The most intense duel in the history of women's gymnastic. The floor routine from Daniela was a 10+. Besides the final scores, both represented a duel of artistry & grace versus technicality & precision. Both were winners!

@denig2000able

Ай бұрын

The best final ever 100%. I was glued to the tv. Routing for Daniela.

A great battle between silivas and shushunova

RIP Elena Shushunova

Daniela Silivas was so ahead of her time then! We're STILL seeing ladies compete her eponymous "Silivas" FX skill- the incredible double twisting double salto tucked!

@patpat446

5 ай бұрын

Done first by Alevtina Prakhina at the Europeans in 1987.

I liked Shushunova and Silivas. They were so great 😃

@user-pz8lf2fr8x

2 жыл бұрын

Прическа,не,тачу,силиваш,она,ведь,молода,для,таких,причёсок,

I am sad to know that the best Russian gymnast of the 1988 Olympics died at the age of 49 because of acute pneumonia. she was a star : Yelena Shushunova

@daisyw2085

2 жыл бұрын

She is my favorite of all times besides Nadia .. so sad she left us that young, will never be forgotten, a true gymnastic Queen 👸!

@JustJason1977

Жыл бұрын

OH MY GOD! I didn't know that! Jeez... Rest peacefully my dear :(

@saragrant9749

5 ай бұрын

Damn, it just proves you never know when you’re going to go.

@alicemcfarlane9717

2 ай бұрын

Apparently, her life was very sad & empty after the Olympics. After dedicating her entire life to gymnastics, there was nowhere left to go.

@relutmaxim5425

Ай бұрын

....și la noi in Romania.... copilul unei mari,,Gimnaste,,...a decedat...... LAVINIA MILOȘOVICI 🙏🙏🙏......

Any time I see a gymnast start running I get all excited because I know that my jaw is about to drop. I'm not much for watching most "sports," but gymnastics never get old!

Советская школа гимнастики лучшая в мире!

@dennandrian9854

2 жыл бұрын

Benar

@saragrant9749

3 ай бұрын

The best at horrible abuse, influencing scores in their favor, making a mockery of the sport and its integrity in terms of equal treatment of athletes? Absolutely.

11:52. I was so impressed when I saw this at the time. Shushunova was a great champion. RIP 🙏

So graceful and so beautiful, I wouldn't want to choose one over the other. Thank you for the upload x

These routines were about difficulty and agility, now they are about difficulty and power. No grace left.

Great competition between Silivas and Shushunova

It was great great having Mary Lou's commentary here(the 'wonder woman' of 1984).I miss the 1980s!

just watched my original VHS tape incredibule depth below the two on top RIP Elena Shushunova

El mejor duelo de la historia de la gimnasia artística, nunca habra alfo similar

Daniela Silivas so amazing and powerful ahead of her time , 2022 and gymnasts still use her moves

RIP Elana S.

I liked this style because they let the pictures tell the story.

gracias x subir el mejor duelo de la historia de la gimnasia

Mary Lou Retton’s contribution to commentary gets a 0.

@lacypierce6487

3 ай бұрын

She didn’t even contribute that much, either.

@markb7163

2 ай бұрын

Agreed...can't stand listening to her! Like nails on a chalkboard!

Bogi was so excellent here. I wish she was competing at 1984 or 1992 level instead, she'd have an easier go for gold. Here unless Silivas or Shushunova fell flat on their face (which was insanely unlikely), she'd always be third.

@christineharrelson4831

3 жыл бұрын

Bogi was 11 in 1984 and not even a senior yet.

@adrianj.k.4032

3 жыл бұрын

@@christineharrelson4831 I said 1984 or 1992 level, not literally in 1984. Had the level of competition not as high as 1988 she would’ve had a better shot at gold.

@volodymyrdolia6544

2 жыл бұрын

At 1984 level for sure, but even in her prime Bogi didn't have the difficulty to compete with both Miller and Gutsu. Gymnasts were throwing double layouts on Floor and full-in on Beam. And Gutsu's beam was a decade ahead of her time. So not a single chance for Boginskaya, except big falls from several competitors.

