1980's Soviet Anti-Ship Strike vs 1980's US Carrier Group (Naval Battle 116a) | DCS

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*NEXT WEEK we'll re-run a more tactical long range version of this based in the North Atlantic.
We simulate a scenario in 1988 with a US Carrier Strike Group operating with F-14 Tomcats and FA-18 Hornets in the Black Sea. Russia launches a large anti-ship strike from its Western coast consisting of four TU-22M bomber regiments with a Mig-31 intercept squadron.
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  • @grimreapers
    @grimreapers7 ай бұрын

    *NEXT WEEK we'll re-run a more tactical long range version of this based in the North Atlantic.

  • @chrisvinicombe9947

    @chrisvinicombe9947

    7 ай бұрын

    In the North Atlantic 1987 operation copeium commences.

  • @AmirShafeek

    @AmirShafeek

    7 ай бұрын

    Arliegh Burke VS type 45.

  • @jamison884

    @jamison884

    7 ай бұрын

    I'm not an expert on 1980s CSG, but I think adding a third Tico is more accurate if you don't have one of the 80s guided missile destroyers available. I forget the speficifc models used then.

  • @xpk0228

    @xpk0228

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jamison884 kidd class maybe? with MK26 twin launcher for SM2

  • @jamison884

    @jamison884

    7 ай бұрын

    @@xpk0228Yes sir, that sounds right. I know, could have looked it up in the time it took to post/reply. Just lazy. Thanks.

  • @andrewsmall6834
    @andrewsmall68347 ай бұрын

    I was literally just going to bed after doing a 14hr shift today, but if the Grim Reapers are doing an epic naval battle, then sleep comes second.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    Lol excellent attitude!

  • @timhogan745

    @timhogan745

    7 ай бұрын

    I feel you on that one, I work for a defense manufacturer, we're kinda busy rn, go figure, actually loosing sleep to watch. 😂😂😂

  • @jyralnadreth4442

    @jyralnadreth4442

    7 ай бұрын

    Same...14 hour shift doing care work 😆

  • @jyralnadreth4442

    @jyralnadreth4442

    7 ай бұрын

    @@timhogan745 busy times for your industry....2 Major wars going on means overtime 🫠

  • @timhogan745

    @timhogan745

    7 ай бұрын

    @@jyralnadreth4442 , we are running 24/7. I'm working 12hrs 7 days a week. I'm a Master Machinist, so yeah, it's going to be a good holiday season for my family!

  • @geraldaffeldt8228
    @geraldaffeldt82287 ай бұрын

    "During the 1980s, a carrier air wing normally consisted of nine squadrons of various aircraft: two F-14 fighter squadrons, one E-2C AEW squadron, one EA-6B electronic warfare squadron, one S-3 ASW squadron, one A-6 medium-attack squadron, two A-7 light-attack squadrons, and one helicopter squadron, for a total of approximately 90 aircraft." During my deployments in the early 80's was like above, During air threat training, fighters were hundreds of miles from the ship along the threat axis, as almost everything else, S-3, A-7 and A-6 carrying refueling stores and KA-6Ds cycling keeping gas in the air for the fighters. That said, no idea how you set that up in DCS.

  • @nphil93992
    @nphil939927 ай бұрын

    Pheonix was never designed to deal with fighters, its purely designed to go after the bombers. If you want to kill the Mig's, have a squadron of tomcats or hornets go after the migs with sparrow/sidewinder while the rest of teh tomcats go after the bombers

  • @emfournet
    @emfournet7 ай бұрын

    I've got to say again, I love this new series. Core game assets! Less speculation! Never change.

  • @alanjarusewski484
    @alanjarusewski4847 ай бұрын

    Carriers are doing 30 knots. In 20 minutes they move 10 nm. So the redline needs to adjust for that.

  • @coolcreeper9874
    @coolcreeper98747 ай бұрын

    No a naval expert, but I believe that the fleet would maneuver to place the defence capability to max. Close with the carrier and angle so all launchers could fire. The navy knew about the overwhelming wave attack and had doctrine to defend. Also the carrier would put the reactors to max and run like hell (40+ knots).

  • @TheProperMinter

    @TheProperMinter

    7 ай бұрын

    Indeed, plus kh22 aiming and tracking was 60ies tech, worse than bad, nearly no manoeuvrability on decent too, this a high altitude missile, high supersonic, but it goes down nearly as ballistic, very limited manoeuvrability

  • @jmtpolitico80
    @jmtpolitico807 ай бұрын

    Happy Veterans Day in the U.S. and Happy Remembrance Day in the U.K.!!!

