Love ya brother. We lost an awesome Bible teacher in April. Les Feldick. Went home to be with the lord. Yall teach the same far as I can tell. Because of u tube his teachings continues!

@brucevaughn4374

5 ай бұрын

Folks, we need to fast and ask God for his Armor and also for THE GIFTS OF HEALINGS🙏

Wow...alleluia...alleluia...alleluia. The Lord is answering to my questions by confirming the things i knew about. Thank you Lord for you confirm me that i'm on the path of the truth in the face of the many resistancies and misunderstandings, while i share the rightly divided Word of God. Stay blessed.

Parsing for " rightly dividing the WORD of TRUTH. " # 1. - Correct "Text" of " translation, " # 2. - context, # 3. - co-text, # 4. - content, # 5.- the intent of the content, # 6. - support by the " who, what, where , when, why, and how. " And # 7. - Prayer before and after.

Awesome teachings as all your videos have thank you so much!!!

I am so ready to be home with my Heavenly Father! I pray that the body Of Christ will look with eager expectation for his appearing.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

You and me both pal. God bless.

Amen Brother. Thank you for teaching the Truth. God bless you.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome and God Bless.

@MarkCurtis-eh3ue

2 ай бұрын

I'm a little confused about this because I thought Paul said the Ressurection of the dead happens first, and then those who remain alive at the time.of this resurrection will be caught up together to meet the Lord in the air? The only place in Scripture where I see anything pertaining to a resurrection of the righteous dead is Revalation 20:4-6. The people sitting on thrones and souls under the altar and it says this is the "first resurrection". We know the second resurrection is for the damned after the 1,000 years and they go to the lake of fire, with this said, where is the resurrection at the rapture he speaks of if the "first ressurection" happens during the tribulation and actually its the tearing of the 6th seal. Is there another different 1st ressurection at the tearing of the first seal as this kicks off the 7 year tribulation and the rapture suppose to happen here? I'm not seeing a ressurection here...I hear of a rapture being taught, but no ressurection that precedes this.

I just wanted to say what a blessing to find this channel. Real teaching, plain and simple. First time I’ve heard this and believe this is the true meaning concerning the falling away. I have subscribed and gave a big fat thumbs up.

thank you Paul very clear understanding of departure

Your teaching is very much appreciated!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you and God Bless

Thank you always for opening our eyes 👀👀

This Dr. Has taught and confirmed years worth of Scriptures for me in just 3 days. I love this Brother

God bless you brother for the excellent teaching. Thank you.

Thanks for the awesome teaching Br 🙏

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure and God Bless

Departure speaks of being caught up: "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.”

@ryangallmeier6647

9 күн бұрын

Nope! The "rebellion" (Gk. ἀποστασία, apostasia) means: a departure from the TRUTH, from true doctrine, a departure from the faith. It does NOT mean: a departure from the earth, as in a Pre-Trib. Rapture. The word "caught up" in 1 Thes. 4:17 is a totally different word and means a totally different thing. You're equating the two words, and making them synonyms; they are not. Apostasy means: a falling away from the faith.

I’ve been enrapt with your videos since finding you a few days ago. Yesterday? I don’t even know, but I’ve learned so so much! Thank you for doing this, and I bought one of your books from your link here on YT and I am hard pressed not to hilight every single word! I’ve been taught (and thought I understood) all wrong, all along! *note to self- that is why he made the videos.

Thank you brother. Your subscriber here, your fellow watchman.🙂

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub and keep watching. I think it's near.

Thank you brother. Best evidence and reasoning I've seen on the subject!

Thx for that clarifying on the departure

Thank you Dr again amazing messages

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome, God Bless

nailed it bro ... peace+love>

I looked it up and this Bible expositor's name is Dr Paul Felter. He became a believer in 1977 at a Baptist Church in Daytona Beach, Florida. He does an excellent job explaining the Rapture and why the verse means departure as in a single event of the Rapture, rather than being translated as falling away, as in people leaving their faith. Hang in there as you are listening. The first part may seem long and a little tedious, but halfway through, fasten your seat belts. He makes an excellent case for the pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church.

I have realized that to maintain a position they make too many gestures. The church fathers cited the text in question as an "apostasy" from departing from the faith.

Great work brother

Thank you blessings ❤

Excellent, thank you brother!!!

Amen fantastic great job

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and God bless

Very well explained, especially "departure" vs. "falling away." I've heard a minimal number of speakers address this using departure vs. falling away. I can recall being taught falling away means leaving the faith by previous pastors. Thank you for your wisdom.

@JohnDavid-yx5xj

7 ай бұрын

except that there is nothing in that chapter to suggest that, what is Paul referencing in this chapter if you keep it in context? the rapture! there is nothing in this chapter to suggest Paul is reverencing leaving the church or faith

@EzequielAdames

7 ай бұрын

That’s where he lost me… An attack on the perfect word of God KJV.

@cvb7651

4 ай бұрын

@@EzequielAdames I also love the KJV and I think "falling away" is correct from a different point of view. When we are caught up and receive our spiritual bodies the earth will fall away from us!

@messagesforourtime9306

Ай бұрын

The KJV is speaking the truth. This passage is addressing the fact that the day of Christ hasn't happened and they haven't missed it. The falling away is spoken of by Jesus and Paul to Timothy. This man is wrong.

He’s so clear! Not exactly Mr Personality, lol, but clear as a bell.

@nickma71

3 ай бұрын

Kind of like the descriptions of Jesus himself.

This is such an important message and teaching in this passage. It’s a slam dunk for pre-trib rapture. So few teach it this way , even in the pre trib crowd. Dr Andy Woods is the first teacher I came across who taught this. He’s converted other respected teachers on this passage. You are only other one if came across who interprets what seems to me the correct way. Thank you

@au7-721

2 жыл бұрын

Most Independent Baptists teach this.

Amen Maranatha !

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Amen brother!

In my study's I found that "The Day of The Lord" mentioned 25 times in the word; announces a horrible day, a time that no man in his right mind would want to go through. "The Day of Christ" on the other hand mentioned 3 times by our Apostle is a glorious Day and the blessed hope of the church. my two cents. God bless you brother.

@dudleygordon6191

Жыл бұрын

Which means the apostasy and man of sin will be revealed first, then the day of Christ will happen and the rapture!

@robertcain3426

11 күн бұрын

I believe they are the same event, but from different perspectives. The two perspectives are the two contexts; speaking about the world and speaking about the church. For it is the blessed hope for the church. But not blessed for the world. Cheers

Good job!

Amen brother!

Thanks you brother, righteousness teaching through King James bible. Anton Melbourne

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome

The Body of Christ cannot lose salvation. It is not ours to own. He is faithful when we are faithless. There can be no "falling away".

