What we learn from history is we don’t learn from history.

@gravefrightn5720

2 ай бұрын

Can't learn history in a simulation that is already predetermined.

@chakeloftin2828

2 ай бұрын

​@gravefrightn5720 its not a simulation its just people choose to live blissfully in their ignorance. And were selfish down to the core so we love to say its future people problems🤷🏿‍♀️

@gravefrightn5720

2 ай бұрын

@@chakeloftin2828 No. It's definitely a simulation similar to today's video games. Flat open world with terrain and glitches that happen every now and then.

@MAXIMUSMINIMALIST

2 ай бұрын

@@gravefrightn5720 yeah sure and why would that simulation exist? That makes about as much sense as Nancy Pelosi talking 😂

@gravefrightn5720

2 ай бұрын

@LindsayC-rw2yt To call someone an idiot while being an idiot is definitely something else. But once again, either you are a part of this simulation or not from it. The way I can see you are definitely a part of it. Lol.

An old friend of mine, Art Mathews, was driving the yellow car shown sitting on the bridge. He said he saw the buss ahead of him dissappear along with the pick up truck behind it before slamming on his brakes. The truck hit the ship and guy driving it flew out of the truck and into the water. Art watched them "fish the guy" out of the water, as he put it. I worked with Artie, as I called him, for a couple of years , down in Fort Myers. He was in his late 80's back then. Art grew up in Lakehurst New Jersey and witnessed the Hindenburg crash when he was 9 years old. He said it happened right behind his house. His parents transported burn victims to the hospital in their car to the hospital. There was so much burnt flesh stuck to the inside of the car that the navy bought them a new car. He once showed me a small piece of the Hindenburg he still had after all those years. I'm sure Artie has passed on by now. He was a helluva nice guy. RIP Artie.

@boataxe4605

2 ай бұрын

There is an interview with him on KZread.

@Prizm17

2 ай бұрын

@@boataxe4605that’s so cool

@susanlee8609

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing.

@user-vx4hp4nz1u

Ай бұрын

It goes to prove that when the kind hand is on your back nothing in this world can harm you. Thanks.

@dickymiller7196

Ай бұрын

This is fascinating, thank you for posting!

I remember this bridge collapse in 1980 like it was yesterday. How did we all get so old. The clock keeps ticking

@dianestumbo3714

2 ай бұрын

I so agree with you, I was a sophomore at Hillsborough High school in Tampa when this happened. I remember the school made an announcement over the loud speaker. Seems like yesterday.

@karmasutra4774

2 ай бұрын

I was 6 in Alabama, now live in Florida near Tampa. Thinking how back then I had no idea about these sorts of things that were happening. Now 44 years later I am learning about it since I was clueless back then ❤

@silverking77

2 ай бұрын

I was at Ted Peters I believe when I heard about it.

@RollingShutter

2 ай бұрын

any tipps for the young ? any regrets yet ?

@GQ1921

Ай бұрын

@@RollingShutter no regrets at all I'm actually glad I grew up in the payphone era because I believe technology destroyed mankind as we knew it. It's a sad life growing up with a smartphone plastered to your face.

I live in St. Pete at the time… and my fiancé was in the Coast guard he dove for bodies when that bridge collapsed. I will never forget it. He was so upset that day. It was so hard to listen to the news and know he was out there looking for bodies

@williamkirkland7002

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for his service in the U S Coast Guard.thank you for sharing your story. 🇺🇸🤗

@jimshoe402

2 ай бұрын

My buddy Cleaned that Bridge for the city that night ?? Never talked about it my Friends told me Willey Gone now..

@jeffmilroy9345

2 ай бұрын

Quebec 107 Jan 1980. Went in to boot at cape may the night the Blackthorn went down with huge loss of life. After boot, we got the news the bridge collapsed. Crazy time for Coasties.

Everyone forgets this one... "On September 22, 1993, an Amtrak Sunset Limited passenger train derailed on the CSX Transportation Big Bayou Canot Bridge near Mobile, Alabama, United States. It was caused by displacement of a span and deformation of the rails when a tow of heavy barges collided with the rail bridge eight minutes earlier. Forty-seven people were killed and 103 more were injured."

Enjoy life now. Because in a blink of an eye your entire life can change.

@stephengering1986

2 ай бұрын

Yes it does

@physetermacrocephalus2209

2 ай бұрын

Give us the equation for the perfect economy.