  • @douglasarthur2673

    @douglasarthur2673

    7 ай бұрын

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank You. Wear your Poppy to support our veterans and damn those disgraceful Muslims who want to disrupt our show of respect. Our veterans and fallen heroes…….we owe them a debt that can never be repaid.

  • @Wolfe351
    @Wolfe3517 ай бұрын

    the mk13 launcher fitted to the OHPs FFGs (and also on the California class CGNs (except they have 2x mk13s for 80 missiles)) can fire and reload very fast 1x SM1 or SM2 for CGNs missile every 8 seconds, EDIT OHP can only guide one or two missiles at time and only have SM1 which is relatively short range (RAN Adelaide class OHPs got refitted with SM2 in early 2000's plus 8 cell VLS with ESSM)

  • @lohrtom

    @lohrtom

    7 ай бұрын

    Correct. OHP has two fire control channels. One in the CAS antenna and the other is the STIR antenna. I’ve shot plenty of SM-1s from that system.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    Roger I think that's how it is modelled in game. Just not much compared to a multi-channel Mk41.

  • @apparition13
    @apparition137 ай бұрын

    Okay, a couple comments. 1. Quibble, it's carrier battle group at this time, not strike group. There was talk of strikes on the Soviet mainland, but the primary mission in the Atlantic is protecting the REFORGER convoys taking U.S. troops to Europe. That's well outside MiG-31 range. 2. If you have two carriers, you have two carrier battle groups operating as a task force. That means at you need double the escorts.

  • @Nightdare

    @Nightdare

    6 ай бұрын

    2nd carrier was merely there to aid human players with launching, instead of getting hung up in the AI parking lot

  • @pulzzz
    @pulzzz7 ай бұрын

    These are so great to watch. A version I would really like to see, is a recreation of the TU-22M carrier strike from Tom Clancy's novel Red Storm Rising

  • @BobTheHappyDinosaur

    @BobTheHappyDinosaur

    7 ай бұрын

    Did that have an Oscar sub launching as well?

  • @paintwaster1

    @paintwaster1

    7 ай бұрын

    They just did that video a few months ago

  • @papatango2362

    @papatango2362

    7 ай бұрын

    He did that

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    enjoy: kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqlto5atmtbcfrA.html

  • @tonyroberts4807
    @tonyroberts48077 ай бұрын

    I think the airborne CAP flights should be further out, at least 1 flight should be about halfway between the carrier and the bombers. I don't think they typically linger that close to the CV, and I do think one of the E-2s should be further out. That's the few changes I can think of. Maybe make the carrier group begin evasive maneuvers, like the carrier itself begin turning around.

  • @tkopp10976
    @tkopp109767 ай бұрын

    It's really funny when you compare meticulously crafted missions, properly simulated as realistic as possible regarding vehicles, fuel, radars, ranges, weapons abilities and all that jazz, to shit like the "Epic Battle Simulator" where millions of dumb units just DPS each other to death, with no blue on blue fire, no line of sight, no attrition, just splatter and pew-pew. Thank you Super Cap and all Grim Reapers for providing these highly entertaining and actually educational videos. I've picked up quite a few military terms watching your missions!

  • @pahtar7189
    @pahtar71897 ай бұрын

    A few thoughts about the next iteration: - Don't have the fleet steaming straight for the Soviet forces so they're not closing the distance. - Put the destroyers between the carrier and the coast so their missiles and CIWS can all come to bear. - Put the human carrier several miles farther from the coast than the AI one so it isn't targeted. - Would it help to have some F/A-18s taking off with the first wave?

  • @HuyLe-qc8jc
    @HuyLe-qc8jc7 ай бұрын

    What was the load out on the Tomcat? 6 Phoenix / 2 Sidewinder or 4 Phoenix / 2 Sparrow / 2 Sidewinder? The former would be better for this scenario. Battle management could be improved and you could assigned different bomber flights to be attacked by each human. That would reduce the number of missiles attacking the same bomber. Reaction time is everything and early warning is essential. The AWACS and CAP need to be positioned 100-200 miles toward the expected threat direction to detect the bombers early enough for the air wing to launch and intercept far away carrier to prevent the antiship launch. Fuel would be an issue. Realistically, the air wing probably can't launch fast enough. The air crew need time to prep and the weapon crew need time to load the aircraft. There isn't enough time from detection to the bomber launching for more than a handful of fighter to be deployed.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    4 - 2 - 2

  • @Craeshen
    @Craeshen7 ай бұрын

    also carrier group will accelerate to flank speed and perform a turn to uncover as many mounts to the direction of the threat as possible. Idk if it's modelled but some ships also were also equipped with chaff rockets as well to confuse radar seeker's

  • @jimiraybeckton
    @jimiraybeckton7 ай бұрын

    As I mentioned before on a previous video, I’m actually sitting here at General Electric in Cincinnati, Ohio, watching your videos! And I love it when there’s a debate about the TF30 vs. the F100. Obviously I’m a little biased, but you’ll find that a large majority of pilots and crew favor the GE engines, and not just in the F-14. F-15 and F-16 pilots who have flown jets with both our engines and the P&W engines seem to always prefer ours. Yet a lot of the time ours are replacing the P&W engines that are used originally. Perhaps someday they’ll just cut out the middle man and use ours from the beginning! Haha All kidding aside, another great video! And it is a pretty cool feeling to watch these as I’m working on a part for an engine, at this very moment it’s for an F129! Looking forward to the next one!

