I remember over a decade ago my late friend, Thomas designing the masters for the 1701-A. It was so frustrating for him to design the mounting points for the pylons to the secondary hull, but I think he did a masterful job. I have a pile of kits of this ship, waiting to be built as the original and refit and plenty of aftermarket add-ons to go with it. Truly a gorgeous design. Thomas passed away about seven years ago, and his contributions to modeling have made the hobby so much more enjoyable. He also did retooling on the Revell Voyager, masters construction on the NX-01, and designed decals for many kits-including providing a number of decals to Paramount to turn the Excelsior into a variety of other starships.

Totally agree about the Ent-D. I've seen people do amazing things with that old kit, but it still really deserves to be updated and done in a larger scale, and I'm holding out hope that R2 will eventually release that 1/1000 version they've hinted at.

Very cool collection and great work on each one.. Appreciate you sharing your thoughts and opinions on each one . And I absolutely agree with you down the line. Stay safe and keep building these wonderful kits. 👍

You really, REALLY, must be commended, just for the dedication that you put into 'illuminating' all of the models that you presented in your list!

You completely sold me on the Discovery Enterprise. I'm glad I stuck out the video. Thank you!

Great list! I appreciated the criteria you used to rank these kits.

I love this video great idea. Would love to see a work space tour as well, maybe tools and accessories you like would be really fun to see.

I haven't built the majority of the models on your list...But I agree with the ranking of the ones I have. My top three..the Galileo shuttle...great kit and wonderfully made...the K'tinga, which I spent a good two months on, bought the masking kit, all the paints I custom mixed to proper shades, and it turned out just beautiful. And I agree with the #1. I built this one also stock, with the aztec decals and lighting. Turned out just fantastic. But...I'm surprised you did not at least give an honorable mention to the original AMT TOS Enterprise kit. I have a couple of those, and have built several over the decades including the first production run of it in the 60's.

A very interesting watch. Thank you. I think though that you have missed a trick - my favourite Star Trek kit is the AMT 1/350 Klingon Bird of Prey. The kit is fairly basic, and not without it's faults BUT she's a great ship design, in a great scale and the funnest paint and weathering job you'll have with your trousers on.

The descriptions your giving these models are giving me member berries. I agree. Everything your saying went through my mind when building them as wel!l. Round two are making improvements which shows up the deficiencies even more. All I can say is thank god for green strawberry and pargrafix photoetch.

Upvote and comment just for the rant on the Enterprise D. I want a new 1/1000 or similar kit very much. Nice video.

Thanks! Nice to have the parallel commentary about both the build experience and the [possible] final result. Did the DS9 kit not make the list because yours isn't finished, or because it's ranked 24th? (Or worse?)

Nice video. Thanks for share you opinion and knowledge. LLAP

Interesting review of models. I do wonder why you weren't mentioning who the manufacturers were. Perhaps you could update the description with a list of the 20, including scale, manufacturer, etc. One kit you didn't mention, which I think should absolutely be listed here is from DeBoer Hulls. They have an Enterprise A which is, I believe, 1:250 scale (46" long) and is an absolute marvel of engineering. It's very pricey, and the builder will have to be resourceful to finish it off as it should be, but what they provide is as good as it gets.

some of these take me back, I did a few models when I was a kid. I'm not surprised that #1 is a 1701 of that size. When I first saw the SNW version I was thinking how I'd love a model of that.

We need a new modern update of the Enterprise D definitely, nice content 👌🏻

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done indeed and very nicely informatively explained in every way and detail provided and right to the point indeed, And also just to let you know the 1/2500 scale by Round2 of the Discovery Enterprise for what you can get for under $30. Dollars already comes with all the decals including the Aztec decals with in the kit it self. Unlike all the other kits were you have to purchase the Aztec decals separately at almost the same price as the kit itself depending on the scale...

Wow, that #3 looks freakin amazing!

very nice thank you, you didn't mention it but what are your thoughts on the amt 1/2500 7 enterprise pack , I like the idea of a similar top 20 of the star wars kits

You have done some great model builds, for sure! I enjoyed the video! I would like to get back into model building again - it has been MANY years! I think it would be greatly helpful to new or novice Trek builders if you would reference the maker of each of the model kits you reviewed. I saw some AMT boxes in there, and you mention Round 2, and the Aztec decal sets, but no mention of Polar Lights or any of the other ST model makers. With most of your picks, I have no idea who produced them! When I was a pup, I built an AMT original Enterprise, or maybe it was a Revelle, I'm not certain! Not too long ago, I acquired a prebuilt Diamond Select TOS Enterprise, which is a nice display piece, but I'm itching to build. In my youth, I was very proficient with autos and WWII aircraft and equipment. I think it would be a great service if you could write a note and pin it, outlining by your number scheme, each model's manufacturer, and maybe any pertinent info you deemed worthwhile to go with it. Thanks! LLAP!