@bikerhighmiler8998

2 ай бұрын

​@physetermacrocephalus2silly209

@jeffmilroy9345

2 ай бұрын

@@physetermacrocephalus2209 Wage Control = GNP.

My wife passed over the Minnesota 35W Bridge about an hour before it too collapsed in 2007.

@eleanormassaro5195

2 ай бұрын

That was such a tragedy. I was on vacation in North Georgia when that happened and I remember just being glued to the TV because I couldn’t believe what had happened.

@heytam7162

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear this mate 😢

@petebusch9069

2 ай бұрын

This is not about you or your wife.

@shereeross4049

2 ай бұрын

​@@petebusch9069ignorant

@hollycowan508

2 ай бұрын

My husband and I lived in Minneapolis at the time. Very devastating. I'm so sorry.

My uncle was on the greyhound bus that morning when that freighter hit that broIt was during a bad thunderstorm and the power went off then He along with others on that bridge died They have a memorial plaque put up at the end of the new bridge and everyone that died that morning their names are on it

@mop714

2 ай бұрын

Just so tragic. RIP

@jeffjedlick6655

2 ай бұрын

My dad made it across just as the storm hit , he swore it couldn't have been no more than a minute or two before the bridge went down

@mikefearn6596

2 ай бұрын

You have my heartfelt condolences on the loss of your uncle....Best Wishes

@lindaharris1085

2 ай бұрын

@@mikefearn6596 Thank you

@lindaharris1085

2 ай бұрын

@@mop714 Yes it was Thank you

In the Seventies we teased my cousin in St Pete who was afraid to drive over the Sunshine Skyway. Our teasing didn’t age well.

@jimshoe402

2 ай бұрын

I drove over the new one Didn't Like it..

I was there that morning. We were headed north and had already paid the toll when suddenly an Highway Patrolman went by us just as we were about to get on bridge and pulled sideways in fr9nt of us. He got out of his car, walked over to us and said sorry bridge is down. With the most somber look. I can still see it in my head. The sky was grey, the wayer was grey and real choppy and the boat was grey. If we hadnt stopped for 10 minutes in Oneco because raining so hard could'nt see we would have been on opposite span when it it. I remember the original bridge. Now that was scary.

It was horrible drivng on the Skyway and going past the section that fell. Those poor victims.. RIP....

@ochsj1971

2 ай бұрын

I remember how eerie it was going south on the north span, seeing the south span with the missing portion. I remember seeing it in 1982 on a trip to the FL Keys.

I remember that day.That was so sad.I still remember it to a stay and my prayers still go out to all their families and friends

You can clearly see in the video the ship lost power.... you can not steer a ship that size without power! It's become part of our culture to play the blame game before the facts are in!

@JL-sm6cg

Ай бұрын

Yeah, like certain people are now blaming DEI on all of this!

I also thought the captain was drunk. I’m saddened that this bit of misinformation has apparently got staying power.

Why on earth do we not build these bumpers/dolphins around all of our U.S. bridges?!

@Hexanitrobenzene

2 ай бұрын

People tend to underestimate low probability, high risk events.

@Kededian

2 ай бұрын

Because the deepstate wants to wage war for profit.

@davidharrison7014

2 ай бұрын

Too expensive! $$$$$$!

@winnhill3736

Ай бұрын

That $ will be wasted by the dems on illegal migrants.

Very well stated. A bridge that is a fracture critical design that doesn’t have significant pile protection will catastrophically fail by removing just one of the piles holding up the bridge. There is ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE for NOT having massive pile protection in place after similar circumstances of hitting and removing just one pile destroyed the Florida Sunshine SkyWay bridge tragedy. I remember that well studding the failure in my College engineering classes.

loss of power happens usually. My father is a captain. He told me a story just last week he lost power and was drifting to shore. Coastguard tugboats asked them if they're ok. They said yes, emergency generator kicked in and they moved out slowly. Coastguard was still asking if they're ok. The reason is they get paid A LOT for emergency rescue. New ships dont have that problem but older ships do. In that case, ship was too big for emergeny generator to kick in and stop. Usualy cargo ships are 10k tons. This one was 15X times bigger. It's basically 15 cargo ships combined into 1.