  • @grmatrix6358

    @grmatrix6358

    7 ай бұрын

    A US Navy pilot said to me once "If it says Pratt & Whitney on the side, it also needs to say Martin Baker."

  • @jimiraybeckton

    @jimiraybeckton

    7 ай бұрын

    @@grmatrix6358 love it haha 😆

  • @seangfoster1974

    @seangfoster1974

    7 ай бұрын

    That was my experience as well. I wasn't a pilot in the the Air Force, but I was an Avionics Systems Specialist on the F-111, F-15 and F-16 and spoke with a lot of pilots. They all said the same thing... that the GE engines were better.

  • @leobexley
    @leobexley7 ай бұрын

    Great content as usual. Good to listen to whilst polishing shoes for the remembrance parade

  • @shawnmatthews5118
    @shawnmatthews51187 ай бұрын

    The US would never let a flight of that many Russians within range of our assets. We had warning from a series of AWACS and land based systems, as well as satellites, in the 80's. Also, we never ventured into the Black Sea with a carrier group, ever.

  • @kosher4418

    @kosher4418

    7 ай бұрын

    That's right, and the Awacs would not have been able to approach the Crimea since they would have been shot down by the SA-5, the Ukrainians confirmed this by shooting down the Tu-154 from 200 miles

  • @Justfishcatches
    @Justfishcatches7 ай бұрын

    Truth is satellites would have picked activity on these bomber bases preparing for large scale ops. The russians wouldn’t waste front line mig-31’s as decoys. They’d use mig-21s maybe mig-23s. Also being that close to soviet bomber bases, the strike group would’ve had mig CAP up in the air the clock. KA-6 tankers would’ve also been slightly outside of station to refuel the first F-14s that used all their fuel to reach mach 1.5-2 for initial engagement.

  • @El__Leche
    @El__Leche7 ай бұрын

    This was really amazing, despite the loss. Thanks for the videos

  • @dfsdude
    @dfsdude7 ай бұрын

    thanks guys, look forward to watching this...I recently discovered the channel and your Dance of the Vampires 80's remake opened my eyes to what really happened in RSR. We also saw that there were several plot armor moments for the USSR in the battle and it'd be interesting to redo the battle with what would happen if the USN carrier group got wise...Bun's report of Badgers came earlier...they wargamed this event out correctly (the admiral said..."hey this looks like a diversion")...the E2 detected the backfires at 300+ miles...an F-14 got early visual of the drones. What if USN air warfare doctrine included things like Time on Target's radar games where there were suddenly 20 carrier radar blips for the missiles to chose from? On one hand, the soviets did send 70 backfires plus 60-80 Badgers. So that is a massive attack. What would have to happen for the 1980's carriers to not eat a dozen Kitchens a piece?

  • @msytdc1577
    @msytdc15777 ай бұрын

    Oh no the US lost a carrier! How ever will they counter attack with only... 10 more carriers?!? 😅

  • @user-qn3xu5ee3t

    @user-qn3xu5ee3t

    7 ай бұрын

    With similar results

  • @Fred_the_1996

    @Fred_the_1996

    7 ай бұрын

    The soviets also had more planes, your point being?

  • @snickolls507

    @snickolls507

    7 ай бұрын

    Not sure if you are being funny and unrealistic or actually trying to posit that losing a multi-billion dollar nuclear powered 5000 man floating military base is not a big deal.

  • @user-og4vk6mc9i
    @user-og4vk6mc9i7 ай бұрын

    For the algorithm!

  • @DJO86able
    @DJO86able7 ай бұрын

    WONDERFULLY WELL!! Yes! Feels like forever since I heard that. We all hope you're wonderfully well too Cap.

  • @chrisstopher2277
    @chrisstopher22777 ай бұрын

    Great work as always.

  • @Canal-WMB
    @Canal-WMB7 ай бұрын

    This video gave me good ideas for a cinematic! Good video!

  • @bourbonbrigade
    @bourbonbrigade7 ай бұрын

    Cap the fact that you can fly and MC the whole video is absolutely amazing! That a real talent!