That 1/350th Ktinga got me back into modeling! I'd spent so long as a teenager trying to figure out the 1701D and 1701A models with lighting and accuracy...it'd put me off for a long time.

How about making one of these videos about space 1999 and those models. I have a 1:72 scale model of an eagle and would love to know what lighting options there is for this ship before I commence to building it.

Totally agree that scale makes a huge difference. I wish 1/350 and 1/1000 were standards for ships of the line. Even 1.2500 would be good if ALL of the ships came in this scale.

@stevesstuff1450

Жыл бұрын

Well Take Two does have that boxset of all the earlier (than Discovery) Enterprise versions available for around £/$100, which includes comprehensive decals/transfers with aztec markings included, in 1.2500 scale....... 😉

I just randomly found this video searching for the romulan warbird model kit i once had and actually a new Enterprise 1701-D was just recently released in 2024.

Well done review, thank you. I've just got back into model construction again after way too many years. My first model this past Spring was the one you rated as #1. I did get the accessories kit. I'm surprised that you didn't include the 7 Enterprise set. Either the kit is not worthy of the review, or you had to cut it off somewhere, and 20 was the limit? I use AllScaleTrek as a guide when I go through my projects. Looking forward to the re-designed Enterprise-D model.

#6- "Scale matters"; well said!

So ive build alot of these the 1:537 enterprise (epoxy was used) was a pain to buils but its contemporary reliant wasn't. I love that they now have a 1:1000 scale like you said they will fit together. Im building the NX-01 refit 1:1000 followed by the 1701 with a botany bay but im going to kit bash thr botany bay to look like the one from startrek fleet command

Just bought 350 scale TOS, the 350 scale refit 949/04 and the 350 scale uss franklin. Gonna be busy a while. I need to know who makes best aztec kits for the refit and best lighting options for the 3

I've grown quite fond of the SNW Enterprise design but I am quite fond of the 1:350 scale kits. I would love to see the SNW design in that scale to go alongside the TOS and Refit/A versions just because I love going into that near "studio scale" project (I know true studio scale would be closer to 6 feet than the 2 and a half of the 1:350 kits)

Fascinating. 🖖 I wondered how you were going to rank these. And I agree with pretty much what you said. I, personally, am glad that the 1/530 Refit kit is available. It is not a great kit. It's, marginally, a good kit. But, it is a good median kit for those who do not have the room, or even skill, to build the 1/350 Refit kit. The 1/530 is large enough to light, and include interior details. It can fit on a shelf easier than the 1/350. And it doesn't cost $200 to get the basic model. Since Round 2 re-released the 1/530 we don't have to spend $200-500 for a mediocre kit in a large enough scale. As eBay was wrought to charge. 🙄 Yes, it *does* require a lot of work if you want to make it the perfect representation of the Enterprise. But even an average builder can still make that one look good. Perfect? perhaps not. Pretty? Sure. I want to get a couple of those kits in order to build one using the (crazy) etched panel lines to use with part of a Aztec decal job to show how nice they could be utilized together. Or how horribly they might look. I don't know. But, of course, I would be using aerosol filler primer on it first to get the etched panel lines a bit shallower, but not fully filled in/removed. I'm not worried about the inaccurate bridge and planetary sensor parts, as this build wouldn't be "The Enterprise". Just a Starfleet ship. Another build I want to do with the 1/530 is fill in the windows, and redrill (if I light it), or get 1/1000 refit window decals, and build the ship as the refit Enterprise from the Pike/Into Darkness/Discovery universe ship size craziness. I like the design of Pike's Enterprise. But I hate the size it is meant to represent. When you put the 1/2500, or 1/1000 Pike Enterpise next to Kirk's *updated* and improved ship, and Pike's is 2.5+ times larger?! That is freaking nuts. So a humor build I want to do is build the 1/530 Refit with minimal modifying, and call it the Refit Enterprise from Pike's universe. Again, I like the designs. I don't agree with the sizes they made of the ships. 😏 Great episode. Yeah, do aStar Wars one next. 👍

I also agree with the D. I'm currently working on one and I admit, it's a pain to put in accurate parts, and grind trenches to run wire to the warp engines. If Round 2 could invest money for all the accessories when they released the popular 1:350 TOS Enterprise, they can update the D with the technology they have now. Part of me now wants to wait until they do.