Doctor Paul now I know why you have the doctrite degree to go along with the Holy SPIRIT; you gave us an old fashion grammar lesson. For years we just followed one another by calling the falling away or apastosy as a falling from faith as every generation can claim that distinction starting with the 1st century believers, your interpretation just makes so much more sense as it applies to the context of Paul's letter to this particular church after receiving a forgery which caused confusion and a little panic; Paul was to offer comfort as he explained this truth again , as we know he spentclittle time with this church and after hearing once or twice he felt it important to insure them that this was an awesome event, not passed on by or by TRIBULATION, but comfort and GRACE to be looked forward too. GODFIRST@i💜j€§μ§©

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Ron. It's amazing what a little grammar and staying in context will do for one's understanding of the Bible. 🙂

I've wanted to believe in the pre trib Rapture but 2 Thess 2 always stopped me - now I truly understand it. Thank you!.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Amen, and God bless.

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

@Candy Clews Isa. 26:19 is the raising of the dead. Isa. 26:20 we come to HIM, hidden for a little while in the many mansions while the indignation aka tribulation passes. Isa. 26:21 HE leaves HIS place to punish the inhabitants of the earth aka Day of the LORD.

@ralphowen3367

Жыл бұрын

@@rickhuntling7338 I have come to believe that Is. 26:20 refers to the Jewish catching away, also seen in Rev. 22:5.

@AmandathePandaBooks

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but we will know who the man of sin will be. Forget the gibberish. Revelation and even the words of Jesus, peter, paul, and John agree.

@jayjay-bz3rr

Жыл бұрын

@@AmandathePandaBooks. You will know who the man of sin is, after 1st Thessalonians 4:17 has occurred.

AMEN Brother Felter, See you in the clouds as we depart, and soon I suspect!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

7 ай бұрын

Amen, I can't wait!

I agree with you Brother Felter, Both 2 Thess. 2:3 and 2 Thess. 2:7 are the Pre-Trib Rapture. Be blessed and Godspeed 🙏

Amen! Thanks for sharing brother! I love you man! You are a blessing! Im praying for you, your family and everyone! I am watching and expecting for the rapture/event to happen TONIGHT (July 16th 2021) during Tisha'B'Av (9th of Av - Jewish holiday of mourning) on July 16th-18th 2021. I had a dream a few months ago that I saw the date of the rapture engraved in a tombstone, It was written in Hebrew and the only part I could understand was that the "end date" was the "16th". Darla from "God's gifts" YT channel had a dream where she woke up yelling "The 16th!". July 14th - 21st 2021 is the 70th week from the start of the Coronavirus pandemic on March 11th 2020, this could be the 70th week of Daniel chapter 9! If we are still here past July 18th then I will be watching and expecting for the rapture to happen during Tu'B'Av (Jewish holiday of love) on the Gregorian calendar (July 22nd - 24th 2021) and during the full moon. July 23rd 2021 is: - 500 days from the start of the Coronavirus pandemic on March 11th 2020 - 311 days from the signing of the Abraham Accord peace deal agreement on September 15th 2020 - 222 days from the first Coronavirus vaccine given in the U.S and the solar eclipse on December 14th 2020 - 200 weeks (1400 days) from the Revelation 12 sign on September 23rd 2017 - 111 days from Easter/Resurrection Sunday on April 4th 2021 - 88 days from Passover on April 27th 2021 - 70 days from Israel's 73rd birthday on May 14th 2021 - 40 days from when the new Israel government took office on June 13th 2021 About 4000 rockets were fired at Israel from May 9th until May 21st 2021 when they enacted a unilateral truce between Israel and the Palestinians. They are now proclaiming "Peace and safety", in 1:Thessalonians 5:3 it says "For when they shall say, peace and safety, the sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape". I believe it may be a 40 - 70 day delay/grace period. I really can't see us being here past July 2021, the first reason is because the U.S.A home eviction notices will expire at the end of July and 25 - 40 million Americans will be homeless because they are unable to pay rent since the beginning of the pandemic last year. (It was originally set to expire in the end of June, it has just been announced that it will be extended until the end of July). The second reason is because the next school semester starts in August/September and it has been said that they will make it a requirement for children to take the vax to attend school. I believe that 2021 is the year of the rapture because of the pandemic and near mandatory vax/jab and a sister had a dream that the rapture happened right after they made the vax/jab mandatory, also on my channel there was a video of a sister that had a vision of the rapture/event and she said that it will happen before 2022. KZread permanently deleted my main channel on June 13th with no warning, and I haven't posted a video since January! I take that as a sign that we are living in the final moments before the rapture/event! I give full glory to God for this comment because I have been praying everyday for God to reveal this information to me so that I can share it with everyone. We will not experience any pain during the rapture/event. See you in heaven! Pray and repent of your sins to God, not to be saved, but to show respect to God and strengthen your relationship. God/Jesus loves everyone of you like as if you were the only person in the entire universe! God bless you and your family!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother and God Bless

@bernhardbauer5301

2 жыл бұрын

Today we have the 27. of december 2021.

@Moto4Christ

2 жыл бұрын

@@bernhardbauer5301 Im praying for you and your family! The new macaroni virus is spreading at an increasing rate and lock down's have already across the world, a sister had a dream that we leave (Rapture/event) when the 2nd lock down happens. I am watching and expecting for the rapture/event to happen on Thursday December 30th/Friday December 31st on the last day's of the year 2021, Jesus said he would raise us up on the last day: "And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:40 A few brothers and sisters have had dreams and confirmations from God that the rapture will happen on a Thursday! And some have had dreams of the rapture happening during new years eve when there are fireworks! December 29th/30th/31st is: - 222 weeks and 5 days since the Revelation 12 constellation sign on September 23rd 2017 - 221 weeks from when former U.S president said "this is the calm before the storm" on October 5th 2017 - 990 days from the Notre dam cathedral fire/collapse on April 15th 2018 - 707 days (101 weeks/23 months and 7 days) from when they moved the Doomsday clock to "100 seconds to midnight" on January 23rd 2020 - 702 days (100 weeks and 2 days/23 months and 2 days) from when they first announced the Abraham Accord peace deal on January 28th 2020 - 471 days (15 months and 15 days) from when they signed the Abraham Accord peace deal on September 15th 2020 - 345 days (11 months and 11 days) from when U.S president Joe Biden was sworn into office on January 20th 2021 - 231 days (33 weeks/7 months and 17 days) from Ascension day on May 13th 2021 - 222 days from when they signed the unilateral truce deal between Israel and Palestine on May 21st 2021 - 202 days from when the man was swallowed by a whale (sign of Jonah) on June 11th 2021 - 200 days from when the new Israel prime minister and government was sworn into office on June 13th 2021 - 189 days (27 weeks/6 month and 6 days) from the Miami condo collapse on June 24th 2021 - 147 days (21 weeks) from former U.S president Barack Obama's birthday dinner on August 6th 2021 - 108 days (15 weeks and 3 days) from the 1 year anniversary of the Abraham Accord peace deal signing on September 14th 2021 - 102 days (3 months and 11 days) from when La Palma volcano began erupting on September 19th 2021 - 91 days (13 weeks) from when U.S president said "6 minutes, 6 days or 6 weeks" on October 1st 2021 - 41 days (1 month and 11 days) from the longest blood moon eclipse of the century on November 19th 2021 - 19 days (456 hours) from the mid-feast of Hannukah on the Essene calendar (Calendar that Jesus followed) on December 11th 2021 (A sister from "Holly2moons" YT channel had a dream that "time was off by 456" - 13 days UNTIL the 4 year anniversary of the false missile alert in Hawaii on January 13th 2022 - 134 days (4 months and 14 days) UNTIL Israel's 74th birthday on May 14th 2022 I believe that 2021 is the year of the rapture because on my channel there WAS a video of a sister that had a very detailed vision of the rapture/event and she said that it will happen before 2022 (KZread deleted it), I believe God is waiting until the very last possible day of 2021. She says that the rapture/event will be a bright white light lasting a few minutes and we will be transformed into our heavenly glorified bodies and brought up to heaven. I give full glory to God/Jesus for this comment because I have been praying everyday for God/Jesus to reveal this information to me so that I can share it with everyone. "If God/Jesus is everything, then we must be inside God/Jesus, and God/Jesus must be inside us" We will not experience any pain during the rapture/event. See you in heaven! Pray and repent of your sins to God/Jesus, not to be saved, but to show respect to God/Jesus and strengthen your relationship. God/Jesus loves everyone of you like as if you were the only person in the entire universe! Please share this message with your family and friends! God bless you and your family!

