StewMac5706 ай бұрын

    Sorry Steve, I didn’t quite understand your explanation of the coil and taser. Could you please do live demonstration on Nate so we all get a better understanding of the differences?

  • @picklesontheroad
    @picklesontheroad6 ай бұрын

    Years ago, I built an old Harley Shovelhead engine. Bored, decked, balanced, ported and installed a ported and polished CV carb. I was expecting around 100 HP. After fire up and break in, it felt stock! After a bunch of playing around with timing the cam and ignition, jetting and a few valve adjustments, I figured to dual plug the heads. It ran really good when it was running rich. Installed the dual plugs, and the matching ignition, DAMNED THING LEAPED TO LIFE! We fairly easily hit our 100HP goal. Sometimes all it takes is the right ignition to bring a build together. Old tech sometimes needs a little bit of help to bring it to life.

  • @Ron_Masterjohn

    @Ron_Masterjohn

    6 ай бұрын

    Was that with a points ignition or electronic?

  • @picklesontheroad

    @picklesontheroad

    6 ай бұрын

    @@Ron_Masterjohn That was with points and dual coils to start with, I tried a hallcell electronic ignition but didn't like how hard it was to start and went back to the points.

  • @Ron_Masterjohn

    @Ron_Masterjohn

    6 ай бұрын

    @@picklesontheroad interesting thanks,

  • @scottholbert2742
    @scottholbert27426 ай бұрын

    Great job Kyle, and as always you to Steve

  • @samuelsmith1642
    @samuelsmith16425 ай бұрын

    I love the puppy Q.C.. He's making sure everything is copacetic lol

  • @liamterry5301
    @liamterry53016 ай бұрын

    Awesome job Kyle!!!! You did awesome on that to figure that. And it make 200+ more HP!!!! 💪🥵🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @jayceecombs6887
    @jayceecombs68876 ай бұрын

    And there's "Dewey" look'n for something "CHEWY!" GIT ON IT BOY! THANK YOU, J

  • @russellridge8623
    @russellridge86236 ай бұрын

    Kyle needs one of those in his Mustang. Help keep front end down. 😂. Merry Christmas all Steve & Co.

  • @710performance
    @710performance6 ай бұрын

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @kilgorefamily76
    @kilgorefamily766 ай бұрын

    You have to be really proud Steve, Kyle is becoming quite the tech and looking way more relaxed on camera.

  • @michaelnoyes4817
    @michaelnoyes48176 ай бұрын

    Merry Christmas to you and your family mate

  • @jamesf2656
    @jamesf26566 ай бұрын

    Wow! What a gift, very kind

  • @Kraken270Jetsprint
    @Kraken270Jetsprint6 ай бұрын

    Like the editing steve .esp in video reminders upcoming videos

  • @johnnystanley4469
    @johnnystanley44696 ай бұрын

    Wow that is a big big difference.

  • @joep1253
    @joep12536 ай бұрын

    Great job Kyle, thinking outside the box

  • @JeepnJ89
    @JeepnJ896 ай бұрын

    Good job man, those numbers N/A blow my mind.

  • @STARSHIPTROOP
    @STARSHIPTROOP6 ай бұрын

    My step-dad taught me how to read plugs back in 79 at 11yrs old, then built my 1st 2.0l Ford w/ dual Webber carbs that revved to 8500 rpm. screamer. We won our class championship on my 1st built engine.

  • @derx6666
    @derx66666 ай бұрын

    Love how Steve makes Kyle think for himself instead of just giving him the answers. Also you might've lost (or not made) money on this dyno session, but you gained quite a bit of new knowledge in the meantime. Crazy to see the massive difference between the MSD box and the smartcoils. Great video guys.

  • @jsmcortina

    @jsmcortina

    6 ай бұрын

    The IGN1A coils are inductive vs. capacitive discharge. As Steve said, the inductive spark last a lot longer (typically 1ms). You also lose spark energy through the dizzy - was this one phased correctly? As far as I'm aware, the primary reason people went to CDI was in the days of distributors when a single inductive coil didn't have enough time to charge at high revs. With the availability of multi-coil systems, no need to waste spark energy in a dizzy.