What version of Enterprise was number 4 again? Been looking to get a 1/350 Enterprise

i have no idea why Round 2 would re-issue the worst model kit of the Enterprise A ever produced, especially when you've released 2 of the best in recent years (the 1/350 version being absolutely amazing)...the 1/537 is a nightmare kit in many respects...

@f4lloutgaymer

Жыл бұрын

As awful as that 1/530 kit is (and it's pretty bad), I'm glad they re-released it. It does require a lot of work if you are going to make it screen accurate. It is definitely an Advanced+ Skill model. However, it does, still build into a fair representation of a Federation ship. It does require extra work to keep the pylons from breaking the strongback (ironyyyy. 😄). But, most importantly, it is a large enough ship to light and add interior details to, and able to display on a shelf, without breaking the bank. You can, finally, get the 1/530 for $50 instead of the eBay prices ranging from $200-1000 because it was out of production. I have the 1/350 Refit, and 1/350 TOS kits. But I have no place to display them. I hope to have space someday, as I *really* want to build and light them. But the 1/530 scale refit and TOS kit (the cutaway) can be lit, with interiors, and displayed on a shelf. I like that. So, again, the Refit is an awful kit, but a number of people make aftermarket parts to perfect it; if you build it as Enterprise. But, you can build it OOB as a Constitution/Enterprise-class variant, with some extra work. Not ideal. But I'm glad it's available and affordable. Cheers and Excellence to you. 🤘🎸😎🖖

Do you have links for the kit , lights, decals or your. Umber 1 pick

k-7 is for us who remember the kit from way back when and had fun.

With S3 of Picard coming out, not having a 1/1000 Enterprise D is a travesty and a lost opportunity if they aren’t doing one.

I hole heartedly agree with your #1.

The Kelvin series Enterprise is hideous.

I just completed my first Trek model, the 1/2500 Enterprise D and I have the 1/1000 Defiant lined up for the next project (so happy I won't have to do full body decaling this time!). Nice to see it here as one of the better kits, though I probably won't be lighting mine as this is something generally beyond my expertise in terms of modelmaking. I was considering the Revell Kelvin timeline Enterprise, because I actually love that ship (except the nacelles it is really one of the best versions of the Constitution class) but ultimately decided against it due to its size, it is just too large for me to justify. As an aside, I agree that the Enterprise D badly needs a new tool model up to current standards in anything between 1/1400 and 1/2500 scale. Hopefully, due to success of Picard season 3, this actually happens. As for my 1/2500 Enterprise D I'm reasoably proud of it, it is out of the box build and after 2 year long break from modelmaking. It also is the perfect size for me, as I prefer smaller kits. If you want to take a look, it is on my imgur page imgur.com/t/star_trek/qrZ7YEa

Is this a re-upload? I remember watching this video earlier today :) Edit: Duh, it was mentioned in the description. Sorry!

@OurayMountainModels

Жыл бұрын

Yes KZread ate the first one

i just got the USS DISCOVERY in 1/1400 scale , over 20" had it made from a company on ebay

Would/Will the DS9 be good enough to make the list when it's completed?🤔

With the 1701 D I got around the issue with nacelle wiring using alternator wire. Its really small and you can just remove a panel line and run it in its place and it come pre covered is really thin and can hold enough voltage for all the lighting in the nacelles. I never will dig a trench. lol.

@user-sq6hs1hz9u

2 ай бұрын

If you made the tops of the nacelles removable you could power the lights with batteries, in model railways you can now get lighting sets all ready to go (designed for coaches) that run off button batteries and are switched on and off with a magnet.

Nice video

I have heard that there is a very larger scale resin kit of the TOS Enterprise.

I'm waiting for the new release of the 1/537 reliant. Hopefully they will have fixed the issues with the top roll bar.

1/1000 SCALE ENTERPRISE-D!

Agree 1000% (Get it? 1/1000). Plus, a newly tooled 'D' could accommodate parts for a dreadnaught version.

Where does the AMT 18 inch Enterprise "Space Ship" model kit fit in?

@allscaletrek

Жыл бұрын

The classic stands entirely on its own and completely unique. It is a unique and is a special piece of history. I can not compare it to others.

What is the biggest Enterprise D model out there? Do they make one in a bigger scale then 1:1,000?

