1987 OnRoad 4WD Comparo | Retro Review

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In this 80's rumble we have the Mercury Topaz LS AWD, Subaru GL-10 Turbo, Volkswagen Vanagon Syncro, Honda Civic Wagon 4x4, Audi 5000 CS Quattro

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  • @rorycahill
    @rorycahill5 жыл бұрын

    "An automatic is not available". Such a beautiful sentence...

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    4 жыл бұрын

    That is great for some enthusiasts, but not for normies.

  • @coastaku1954

    @coastaku1954

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jeffel80 Yep, we found the old fart! Ever driven a modern Manual? I was trying out my cousins 2016 (I think) Civic sport and the clutch was so light that I barely even noticed it. Plus a 2 speed is HORRIBLY inefficient, slow, and outdated. At that point you might as well go for a CVT or in your speak, a Dynaflow.

  • @bradnimbus4836

    @bradnimbus4836

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coastaku1954 Looks like we found the weeb! Remember when people didn't take everything so literal?

  • @coastaku1954

    @coastaku1954

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@bradnimbus4836 Actually I'm not a weeb, I haven't watched enough Anime for me to consider my self one. And what part of his comment wasn't serious?

  • @bradnimbus4836

    @bradnimbus4836

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@coastaku1954 lol, You're not the sharpest bulb in the drawer, are ya?

  • @ggroff73
    @ggroff734 жыл бұрын

    Am I the only one who grew up in the 80's who gets caught up watching these?

  • @illinoisbanks1470

    @illinoisbanks1470

    2 жыл бұрын

    No

  • @slicaltimistic1

    @slicaltimistic1

    Жыл бұрын

    😁You not by yourself.

  • @chrisgnonya

    @chrisgnonya

    Жыл бұрын

    A nice reminder of a better time 🙂

  • @rnvsinha
    @rnvsinha4 жыл бұрын

    I love how Japanese automakers back then just had so much money that their cars had everything. Turbos, 4wd, digital dashboard etc.

  • @rileyfreeman2875

    @rileyfreeman2875

    4 жыл бұрын

    Well... Japanese cars always had a bunch of Gimmicks and quirks.

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    4 жыл бұрын

    You should look up some videos of the 1980s Nissan Cedric and Gloria. Toyota made something just as big and fancy. Those cars had more extra equipment then Cadillacs did.

  • @ZX3000GT1

    @ZX3000GT1

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's what the 80s economy bubble did to Japan.

  • @RockandrollNegro

    @RockandrollNegro

    2 жыл бұрын

    You have to also consider the fact that Japanese imports always cost more than the equivalent Big Three model, even though they were much less expensive to produce. For example, the 1988 Ford Escort base model was priced at $6300 while the base Corolla was $10,831. Ford made approximately $200 off every Escort sold while Toyota made around $2,000 on every Corolla and $1600 on every Camry. Everyone remotely in touch with the auto industry at the time saw that the Big Three were being slaughtered by their management, the NHSA, the EPA, the UAW and an ambivalent public that felt safer spending more money on a Japanese import than a domestic car. The amount of money Japan was raking in on their imports was obscene; the profit margin on every Corolla, Civic, Accord and Camry sold was higher than the most profitable automobile in history at that time, the Ford Model T. So to help justify this insane markup, the JDM Big Four (Toyota, Honda, Nissan & Mitsubishi) began sticking kooky digital electronics that cost them almost nothing to have manufactured by Yamaha, Hitachi or Casio, or equipping their cars with features that they liberated off their European/American partnerships. For example: The 4x4 system used on the Honda Civic was borrowed from the Rover 200, the one on the Subaru was licensed from Nissan, who purchased the tooling from AMC. The turbo used on the Subaru GL-10 was a carbon copy of the unit used on the Corvair Monza, down to the screw threads, powering an engine illegally copied from the Porsche and Renault Boxers. The Subaru digital instrument cluster was reverse engineered from the Aston Martin Lancia, and the Honda digital dashes were sublicensed from Mazda, who licensed them from Ford. (Same with airbags; Ford created the most reliable airbag design in the 1980s and was having it manufactured by the Mazda plant in Mexico, and was selling airbag units to Honda, Toyota, Hyundai and Kia, as Japan lacked the mechanical precision needed to reliably manufacture them. As soon as Japan began making their own airbags, they were notoriously poor quality and still are; just google "Takata airbag recall") As you can see, Japan didn't spend much money on R&D, they just waited for the US to develop the technology and then copied it and manufactured it cheaply. Ironically, today Japan is the innovator that is being undersold by cheaper Asian labor, as whatever billions of dollars they put into research and development just gets reverse engineered by China who builds it and sells it cheaper than Japan or the West ever could. It's the circle of life. I wouldn't worry too much though. Being commies, China will never innovate, as there's no reason to. They'll just gradually implode into capitalism like Russia did. South Korea and SE Asia are who we need to keep an eye on.

  • @rodmunch69

    @rodmunch69

    2 жыл бұрын

    That was the deal with the Japanese, if they weren't buying used panties from vending machines, or assaulting women on the subway, they were Pearl Harboring the American auto industry.

  • @MrSdotbowman
    @MrSdotbowman4 жыл бұрын

    My mom had a AWD 91 topaz. It was a soft robins egg blue. I remember that little car trooping through that NY snow. It was a good car for her for a long long time.

  • @snakehandler87
    @snakehandler875 жыл бұрын

    These retro reviews are the best

  • @justinvasko3577
    @justinvasko35775 жыл бұрын

    Holy shit. I never knew there was an AWD Tempo/Topaz!