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

@@Moto4Christ what do say now when nothing happened and the dates past us by? Only the FATHER knows the day and hour. Just be happy with knowing the season brother.

Oh my gosh I was just thinking this a few weeks ago. What if the falling away really means rapture? I just found your channel a few days ago. Thank you.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome Gayle and God Bless.

@robusc4940

2 жыл бұрын

Yes Gayle, that is why we are blessed to have people like Dr Paul to explain The Bible simply and correctly :)

Amen Brother!!!!!!!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Amen to you.

Thank you once again for an excellent, easy to understand and accurate Bible teaching that is so misunderstood in most of the churches in our day. God bless you brother.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

You are very welcome and God Bless you too.

@jayjay-bz3rr

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Excellent teaching

This is great teaching. Thank you. This lines up with teaching by the late Irish author Patrick Herron who did a video on the meaning of “apostasia” probably 10 years ago here on KZread. He passed away in 2014 but had some solid teaching.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and God bless

I love your videos

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you and God bless.

How are we to correctly understand 2 Thessalonians 1:7 "And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels." Does this verse imply we will not rest or be gathered until this event? Or just that when this event occurs, we will be resting in heaven? Thank you for your videos and responding to comments.

@VFXShawn

3 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Lee Revelation 5:10 says " And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth", so this can not be the Body of Christ singing since we are not a nation of priests nor will we reign on the earth. Revelation was written before the Body of Christ was revealed to Paul, so we can not be mentioned in Revelation.

@VFXShawn

3 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Lee I believe the scattered Jews are singing that God has taken them out of every tribe, nation and tongue and made them priests and kings over the earth. The problem is that does not happen until the 2nd coming, so it is a bit confusing to me why they are singing so early in the text. Perhaps Revelation is not as linear in chronology as one might expect. It should be noted as well that it is the four beasts and the 24 elders singing, so if the 24 elders are the 12 patriarchs of Israel and the 12 apostles, then it makes perfect sense since they represent and are members of Israel. However, the patriarchs and apostles are not taken out of every tribe/nation, so perhaps they are singing on behalf of Israel.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Shawn, Please be careful not to take an isolated verse out of context and try to assign a meaning apart from its context. Read verses 3 through 10 and you will see the context. Resting with Paul and the other saints is the comfort and assurance that when Jesus returns with His mighty angels at the second coming He will take vengeance on those that persecuted the saints. Payback will come, so rest and be patient. "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" - 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 KJV God Bless.

@ralphowen3367

Жыл бұрын

I think rest with us means that at the catching away, the body will no longer be corruptible and vile, but finally at rest . Also compare Is. 26:20.

THANK YOU

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

Living in Christ and waiting in hope for my departure and resurrection to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Amen.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Me too.

@johnleger9062

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you I love you big brother. Will we remember our earthly family who rejected Our Father's Gift of Grace? When the Holy Spirit convicts a person of sin and they reject Him does He stop?I know the Holy Spirit gives godly sorrow, true repentance.

Oh we are close now.

100% correctj.

Thanks for this amazing explanation. Brother can l have your answer regarding the issue in Matthew 25:30 (KJV) And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 8:11-12 (KJV) And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. In chapter 25 was talking about the SERVANT then why they cast out in outer DARKNESS What this mean outer DARKNESS a hell fire? And in chapter 8 seems like they full of hate by gnashing of teeth. Can you explain this to me.. Thank you and Godbless brother!!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Great questions Jane. The outer darkness is synonymous with hell and the lake of fire. Even though there is fire, there is little to no light. Just the opposite of God's kingdom. The unprofitable servant, is one that does not do the Father's will. He is in rebellion against God and will be cast into outer darkness. hell. The weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth comes from the pain of being in the fire of hell and knowing there is no escape. Matthew chapter 8 is a reference to the Millennial kingdom, the thousand year reign of Jesus Christ on earth. Those that sit with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will be Gentiles during the Tribulation that want to hear the Patriarchs of Israel. Remember, the Old Testament saints are resurrected just after the second coming of Jesus Christ. They will be alive and in glorified bodies during the Millennial Kingdom. The children of the kingdom are the Jews to whom the kingdom was promised. Many of them rebelled against God to the point of killing their Messiah, Jesus Christ. They shall be cast out into outer darkness, hell, where there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. They were denied the kingdom because of their rebellion against God. I hope this helps, God Bless.

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

Outer darkness is absent the presence of GOD in the company of evil. Gnashing of teeth is a phrase used to represent hopelessness and despair. Mat. 8:11 is preceded by the Centurian having the faith of Abraham not Israel. Verse 11 is not a millennium verse but a prophesy of the Gospel spread to the four corners of the earth. The Children of the Kingdom will be supernaturally blinded, exiled and travail for the next 2000 years. The Kingdom is on the earth as we speak with the Gentile seated in the WORD amongst the writings of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. There is neither Jew nor Gentile in the Kingdom of the LORD, we are all one in the body of CHRIST. Soon the blindness will be lifted so they can come out of the outer darkness when the 70th begins.

At around min 15. you say the temple becomes desolate of God’s presence. Is it not the third temple the passage talks about, that was not filled by the presence of God? The temple that is built in or around the time of the Tribulation? Maybe I misunderstood and would appreciate if you explained it further. Thank you.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Viktoria. There have only been two Temples. The first was Solomon's Temple. The second was Zerubbabel's Temple built after the Jews returned from Babylon. That Temple was later called Herod's Temple because Herod did a major makeover on the Temple to garner favor from the Jews. The Third Temple is the Tribulation Temple. It will be a legitimate Temple with the presence of the Lord and Torah worship will commence once again. It the third Temple were not a legitimate Temple then the Antichrist desecrating it would have little meaning. After the Antichrist enters the Tribulation Temple and proclaims himself God, the presence of God leaves making the Temple desolate. This happens at the midpoint of the Tribulation. God's wrath is then poured out upon the Antichrist and his kingdom for the last half of the Tribulation. Hope that helps to clarify. God Bless.