@Cydonia2020

Жыл бұрын

Not licensed, no. There might be larger scale garage kits of the ship, but I’ve never come across any in my research.

Anyone with a link to the number one enterprise from discovery 1/1000. It keeps taking me to polar lights etc. I'm sorry. I'm new and don't know.

Newbie here, it only took 2 hours of research! I'm in shock that a decent 1701-D hasn't been made. In my opinion the best looking lit ship you can build. I'm going all 1/1000 builds so fingers crossed they'll do a release of the 1701-D 1/1000 scale. 🙏

@ilpoomatili9549

11 ай бұрын

Where would you fit that giant, 36" long and almost as wide

@redogg2749

11 ай бұрын

@@ilpoomatili9549 Ooh I'd find somewhere, not sure if the wife would like it though ... 😅

@ilpoomatili9549

11 ай бұрын

@@redogg2749 😆ha!

I would like to see a 1/350 scale of uss Voyager that could be done

Who makes the #12 kit?

@allscaletrek

6 ай бұрын

Polar Lights

Great ships

I've been looking for the runabout deep space nine but no success

No Bandai?

the klingon cruiser is the best, my Kronos looks excellent but is a different colour, the gold decals are really nice, i've brought another one that should be here in January, i'll move this one to my bedroom.............. unfortunately it's not quite right i made a few mistakes that i can't correct without starting again and it bugs me.....so i'm going to have another go

Not a big fan of the JJPrise. Still that looks about the size a 1/1000 Scale Enterprise C would be ... Come on Round 2!

@Cydonia2020

Жыл бұрын

I don’t believe the nacelles are drooping. I think it is an optical illusion. In my opinion, it is the worst designed Enterprise. It looks clunky and is not aesthetically pleasing. And those engines with the curving toward the back make them look like they always droop.

I for one absolutely love the 1/537sc Enterprise,yes it has alot of flaws, but it is big enough to use for kit-bashing other ships in the fleet. 1/1000sc is way too small for me. Also, Round 2 is releasing an Aztec Decal set for the “D” around December.

There is a missing model, for better or worst: the Deep Space Nine station. It’s HUUUGE, and there was a special edition with lighting in the box with fiberglass wires for the windows. What’s your opinion on that?

The 1/1400 Enterprise-D has been rereleased twice, in clear and translucent. Lighting the nacelles is still a challenge, but they have done that much.

@slighter

11 ай бұрын

It has Never been released in translucent. Only in clear and opaque. But there is a translucent reseased coming up in late 2023/early 2024.

@CaptRobertApril

11 ай бұрын

@@slighter The initial clear version was *very* clear, whereas the second release wasn't quite as window-clear, hence translucent.

More than anything I would like all enterprises in scale lit up.

#12 looked like the nacelles had drooped!

great list...agree with most of his choices...the Romulan Warbird is a classic that's hard to ignore, but it is by far the worst fitting of all of these...

I am in total agreement on the need for a larger version of the USS Discovery. Round 2 originally had plans for a 1:1000 and 1:1400 (I think), but they haven't followed through with it (likely due to poor sales of these kits). Regardless, I keep bugging them and sending the occasional email through on their website asking for it... Being a pest, I know, but it would be so cool to have a bigger one (It's a really cool ship!). Also, no mention of the USS Franklin (Moebius Models) - that is a very well engineered kit. Made for lighting!

I'm surprised you put the 1/2500 DSC ships so high on the list; I came away from those really disappointed with how poorly the decals fit. I agree that they deserve bigger models though.

I know my opinion is not popular, but, enough with the lighting, enough with the can motors. (and yes, I am aware I can omit this stuff, but, I resent paying for stuff I have no need for. Admit it- there is a certain amount of irony in finishing a model, and drawing people into a room to see your new models, and then TURNING off the lights.

The reason the Excelsior got redone is because back in the 90s when Generations was released AMT redid the molds for the Excelsior turning it into the E-B Plus the window decals have a different pattern for the lower hull than what the filming model had and the kit lacks grid lines as well.

I'm just jealous.

I had the 537 scale enterprise and I can tell you that it has really bad nacelle droop and there is no coming back from that.

Dude you could be my twin, you look just like my son and I. where are you from?

Its a shame that they cant engineer the B'Rel class BOP with variable geometry wings in any scale.

@jonathanstrong4812

8 ай бұрын

give it a bit of time it will happened

Uh, that sagging of nacelles on KelvinPrise.