  • @67stang65
    @67stang656 ай бұрын

    I really like how you buy the tool for the need and what’s it’s designed to do and not for the name and price. I’m the exact same way..I’m only going to use a tool maybe once or twice a month or even a year I have no problem buying a lot less expensive tool..but if it’s a everyday use tool I’ll spend the money on name brand

  • @user-bc9sz1dj1g
    @user-bc9sz1dj1g6 ай бұрын

    Hey Steve, Tim here, theres more there, the ignition is still ur achilles heal....but u got SIGNIFICANT power........i wish the torque curve was better tho....a nice flat one shows volumetric efficiency......when it dies down quickly, we still got an issue, fundamental NA........i know ur a boosted dude, a bit more attention, that 800, some odd cube monster, COULD muster a better torque curve......make it more usable, NOT just peak #.......just a thought

  • @zachgertken4077
    @zachgertken40776 ай бұрын

    Love the videos keep up the good work!!

  • @jaygullion8013
    @jaygullion80136 ай бұрын

    Your gonna love that saw when fabricating stuff! My dad had one we did everything from roll bar tubing to small pencil tubing to making bushings! Looks cumbersome but it's not its very versatile especially if you put wheels on it lol

  • @johnnystanley4469
    @johnnystanley44696 ай бұрын

    Nice work Kyle

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers6 ай бұрын

    Great as always. This huge engine reminds me of Sonny's engines. On a different fuel how much more power would it make? 10% more on E85? 15% more on Methanol?

  • @michaelwiddifield920
    @michaelwiddifield9206 ай бұрын

    I just love the way Steve is like you know it's only 1200 horsepower it's not like you're going to be pulling the shoots I mean you're talking about an engine you're going to drive on the street you can put pump gas in it and you got 1253 horsepower right there under your foot anytime you want like Steve talks about like no problem

  • @superheatsubcool
    @superheatsubcool6 ай бұрын

    It's great watching your son become a Bad Ass, from father to son.

  • @JohnRoberts71
    @JohnRoberts716 ай бұрын

    Great content thanks for sharing

  • @bradduranso534
    @bradduranso5345 ай бұрын

    Steve: “Kyle’s going to show you guys how to read a spark plug.” (next scene) Kyle: “yep spark plug looks good…” ✍🏼👂🏼👀

  • @eddieparis6739
    @eddieparis67396 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the video

  • @flyonbyya
    @flyonbyya6 ай бұрын

    An easy 1200 hp @ 6500 with Conservative tune on 93….The beauty of a mountain motor!

  • @whyamihereg
    @whyamihereg6 ай бұрын

    Nice job Kyle.

  • @michaelgallopo5879
    @michaelgallopo58796 ай бұрын

    Interesting video on that engine keep living the dream ✨️

  • @user-nv5vx5sh8b
    @user-nv5vx5sh8b6 ай бұрын

    A 2" spacer under the throttle plates may slow the torque drop at RPM. Plenum (room to breath)

  • @letsgo8941
    @letsgo89416 ай бұрын

    Nothing against a multi coil system but I believe something was wrong with the MSD box.

  • @MrR6guy

    @MrR6guy

    6 ай бұрын

    agreed!

  • @Ron_Masterjohn

    @Ron_Masterjohn

    6 ай бұрын

    Typical and why I’m not to excited about using MSD

  • @isaacrishel636
    @isaacrishel6366 ай бұрын

    The intake needs more volume the throttle plates are to close to the runners

  • @hankclingingsmith8707

    @hankclingingsmith8707

    6 ай бұрын

    It a street motor

  • @finnroen2334
    @finnroen23346 ай бұрын

    I have a question. This is a big NA engine, but in runs on 93 octane pump gas and has a 115 LSA camshaft, not usually known for making peak torque numbers. 1253 lb/ft divided by 843 CID is 1.486 lb/ft/CID. Is this not way beyond a suspiciously good result? I mean, "Some say" that that just the top 10% of engine builders manages 1.35 and only the top 1% achieves 1.40.