  • @amizaur3marcinostrowski186
    @amizaur3marcinostrowski1867 ай бұрын

    Try it with F-14 and Hornets on CAP on threat axis and maybe one AEGIS cruiser on an AAW picket position on threat axis too. The CAPs could engage earlier and at least force the Mig-31s down, the picket ship would probably die but would shift the battle away from main force and delay it.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    OK

  • @javieriniguez1444
    @javieriniguez14447 ай бұрын

    That was a tough fight. The Tomcats did succeed in downing multiple Foxhounds, and Backfires. In reality, attacking the Soviet Union with a single CVBG would be too much for it to handle. You would need 2 or 3 CVs complete with their attendant battle groups to survive up there. Still, this was extremely riveting. Good job.

  • @EagleFighterJet
    @EagleFighterJet7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the videos

  • @christophero55
    @christophero557 ай бұрын

    It seems the AIM-54 effectiveness has gone down significantly since the update to DCS.

  • @clintcarter6233

    @clintcarter6233

    7 ай бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing. Very few hits. The PK on those things is nil it appears at this point.

  • @Nightdare

    @Nightdare

    6 ай бұрын

    @@clintcarter6233 Not to mention they hardly outrun the F-14 it's fired from The guys were not even at Mach 2 and the 54's with over double the speed (on paper) were crawling ahead

  • @choctaw2sticks193
    @choctaw2sticks1937 ай бұрын

    either way it was one hell of a battle . . . great job ya`ll, 👍

  • @clangerbasher
    @clangerbasher7 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this. If you have any interest in Cold War North Atlantic ops you have played this game in your mind many times. It would be interesting to hope that in 2033 DCS will be able to handle a layer of ASW and EW on top of the air battle. That would be something to see.

  • @WarScernariosStories
    @WarScernariosStories7 ай бұрын

    Cool stuff👍

  • @TheJimbodean67
    @TheJimbodean677 ай бұрын

    It would been a bit cheeky, but having one of the mig 31’s break off and head towards the arctic followed by another one shortly later chasing after the first mig ultimately ending in a dogfight over a us submarine just to see who gets the reference.

  • @jamison884
    @jamison8847 ай бұрын

    It's alright Cap, thanks for the video. We lived through the scary 1980's and NATO has gained year-over-year since the early 90's. Plus, if you sent out the human red-alert respawn immediatelly after being downed, you weould have gotten all of them speaking to your scenario specifcally.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    We want to improve on this next week J.

  • @fredfrederick5607
    @fredfrederick56077 ай бұрын

    In the Clancy novel red storm rising, the Soviets used their old turbo prop bombers as decoys coming from one direction baiting the US fleet into launching all of its missiles and planes to intercept. After everything was committed to those bombers, the supersonic bombers came in from the other direction and launched hypersonic anti ship missiles. According to the novel, the US technology of the time didn’t allow tracking enough targets to be able to launch any additional defense missiles. I don’t remember all the details, but it would make a great Sim. I always wondered if he wrote a blueprint for the Russians to take out a US carrier group.

  • @duanemckinley9353

    @duanemckinley9353

    7 ай бұрын

    Grim Reapers did a video reenacting that scenario... and it was pretty interesting.

  • @KarateteaYT
    @KarateteaYT7 ай бұрын

    Me: I have to learn for my presenation in college on monday Also me: maybe i should watch just one more grim reapers video💀

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    :)

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak7 ай бұрын

    After watching the Paper Skies channel, I can confirm that the most unrealistic part of this sim was either the Russian planes getting off the ground or finding the correct target. :)

  • @kondor99999

    @kondor99999

    7 ай бұрын

    Don’t draw too many conclusions from modern Russian capabilities. The Soviets were no joke. They still had a lot of WW2 vets in command positions who knew their jobs. They lost all that in the 90s and there is little continuity between the modern Russian armed forces and those that defeated Germany. You could also base a YT channel on the many screw ups the USAF has been involved with, especially the infamous 1961 Goldsboro crash. Both sides had a huge catalog of F ups during the Cold War. Doesn’t mean they weren’t effective. A lot of people without military experience tend to have these sorts of unrealistic expectations. Do you know how many Afghan wedding parties and village gatherings we hit with JDAMs? How about we start a channel on that?

  • @Minh2268

    @Minh2268

    7 ай бұрын

    An aimchair keyboard general know things better than Pentagon and CIA 😂😂😂. Sure, Soviet collapsed so the Winner can say anything they want.

  • @Just_A_Random_Desk

    @Just_A_Random_Desk

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Minh2268 We can also look at Ukraine and see the massive Russian failures.