@Viktoria-7

3 жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 wow, no sir. That will not be a legit temple.

I am grateful for the help. This answered many questions and mis interpretive concepts I began to form as I studied the scriptures and challenged the teachings of others based on those misconceptions. Thanks for the correction in doctrine.

Very clear teaching, but I still don't get it. So Paul is in essence saying that the gathering together unto Him (the rapture) can't happen unless the rapture happens first? Does that make sense?

@messagesforourtime9306

Ай бұрын

The man is very wrong. This is a false hope. The falling away must come. The context of this passage is about whether they missed th Rapture. Paul is assuring them that they in Thessaloniki at that time didn't miss it, because first must come the falling away and the man of sin. At that time the church was still in it's infancy!

@Mike65809

Ай бұрын

@@messagesforourtime9306 Yup it's a false hope to dupe the church in the critical hour we are heading into. Many will fall away under the persecution.

Finally. It’s settled. We are looking for that blessed hope Jesus Christ and not the antichrist just like Paul states in Titus. Come Lord Jesus.

In 2 Thessalonians 2, the word is "parousia" for the coming of the Lord. Paul says that we will be gathered (harpazo) at His coming. The same coming in 1 Thessalonians 4 when the dead and alive are caught up into the clouds to be with the Lord forever. There is only one coming of the Lord, i.e. the Rapture. That is the day of the lord that comes like a thief in the night. That brings sudden destruction to the unbelievers in 1 Thessalonians 5. Not a 7-year tribulation but sudden destruction when the heavens and earth melt in the fire of 2 Peter 3 and then a new heaven and earth will come in Revelation 21. The "apostasia" is not the rapture. It makes no sense to say that the "rapture" will not happen until the rapture comes. Remember what Paul said in Romans 11, that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, then all Israel will be saved. The fullness of Gentiles means that a time will come when there won't be anymore new believers in the world - possibly a reference to the apostasia.... Jesus will return to save the Church at that time. Remember in 2nd Peter 3, Peter said that God has held back the 2nd coming because he wants nobody to perish. So then God will send Jesus only when the fullness of Gentiles has come in....and then Israel's eyes will be opened at Christ's coming. There is no 7-year tribulation - not a single verse in the Bible for such a theory. The tribulation of Matthew 24 already happened with the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70.

Brother how do you read that the Holy Spirit be taken out of the way. For in the tribulation period the Holy Spirit will also be with those saints. Thank you

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

@Lusie Toumi the "mystery" is the church. We are busy working against iniquity as we speak as long as the FATHER "letteth" this work is what withholdeth the son of perdition and the principalities under him. when the day and hour arrive the FATHER will say SON go get your bride and we will be taken out of the way.

If the day of Christ refers to the whole 7 years then how can the man of sin be revealed (an event that takes place at the midpoint) happen before the 7 years begin?

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

In that context, the day of Christ is the day of the Lord, the 7-year Tribulation.

@finleyfield6912

2 жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 the bible never says that the day of the Lord is seven years long.

Instead of relying on previous translations of the word, would it not be better to find out what the actual Greek meaning of the word is? I input the word “apostasia“on google translate Greek to English and the translation was ”apostasy“ then I switched from English to Greek and input ”departure“ it was an entirely different word and ”apostasia“ was not even suggested as one of the translations. So, how does the word ”apostasia“ translate to ”departure“ in a physical sense as opposed to figurative or abstract?

@messagesforourtime9306

Ай бұрын

It doesn't...This Is deception

@thetower8553

10 күн бұрын

Tried this with claude 3 and apparrently "apostasia" can be used to mean departure from a physical location but claude is an LLM, it can and has given me flat out incorrect, outdated or contradictory responses. But in any case Apostasia primarily means falling away from previously held belief, or rebelling and cannot mean departing in the given context of that scripture.

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Hey, been following you and I subscribed 😊 I have a question about this verse about the 24 elders. Revelation 5:9 KJV And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; ^^^^ I have a hard time not believing that the 24 elders aren't us... Because of the new song... What is your thoughts? God bless

@Im-so-ronery

3 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Lee I want him to clarify, since I got the impression that he doesn't believe the book of Revelation pertains to the Church

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

You are right. The book of Revelation was written to Israel. Watch my last Rightly Dividing video for a further explanation as it is too long for a reply.

@Im-so-ronery

3 жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 thanks.

@Im-so-ronery

3 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Lee the new song is about us. I may believe that in error.

@jackgwynn3877

3 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Lee Do you know that Israel has been scattered among all nations?

What temple of God will be present for the Antichrist to desolate at the halfway mark of the tribulation?

Two more questions: 1. Is this man of sin referring to the Anti-Christ? 2. Does this passage correlate to Daniel 9:27?

I’ve read many comments in this video, and the one thing thing taught by Dr Felter that no comment mentioned is this: “..when Paul says that “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, 👉except there come a falling away first,👈 and …….;” ‭‭(2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2‬:‭3‬ ‭KJV)‬‬ To my understanding, Paul is stating (“a falling away first”) as “a” singular and “future” event; however, saying that “falling away first” means “falling from the faith”, begs the question “aren’t we (saints) falling away from the faith since the beginning, even starting with backsliding Israel?” Or the saints are going to fall away from the faith “only once” sometime in the future? That doesn’t even sound right to me, because there has always been saints falling away from the faith. Not every saint that’s fallen away from the faith is being put on hold or aside to make that declaration at a future time all of them together 😂, I think not. That will sound like this: “Hey! Here we are, NOW.! All of us declare that we are falling away from the faith..!”

What happened to the second half of the sentence that began in Verse 3, namely Verse 4? 2nd Thessalonians 2:4 ", Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

@messagesforourtime9306

Ай бұрын

If the church is gone the Antichrist has no enemy to exalt himself against. This man is wrong.

Another question: Since Paul is referring to what he had taught them, the Thessalonians, in his previous visit to them, to which verse or verses would Paul be referring to in 1st Thessalonians? Could it be 1 Thes 4:13-18 regarding the rapture? Brings up another question: The word "church" is thrown around so much that most people might very well think that this is referring to the members of an earthly church, like "The Church of the Ever Faithful located at 1 Tindale Place, Phoenix, AZ" or something like that. Or it could be referring to the one and only true Christian church, the Roman Catholic Church, all of it's members that follow the dogmas and doctrines of the Catholic church. The up to date and fully authorized membership card that all members of the church carry in their wallet guarantees them to be raptured! Everyone knows this. Right? This is the 2nd time since I reviewed the pre-tribulation rapture theory about 30 years ago. I came up with the same problem, probably the biggest stumbling block for a pre-tribulation rapture as so many things in 2 Thes 2 have to be explained away. Chuck Missler (one of my favorite Bible teachers) makes this mistake, but he's human and I appreciate him saying all the time, don't take my word for it. Correct. We should never take a Bible teacher's word for his teaching, except of course the Pope, right?