  • @robsrandomness7824

    @robsrandomness7824

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, they were real popular. LOL

  • @hank1556

    @hank1556

    5 жыл бұрын

    me neither. I bet its crazy rare today!

  • @black98rt

    @black98rt

    5 жыл бұрын

    I always wanted to do an SVT awd tempo with the turbo 2.3. Nobody would expect that lol

  • @apollogeerman9078

    @apollogeerman9078

    5 жыл бұрын

    They were very slow

  • @drivecfl

    @drivecfl

    5 жыл бұрын

    The 0-60 times are unreal. 15 seconds to 60. You could get to 60 2.5 to 3 times with some of today's cars in 15 seconds that are not considering hardcore sports or muscle cars.

  • @johnfarel3152
    @johnfarel31522 жыл бұрын

    That Subaru was loaded. Push button suspension lift in that era had to be pretty rare-never mind that it was for a sedan. 15000 in ‘87 equals about what you’d pay for the Forster wilderness today.

  • @rturner4205

    @rturner4205

    Жыл бұрын

    You'd pay the 2001 equivalent of $39000 for a Forester S with the premium package. And it's about the same as a Forester Touring. (Source, I work for a dealership, and own said 2001 Forester)

  • @hank1556
    @hank15565 жыл бұрын

    I simply can't get enough of these retro, 80s, cheesebox car reviews!

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    Yee yee!!

  • @12ealDealOfficial
    @12ealDealOfficial3 жыл бұрын

    The way John Davis speaks is a personal goal of mine. Gentleman is so darn articulate!

  • @saturn0660
    @saturn06605 жыл бұрын

    I remember when my mom bought her 1989 Merc Topaz.. I tried and tired to get her to buy the awd.. Knowing that it would be mine in 4 years. She didn't bite.

  • @joshseiter8526

    @joshseiter8526

    5 жыл бұрын

    Awwww super gay story

  • @jeffmorse645

    @jeffmorse645

    4 жыл бұрын

    My mom had a 1989 Mercury Topaz. I begged my parents to get a Camry or Accord, but "Ford man" dad wouldn't bite. What an awful car the Topaz was.

  • @rodmunch69

    @rodmunch69

    2 жыл бұрын

    I can't believe anyone would admit to buying, or even wanting, a Topaz. It was truly an awful car, just ugly, and more ugly, stacked on top of ugly. Even at the time it was a hideous car, and now, it's one of the worst looking cars from that generation.

  • @adamwilling2457
    @adamwilling24575 жыл бұрын

    0-60 in 10.3 brisk. Oh the 80's.

  • @ibdustin15

    @ibdustin15

    5 жыл бұрын

    Adam Willing now a car does 0-60 in 9 seconds and people say it’s unsafe to merge onto a highway lol.

  • @aaronbays4

    @aaronbays4

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@ibdustin15 Speed limit was 55mph back in the 1980's, speeds were much slower then. Now days traffic moves at 70-80mph in my neck of the woods, go to some parts of Texas and traffic moves at 85-90mph.

  • @ibdustin15

    @ibdustin15

    5 жыл бұрын

    Aaron Bays I’m a local class A driver. I promise if I can merge a 70 foot vehicle that does 60 in 25 seconds you can do it in a car.

  • 5 жыл бұрын

    @@ibdustin15 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

  • @CeeStyleDj

    @CeeStyleDj

    5 жыл бұрын

    Did you keep watching the video? How about the 0 to 60 on VW Van? Lol. Cool looking vehicle though. Btw- 10 sec 0-60 was pretty normal back then.

  • @4-LOW
    @4-LOW5 жыл бұрын

    1987...when a "high-output" engine netted you 100 horsepower. :D

  • @alexyoungberg5232

    @alexyoungberg5232

    5 жыл бұрын

    And an AWD turbo 5 cyl goes 0-60 in 9.5 seconds 😂😂

  • @Nobody-xh5qe

    @Nobody-xh5qe

    5 жыл бұрын

    Lmao hell ya

  • @justinluttrell1769

    @justinluttrell1769

    5 жыл бұрын

    1967: when a 289 V8 in a Mustang made 276hp and did 0-60 in mid 5 second range without even fuel injection, according to Car&Driver. Even in '87 the Mustang had 225hp and 300lbft and did 0-60 in 6.5. I think the '80s was just a really, really shitty era for compact cars.

  • @moejr1974

    @moejr1974

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@justinluttrell1769 There was alot of BS in those 60's road tests. Trust me that 289 Stang didn't do mid 5's 0-60

  • @RockandrollNegro

    @RockandrollNegro

    5 жыл бұрын

    That was about right. Compared to the Honda (73 hp and 740 pounds heavier) that was a pretty speedy little Tempo.

  • @JosephByrne
    @JosephByrne4 жыл бұрын

    A car show about cars and not clowns. I miss those days.

  • @iLXR2
    @iLXR25 жыл бұрын

    RIP AMC Eagle.

  • @zanesutherland406
    @zanesutherland4064 жыл бұрын

    I own an ‘87 Ford Tempo sedan with AWD 😀

  • @Rampant_Colt

    @Rampant_Colt

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry

  • @pcwizzy460

    @pcwizzy460

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sweet!

  • @rodmunch69

    @rodmunch69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that's got to be worth $200, maybe $220. Congrats.

  • @JeffKing310

    @JeffKing310

    2 ай бұрын

    Do you still have it?

  • @6.thedollar415
    @6.thedollar4155 жыл бұрын

    Back when speedometers had a [55] on them.