It was the time of pleiad of excellent gymnasts: Shoushounova, Boginskaya, Silivas, Dobre, Szabo, Henrietta Onodi, Dörte Thümmler, Potorac, Dagmar Kersten; in male events: Artemov, Bilozerchev, Liukin (father of Nastia Liukin), Andreas Wecker, Yuko Iketani, Marius Gherman, Yuri Cecchi... Today we have no big name, except Simone Biles, Nile Wilson, Igor Radivilov and Sam Mikulak.

@saragrant9749

Жыл бұрын

It was the time of grossly biased judging. 10’s being thrown for completely undeserving routines, others being ridiculously underscored to keep them out of a medal. Good riddance to that time.

@kameliehagen

7 ай бұрын

Et Mustafina ?????? Elle a fait ce que Biles ne fera jamais : être première des qualifications por le AA et les 4 finales

@saragrant9749

3 ай бұрын

@@kameliehagenand how many GOLD medals did she win? Right, ONE. Simone won THREE in one Olympics on her own! Simone doesn’t have to qualify first in every event, she makes sure it counts at the RIGHT time.

thank you for uploading ! Is Oksana Omelianchik @11.02?

@kentiemacgymnastics9885

3 жыл бұрын

It sure is! She was the alternate for the team. In some other parts of the meet, you can see her interacting with the team on the floor.

Rest in peace Elena Shushunova ♥️🤸🏼‍♀️

shushunova queen

So beautiful 👏🏻both deserve the gold medal 🥇 it was so close battle between both girls

Why there was Romanian judge and no Russian judge???? But still good karma struck to Elena she won the all round champ.

.....ce sacrificii sau făcut.... datorită acestor sportivi sau ce sacrificii au făcut acesti sportivi sa ne iubim in ciuda tuturor problemelor : cotidiene,politice,etc.....🥇🥇🥇🙋💐💐💐💐💐

Muy merecido 🎉🎉🎉te amo Yelena

Silivas was such a tumbling goddess. She is perfection. I think she deserved that 10 on floor.

All around final featuring two gymnast 😂

@Cmc995

Ай бұрын

Right, i wonder if there is any other broadcast that shows more of the gymnasts 😅🤦🏻‍♂️

So sad! I remember when she was young! But never forget Daniela ❤

@saragrant9749

3 ай бұрын

Right? 49 is too damn young, but it just shows you never know when your time will come.

@alicemcfarlane9717

2 ай бұрын

​@saragrant9749 Yelena died young because she lacked an exit strategy. It was a familiar tale for many elite Soviet gymnasts... indeed, for many elite athletes full stop. Beyond coaching & commentating, there really werent that many options for a happy, fulfilling life after gymnastics. It was (& still is) the cost of complete dedication.

Шушунова лучшая!Однозначно!

@user-ch6le5cj6p

2 жыл бұрын

У Шушуновой вольные сложнее, элемент даже назван ее именем, который она тогда показала

@rosine8528

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

@paulagiliberto7386

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think so

"She is very attractive 15 yo".... My Gawd, that was horrible to listen .

@chicklit8604

3 ай бұрын

Bonginskaya she is so pretty.

Did Shushunova ever speak of her gymnastic career? Did her teammates speak of training/competing with her? I've never heard anything.

@alicemcfarlane9717

2 ай бұрын

Elena had a very sad, unhappy existence after gymnastics. The Soviet system kept her alcoholic decline very hushed up. However, her early demise should speak for itself. There simply wasn't anything left for her after gymnastics. It's a common plight for elite athletes: life AFTER.

Who was the male athlete about to be interviewed at 46:11?

God, I miss the 80s... 😢

Silivas was completely underscored by Nellie on vault. A 9.8? Lol

@chitownlokito

3 жыл бұрын

Did you see that too? Lol. Sha was hating and knew Sikivas was going to win so shendid what it has been done a lot by the Russian federation

@amandine2239

2 жыл бұрын

@@chitownlokito To obtain the final mark the highest and lowest scores are droped. So Kim’s score didnt count.