Then people hear the transliteration of “apostasy” and then it seals most people into thinking falling away as a back slider

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Hello Marion. Yes, it's a shame what has been done to the word over the recent years. It's difficult to get the idea of falling away from the faith out of peoples heads to look at the true and historical meaning. Thanks and God Bless.

@ralphowen3367

Жыл бұрын

The born again cannot backslide. That is almost exclusively an Old Testiment term. But Pentecostals who insist on free will use it much.

@rgnold2517

9 ай бұрын

​​@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 could it be that many of the church doctrines taught today have very little to do with what the scriptures actually offer.... just as in the case of yourself, here you are trying to correct all these false beliefs and teachings that are flowing from the pulpit almost every Sunday and taught in mid week bible studies.... Few believers have real biblical understanding today the teaching is so far from biblical... "Christians" flock to churches that tickle the ears... They will not tolerate sound Doctrine... Maybe this is another reason why Jesus will say to some "i never knew you" The fundamentals of Faith have an order but when talking with a so called "believer" they render each verse as they personally feel it should be, omitting God's order. We have a multitude of Bible versions and church leadership encourage those in the congregation to choose the one they like. I was listening to a young woman a few days back and she was explaining why Eve ate, her statement was: because Eve "knew better" than God and decided it was right for her to eat. How could she possibly come to this kind of conclusion??

From the point of view of the raptured, the earth falls away.

I'm not sure why no translation in the last 400+ years has corrected this (falling away to departure), that to me is just as much a mystery...

@ralphowen3367

Жыл бұрын

I think it a toss-up as to who departs or falls away, and where they go. In Eccl. 8:1⁰, it says of apostates that they came and went from the place of the holy. In I Jn. 2, it says the same, that they went out from us because they were not of us. But I will look more at this tomorrow, Lord willing.

@ralphowen3367

Жыл бұрын

Ecll. 8:10.

I have considered this view before but without the historical context you have given here, I discarded it. I pictured a sudden major apostasy when “Christians” were faced with the mark. The man of sin would be revealed, false converts would take the mark and start turning in the brethren to be killed. I didn’t have hope of a pretrib rapture. With this context, a pretrib rapture makes more sense. Thank you

I submit that 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 2 is a huge stumbling block for a number of doctrines.

Didn’t you say in your video about The day of The Lord that the Apostasy/ Falling Away pertained to Israel falling away from their Biblical roots of the Old Testament and following the Man of Sin….?? At 28:59 in that video.

Thanks be to God. My question is why do most churches and Christian’s call this present time as last days instead of church age. I understand the church (Body of Christ) will not be here during the last days describe in the book of Daniel and the book of Revelation

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Paul uses the term "last days" for the church also in "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come." - 2 Timothy 3:1 KJV. As the world scene grows darker in preparation for the Tribulation, that darkness will spill over into the church as Paul warned Timothy. God Bless

I encourage you to read Lee Brainard's book called, "2 Thessalonians, Rapture or Apostasy". He is a pre tribulationist, but shows (exhausitvely) why apostasia cannot be translated as the rapture in this passage. This includes exposing the various exegetical fallicies performed to get to this interpretation. Its worth the read. We dont use 6th century word usage to define early church usage of a word. Also, all those earlier translators who defined it as departure, if you look at their commentaries, you will see that even though they defined it as departure, they still understood it as a falling/departure from the said faith. So youd be contradicting what they believe by their use of the word departure. Im not going to get into eschatologcal views, but at least in regard to this interpretation, we gotta back down from it. Check out Lee's book. God bless.

That's right.. Only a literal departure will reveal (expose) the Man of sin.

@josephkuzara2609

2 ай бұрын

By departure it is not concerning the rapture to meet the Lord in the sky, but a falling away from the faith on a global scale first that allows the antichrist to come out of the midst of where he is into being to then reveal himself. In studying the greek through the Holy Spirit concerning this passage, it has come to my attention that a part of the passage in particular vs7 of the line: until he be " Taken" out of the "Way"is mistranslated, confusing greatly the meaning of 2 thess2:1-8 causing a plethora of false interpretations. Although I would say for many out of ignorance because every english version i have come across has universally used the mistranslation either deliberately out of there own presuppositional agenda and or in lacking wisdom ,copy and pasted the previous work of others without investigating in the greek. the Great apostasy of the Faith must occur first before the antichrist comes out and reveals himself so the climax of the fallen away of the faith is what keeps the antichrist from revealing himself. but the focus of Paul is not who or what is restraining the antichrist but what and specifically who is restraining the 2nd return of Messiah Yeshua. sense the letter concerns the parousia of Yeshua and our gathering to Him while reminding the thessalonians of that appointed time because many were sending written reports that the day of YAHVH had already occurred. A.T. Robertson explains that an idiomatic use of the neuter singular may appear when an abstract expression is used to sum up a whole mass of ideas or expressions. (A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, Nashville: Broadman, 1934, p.409 So Paul was reminding them what restrains(neuter) as a whole concerning both awaiting events and who restrains(masculine) in particular is restraining Yeshua's return. which is the mystery of lawlessness already at work and will not come to its climax until the masculine restrainer comes out of the midst of where he is(not taken out of the way) to then reveal himself. then Yeshua is no longer restrained to return to then destroy the antichrist. Which will be as a thief in the night during the 6th vial to catch the unforgiven off guard. How 2 thess 2:1-8 should be understood with the correct translation is: 1.Now we beseech you, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the Day of the Lord is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called god, or that is worshipped; so that he as god sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what restrains(neuter vs.3) that He(Messiah Yeshua) might be revealed in His time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he(the antichrist) who now restrains(masculine) will do so until he comes out of the midst(of where he is). 8 And then shall he be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming.

@normmcinnis4102

2 ай бұрын

@@josephkuzara2609 a falling away from the faith will never reveal the man of sin.

@josephkuzara2609

2 ай бұрын

@@normmcinnis4102 According to 2 thess 2 it does, as the climax of the falling away of the faith and not a secret invisible rapture. must come first to then reveal the antichrist according to Paul. This passage is concerning the coming of the Lord as The Day of the Lord and our gathering to Him and what awaiting events must be fulfilled before His appointed time to return. Paul addressed the the restraining events as the neuter katechon and in particular the masculine katechon to which changes focus upon who is the climax of the works of lawlessness, who will not come out into being to reveal himself until at first the apostasy of the faith. Which will be a great global apostasy that is linked to the satan appointed antichrist being giving his power and throne to wage war against those who hold to the true testimony of Yeshua(Gospel) that is not explained through PSA . called the great tribulation. Which is the wrath of satan through his appointed instrument against the saints of God who remain on earth even during the events of Gods wrath yet protected because we are not appointed to Gods wrath to come.