  • @trentvlak

    @trentvlak

    7 ай бұрын

    @@kondor99999 The Soviets were barely able to stop the runaway anti sub frigate Storozhevoy in 1975. Everything from failure to react, to planes running each other off the runways, planes attacking friendly ships, planes attacking merchant ships, planes not finding the target at all, etc.... This many bombers actually getting into the air and actually firing at the actual enemy is hiiiiiighly improbable. But it is fun to watch.

  • @dvaritek434

    @dvaritek434

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@kondor99999those wedding bombings were not f ups, they were features. In this scenario, us carrier group would know the effective engagement range of the backfires and set up rotating CAPs that distance out with hawkeyes and s3 air to air refueling. Once awacs picks up the bomber wing, carrier group probably turns around. 40knots isnt fast but it does buy time for ticondies to work.

  • @robandcheryls
    @robandcheryls7 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @JD-sb4ss
    @JD-sb4ss7 ай бұрын

    Love the video GR! Can we start seeing some cockpit footage from the other GR members? We’re missing out on some gold. Damp, dark, signore, cannonball, simva, fly, kortana, bird etc. looking at you! OBS studio is freeware 😊

  • @jmtpolitico80
    @jmtpolitico807 ай бұрын

    Wow first like and Viewer! It works out pretty good, almost all the things I follow on YT come out around the same time of day for me where I am usually going on Leave or I am already on leave!!! Thanks Team!!!

  • @eaches
    @eaches7 ай бұрын

    Yay! Some of the ships I served on during the time period I served on them. Thank you for the Veteran's Day gift.

  • @eaches

    @eaches

    7 ай бұрын

    ..... aaaaaand... You killed past me with extreme prejudice.

  • @Musix4me-Clarinet
    @Musix4me-Clarinet7 ай бұрын

    There is always the possibility that what shows up on scene may have different capabilities than intelligence predicted.

  • @neilaslayer
    @neilaslayer7 ай бұрын

    Can you put a Huey, or another helicopter with guns on the carrier to deal with the plumbing when it gets stopped up? Perhaps have it circling the carrier in an SAR role until you have to jump in to it to strafe the deck. Just a thought...

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    That's genius. Fingers crossed it's possible.

  • @turnerdan53
    @turnerdan537 ай бұрын

    The PW engines needed to be refueled after takeoff for the mission. So the CAP would have longer range. More would be in the air at the start. No one would expect that large of a force for a raid.

  • @Wyomingchief

    @Wyomingchief

    7 ай бұрын

    Are you talking about the bombers? Because if you're insinuating that then you are absolutely correct but in the opposite. If the Soviets were going to launch an all-out strike against the carrier Fleet out in the Atlantic it would be a much larger bomber force. This was only 4 or 5 regiments and I believe in the late 80s the Russians had at least 140 regiments of TU22's

  • @cyronader
    @cyronader7 ай бұрын

    In your older videos weren't the Phoenix missiles able to lock on to the anti ship missiles? Also why weren't the Phoenix not able to lock onto the Tu-22 at 90-100 miles? I thought that was whole point for the Tomcat and Phoenix?

  • @Wolfe351

    @Wolfe351

    7 ай бұрын

    they did lock on and fire at long range but the F14 needs to provide guidance to the AIM54 until it goes active in the last 15-20 secs of flight, only a few of the long shots guided as the F14s(Cap, Simba and Kortana) got hit by the MIG31s that should have been taken out by the leading AI F14s but due to the nature of the AI it went pear shaped.......

  • @jmtpolitico80
    @jmtpolitico807 ай бұрын

    Wow just after posting that last comment, Simba Goes "Boogity Boogity lets go racing boys"!

  • @TheProperMinter
    @TheProperMinter7 ай бұрын

    Out of 144 missiles most-likely only 20-30 could hit the target

  • @xpk0228

    @xpk0228

    7 ай бұрын

    yeah these KH22 doesn't have a good guidence system, and it travels fast which increases the chance of failures and reduce the chance of a possible correction course when they find that the ship were not where they are aiming.

  • @duanemckinley9353

    @duanemckinley9353

    7 ай бұрын

    Totally, but unfortunately DCS is setup to make all anti-ship missiles 100% accurate. It simplifies the coding but it also absolutely biases the sim.

  • @clangerbasher
    @clangerbasher7 ай бұрын

    Another thought. This 'game' is taking place in 1988 that is thirty years after the 1957 Defence White Paper which said that aircraft had no real future and missiles were everything. And yet 30 years after that and the missiles are still not good.............