@jeffmilroy9345

2 ай бұрын

How much does the Coast Guard make for emergency rescue? My CG crew towed many a boat back to port in 41375 and do not recall making a dime. Read Ten Hours Before Dawn and get educated about the personal cost of emergency rescue. RIP Charley Bucko.

I was in Tampa at High School.... We were headed to Sarasota...for a field trip to Ringling Art Museum... they thought we were on the bridge

@quetzelmedina3

2 ай бұрын

Damn no cell phones back then. Bet ppl were happy to see you when u rolled back up to the school.

@eleanormassaro5195

2 ай бұрын

I was headed to my high school in Tampa that morning and it was pouring so heavy, You literally couldn’t see in front of you!

Nice professional & heartfelt reporting, well done. We need more stations around the country to report in detail like this one did. In order to improve & plan for the unthinkable, these reports are critical to remember.

That was a very good and concise report.

Was working at Longboat Key PD that day…What a tragic scene…..😞

I was one of the first responders to Fort Desoto and Potters pier.

@testiculardestruction

2 ай бұрын

So?

@user-uq2rr4xt9g

2 ай бұрын

@testiculardestruction I suppose if you weren't there it would not have any meaning.

I was a Junior at Lakewood High School in South St. Pete when that happened. I drove over that bridge hundreds of times to see family. That was a very sad and somber day when that bridge fell. I actually got to work on the rebuild several years later. I was a DOT crew boat captain hauling workers out to the construction site. Seems like a few lifetimes ago.

44 years of knowledge and yet- no bumpers for this new bridge disaster. Do we really need repeated disasters to learn? Really?

@RetroAnachronist

2 ай бұрын

Different state. 🤷‍♂️

@boataxe4605

2 ай бұрын

It has bumpers, and you can see them in the video. The ship hit at a very unfortunate angle and missed them.

@RetroAnachronist

2 ай бұрын

@@boataxe4605 it needed dolphins, not bumpers.

@boataxe4605

2 ай бұрын

@@RetroAnachronist What can Flipper do to stop a runaway ship?😂 I know what they are called but I was simplifying it for the OP because they called them bumpers. I’m now going to dinner,I think I’ll have Mahi Mahi.

@k1ngn1ko

Ай бұрын

@@RetroAnachronistbut we’re somehow called the “United” States

Excellent coverage 👏

I bet they will now have to sit down and work on to prevent something like this in the future for all bridges.

@kandiceblu1

2 ай бұрын

Yes it's called reactive instead of proactive ....

@NihongoGuy

2 ай бұрын

If they didn't in 1980, what makes you think 'they' will do so now?

I live 45 min from the Skyway bridge. Driven over this bridge and the Baltimore bridge. Sso sad. 💔😭

Wow , the Americans destroyed that ship and knocked their own bridge down.... What a mess.

That was a good report from a local TV station

Learning from the Past is an Important Challenge.

Raised in St Pete. Drove over it many times. It was shaky. I was in AK at the time on a remote assignment. Someone left newspaper at my door on it. Same thing happened years later when the space shuttle blew up, I was on a remote Germany assignment. Someone left newspaper at door.

My grandfather was the captain of that ship. Must have been horrifying for the people on that ship and bridge.

aint no protection on those pillars wouldve saved the bridge this morning.

@ChrisLeonard-np7lh

2 ай бұрын

Yup

How the hell can a major harbour like this with a massive bridge and giant ships operate without TUG boats ? I really need to understand this simple query

@bigpicturethinking5620

2 ай бұрын

It just does. What’s not to understand?

@t0manderson571

2 ай бұрын

Bar pilots.

@mikewright9547

2 ай бұрын

Race to the bottom on cutting corners. Cornerstone of the USA.

@ohsweetmystery

2 ай бұрын

Inform yourself. They have tugs, which in this case had already departed.

@tinypoolmodelshipyard

2 ай бұрын

Tugs help jockey in and out of port. The bridge is beyond the port. They had already departed.

Me and my family went over the Sunshine Skyway Bridge the day before it collapsed May 8, 1980. I had just turned 20 years old 5 days before that. Weeks before this happened I had continuous nightmares about drowning. We had just been over to the Ringing Bros. Museum in Sarasota and were traveling across the bridge towards Clearwater to see my grandmother. I was utterly shocked the next morning to see it on TV. Prayers to those who lost loved ones then and now.