@josephkuzara2609

2 ай бұрын

@@normmcinnis4102 according to Paul it does, you go against Paul who said specifically and plainly that the falling away must come first then the reveal of the antichrist. The falling away is of the faith but of a greater and global scale that is linked to the antichrist. The antichrist would already be existing but wont be active proclaiming to be God until that global apostasy. These two events restrain the 2nd return of Messiah Yeshua. You being most likely pre-trib are confused by Paul thus re-interpret his plain teachings.

@josephkuzara2609

2 ай бұрын

@@normmcinnis4102 according to Paul the Apostle it does. As the greek says a falling away occurs first, then the reveal of the antichrist. So stop believing falsely. The fallen away is a portion of the climax of the works of lawlessness that is already at work. But wont be fully fulfilled until the reveal of the antichrist specifically appointed by satan, giving his power and throne to him to wage war globally upon the saints.

I have a question, but first want to thank you so very much for the straight view to our blessed KJV Bible. I am a committed KJV reader so learning the words "falling away" are classically "departure" is bothersome (because I believe so deeply in its validity), but at the same time a wonderful truth. I always found "lest there be a falling away first" to be problematic so this clears that up - thank you! My question is: the word "replenish" in Genesis 1:28 "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth" when speaking to Adam and Eve. "Replenish" implies that the world was filled then emptied, but God had just made the world 5 days earlier. Do you have clarity for this conundrum? Was there a different word used in the Bibles before the KJV or do you have an explanation to offer regarding this passage? Thank you again for insights and teachings. I can't wait for your book to arrive, might even be today! God bless you!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

The word states that in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. We don't know when the beginning occurred for the earth. Many believe there was a pre-Adamic race of beings that were destroyed and the earth cleansed. That might account for the passage that the earth was without form and void. This could answer your question, but sadly we are given little information in scripture about this mater. God Bless

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

Void is empty, replenish is to make the earth like the Heaven above "on earth as it is in heaven". The creation was made in 6 24 hour days, thus sayeth the LORD.

@sunnyjohnson992

2 жыл бұрын

Genesis 1:28: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” That verse is stating that Adam and Eve would have to fill the earth with their offspring and it would take time. Eve would have children, and those children would bear children until the earth became fully inhabited just as God intended. (Isaiah 45:18)

@sunnyjohnson992

2 жыл бұрын

@@rickhuntling7338 The word “replenish” means to fill up again; to restore a stock or supply. 2 Peter 3:8 tells us one day with God is a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. So it was NOT a literal 24 hours but a longer period of time, thousands of years for each of the creative days. This harmonizes with the evidence found in the earth itself!

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

@@sunnyjohnson992 then you don't believe creation was 6 evenings and mornings like the WORD says. What other scripture don't you believe? A thousand years is a day, and a day a thousand is GOD stating HE is outside time. You apply one without the other, making 6 days not literal to keep a supernatural event fit your natural explanation. The other hand the creation was 6 nano seconds using your logic in scripture. "In the beginning" is time created outside eternity. The heavens is space the earth is mater, In six days JESUS created everything that was created is not a natural phenomenon but a supernatural event. If you discount it, toss the rest of the bible. Reblenish can can be to make on earth as it in Heaven. The earth was void except the garden with open gates. The animals and creeping things filled the void. Without form is the creation needed to fill the void to give it purpose. The evidence is six evenings and mornings, as it is written. The Hebrew is a witness to 6 24 hour days. What would 6 thousand years mean to a naturalist? 6 million years they will still call you a nut-case, LOL . They believe 13 billion years and still climbing. Anything but GOD's six days is what they preach and you joined their wagon train.

Thank you 💗 So very much!! God bless you!! ✝️

Very good presentation. Makes clear sense. Hoping for the Rapture soon!

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks and God bless

That term is used 7 times in the Bible and it always means "falling away, foresake". A historian did a study and search of non biblical literature containing the term apostasy, in a 300 year span surrounding the writing of Thessalonians. He found 355 occurances of the term and EVERY time is meant "falling away, foresake". I'm not dogmatic against pre-trib, but I am on this bogus argument.

Thank you! I am so tired of reading what commentators, bible translators, and teachers are saying, that apostasia is a falling away, or rebellion or defection from the faith. How does everyone get this wrong?

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Because they follow bogus church traditions and not the word of God.

@sunnyjohnson992

2 жыл бұрын

The Greek noun a•po•sta•si’a comes from a verb that literally means “to stand away from.” The noun has the sense of “desertion; abandonment” rebellion.” Thus, it denotes more than a mere falling away because of spiritual weakness or doubt. In this context, Paul uses the word “apostasy” with regard to a RELIGIOUS defection that would develop before “the day of Jehovah.” He means a willful abandonment of true worship and the service of God. So YES, it does mean rebellion, abandonment or defection!!😊

Did God replace the Sons of god that departed Heaven with the body of Christ

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

I think He will. But that remains to be seen after the Rapture.

Resorting to “better sources” and linguistic gymnastics they change not in this case “day of Christ” to “day of the Lord”, creating a new set of problems, or in this case !!!! turning “falling away ” on its head so that the church falls upward toward the air. What nonsense! This is why this hurts me to see you’ve been so solid on everything so far except turning the falling away n upward fall into the heavenly hummmm that’s not falling away that would be called flying away Changing words in the Bible to align with a doctrinal position undermines Biblical inerrancy and preservation, and is a very weak defense for any doctrine.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

Michael., I changed "day of Christ" to "day of the Lord" based on the context as that is what the believers believed hence the request for confirmation from Paul. Also, the phrase "falling away" is found only in the King James Bible as all previous English Bibles used the word "departing." I did not change "words in the Bible to align with a doctrinal position" as the Rapture is not dependent upon 2 Thess 2:1-3. You might be better served asking why the King James translators changed "departing" to "falling away"?

@beckadale

2 жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 apostasia the greek word means a departure from one's previous standing. Defector. Yeah? It has more in the meaning than simply departure.

Dr. Andy Woods says that the word apostasy used to have the definition "departure", but the KJV changed it to "falling away"

@Im-so-ronery

3 жыл бұрын

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@Im-so-ronery

3 жыл бұрын

I posted Dr. Andy Woods video about apostasy (falling away/departure)

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have see Andy Woods video and agree with his premise that apostasia means departure and the passage supports the Pre-Trib Rapture.

@Im-so-ronery

3 жыл бұрын

@THE FORM OF SOUND WORDS MINISTRIES its a translation from Greek to English. The KJV is probably the best one IMO. The Falling Away translation of apostasy was 1st put into the KJV. Previously translated versions prior to the KJV had this translated as "departure".

@longingfortheharpazomoment7743

3 жыл бұрын

@@Im-so-ronery Read this and you'll see the influence on the KJV's translation en. wikipedia. org/wiki/King_James_Version

Indeed, falling away has been always in the game, Satan was deceiving the world since Adam and Eve. However, I wonder since Satan now knows his destiny and the timeline, wouldn't it be in his interest to actually prolong the revelation of the anti-Christ and his apparent end, rather than expediate it? Or, he is powerless as he is on Jesus's timeline?

OMG! Changing the meaning of a word to fit your narrative is an example of Apostasia.