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    5 жыл бұрын

    I only remember seeing them on American cars. I don't recall any kind of Datsun/Nissan Maxima having one for example.

  • @AWDfreak

    @AWDfreak

    5 жыл бұрын

    My auntie's old 3rd generation Honda Civic sedan (which didn't even feature a passenger-side mirror) had that quirk. Back when all roads in the USA had speed limits no more than 55 MPH...

  • @CenobiteBeldar

    @CenobiteBeldar

    5 жыл бұрын

    And I'm sure had to be calibrated somewhere.

  • @matt9759

    @matt9759

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even my 1995 Taurus has the 55 highlighted hahaha

  • @pcwizzy460

    @pcwizzy460

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@matt9759 1995 was the last year of it.

  • @seththomas9105
    @seththomas91055 жыл бұрын

    In the mid Eighties we were just glad to have a temp. gauge back, never mind a volt/amp. or oil pressure. Idiot lights from the late Sixties and Seventies died a hard death with American auto makers.

  • @wiibaron

    @wiibaron

    5 жыл бұрын

    Not Mopars...

  • @eriklarson9137

    @eriklarson9137

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@wiibaron Correct. Mopars were pure garbage way before the 80s.

  • @engineer_alv

    @engineer_alv

    4 жыл бұрын

    My 1984 Nissan 720 4x4 had oil pressure and volt meter gauges. Today's cars are worse, my MIL's Outback doesn't have a temp gauge, neither my mom's Mazda

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    4 жыл бұрын

    I remember the 1985 Nissan Maxima having a volt meter back then. It didn't really help, what would have helped is a reliable electrical system. The 1985, 86, and some of the other early FWD Maximas were constantly destroying their batteries and alternators due to flawed design.

  • @mcearl8073

    @mcearl8073

    4 жыл бұрын

    They didn't die as much as they changed form to make people think they have a gauge. A lot of gauges are just dummy lights in disguise. They really only have two readings, where a light would be off the gauge reads normal, when the dummy light would be on the gauge would read maxed out. They are dummy gauges basically

  • @apl175
    @apl1755 жыл бұрын

    5:32 you can hear the air pump running for the "ELECTRO-PNEUMATIC SUSPENSION with HEIGHT CONTROL"

  • @tonyrichards254
    @tonyrichards2545 жыл бұрын

    They were still making the best of the original on-road 4x4 cars, the AMC Eagle.

  • @eriklarson9137

    @eriklarson9137

    5 жыл бұрын

    wat. The subaru's were 4x4 in 72. The Eagle didn't come around until 79. Nice try tho.

  • @tonyrichards254

    @tonyrichards254

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eriklarson9137 Eagles were full-time AWD from the start, on- or off-road. Shift-on-the-fly came shortly thereafter. At the same time, Subarus were tin cans with a manual, part-time 4x4 system. The Eagle was a more complete package, and a better car. It had more of the characteristics of a modern crossover earlier than any other model.

  • @kevinwong6588

    @kevinwong6588

    4 жыл бұрын

    By '87 Eagle sales were low, basically "made-to-order" from the factory in Brampton. Less than 5,000 in the model year, plus 2,306 1988 Wagons rushed out to finish off existing inventory.

  • @kevinwong6588

    @kevinwong6588

    4 жыл бұрын

    1980 (first year) was full time, '81-84 manual shift case, full shift on fly in '85-88.

  • @tomasnokechtesledger1786

    @tomasnokechtesledger1786

    4 жыл бұрын

    Commanche and Grand Wagoneer.

  • @CenobiteBeldar
    @CenobiteBeldar5 жыл бұрын

    Man, I really like that Audi and the Subaru.

  • @yuriypodgorniak2728
    @yuriypodgorniak27283 жыл бұрын

    I always loved retro MotorWeek!!! Cars of that era for me personally a lot more interesting than the new cars

  • @stephendrivick840
    @stephendrivick8405 жыл бұрын

    Holy Body Roll! Remember when cars used to heave around like that? :)

  • @JDMHaze

    @JDMHaze

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stephen Drivick lol

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    4 жыл бұрын

    I especially remember the Dodge Caravan being bad.

  • @CeeStyleDj
    @CeeStyleDj5 жыл бұрын

    Was surprised how well that little topaz handled! Was not expecting that.

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    I had the Tempo, well 2 of them actually. I had a 91 and a 93...unfortunately too new to have the AWD option, but they handled great in all weather conditions, and got great fuel economy even with the 3 speed automatic. I wish I would have kept them...I wish I could find an AWD model now though, but they're pretty hard to find and usually trashed unfortunately when you do find them.

  • @jamesmorgan3212
    @jamesmorgan32124 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t seen a tempo or topaz In forever. I can’t even remember the last time I saw one . When I was a kid they where everywhere.

  • @marshalmagooo3899

    @marshalmagooo3899

    4 жыл бұрын

    Had a co worker who replaced almost every part on the Tempo...it did run though

  • @gary19222

    @gary19222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sad...they're all in the junkyard or maybe Mexico?

  • @BokBarber
    @BokBarber3 жыл бұрын

    1987: The "giant" Audi 5000 cs turbo quattro weighs 2844 pounds. 2020: The smallest US Audi offering, the A3, is 3197 pounds in its lightest configuration.

  • @nobodynoone2500

    @nobodynoone2500

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup. Blame government standards and distracted drivers making them nessarry.