@HoneyHoneyBaby

Ай бұрын

Wow 😳‼️

Pilings of Baltimore bridge are completely unprotected. So tugs should be used through that channel at slow speed. Very obvious. It was only a matter of time.

This is a fear common to all humans. Failing in a way that can't be recovered from... or dying.

Similar to when an explosion happened at the towers in New York on February 26, 1993. 8 years before a much worse disaster.

As important as this port is, it might be worth having tugboats escort each ship beneath the bridge.

Give Him and His country the bill rebuild! Taxpayers shouldn’t have to pay for it!!!!

Good report

44 years later inspectors couldn't create a buffer around the bridge, 😮😮 Columns

@boataxe4605

2 ай бұрын

Key bridge had them, but the ship missed them.

I-35W in Minneapolis was just as bad

I was working there when it happened. Crossed the bridge about a hour before it collapsed. Got to work and heard the news of it. Felt really weird.....

I remember this day from when I was a little boy on vacation in St Pete visiting family.Under the new bridge is where I first learned to tube on the water and I still remember the fear that went through my body when I was in those waters that a person from one of those victims was going to grab my feet and drag me under.

Why don't all bridges near cargo ship routes have those bumpers? It seems like a no-brainer, if you ask me.

Learn history , Learn why an iconic bridge built in 1937 in SF has stood the test of time, if it had taken a hit from this ship it would still b standing .

Damage far above water line, ship in Baltimore did hit pillars first. In 1980 another ship did hit bridge, it did ship pillar. In 1980 they already knew pier was not wide enough.

I wonder if that white Buick skylark perched at the end of the bridge is still around, I doubt it though, maybe 20 years ago, but not 40+ years ago. That was the luckiest guy in the world that day

Good video.

ThankYou 4 Sharing !!! ❤ 🕊 MuchLove

A Harbor Pilot on board , but without power, no chance of control. Tugs should always be stationed to intercede in an emergency during docking.

@bukboefidun9096

2 ай бұрын

A 500 ton tug can do almost nothing to help redirect a 100,000 ton ship with 2 minutes notice of emergency

@brittanytaz1282

2 ай бұрын

@@bukboefidun9096 Captain Ron can park an aircraft carrier without assistance, jump up o to the quay wall, grab a Mai Tai, dance a Calypso, with only one eye, before the brow is set. Roll the credits.

I miss my hometown St Petersburg It's pretty much unrecognizable anymore........

There was a Greyhound Bus involved and maybe that is it at 1:02 I was able to see these bridges in March 1981 and people were using the closed causeway to fish, as I recall. Last time there in 2014 and the new bridge is a scary looking behemoth up in the sky!!

Dang, something similar happened before?

@jimbobeire

2 ай бұрын

Multiple times. Sunshine Skyway Bridge in Florida, Queen Isabella Causeway in Texas, I 40 bridge in Oklahoma, Lake Pontchartrain Causeway... Also comparable, the Tasman Bridge in Australia, and the Almo Bridge in Sweden.

I love the fish bag, can you tell me where you purchased it from?

Big difference between this disaster and the one that just happened. In this one, the pilot was in a storm and there was no warning at all. With the one that just happened the pilot was fine, the ship failed and put out a mayday, the bridge was closed (no traffic) and only a few construction workers died. They managed to prevent a lot of deaths this time - that time back in 1980 when I was living in Tampa many died, and I remember the old bridge before it went down

What these accidents tell me is that we don't always learn from our mistakes. A ship that size should never be solely under it's own control and propulsion. Tugs are cheap, but we are even cheaper

I had a feeling that this previous disaster would be mentioned.

What bothered me is not that the ship hit a pylon, or even that a span collapsed. The problem was that the collapse propagated along the bridge taking out several pylons and the decking. This violates one of the normal design criteria for a structure. There should not normally be a progressive collapse. Even though we saw such a thing in the twin towers. Yet that was not the result of a foreseeable collision.

@Hexanitrobenzene

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, only 2 sections should have fallen. Maybe the waterway could still be used then.

The Summit Venture didn't loose all power for a minute or two a few hundred yards on the approach to the bridge and was a much smaller ship than the Dali. Just a couple facts to consider.

I remember when this happened

Why didn't you mention the Silver Bridge that fell in WV/Ohio in 1967? Forty-six people died in that accident.

Literally just said a boat has lost power in the same situation but was able to steer it😂

Close the stable doors after the horse has bolted.