If the Holly Spirit is taken away. How can anyone be save during the Tribulation period without the presence of the Holly Spirit on earth.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

The Holy Spirit is taken out of the way and His restraining of evil stopped. He steps aside so to speak for the Antichrist to rule. God bless

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

@Simeon Wellbeck Amen. 100% correct. The "mystery" is the code name for CHRIST Church. The Church is what withholdeth the son of perdition and our war with his principalities. The Doc. misunderstands verse 2nd Thess. 2:7. The mystery aka church is already at work on iniquity by spreading the Gospel. Only YHWH letteth us continue our work until HIS will be done at HIS day and hour. "HE" is a code name for the Body of CHRIST. "until he "mystery" be taken out of the way.

@simeonwelbeck3805

2 жыл бұрын

That’s right, Thanks

The restrainer is Michael the arch angel. It says so in Daniel.

Where does Paul teach that the rapture happens before the tribulation?

@sandrakruger2547

2 жыл бұрын

He would be teaching against what Jesus said in Mathew 24 about His coming (after) the tribulation.

@robertbrown6879

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandrakruger2547 How so?

@sandrakruger2547

2 жыл бұрын

If there was something like the rapture before the tribulation and Paul taught this he would be teaching oposite what Jesus taught in Mat 24. Jesus answered the Disciples question about His coming that He comes after the tribulation.

@robertbrown6879

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandrakruger2547 Do we know when the 7th Trumpet sounds in relation to the 70th week of Daniel?

46 Bibles: 14 says rebel/rebellion/revolt, 17 says apostasy, 10 says fall away, 5 says depart.

What are your thoughts on the phrase “taken out of the way”? The Greek word is ‘ginomai’ meaning fully in the midst of: a complete opposite of all Bible translations. To read it with the true meaning of ginomai, it would make sense that he who restrains is the antichrist restraint the return of Christ until he (the antichrist) is (not taken out of the way, rather..) fully in the midst.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

2 жыл бұрын

The keyword there is "ek" meaning "out of". The Holy Spirit is taken "out of" the way, or out of the midst. No, the Antichrist is certainly not the restrainer. He will not restrain the return of Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit is the present restrainer of evil which when He is removed will the unlike anything the world has ever seen. God bless

@stephaniedoe2239

2 жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 thank you very much. Where did you get ‘ek’ from so I can compare. I got ginomai from the Greek & Strongs interpretation. Bless you

@bernhardbauer5301

2 жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434: The Holy Spirit is the restrainer? Fine. Now the Holy Spirit is taken away and the people who were baptised to one body are left behind? That is nonsense. The Body of Christ is hindering the development of evil. This Body has to be removed from earth first. Without the body the Holy Spirit cannot do his work, which is to gloryfy Christ. We should not mix up the Body of Christ with the Bride of the Lamb.

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

Actually the "mystery" is the church. For almost 2000 years we have worked against iniquity. The presence of the church is what withholdeth the son of perdition in dwelled by the HOLY SPIRIT. HE (YHWH) letteth until HE (Body of CHRIST) be taken away. 2nd Thess. 2:7 is a powerful pretrib rapture verse. The HOLY SPIRIT has many titles but restrainer in not one of them. If the HOLY SPIRIT is removed all of Israel will not be saved and no tribulation saints will come to the LORD. Another Rapture Verse is Rev. 12:5. The masculine "he" or "his" is a code name for the Body of CHRIST. The man child will be caught up "hrapazo" to his throne. If I remember right JESUS ascended not "hrapazo", snatched away.

@ralphowen3367

Жыл бұрын

@@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434 The Holy Spirit as God is, is everywhere at once, so that it is actually the apostate world that gets moved. This although in Hos. 5:15 we have a similar saying about God removing Himself.

In studying the greek through the Holy Spirit concerning this passage, it has come to my attention that a part of the passage in particular vs7 of the line: until he be " Taken" out of the "Way"is mistranslated, confusing greatly the meaning of 2 thess2:1-8 causing a plethora of false interpretations. Although I would say for many out of ignorance because every english version i have come across has universally used the mistranslation either deliberately out of there own presuppositional agenda and or in lacking wisdom ,copy and pasted the previous work of others without investigating in the greek. the Great apostasy of the Faith must occur first before the antichrist comes out and reveals himself so the climax of the fallen away of the faith is what keeps the antichrist from revealing himself. but the focus of Paul is not who or what is restraining the antichrist but what and specifically who is restraining the 2nd return of Messiah Yeshua. sense the letter concerns the parousia of Yeshua and our gathering to Him while reminding the thessalonians of that appointed time because many were sending written reports that the day of YAHVH had already occurred. A.T. Robertson explains that an idiomatic use of the neuter singular may appear when an abstract expression is used to sum up a whole mass of ideas or expressions. (A Grammar of the Greek New Testament in the Light of Historical Research, Nashville: Broadman, 1934, p.409 So Paul was reminding them what restrains(neuter) as a whole concerning both awaiting events and who restrains(masculine) in particular is restraining Yeshua's return. which is the mystery of lawlessness already at work and will not come to its climax until the masculine restrainer comes out of the midst of where he is(not taken out of the way) to then reveal himself. then Yeshua is no longer restrained to return to then destroy the antichrist. Which will be as a thief in the night during the 6th vial to catch the unforgiven off guard. How 2 thess 2:1-8 should be understood with the correct translation is: 1.Now we beseech you, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Yeshua the Messiah, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the Day of the Lord is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that Day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called god, or that is worshipped; so that he as god sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what restrains(neuter vs.3) that He(Messiah Yeshua) might be revealed in His time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he(the antichrist) who now restrains(masculine) will do so until he comes out of the midst into being(of where he is). 8 And then shall he be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. The error is using the uncommon usage of these two greek words(mesou and genētai) unwarranted. It would only be warranted if the common usage was incoherent to the passage. But it is not . Even bible hub uses the correct word usage in vs7 yet by interpretive choice of their own presuppositions chose to alter the meaning in [ ] brackets.

The 5 unwise virgins fell away because they did not know the night would be so long and dark, they had not enough light for this purpose. The 5 wise virgins did not fall away because they knew its going to be a long wait in darkness. At midnight Jesus came. 5 (half) of the group walked away, fell away, went back to the world. Jesus said He knew them not. How many are willing to wait and prepare (even if the night may last much much longer) than many says?

You have given your paraphrased view of this passage, so I will give mine. The return of Christ will not happen until the rebellion (apostasia) of the world, all who are perishing (verse 10) comes first and the man of sin, the son of perdition, a personification representing enlightened humanity which is to be in full rebellion against God as the rebellion which was at Babel. This is the last rebellion against God and his Christ by mankind to become his own lord and master of his own destiny, which is the metaphor of; to sit in God's place, to save himself apart - anti - from Christ. The day of the Lord, the return of Christ will not come until after these things happen because these things must first take place. The world is to recieve the delusion which God send's out to decieve the world in following after the beast, which is the rebellion of humankind as at Babel/Bavel/Babylon, so that they prove their condemnation because they loved the darkness instead of the light. Cheers

it doesnt make sense that the holy spirit would be taken away since people get saved durring the tribulation

Tyndale was martyred, they burned him alive. He knew that this could happen to him but he'd rather die such a terrible death than not bringing the Bible to each house.