  • @rodmunch69

    @rodmunch69

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, it's called the government telling automakers what their 'safety' standards need to be. It's why all cars are so big and heavy now. Side impact, front impact, rear impact, roll over protection, dual airbags, side impact airbags, etc etc etc. To me, I wonder how many accidents could have been avoided had people had smaller and lighter cars where they'd be able to maneuver out of situations. At the same time with the giant SUVs you have everywhere, and considering women are driving most of them, you need safety features if you expect to survive some dumb house wife running over your sports car in her Escalade XL because she was doing her makeup in the mirror.

  • @CesarAbeid
    @CesarAbeid5 жыл бұрын

    Holy crap, the underside of that Topaz looks like it's 20 years old already.

  • @anibalbabilonia1867

    @anibalbabilonia1867

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what i was going to say!👋🤣👍

  • @manthony225

    @manthony225

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ikr Why is there rust already?

  • @will2993

    @will2993

    5 жыл бұрын

    Driveshafts usually look like that, even on rust free cars

  • @MrMike95113

    @MrMike95113

    5 жыл бұрын

    Like what will2993 said...Also the show was shot in Maryland. I'm sure that east coast weather had something to do with it as well.

  • @CenobiteBeldar

    @CenobiteBeldar

    5 жыл бұрын

    I was going to say the same thing. Why does that drive shaft have a rusty color look to it?

  • @SANYUR
    @SANYUR5 жыл бұрын

    I remember Pontiac had an AWD Sedan the 6000 87 or 88

  • @toussantlbisso

    @toussantlbisso

    5 жыл бұрын

    Was'nt four wheel steering also available from Pontiac ?

  • @HWolfeIII

    @HWolfeIII

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pontiac 6000 STE Great car. They were popular, but apparently the decision was made to keep 4WD on SUV's, probably bigger profit margin

  • @jeffsfleet
    @jeffsfleet5 жыл бұрын

    Ahh, the days of the 20 second quarter mile times.

  • @lancetheb.m.c

    @lancetheb.m.c

    5 жыл бұрын

    And that was considered "fast" back then....

  • @JDMHaze
    @JDMHaze5 жыл бұрын

    subaru was a whole 4 secs faster than the topaz lol... dam and i didnt even know they made a AWD topaz lol

  • @ggroff73

    @ggroff73

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was as shocked as you, I never knew they made an AWD Topaz..🤔

  • @engineer_alv

    @engineer_alv

    4 жыл бұрын

    The 3 spd auto bogged down the Tempo AWD, too bad it couldn't be optioned with the 5 spd, since those GLS coupes were fairly quick at the time. The Subaru would have added at least 1 second if it also had an automatic transmission. Then there's the Turbo and less weight compared to the Ford.

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was an option for a few years, up until 1991...but most people never optioned their Tempos or Topazs with the AWD because that cut into their cigarette/beer budget. Sadly most of the AWD models have long been trashed and gone, I'd love to get a hold of one. I've owned 2 Tempos a 91 and a 93. Miss them both. They're not fast, but they did get pretty good fuel economy...I managed 41mpg in my 93 Tempo on a 300 mile trip, and that was on the freeway with the AC going, I was surprised when I got home and checked the fuel economy and found that 40+mpg number...and it was with the 3 speed automatic, which impressed me even more...didn't know those cars would get that kind of fuel economy....although it probably helped that my 93 Tempo was in excellent condition inside and out and very well maintained by the previous owner and myself. Really should have kept that car. My 91 Tempo was given to me because the lady just wanted it off her property. I drove it for about a year before the head gasket blew, and my terrible idea of trying to fix it myself went south :(.

  • @JDMHaze

    @JDMHaze

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wildbill23c It's impressive for a 3 speed That is phenomenal mpg ,

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@JDMHaze I agree, course back then there wasn't much to a vehicle, nothing like all the electronic gadgets and nannies in today's cars that struggle to get 20mpg and 10 speed automatic transmissions LOL. If I recall the car only had like 93HP but it cruised right on down the freeway just as anything built today would do. The trunk was huge for the size of the car, it was comfortable, it was simple, and it worked. I miss that car. It had power windows and locks that was about as fancy as it was...I did upgrade the radio in it to one that played CD's but otherwise I kept it like it was...the factory radio had a short in it was the only reason I replaced it, and it was only AM/FM didn't even have the cassette player option LOL.

  • @FLJAMESFL
    @FLJAMESFL5 жыл бұрын

    The Honda always cracked me up with the option of a passenger side mirror.

  • @ggroff73

    @ggroff73

    4 жыл бұрын

    😂😂😂😂

  • @juliogonzo2718

    @juliogonzo2718

    4 жыл бұрын

    Buddy of mine had a Mazda 323. It only had one mirror

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    4 жыл бұрын

    I once worked on a Saturn SL1 that had only one mirror. I'm not sure when all cars got a passenger side mirror in the USA.

  • @tonij4073

    @tonij4073

    4 жыл бұрын

    😆

  • @kd7cwg

    @kd7cwg

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ford did that too!

  • @fhantazm
    @fhantazm4 жыл бұрын

    12:09. The mob on their way to give someone a pair of cement shoes.

  • @freddyhollingsworth5945
    @freddyhollingsworth59454 жыл бұрын

    My Aunt had a 1986 Topaz 2x4 diesel and she was getting 45mpg overall avg out of a 1986 4Dr car with a big trunk, very impressive back then and still today. She got 52 mpg on the highway. We went to go get a Tempo Diesel in 1988, but Ford deleted the diesel engine by this time unfortunately.

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the diesel option was very short lived, and extremely rare to find one equipped with the diesel.