So this happened before, and then they had 44 years to build massive reinforced dolphins around the pilings of every bridge in America that has large ships passing it, but they didn't, and now it's happened again. Smells like.... _negligence._

@PostalWorker14

Ай бұрын

Feds probably alloted money for barriers but Maryland and Baltimore pocketed the money like New Orleans before Katrina

@PostalWorker14

Ай бұрын

Suspension bridges would swing and be damaged not collapse totally

Such Sadness, Don’t Think I Ever Want To Cross a Bridge Again 🙊🙈🤔

Special steering propulsion system need to be set up to control steering.

In America we don't learn from our mistakes, we just rebuild and pretend everything is fine.

@42luke93

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think that’s true. The Baltimore bridge was made before the sunshine Skyway bridge incident, and when they rebuilt it, they made it much stronger with bumpers.

I also vividly remember the Oakland Bay Bridge disaster.

@markpreston6930

2 ай бұрын

Is that Saturday Morning when Central Valley tourists cause gridlock?

No "Fenders" surrounding its anchor points either....look what happens..... i live near major port....our bridge that spans the ships route.....HAVE FENDERS ON ALL ANCHOR POINTS

I WAS ON THAT BRIDGE IN 77 GOING ON VACATION FORM CONNECTICUT TO WALT DISNEY WORLD SAME AREA WHERE SHIP HIT MY LATE GRANDPARENTS WERE IN ST PETE SEEING FRIENDS LUCKY THEY DIDNT GO TO MIAMI THAT MORNING I STILL GOT THE NEWSPAPERS FROM THIS DISASTER

@jayskicksnfits9372

Ай бұрын

*DISNEY* & *ARCHIVES*

If u can’t see while driving,STOP!!! Doesn’t matter what u r driving. So yes I totally blame that pilot driver. Not only should he NOT have been cleared of charges,he should have been put in prison for mass murder!

I’m sure it’s going to take some time to rebuild….I lived in Silver Springs Maryland not too far from Baltimore….

I'm guessing that at the time, unlike now, you didn't have people making it a political issue, or thinking that it was intentional.

I suppose it was 40 years ago. Time sure does fly by.

Goes to show that bridge engineers DONT LEARN or Harbour authorities just think of the bottom dollar AND its never going to happen to them . 40 years is a LONG TIME to ignore basic safety issues

With the weight of the bridge on the front end pressing it down and the weight of the cargo on the ogher end it will break apary at any moment. My advise is no one should get closer to th scene.

I know it's similar to that other bridge the Maryland bridge

le pont devait être très très vieux, c’est un peu comme Notre-Dame de Paris. Pareil elle devait être trop vieille

To be honist that is the worst spot for a bridge period

@jayskicksnfits9372

Ай бұрын

*honest*

Beautiful woman

How do you hit that? I mean come on…

You're Gonna Need a Bigger -Boat- Dolphin

We learned to add protection though…

Yea, they had 40 years to put impact protection around the Baltimore one, but nope. Spent $400 B on welfare tho.

@rainmaker3700

2 ай бұрын

crack houses are thriving in Baltimore.

@rainmaker3700

2 ай бұрын

The crackhouses are thriving though!

@ChristianWayne-ei5hc

2 ай бұрын

Welfare?

@ChristianWayne-ei5hc

2 ай бұрын

Stop crying & pay your taxes

@gerwin030

2 ай бұрын

How many tax returns did they give to billionaires?

Thank goodness New York got rid of the tappan zee bridge that was over similar design

Just no live cams and cell phones back then

Its horrible

None. It will happen again. Really sad. Mankind just doesnt learn. Never will.

He wanted to clear his name but blamed himself for the rest of his life?

I just have one question to say what changes in the United States with the loading and unloading service. Where are we going, what will it look like, how much will it cost us.

Them Bridges dont look safe.

1:20 "IT'S OK, it's got brown seats"

Any bridge in a shipping 🚢 waterways should automatically be mandatory to have some kind of protection from ship's

40-44 years ago today.

I drive this bridge weekly

Who controlled the ship?

Harbor Pilots are on the navigation bridge to assist the ship Master with safe port entry and exit. They are a dedicated and necessary addition to the crew but are not in total of the ship. The Master can override a Pilot command at their discretion at any time.

This will happend again if brigde is not change. Build a brand new suspension bridge which will be high over water, and u will have this problem. It should be done back in 1980