,If the Holy Spirit meant departing from the faith, when saying a falling away.Why use different words. He knows how to say departing from the faith as He did in first Timothy

Where does bible say 7 years of Tribulation ? I see Tribulation and Wrath in the final 7 years.

Actually the 1382 Wycliff Bible states “dissension” instead of departing.

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

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That] No man deceive you in any manner. For but dissension come first [For no but departing away, or dissension, shall come first], and the man of sin be showed, the son of perdition,

The Day of the Lord CANNOT be a 7 year period. Joel 2 talks about that happens before the Day of the Lord. The sun, moon, and stars will not give their light. There will be earthquakes also. Since we know this needs to happen, the teaching that the Day of the Lord being a 7 year period is false. There are many falsehoods here. Paul talks to the Thessalonians and tells them if you keep reading, that their relief comes when Christ comes back in flaming fire taking vengeance, 2 thess 1. There is an issues when you read the chapters as separate. When you read chapters 1 and 2 as a whole document, it is clear to see what the Day of the Lord means, that Paul is actually addressing them being afflicted, and Christ coming to repay that, at his coming and our gathering to him. Apostacy refereed to here also is not a physical departure of the church. You can not find any other places where this applies. It refers to the false teachings that will accompany the end times as scripture repeats over and over.

@davekpghpa

3 ай бұрын

Amen. This redefining of what is obviously meant as foresake is the absolute worst example of manipulation of the word for a desired outcome.

Robert Breaker says that the 'falling away' means that people start to 'mindset', I guess you could say, themselves from sound doctrine. Like instead of believing that it's a pre-trib. rapture, they start believing that it's at another time: mid-trib., pre-wrath, post-trib. And I'm inclined to agree. However I don't agree with the Day of Christ being a synonym for the Day of the Lord, I can see how the Day of Christ can refer to the start of the Tribulation period, which is technically true according to scripture. The antichrist has an 'agreement' with Israel that they can worship in their temple for 7 years and when that agreement is made, that's when the antichrist is revealed (not when he walks into the temple and sits on the throne proclaiming himself to be god, which I heard one youtuber say). But if you think about it, saying that the 'falling away' is the rapture doesn't make sense. We see in 1 Thess. 4:17 that "we which are alive and remain shall be 'caught up' together with them in the clouds." Like, if you're running in a race and you're currently in second place and you're trying to get in first place because you wanna win, you start running faster to 'catch up' with whoever's in first. But if you don't really wanna win and you're just in the race for the heck of it, and you start slowing down, putting yourself in third place, then fourth, and so on, you're 'falling behind.' So 'catching up' to first place is moving yourself forward, and 'falling behind' is moving yourself backward by slowing down. Being caught up and falling away are 2 different things. Not to mention, the Day of the Lord refers to the Battle of Armageddon, at the end of the Tribulation. Joel 2:11 "And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the Day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?"

@marionrhodus8464

3 жыл бұрын

Robert Breaker also wrongly teaches about Day of Christ

@rightlydividingthewordoftr9434

3 жыл бұрын

Even if you go with the "falling away" translation, nothing in the word "apostasia" tells you what is being fallen away from. Mr. Breaker is only guessing or assuming it is a different point of view on the timing of the Rapture. That might be his opinion but without scriptural support. Yes, the confirmation of the covenant begins the 7-year Tribulation and the Antichrist proclaiming himself in the Temple is 3.5 years later. Don't read verses 2 and 3 into the same day. They must be understood with the text in Daniel chapter 9. Taking a single verse and trying to make a doctrine from it is very dangerous and will lead you to error. The day of Christ is the Tribulation as it is Jesus Christ who opens the 7 seals unleashing His wrath upon Israel and a Christ rejecting world. You make several good points for the interpretation of "apostasia" as "departing" instead of falling away. You said "Being caught up and falling away are 2 different things." You are correct. But being caught up and departing are synonymous. Here again you are assigning a meaning to the phrase "Day of the Lord" apart from the context in which it is used. If you don't stay in context, you will be confused. Here are some addional passages on the Day of the Lord which support it referring to the Tribulation. "Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty." - Isaiah 13:6 KJV "Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come." - Joel 1:15 KJV "The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come." - Joel 2:31 KJV "Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?" - Amos 5:20 KJV God Bless.

@ReligiousG

3 жыл бұрын

In the video, you mentioned that if the Day of Christ was referring to the rapture, than they would've been happy and excited about it instead of worrying. I do agree with that. However, I started thinking about it earlier today. In the King James, it has the day of Christ 'is at hand', though in the New King James, it has the day of Christ 'had come.' (had come being past tense, whereas has come would be present tense) That made me think that, if the day of Christ does refer to the rapture and the Tribulation was happening already, they were worried that they were left behind and missed the rapture. Which is why Paul assured them that the day wouldn't come unless a falling away happened first and the man of sin was revealed. Not entirely sure how relevant that is, if it is, but it's a thought I had.

@rickhuntling7338

2 жыл бұрын

@@ReligiousG I agree with the grieving being left behind. Paul said remember what I preached last time being the Rapture and the day of CHRIST that follows. Isa. 26:19,21 is in perfect harmony. You and the Doc. need to stop preaching from the "Late Great Planet Earth" Dan. 9:27 error. You call Messiah anti-Christ and some contrived peace treaty with Israel allowing them to build a 3rd Temple. It's nothing but dung that Hal Lindsey invented out of his money grubbing head. Go to the Hebrew text and try to find the definite article for people or prince, it's not there. Hebrew grammar and English both require a definite article or a proper name to be the antecedent to "HE" in 9:27. The antecedent is Messiah not the anti-Christ prince. It's irrefutable when you apply the rules of Hebrew or English grammar to "a prince". Dan. 9:27 reads like this. And HE (Messiah) shall make a covenant (Isa. 55:1-3) with the many (people, tongues, nations and kings) for one week (Passion week) and in the midst of the week (Wednesday\Thursday Passover) HE (Messiah) shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease (IT IS FINISHED) and for overspreading the abominations (40 years continued sacrifices) HE shall make it (Holy City) desolate (void of sacrificing Jews) even until the consummation (70th week) and that determined (Gap) shall be poured upon the desolate (1967 Jews pour back into the Holy City). With eyes to see you can even identify the trigger for the 70th week in Dan. 9:27 "s". The abominations are plural in 9:27 but JESUS says abomination singular. HE is pointing to Dan. 12:11 which KJV in error adds "sacrifice" when it was already in the verse sitting there "abomination". There will be no Temple built, no peace treaty and no anti-christ sitting as god on the Temple Mt. Ezek. 28 the Prince of Tyre did everything the son of perdition will do without a Temple and the same satan was the culprit. Ezra 3 sacrifices were preformed with just an altar built.