  • @therealjayseh

    @therealjayseh

    9 ай бұрын

    Those were Mazda Diesels I believe.

  • @wildbill23c
    @wildbill23c5 жыл бұрын

    Wish they'd bring the Syncro back.

  • @list3058
    @list30582 жыл бұрын

    I watched this show as a kid in the Eighties, seen these videos dozens of times. More retro reviews, please!

  • @wildbill9919
    @wildbill99194 жыл бұрын

    Back when cars had manual transmissions, had character, and were cool.

  • @lijoima
    @lijoima4 жыл бұрын

    Omg!! Look at that rust already on that diff at 1:57!! 😂😂

  • @tomj4731
    @tomj47315 жыл бұрын

    Love the Civic wagon with those big tall windows all around"

  • @LukesVintageRC
    @LukesVintageRC4 жыл бұрын

    “ the rear seats are comfortable for full size adults” meanwhile the guy looks sardined 😁

  • @josemontano7767
    @josemontano77675 жыл бұрын

    I had a 85 Tempo 5 speed, one of the best cars I ever owned, $5 gas would last me all week.

  • @gypsychris1031

    @gypsychris1031

    5 жыл бұрын

    I learned to drive with one..it was my sister's lol

  • @alfresco4976

    @alfresco4976

    5 жыл бұрын

    I still have a Tempo 5 speed and the plan is to never get rid of it!

  • @torotimemaster8983

    @torotimemaster8983

    5 жыл бұрын

    My mother had a 5 speed Tempo back in the day, she loved it.

  • @FawleyJude

    @FawleyJude

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had one also, it wasn't a bad car at all, for the price. I don't remember having to do much service on it and it was comfortable enough for long road trips. I finally sold it when it had 102,000 miles.

  • @eastpantherbenz

    @eastpantherbenz

    4 жыл бұрын

    I had an 87 Tempo in 1997, biggest POS I've ever owned!

  • @xxbonrockxx
    @xxbonrockxx4 жыл бұрын

    Man I love this channel!

  • @Johnny_Socko
    @Johnny_Socko5 жыл бұрын

    I'm enjoying people freaking out over the spare tire in the Subaru engine compartment. :P I guess I got used to it since my family & friends owned Subarus back then. Subaru used that configuration for about 10 years IIRC. Oh, and Subaru claimed that it actually *helped* with safety, because the tire would act as an additional impact absorber. [shrug] Regardless, Subies were some of the most capable cars that you could buy back then. Had their share of head gasket & timing belt issues (family experience), but man were they solidly put-together. Although the 1980-84-ish amber instrument cluster was the best, don't know why they dumbed-down the gauges after that (as seen in the video). Anyway, I remain impressed that MotorWeek is still going with John Davis & Pat Goss since frickin' 1981, when I first started watching as a kid! :O

  • @MrWolfSnack

    @MrWolfSnack

    3 жыл бұрын

    It wouldn't because it would just smash the dashboard and firewall into your legs and entrap you in the car.

  • @TombstoneChris
    @TombstoneChris5 жыл бұрын

    Cars back then sure did have a lot of places to hide your pot.

  • @nutsackmania

    @nutsackmania

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pot was more illlegaller in then so hide it

  • @rickdavid6758
    @rickdavid67584 жыл бұрын

    My grandparents bought a brand new 87 tempo AWD

  • @shigeolincolntaco
    @shigeolincolntaco4 жыл бұрын

    My mom had one of those awd topaz's thing was a fricken billy goat.

  • @NJW1973
    @NJW19734 жыл бұрын

    I had a buddy in high school who parents had a AWD Tempo. It was great in the snow. However, it was very slooooow.

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    You really don't need or want fast in the snow in the first place, that's why you see all the idiots in their 4x4's and AWD's off the sides of the roads in the ditches every time it snows LOL.

  • @jasona1599
    @jasona15995 жыл бұрын

    Gonna add the Topaz AWD to the (short) list of cars my 2015 Mitsubishi Mirage would smoke in the quarter mile!

  • @vee950
    @vee9504 жыл бұрын

    I like looking at old car videos like this as well as old movies it's fun taking a blast to the past technology and filming

  • @darringusko8539
    @darringusko85394 жыл бұрын

    $12,000 Topaz comes standard with a limited slip rear...my $44,500 Ranger has open cog with an optional e-locker..that I dont have.

  • @bullitt3980
    @bullitt39805 жыл бұрын

    We made a lot of money off selling wear parts for Tempos and Topaz's--I can still remember the part numbers for pads, rotors, wheel cylinders and exhaust.

  • @omartinoco9930

    @omartinoco9930

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yeah if that's all that was replaced i'd say it was a pretty good car.

  • @benscampers1818
    @benscampers18185 жыл бұрын

    People whining about the cars being bad - they were excellent for the time. The cars we think are good now will be lauged at in 30 years too.

  • @jsciarri

    @jsciarri

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'm already laughing at them now rolling off the showroom floor. Good luck trying to fix the many electronics that brand new cars have 20 years from now.

  • @Trance88

    @Trance88

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@jsciarri exactly! If anyone knows anything about computer technology is how fast it goes out of date!

  • @eriklarson9137

    @eriklarson9137

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well Ben either proved he's a union guy, or young. I was there. The cars form the big three were laughable compared to Honda and Toyota. This was the era when import sales skyrocketed. Drive an 88 topaz, then drive an 88 civic. If you can't tell the difference, there is no helping you.

  • @benscampers1818

    @benscampers1818

    5 жыл бұрын

    Erik Larson - nobody is arguing that the Topaz is better than a Civic - both foreign and domestic are featured in this video. Point is, all of them were state of the art for the time.