  • @HuyLe-qc8jc

    @HuyLe-qc8jc

    7 ай бұрын

    Actually, they were right but that's not until 2030-2040. Missiles, glide bombs, and drone are very accurate and dominate even now. You launch stand off weapons from 50+ miles away from your target. In a near peer fight, no one expect to fly over the front line/target for air to ground missions or merge in a dogfight for an air to air mission any more. That's just suicide to be close against SAM and AAM. The sixth gen aircraft will have 1 human pilot aircraft managing multiple drone buddies, carrying most of the mission missile payload. Future AAM have range of over 100 miles. Air to ground missiles range are 200+ miles.

  • @clangerbasher

    @clangerbasher

    7 ай бұрын

    @@HuyLe-qc8jc So 80 years after the prediction they were right? Well worth destroying the British aviation industry then in the 1960s then.

  • @chuckd9007
    @chuckd90077 ай бұрын

    Well if your goal was to let us down, you succeeded wonderfully.

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    7 ай бұрын

    If you don’t lose once in a while then its like watching movies that you always know how it ends….boring

  • @Kaggles-ih3pu
    @Kaggles-ih3pu7 ай бұрын

    Wow it feels like it's almost been a decades since I saw Cap flying Tomcat for the last time

  • @estonedreveldo735
    @estonedreveldo7357 ай бұрын

    Hey cap! A interesting video idea would be to take a typically land based ground to air missle and strapping it to like a b-52 and seeing what insane ranges. Puld be therorehtically pulled off, such as strapping a patriot to said b-52 or strapping sa-10s to a tu-160 for the hell of it! Thanks for your time and efforts!

  • @jonathanpfeffer3716

    @jonathanpfeffer3716

    7 ай бұрын

    lol the airborne patriot concept is actually real too. bootleg ass LREW basically.

  • @CPT_Nelson
    @CPT_Nelson7 ай бұрын

    I'm not done with this video but it's already amazing. My question is, what would your ideal server setup look like? If you did not have any money constrains. Just curious. ;-)

  • @douglasarthur2673

    @douglasarthur2673

    7 ай бұрын

    You seen the Big Board in the Pentagon War Room or the virtual screens in the MI5 building ? Something like that.

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo6687 ай бұрын

    I believe the expression in Latin is Morituri te Salutant (we who are about to...etc)

  • @mfreed40k
    @mfreed40k7 ай бұрын

    Tomcat and Phoenix are really underperforming in core game.

  • @snickolls507

    @snickolls507

    7 ай бұрын

    I'd say both Phoenix and 120-C are

  • @Nightdare

    @Nightdare

    6 ай бұрын

    @@snickolls507 Agreed, just looking at the speed of the Phoenix ingame, it hardly manages to catch a plane (saying nothing about actually hitting it) before getting into AIM7 range

  • @moshigoshi6691
    @moshigoshi66917 ай бұрын

    Potential thought - don’t think I’ve seen it yet. Arleigh Burke any flight version vs Atlantic WW2 Wolfpack? (Basically could 1 Burke be enough to defend the whole convoy plus take out a whole u-boat pack)

  • @theswiller85
    @theswiller857 ай бұрын

    Honest question. Wouldn’t the AWCS be operating as close to the enemy as possible with out being detected? Or at least the enemy’s max fire range?

  • @flyman0xp721
    @flyman0xp7217 ай бұрын

    this reminds me of the opening naval battle in Red Storm Rising by Tom Clancy...with similar results.

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip7 ай бұрын

    Shoutout to Cap's AI targeting computer's enthused commentary

  • @strambino1
    @strambino17 ай бұрын

    AI F-14s do better against fighters when they are armed with AIM-7M. The AI F-14 struggles to the AIM-54 anytime fighters are added.

  • @patricktho6546
    @patricktho65467 ай бұрын

    21:40 they definitely improved the fire everything button in the last decades

  • @snickolls507
    @snickolls5077 ай бұрын

    GRs, I personally don't care usually if the US loses. This is not because of being anti-US or anything, but rather acknowledging the realities of combat. Things aren't going to go perfectly. Systems can fail. Missiles can misfire. Enemies will use advanced tactics to take away advantages. As Cap says at the end of the video, there is a lot the US and US players can learn from missions where the US fails. This can be anything from learning how the game or mods needs to be updated to extrapolating real life lessons to plan for what to do if a ship is taken out of action or has errors. I know it is a long time ago, but my best example is the USS South Dakota at the Naval Battle of Guadalcanal. An electrical switchboard error knocked out power to most of the ship right as it entered combat, taking away one of two capital ships the US had in the fight. Planning for such unlikely scenarios is exactly how the US military trains because it has found itself in such scenarios during critical missions too often. So tell anyone who gets mad to go read some history. Shit happens in combat. Adapt and overcome. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off and learn for the future scenarios. No excuses.