@cullerjones

6 ай бұрын

Her vaulting is garbage. Honestly that is the score she deserved from all the judges. If an American or Bulgarian did that same vault they get a 9.7 at best. If the Soviet judge didn't stupidly give a higher score to the 2nd vault which was even worse, there wouldn't be anything to talk about. Lastly even if Nellie gave the same generous 9.9 two other judges also gave, the score of 9.95 is still the same. Nothing changes.

@MagicalMukhina

6 ай бұрын

Agreed - Silivas was underscored - but then not really a surprise as Nellie was not a woman of integrity (in my view!)

@thesovgc

2 ай бұрын

Nelli is such an icon for such an unabashed attempt at cheating 😍

Alguns jurados davam nota 10 mesmo com erros visíveis. A saída d trave da shushunova por exemplo

Yelena Shushunova ,Por siempre Grande!!! Admirable tu fuerza en cada una de tus rutinas,a casi 2 años de tu partida , dejaste huella imborrable !!! Bendiciones 🙏 para tí,dónde quiera te encuentres.✨👌 Gracias hermosa Yelena Shushunova ✨👍🌹👏👏👏👏🌹👏👏👏🌹👏👏❤️

With the current scoring code, shushunova would have won with a huge advantage.

Shushunova was the best!!!

Silivas the best!!!😍😍😍

Silivas should have won or results were tied. It was neli kim from USSR gave a 9.8 to silivas in the vault. Look at what happened in the individual apparatus finals, silivas got 3 golds... lol

@grumpyduck5712

3 жыл бұрын

Nelli was petty for giving Silivas a 9.8, but her score wasn't counted there. Out of the six judges, the highest and lowest scores were eliminated and the middle four was rounded up, which gave Silivas her score. Still, she should've won.

@cullerjones

6 ай бұрын

@@grumpyduck5712 She didn't deserve to win. 9.95 is too high for her on vault. And she messed up beam, where she should have an advantage on Shushunova but blew it this day. Bela Karolyi who LOVES Silivas, and is her former coach, even said "she made 3 major wobbles on beam in front of the whole world and deserved a 9.8 max. Her 9.9 was a disgrace." Nuff said.

Duo rivalries usr elena shushunova and svetlana boginskaya. And roumania daniela silivas with aurelia dobre.

Nelli Kim , I always admired your gymnastic and your commitment to gymnastic as a judge. I always loved 1988 olympic they made me fall in love with the sport. But honestly I never watch carefully... you gave a 9.8 to her first vault to make sure she would not have eaten then give a 9.9 to a less perfect one!!! shame on you. hope to this day you feel ashamed to crushed the dream ... I understand it was surely not easy probably pressed bu higher authority but honestly hope you can apology one day

Wait sorry how did Yelena’s beam routine get 2 10s? Did I read that wrong?

Cannot understand how Biles cannot stick a vault landing and goes out of bounds on floor yet she scores higher than other gymnasts that stick their landings after performing very well on the apparatus. I respect Biles but I still am not much of a fan of the "powerhouse" gymnastics.

Шушунова, Богинская - гениальные гимнастки, не то что современные робот-машины мельникова, байлз, смотреть на последних совсем не интересно.

"Let's not forget this very attractive 15 year-old.." 🤢

@ChloeVonTrapp

Жыл бұрын

Came here for this comment. What a creep!

It was

Silivas best ever!...

This is the wor see e coverage of any gymnastics event they barely showed any routines

Damn, the Romanians were trying to freak out Shushunova during her vault. That was kinda cheap.

@Brancoveanu450

Ай бұрын

That was one of her teammates. Listen to the commentary Plus you can see Elenas performances after. Couple of the podium, with major mistakes. Never done by an olympic champion

I love Silivas, she is more artistic and remarkable! She just a slight lost, otherwise she could’ve won...

9.8 from the Soviet judge for Silivas on the vault. Enough said…😤

@TheMajesticice01

2 жыл бұрын

She was definitely a hater! Her second vault she gave her a higher score

@masonlovesroblox

10 ай бұрын

it was on purpose. nellie kim wanted shushunova to win. it was obvious, that first vault was 9.9 MINIMUM.