  • @tinkynine3351

    @tinkynine3351

    5 жыл бұрын

    Actually I see the opposite, with all these retro reviews. People are acting like we should still want cars like this.

  • @brianc5537
    @brianc55375 жыл бұрын

    The first gen tempo/topaz looked so much better than the 2nd gen. Too bad they're hard to find.

  • @CeeStyleDj

    @CeeStyleDj

    5 жыл бұрын

    That interior surprised me. Looked pretty good.

  • @zanesutherland406

    @zanesutherland406

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have an ‘87 AWD one I’m selling soon 😄

  • @energizer1036

    @energizer1036

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@zanesutherland406 sell it to me

  • @bernardyancey4467

    @bernardyancey4467

    3 жыл бұрын

    2gen for me

  • @csj9619

    @csj9619

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's funny bro!

  • @adamn7516
    @adamn75165 жыл бұрын

    The Toyota Tercel 4WD Wagon predates all these cars by 4 or 5 years, the exception being the Subie. The Toyota was a body 4 door wagon very similar to the Civic Wagon in design.

  • @EricFortuneJr.
    @EricFortuneJr.5 жыл бұрын

    “A 100 horsepower high output engine..”

  • @jamesnoble8205

    @jamesnoble8205

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nothing high about that output lol

  • @engineer_alv

    @engineer_alv

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@jamesnoble8205 it was a 16% power improvement compared to the regular 2.3 LOL

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp77425 жыл бұрын

    My favourite cars here are the Subaru GL-10 Turbo, the VW Vanagon Syncro, and the Audi 5000 CS Quattro. This was when cars were great. I'd buy any of these cars any day over what's being sold today.

  • @sudmuck

    @sudmuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    Me too! 80's & 90's cars are my world.

  • @MatrixDiscovery
    @MatrixDiscovery5 жыл бұрын

    Those were the good old days before the SUV's started to become a cancer to our roads.

  • @Tool0GT92

    @Tool0GT92

    5 жыл бұрын

    What's your problem with SUVs?

  • @eightosaurusspelunk1598

    @eightosaurusspelunk1598

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Tool0GT92 Are you serious?

  • @Tool0GT92

    @Tool0GT92

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@eightosaurusspelunk1598 Yes, why do people hate SUVs?

  • @H31MU7

    @H31MU7

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@Tool0GT92 I don't hate SUVs but I bet a lot of the crossovers in their new 2019 test are nowhere near as good off road than most of the clunkers in this video :)

  • @Tool0GT92

    @Tool0GT92

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@H31MU7 most people don't drive SUVs or crossovers to go off road. I have a crv for the spacious interior, ability to drive through snow, and I can pull my utility trailer. It gets reasonable fuel economy and it's very practical.

  • @4v3ng3r1987
    @4v3ng3r19875 жыл бұрын

    Cool. Never knew the Subaru had an air suspension available.

  • @DM-hw4cr

    @DM-hw4cr

    4 жыл бұрын

    Subaru xt did have air suspension

  • @davidkline4372

    @davidkline4372

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes. And they were crap. Once they failed, driving was like driving without any suspension at all and they were very expensive to repair. We had a mechanic just covert our old subie wagon to a standard sick and strut set up to eliminate future headaches

  • @wiibaron
    @wiibaron5 жыл бұрын

    After all that, I'm Audi 5000...see you later.

  • @Mr_Chris77
    @Mr_Chris775 жыл бұрын

    Ah yes. The Mercury line. For those that are too rich for a Ford, too broke for a Lincoln.

  • @RockandrollNegro

    @RockandrollNegro

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Rampant_Colt actually, you didn't comprehend the OP's sentence. He clearly conveyed that the Mercury buyer had more money than a Ford buyer, but not as much money as a Lincoln buyer.

  • @rodmunch69

    @rodmunch69

    2 жыл бұрын

    That Topaz was one ugly car back then, and I think its even uglier today.

  • @rodmunch69

    @rodmunch69

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RockandrollNegro yeah, Mercury was the Buick of Ford. You got slightly upgraded stuff over Chevy, but not in the same league as Cadillac.

  • @Coyote-pj1iu
    @Coyote-pj1iu5 жыл бұрын

    Never knew Honda ever put a solid rear axle in a car !

  • @mcqueenfanman

    @mcqueenfanman

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I wonder where they sourced that from.

  • @gary19222

    @gary19222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Badass!!

  • @Shishizurui
    @Shishizurui5 жыл бұрын

    when you realize that compared to these the Subaru Impreza is a fricken modern marvel

  • @NazbolCaliphDonaldaddeenTrump

    @NazbolCaliphDonaldaddeenTrump

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well yeah, Imprezas are from 1992-2019, these cars are all late 80s

  • @PlainlyDifficult
    @PlainlyDifficult5 жыл бұрын

    Love it! I don’t know why I’m spending my weekend off watching this but yolo

  • @nobodynoone2500

    @nobodynoone2500

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol, just watched one of your vids before this one. 80's car programs have an odd charm don't they?

  • @german2669
    @german26694 жыл бұрын

    I like that little civic

  • @blairwilliams136
    @blairwilliams1365 жыл бұрын

    Love that suby, so many cool features

  • @kelly00000111111
    @kelly000001111114 жыл бұрын

    12:21 *”Yep, it’s a window”*

  • @TypeTuber
    @TypeTuber5 жыл бұрын

    That rear differential looks a wee bit delicate :)

  • @majorcalvary6515
    @majorcalvary65155 жыл бұрын

    My drivers ed car was a Ford Tempo. Hey. It had more hp than my dad Toyota Tercel, mighty 66 hp. Tempo had 98hp, and there was a 3L V6, mighty 130hp.