  • @user-og4vk6mc9i
    @user-og4vk6mc9i7 ай бұрын

    Try adding more tags to the video too, it could help

  • @JaneCobbsHat
    @JaneCobbsHat7 ай бұрын

    You really should try to play out the Red Storm Rising naval battles.

  • @johncrichton4341
    @johncrichton43417 ай бұрын

    Jesus Cap - this could be the GR's magnum opus - it's fantastic!

  • @johncrichton4341

    @johncrichton4341

    7 ай бұрын

    Also, another Cap corker "Fuel? Just don't look at it...". Quality.

  • @Four9sFineJewelry
    @Four9sFineJewelry7 ай бұрын

    Correct me if I’m wrong, wouldn’t a carrier strike group consist of more support ships? Destroyers?

  • @kingoftheneeks3623

    @kingoftheneeks3623

    7 ай бұрын

    I th8nk they'd have spruance class destroyers

  • @jyralnadreth4442
    @jyralnadreth44427 ай бұрын

    Replace the OHP with Type 22 Batch 3 if possible (12×2 Sea Wolf with 2 Frigs) Batch 3 also had Goalkeeper CIWS and Sea Wolf was superior to SM-1

  • @t44e6
    @t44e67 ай бұрын

    He said wonderfully! Wheeeeeeeeeee!

  • @FlyingWithSpurts
    @FlyingWithSpurts7 ай бұрын

    I've hit 1.5+M at 50,000ft with a 4/2/2 load in the F-14A. You can get speed and efficiency.

  • @dampsok

    @dampsok

    7 ай бұрын

    You and I both are talking about this sim. Yes, the TF30 engines in the A model are superior in "this" very specific context. However, Simba likes the GE engines and has his opinion based on his work experience. I'm not going to argue with an SME.

  • @FlyingWithSpurts

    @FlyingWithSpurts

    7 ай бұрын

    @@dampsok The GE is the better engine overall by a long shot. I'm more pointing out that running out of fuel at 1.7M at 34,000ft isn't as helpful as "sipping" fuel at 1.5+ at 50k+ since that gives the Phoenix the thin air it needs most for range. I've not tried that in the GE but I am sure it can still do it.

  • @c0ldyloxproductions324
    @c0ldyloxproductions3247 ай бұрын

    Why isnt the Iowa class battleship in this task force, they were active at the time and did occasionally get put into a carrier taskforce

  • @warrior3614
    @warrior36147 ай бұрын

    The Tu-160 are being modernized to have a missile radar in the rear of the airplane and it can also shoot air to air missiles in reverse at targets behind them.

  • @user-ui1kv8lo5l
    @user-ui1kv8lo5l6 ай бұрын

    That's how we took out carriers in Harpoon.

  • @thatwormhole1760
    @thatwormhole17607 ай бұрын

    Next you should do something like the falklands war while your in the 80’s theme

  • @sumtingwong8768
    @sumtingwong87687 ай бұрын

    You would make a great Air Force 13B3 ABM (Air Battle Manager)

  • @dgthe3
    @dgthe37 ай бұрын

    This is why a standing combat air patrol is important

  • @joshualincoln7191
    @joshualincoln71917 ай бұрын

    Well, that was a little depressing lol. Still, I will lose sleep for a GR video any day.

  • @willwozniak2826
    @willwozniak28267 ай бұрын

    Nice...Happy Veterans Day to The Americans and all!

  • @jmtpolitico80
    @jmtpolitico807 ай бұрын

    Ok so I got Third! Well it's my favorite # anyways so I will take it! Favorite # for some in the U.S. that may remember who's #3 that was in the world of Motor Sports! Who knows who I am talking about??? And who remembers that Tragic Day it was for us Fans!!!

  • @lord-REDACTED-
    @lord-REDACTED-7 ай бұрын

    You guys should link up with operator drewski

  • @xpk0228
    @xpk02287 ай бұрын

    funny that KH22 being a high supersonic missile with a worse sensor can hit more than 1 target when fired by a bunch of bomber 200NM away who don't even see the ships, but the AGM84s fired by the F18s at 80NM with a lock on ships all goes dumb and 100 missile hit 1 ship. DCS missile logic seems to favor the Russians to me, as we still don't know how well these semi ballistic AShM works even today. CEP of Kh22 is like 100~300M even in Soviet docs, meaning half of them will miss when firing at a static carrier without any defense. I don't think DCS is fitted for these old tech at least for now since every Soviet missile is working like black magic shit.

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    Yes I could not agree with you more. There are some stupid idiosyncrhises(spelling?) in game like this. On the plus side it gives us a big challenge.