@cullerjones

6 ай бұрын

Her vaulting is garbage. Honestly that is the score she deserved from all the judges. If an American or Bulgarian did that same vault they get a 9.7 at best. If the Soviet judge didn't stupidly give a higher score to the 2nd vault which was even worse, there wouldn't be anything to talk about.

@cullerjones

6 ай бұрын

@@masonlovesroblox If a Bulgarian or American did that vault they would get a 9.7 max. It was Silivas's very best, but she isn't a good vaulter. Her vault scores are only by her name, just like Shushunova's beam scores to some extent.

@davidnamaste3124

3 ай бұрын

@@TheMajesticice01 ridiculous

God is there any other gymnasts that were at these Olympics? How unfair to the others who works so hard.

Silivas should had won. RUSSIA back then had power over the scores but this was definitely Silivas Good medal. Just like Zsabo should had won over Mary Lou. They were both were over scored. Yeah Mary Lou, zsabo took one step and you took 20. The Romania’s were the true winners..🥇

@TheMajesticice01

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure because she fell off the bars!

The Big Red Machine - the Soviet Union Team's nick name!

Nelli kim couldn't really be more blatant could she 9.8 I think not

@davidnamaste3124

3 ай бұрын

ridiculous she should apologies

Svetlana Boginskaya, Simone Biles, Daniella Silivas....BEST GYMNASTS EVER!

En el ultimo aparato , no me pareció un 10 para shushunova .....

@batifay2830

3 жыл бұрын

y Silivas en asimetricas tampoco, que cae flexionada y los pies separados.

@denisripeanu3325

3 жыл бұрын

@@batifay2830 y que quierias ...que se cae con los pies rectos , o que...???....tu sabes de que estas hablando !!??

@batifay2830

3 жыл бұрын

@@denisripeanu3325 pues sí, sí sé de lo que hablo.

@denisripeanu3325

3 жыл бұрын

@@batifay2830 pues , yo diria que NO , tras leer tu comentario......mi opinión!!!

@beanovofilgueira1584

3 жыл бұрын

Sólo tienes que ver cómo Silvas baja la cabeza ,al ver el salto , sabía que tenía el 10 antes de dárselo

Como en cualquier cosa....el político pasa por encima de todo.......10 significa perfección.....aqui se han dado notas de 10 ...pero de perfección NADA. MI OPINIÓN

i didn.t see any battle. silivas absolutely superior to shoushunova who had the support of the jugdes such as Nelly Kim kim ( she was under comnaneci)

@Brancoveanu450

Ай бұрын

Absolutely

Queen Silivas 👑 y luego el resto

Shusunova such like robot

@juarezpessoa1398

3 жыл бұрын

Shoushouna is really an Diva e deserved the win.

Shushunova was beautiful and awesome but am I the only one who thinks Silivas should've have it? Nellie Kim being a judge and giving Silivas a 9.8 was a conflict of interest and we've seen how slithery nellie can be

Reyna silivas

USSR and the power of dopping

les juges donnaient trop de 10 à l epoque c etait n importe quoi

@Thebraids

3 жыл бұрын

Effectivement, et les juges favorisaient certaines nations (l'URSS, la Roumanie et la RDA). Cela ne favorisait pas la crédibilité du sport.

MLR is so annoying talking about herself constantly ughhhhhh

@christineharrelson4831

3 жыл бұрын

Hah yeah she's pretty into herself. Still is to this day.

@lacypierce6487

3 ай бұрын

She sounds like Minnie Mouse, too

Fu Kim, fu Elena and fu Mary Lou. All over scored. The Gold was for Silivas. The a Russian were corrupted still at that time.

No offense to Elena Shushnova's memory, but I think Daniela Silivas was robbed. I thought so when I watched this event live back in 1988 and still think so today.

@Brancoveanu450

Ай бұрын

Totally

daniela was robbed

@unknown-lf6zx

6 ай бұрын

She was amazing! They both were but she’ll always be my favorite gymnast! Gurl even rocked a perm and a robot move!

Silivas was obviously robbed!