  • @bayoumike544
    @bayoumike5446 ай бұрын

    I like when the caution screen comes up. I know its going to be good! Not that anything is bad.

  • @tinycarnahan1707
    @tinycarnahan17076 ай бұрын

    Um ok holy sh#$. I been whiching all steve videos and some others. On set ups and tuning. And it just now scares me. Because I almost kinda understand what they are talking about and understand the conversation. Holy sh#$ I think I am learning something 😢😢😢😮😮😂

  • @recoilrob324
    @recoilrob3246 ай бұрын

    It's nice to have a power fall off a little so when you shift you're rocking the rpm over the peak...very nice! Shift that big motor about 6500 and it'll do great. And with over 5" stroke I don't think you'd want to rev any harder just for longevity reasons. That motor is going to turn the car anything but loose!

  • @dirtydeedzmainecultavator68
    @dirtydeedzmainecultavator686 ай бұрын

    great video👍✌️

  • @Frank289100
    @Frank2891006 ай бұрын

    KYLE, NICE BIG CUBE FORD CLEVELAND STYLE ENGINE YOU HAVE THERE.

  • @11ride4life
    @11ride4life5 ай бұрын

    I wish I had a father like you, he is a lucky kid!

  • @troyadams1076
    @troyadams10766 ай бұрын

    Got to be proud of that son 👏

  • @jasonstormoen
    @jasonstormoen6 ай бұрын

    Them Kelly Green 🟢 Spark Plug Holders, Are You Telling Everyone ND 🏈Go Irish? That was a good tune for pump gas, and a nice burn on the spark plug.

  • @Fl3uv3
    @Fl3uv36 ай бұрын

    Nice Optimisation! Fall off curve gone.

  • @fredericrike5974
    @fredericrike59746 ай бұрын

    Kyle, as a thought, try thinking and speaking of your service purchasers as clients rather than customers. Everybody goes to 7-11 and "the biggest dang coffee shop franchise in the entire world" and gets ripped off- because they are customers, people who dropped by and whos pocket may not drive this way tomorrow. Now, down at Miss Salley's Breakfast Salon, you get service that know your name, is your coffee black or with cream; there you are a "client", someone they hope for a continuing business relation with. You seem to have the feel of it well in hand, I just thought it might give you a different insight. Btw, I learned that difference from a car dealer named Carl Sewell, a Cadillac peddler, one of the very best.

  • @Kosmonooit
    @Kosmonooit6 ай бұрын

    Nice ... new tool day is always a good day! You should hook up with Fireball Tool for one of his fab tables, he has got it sussed and some nice products. Also features in Aboms new workshop

  • @GoatPilot04
    @GoatPilot046 ай бұрын

    Hey SM team, don't be scared to post a full length, unedited video. Or at least a longer format one that shows even the preliminary pulls and tuning.

  • @davidreed6070
    @davidreed60706 ай бұрын

    Good video Kile.

  • @robertbruno2863
    @robertbruno28636 ай бұрын

    Cool video, quick question. What is the white light switch for??

  • @petesmith8000
    @petesmith80006 ай бұрын

    Steve - take a look at a Fireball Vice... lol

  • @plnthrd
    @plnthrd6 ай бұрын

    decades ago I got fed up with MSD ignition and my buddy that ran a Pro Mod convinced me to change my stuff to Mallory....I did and gained .05 and 3 MPH!

  • @jestablitz3804
    @jestablitz38046 ай бұрын

    Pure real street racer. Buy that i mean Aussie street lol. That thing be a weapon at the lights ;)

  • @snocrushr
    @snocrushr6 ай бұрын

    Why do people keep calling KEYS, key ways. It's like calling a fence post a post hole. 😒

  • @stevendimmig3257
    @stevendimmig32576 ай бұрын

    By chance did you point timing light the msd crank sensor. If the polarity is backwards it will run like crap at high rpm but ok at low rpm

  • @Physhi
    @Physhi6 ай бұрын

    Sometimes the engineer learns something new from time to time!