  • @danilomatos5423
    @danilomatos54237 ай бұрын

    Weird how phoenix missiles are performing so poorly in these series (the last video ussr carrier group vs us they missed a lot as well)

  • @mstevens113

    @mstevens113

    7 ай бұрын

    They aren't great against fighters, they were after all intended to knock down bombers due to their anti ship missile threat (a threat well and truly proven here!). Trouble is by ignoring the migs to launch phoenix at the bombers it leaves the migs free to target the f14s, the phoenix needs guided part of the way to target by the f14 before it's smaller radar can take over, the f14 needs to survive long enough for that. They need a flight of f14s to mix it up with the migs and keep them occupied, the remainder of the f14s being under orders to launch only at the bombers, the AI isn't smart enough for tactics like this though.

  • @egoalter1276

    @egoalter1276

    7 ай бұрын

    The phoenix is a shallow arc ballistic missile. It has very poor terminal manouverability.

  • @5Andysalive
    @5Andysalive7 ай бұрын

    Does Jester sound ever so slightly a bit like Dampsok?

  • @mstevens113
    @mstevens1137 ай бұрын

    US navy doctrine would be to have f14s flying BARCAP when operating that close to a land threat with AWACS positioned to give maximum warning time of any threat.

  • @Maeyanie
    @Maeyanie7 ай бұрын

    5:40: TBF, if the AWACS was scouting out hundreds of miles ahead of the carrier group, it'd probably just get shot down by MiG-31s... having it close to the carrier SAM net the way you're doing is fairly believable.

  • @user-fp2gr4ic3x
    @user-fp2gr4ic3x7 ай бұрын

    I live in Stockholm Sweden . Apologize me being so critical! but i have seen hundreds of these kind of videos from you and growling sidewinders etc.. good job mostly but this one and the one with the russian atack at the important island Gotland was not realistic i think. And again, why didnt you launched the f18c earlier, they were sitting duck when the migs misile start raining at the carriers. Understand that you do the best you can, and who am i to critizice, but can you please explain why they didnt was launched earlier???? Have a nice time and do more videos like this. You give us much fun and knowledge 😊

  • @tituslaronius
    @tituslaronius7 ай бұрын

    didn't Mooch say in a video that they would NEVER shoot the 54s outside of 40NM?

  • @DK-ig8zi
    @DK-ig8zi7 ай бұрын

    Guys : is it me or the maths are not mathing ? 48 bombers × 3 missiles per plane = 144 antiship missiles not 122 missiles And 48 bombers + 20 fighters = 68 planes not 64 Other than that : great videos as always

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    Sorry, it was a bit of a rush job getting it all together. I made some last minute changes and forgot to update various texts.

  • @paulcadden4967
    @paulcadden49677 ай бұрын

    Love it when reality comes true in your Sims 😂

  • @ripplesnake
    @ripplesnake7 ай бұрын

    Big volcano is about to pop off in Iceland. Just letting everyone know who doesn't. Good vid Capt.

  • @BluegrassKnight
    @BluegrassKnight7 ай бұрын

    Damnit Cap, 2 Carriers, now they'll be raising taxes again!!!

  • @HighSideHustler81
    @HighSideHustler817 ай бұрын

    Hey guys, I think there is a bandit 31 11:00 low 3 miles out ,, 😂

  • @Shanks9001_
    @Shanks9001_7 ай бұрын

    Would a 1990s US carrier group vs 2020s UK carrier group be possible

  • @dexlab7539

    @dexlab7539

    7 ай бұрын

    Only if 2020 tugs were available for UK 😂

  • @jasonsekwadi9740
    @jasonsekwadi97407 ай бұрын

    Hi Cap could you re-run this sim but with Russia having a modern fleet (2023). It will be interesting to see how well the American Reserve fleet (mothball fleet) defends itself against a Russian Carrier attack.

  • @GrumpyGamerGuy
    @GrumpyGamerGuy7 ай бұрын

    This made my soul hurt a little..

  • @Decrepit_biker
    @Decrepit_biker7 ай бұрын

    Vampire! Vampire! Vampire!

  • @ArmandKarlsen
    @ArmandKarlsen7 ай бұрын

    Longtime watcher, first time commenter... why do the F-18s get called "bogs"?

  • @user-fp2gr4ic3x

    @user-fp2gr4ic3x

    7 ай бұрын

    Because they only stayed at the carrier till it was to late!!! why!!!!!

  • @cwherls1
    @cwherls17 ай бұрын

    did the OHPs even fire?

  • @grimreapers

    @grimreapers

    7 ай бұрын

    Checked replay and they fired but sporadically and rate of fire was poor.

  • @TheMaleRei
    @TheMaleRei7 ай бұрын

    "Vampire! Vampire! Vampire!"

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