YES STAR WARS

@ilpoomatili9549

11 ай бұрын

How to make nerds angry

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i had no problem at all building the Rom warbird and i was like 10 years old .. sounds like he just built it wrong

My 1/200 scale D7 can be #21

"We've re-tooled models"? No, they re-tooled models. And some of those choices may very well be based on mass-manufacturability issues related to things such as injection molding concerns, loss of detail as the die wear out, etc. Unless you are willing to buy at Hasegawa-like prices?

#8.. easily the ugliest ship ever seen on Star Trek.

@scifiguy26

Жыл бұрын

Agreed 💯👍

@walterdpg

Жыл бұрын

I totally agree. It can be good for modeling but is ugly.

The Kelvin Enterprise to me is Fugly. I just won't buy one.

You didn't even give the grand daddy of the them all the original TOS 18" Enterprise even a mention!. HOW! Without that FIRST model kit there would be no others. I know it's a problem child and I've built several, but it still should be on this list. In the right hands that kit can be wonderful.

@allscaletrek

Жыл бұрын

The classic stands entirely on its own and completely unique. It is a unique and is special piece of history. I can not compare it to others.

USS VENGEANCE would be good and Vorcha too.................at 1/350

As mentioned many are products of their time ( let's not forget the ancient creed " it looks crappy, inaccurate goes together like it's from 3 different kits from different companies so stick a Star Trek label on it " those guys will buy anything 🤑🤑🤑 which is why I gave up getting the Trek kits from AMT/ERTL*American modelling trash/every release totally lame *✋ HOLD THE PHONE here let me explain my comment those companies make excellent cars, and SW kits among others it was the TREK kits ( certain SW kits as well) that really let me down way back when ( and I tried many times I'll tell you) and made me give up on the series NOW I'm more forgiving and considering getting some of the newest tooled releases like the shuttle, discovery series kits and the redesigned classic bridge ( back in the day 😱🤬🤬🤬🤬) but now it actually looks good and if I see one I'll pick it up as more modern tooling actually looks like the company has put serious effort in the kits 🤔 mmm ( the only kit I actually have from back when I liked was the DS9 I built a few and still have the fibre optic version yet to build and I'll swop the bulbs for LEDs when I get better at soldering circuits) as for a new galaxy class I agree that needs the update version ( saucer separation,triple nacelle option later ships registration options)

The more I see the 1000 scale Excelsior the more I'm sure it's under scale! The size of the bridge compared to ships of supposedly the same scale just doesn't make sense especially in its original iteration. Also the Kelvin Enterprise may be a good kit but god it's ugly! (Sorry, but I hate the Abrams designs with a passion!)

Sure if you make a six figure paycheck. Star Trek model's have gotten too Damned expensive! So the average person living paycheck to paycheck can not really afford them anymore. and to redo or improve the older kits your talking an even higher price tag than they have now. No one but those who make a huge paycheck is going to go running out and lay down 60-70 dollars for a 1/1400 scale 1701-D model kit plain and simple. when you live paycheck to paycheck you don't have that luxury especially with the basic costs of rent, food, electric, etc. constantly going up Only those with mean's are going to be buying any of these kits Number one. Number two just like you dogging on the old 1/537 scale refit. Many people can't afford the 1/350 scale model and they don't want the 1/1000 kit as they can not super detail it like they want. And The old 1/537 scale kit not only brings back memories of when they built that kit as a kid. but with some work and a little Elbow grease they can correct that kit into a decent model. and those who do NOT have the rook to display the huge 1/350 scale version they can have the a decent size model that they can detail with the officers lounge, botanical garden and shuttle bay and light up. So I totally disagree that it should be scrapped. the model can be lit and made into not only a nice model kit with lights, but also lend it's self to being kit bashed into other starship's that won't cost an arm and a leg like the 1/350 scale model. You keep leaving out that to many modeler's the older kits with all their flaws are nostalgic to allot of modeler's who have found memories of building them and want them back for that reason. Just because Something is old doesn't mean you gotta throw it away. and what better way to hone a modeler's skill than by correcting the flaws in these old kits. That's what being a modeler is, trying to recreate a replica of the actual thing rather it be a real or science fiction thing your modeling. Having all the work done for you does not constitute you as a 100% modeler as all your doing is inserting tab A into Slot B adding paint and decals with everything having been premade for you. Modeling is correcting or adding what should be there but isn't, how it should look but doesn't That's what Modeling is, That's what makes you a model Builder Not just an assembler..... Stepping off my soap box now.