  • @tfriesen3866
    @tfriesen38666 ай бұрын

    17:10 Kyle that cam sounds like a baby cam.

  • @chrisrogers5644
    @chrisrogers56446 ай бұрын

    my opinion is this unit was built to have a torque peak at an rpm closer to idle with a broad curve and lower peak hp. like a truck application. or jet boat etc...the curve on the screen was strong indicator but when kyle mentioned 115 degree lobe seperation angle it drove it home to me. Engine like a nascar application has a much lower numerical angle like 108 or lower. picture that air and fuel has mass, when its swirling suspended in the intake plenum, runner and port it has weight. and a lower angle aids proper cylinder filling at high rpm above 8k where a nascar engine operates, aiding cylinder filling. lobe seperation angle is a very little known aspect of cam design. but has as much to do with engine performance characteristics as lift or duration.

  • @Trent28888
    @Trent288886 ай бұрын

    It comes down to the coil output current,say if u have a coil that puts out 40KV @ 100ma u wont get much of a arc and it will be ALOT colder than say 40KV @ 1A so what it means is the lower current output ignition has a weak spark which is how the spark gets blown out,creates miss fires,low HP

  • @jasonm3109
    @jasonm31096 ай бұрын

    Does adding the magnet to the cam pulley cause any imbalance issues?

  • @thomasward4505
    @thomasward45056 ай бұрын

    How would you know when your ignition system needs to be upgraded? Or do you think that MSD system had something wrong with it?

  • @flinch622
    @flinch6226 ай бұрын

    Odd... its like the msd box just lost its advance or something. Noise [like a lost filter capacitor]? What do they revert to on apparent trigger loss?

  • @user-on6vv2qn2d
    @user-on6vv2qn2d6 ай бұрын

    That’s a cool engine stand

  • @miceinoz1181
    @miceinoz11816 ай бұрын

    I often wonder about the spark efficiency at high RPM related to combustion pressure. Maybe the spark voltage is higher and cleaner with your setup? The low ends look the same in both configurations, but that top end is so much better.

  • @gordowg1wg145

    @gordowg1wg145

    5 ай бұрын

    One ot the theories is that a longer spark, or multiple spark CDI systems, is that with a single short spark the combustion starts at the spark and then the burn front progresses from that point as it's carried through the turbulent fuel/air mix, which may not be homogenised (the same everywhere), so some parts burn better and faster than others that don't quite have the right mix yet. With a longer spark, the fuel is getting ignited for longer at that point, and so the flame front is "elongated" (stretched out) and this burns the fuel faster and, as it's carried around inside the cylinder, finds more of the unburned fuel and oxygen to burn that too. One of the things that has been pretty universally reported is that less ignition timing is required. Oh, the biggest improvements are reported on BIG engines, that usually need more time to burn the fuel, and engines that have poor cylinder head designs for turbulence, like Hemi's and other open chamber heads - or both! With these, it's believed there can be times when a very poor mixture may be present around the spark, and this can drastically slow, even prevent, ignition from occuring. That poor ignition characteristic is why Chrysler developed the twin-plug heads for drag racing, and that are now found on their street engines, elbeit more for emissions with the latter..

  • @DaleTerry
    @DaleTerry5 ай бұрын

    That 115 lobe separation must make great cylinder pressure. Low lift air.

  • @garytull7730
    @garytull77302 ай бұрын

    Hmmm, so one bank of that 843 inch monster is about as big as my 427 street motor.....whoa.....

  • @AMac1978
    @AMac19786 ай бұрын

    Are you using the pro 600 box as well?

  • @vinmandich7756
    @vinmandich77566 ай бұрын

    Palmgren is the real deal vice good stuff

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