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    5 жыл бұрын

    My dad had a 1987 Hyundai Excel, and I think it had even less HP than a Toyota Tercel.

  • @majorcalvary6515

    @majorcalvary6515

    5 жыл бұрын

    Skyline Fever 😀 thanks for sharing.

  • @robsrandomness7824

    @robsrandomness7824

    5 жыл бұрын

    My driver's ed car was an '86 Reliant

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    My driver's ed car was a Ford Tempo as well, and wasn't the AWD model, but took driver's ed at the right time of the year we drove in rain, sleet, snow, freezing rain...when we drove in the snow we asked our instructor if we were still going to get to drive that day because of the weather, he says umm hell yes you are, and what better time to do so. Car did fine in the snow I was surprised how it handled given it was just a front wheel drive car. I've owned a 91 and a 93 Tempo sense then. Miss them both.

  • @keithnewton8981
    @keithnewton89815 жыл бұрын

    This awd system on the ford cane from the European division where 4x4 family saloon cars car have been using the system since the early 1980 Vw had this on then golf and Passat of this time as well

  • @douglasb.1203
    @douglasb.1203 Жыл бұрын

    Love the 5000CS Quattro.

  • @garbage854
    @garbage8545 жыл бұрын

    I remember all these 😀

  • @kartickanungo8486

    @kartickanungo8486

    5 жыл бұрын

    most of them disappeared around 1999-2001 in Canada/usa

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket4 жыл бұрын

    I imagine this was a very useful episode back in the day.

  • @jasoncarpp7742
    @jasoncarpp77425 жыл бұрын

    Cars like these would be perfect for Northwest (Washington, Oregon, Montana, and Northern California) areas, where you don't need a big lumbering SUV or a truck based 4wd truck to get around, but like the ability to switch between 2wd and 4wd as needed, when it snows, etc.

  • @sudmuck

    @sudmuck

    5 жыл бұрын

    I live in Washington state, Those cars are still pretty common here, & we're known as "subaru country".

  • @jasoncarpp7742

    @jasoncarpp7742

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sudmuck I know what you mean. I also live in Washington state. Born and raised.

  • @321CatboxWA

    @321CatboxWA

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sudmuckI too live in the Evergreen and servicing Subaru's put dinner on the table . However you state that " we're known as "Subaru Country" . Who is this we? I was under the impression this is "Rust Truck Country" Second only to Detroit. HMMMMMMMMMMMM? :)

  • @321CatboxWA

    @321CatboxWA

    5 жыл бұрын

    NW Wa, Had the Honda Wagon 2wd. Forget driving it in snow , grass, gravel and wet pavement. Worse than a Empty 1/2 ton with car tires crossing the yard.

  • @jasoncarpp7742

    @jasoncarpp7742

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@321CatboxWA I agree. I live in Gig Harbor, and we don't get very much snow, or very often. But when we do, it's difficult to get out of the driveway, let alone drive around town.

  • @jlang8213
    @jlang82135 жыл бұрын

    That Vanagon looks like it wants to tip over.

  • @RoadCone411

    @RoadCone411

    5 жыл бұрын

    I'd love a Vanagon Syncro like that now, in mint condition of course...flaws and all

  • @scdevon

    @scdevon

    5 жыл бұрын

    Don't worry. It will.

  • @TombstoneChris

    @TombstoneChris

    5 жыл бұрын

    The hippie bus!!!

  • @jlang8213

    @jlang8213

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@TombstoneChris you mean "Tippie bus"

  • @mfree80286

    @mfree80286

    5 жыл бұрын

    That would be because it wants to tip over.

  • @gabesgarage3131
    @gabesgarage31314 жыл бұрын

    I love the cute rear diff on the civic "4wd".

  • @gary19222

    @gary19222

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ya a solid axle like a pickup would have!

  • @chrisdooley6468
    @chrisdooley64684 жыл бұрын

    The GL 10 did the quarter mile in almost the exact same time as the 83 Trans Am I just watched lol. I miss the eighties

  • @PrettyChrome
    @PrettyChrome5 жыл бұрын

    This is so good!

  • @larryfernand5436
    @larryfernand54364 жыл бұрын

    The best car reviewer .

  • @DanTheMailman330
    @DanTheMailman3302 жыл бұрын

    My grandma had one of the Topaz GS all wheel drive. Was great here in northeast Ohio.

  • @WPMontgomery
    @WPMontgomery5 жыл бұрын

    I want one just to drive every third day. Cool.

  • @black98rt
    @black98rt5 жыл бұрын

    That ABS off button on the Audi should still be on cars. About trashed a WRX on a gravel road because the ABS just wouldn’t slow me down. Thankfully the e-brake locked up the tires.

  • @nancyblanchard9175

    @nancyblanchard9175

    5 жыл бұрын

    That was going to be my comment

  • @willohwhite2372

    @willohwhite2372

    5 жыл бұрын

    Early WRX cars had dreadful ABS programs. I remember talks of class action lawsuits and trying to force a recall, neither of which flew from what I remember. My 02 WRX was almost lost a couple times when ABS was engaged unnecessarily on rough tarmac.

  • @_justsomedude

    @_justsomedude

    5 жыл бұрын

    You can disable the abs by simply pulling the main fuse which should be in the under hood box. (done it on a 94 and 97 legacy so far)

  • @black98rt

    @black98rt

    5 жыл бұрын

    Danny Gustafson hard to do while you’re driving though

  • @csj9619
    @csj96192 жыл бұрын

    Remember when A/C was an option? When manual transmission was base model, automatic extra? Now it cost more to get a manual somehow. (If you can even get it). Yes, yes, these are the cars on the road when I was growing up. I wonder if there are any Ford Tempos and Hyundai Excells still runnin'?

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    My 91 Tempo was on the road still as of last year, not sure if its still going or not. I see one around once in a while in town...haven't seen an AWD one for several years now, and I'd love to have one, they have more ground clearance than most of today's "crossover AWD" soccer mom cars.

  • @earnedmystripes2382
    @earnedmystripes23823 жыл бұрын

    That Subaru had some features that were way ahead of its time.

  • @melissacarterpresley5786
    @melissacarterpresley57864 жыл бұрын

    The Topaz did not have enough going for it in 2wd to be taking on 4wd.

  • @matty_o
    @matty_o5 жыл бұрын

    Spare donut under hood🙀 Constant complaints of no oil or volt meter read Outs Locking diffs 👌🏾 Limited slip diffs👌🏾 Those days were technically nicer than we thought

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 Жыл бұрын

    4WD or AWD are a must for our 5-6 feet of snow we get every winter

  • @allFordchannel
    @allFordchannel5 жыл бұрын

    Best cars ever

  • @maddesi2709
    @maddesi27095 жыл бұрын

    LOCKING CENTER DIFF ON THE SUBARU AND LOCKING DIFFS ON THE AUDI!!! IMPRESSIVE

  • @seththomas9105
    @seththomas91055 жыл бұрын

    Vanagon!!!

  • @DM-hw4cr
    @DM-hw4cr4 жыл бұрын

    Those civic motors could take a beating

  • @chrisgnonya
    @chrisgnonya3 жыл бұрын

    I had an 89 Mercury Topaz front wheel drive. The best word to describe that car was "Ooooffff". At least the seats were comfortable.🤣

  • @nobodynoone2500

    @nobodynoone2500

    2 жыл бұрын

    A shitbox by any other name...

  • @GT6SuzukaTimeTrials
    @GT6SuzukaTimeTrials5 жыл бұрын

    I was 3 years old at the time. Honda won the 1980's by far, along with Toyota and Nissan.

  • @marshalmagooo3899

    @marshalmagooo3899

    4 жыл бұрын

    Toyota had a way more diverse lineup with rwd corollas, celicas, supras, Camry, mr2....legendary trucks and the mighty land cruiser and 4runner

  • @robertvogel7761
    @robertvogel77615 жыл бұрын

    The days you can change an alternator in 15 minutes. Now you have to take half the car apart just to get to it.

  • @skylinefever

    @skylinefever

    4 жыл бұрын

    There were cars back then that made alternators difficult to replace. My mom's 1985 Nissan Maxima made alternators difficult to replace, and alternators never lasted in that car because it was so badly designed.

  • @rxwhat33
    @rxwhat335 жыл бұрын

    My cousin had an awd topaz, always had problems.

  • @Nobody-xh5qe
    @Nobody-xh5qe5 жыл бұрын

    Damn am FM cassette😯got to get me one of those topaz's

  • @JDMHaze

    @JDMHaze

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nobody lmaoo 😂😂😂

  • @mfree80286

    @mfree80286

    5 жыл бұрын

    If that's your reasoning, you're going to be disappointed. That head unit... ugh. Belt driven cassette mechanism, I snagged a pile of them from a junkyard to swap in for a nonfunctional one in my '84 Tbird in the dirt-poor high school days and good god, not a single damn one of the cassette mechanisms worked.

  • @MixingGBP

    @MixingGBP

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yep, no 8-track player for you! :)

  • @undefinedname1398
    @undefinedname13985 жыл бұрын

    Motorweek used to be such a good show now it's terrible and I find I can watch it in about 5 minutes because that's about all the worthwhile content it has.

  • @DS_IndustrieZ
    @DS_IndustrieZ3 жыл бұрын

    12:14 Honda had the crossover recipe even back then lol

  • @palebeachbum
    @palebeachbum5 жыл бұрын

    I think every extended family in America owned a Ford Tempo or Mercury Topaz back in the day. I feel so bad for anyone who bought an AWD Tempo/Topaz over the Subaru DL/GL. Those Subarus were excellent cars.

  • @kevinwong6588
    @kevinwong65884 жыл бұрын

    I'd have (opinion) the Eagle Wagon, as the best value over these selections. With base retail price at $11,943 (1987) with good cargo room and sharing quite a bit of engine and drivetrain with Jeep, making it quite serviceable.

  • @wildbill23c

    @wildbill23c

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those were great cars. Most of the mail carriers in my area drove them on their mail delivery routes because of their great 4WD capability. I don't think I ever seen one chained up in the snow...now the stuff they drive you see them running chains on them all the time LOL. Newer isn't always better HAHA!!!

  • @coryreagan1886
    @coryreagan18864 жыл бұрын

    What the hell was up with the spare tire in the engine bay...

  • @gary19222

    @gary19222

    3 жыл бұрын

    The suburban has a horizontal apposed engine like a VW bug. It's a low flat motor so there was plenty of room for the tire!

  • @BMan100
    @BMan1005 жыл бұрын

    Always liked that generation of Civic....

  • @Rampant_Colt
    @Rampant_Colt3 жыл бұрын

    You forgot about the outstanding Eagle Premier AWD (LoL)

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