Love the Yellow Dots!!! What A GREAT BALL in that era. My favorite to this day.

I was at the qualifying for this tournament during the week. Trivia: The "Mel" in "Mel's Southshore Bowl" is the same "Mel" that owned the famous Mel's Diner. Also owned Mel's Bowl in Redwood City.

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

Great trivia info _!_

@josephambrose2852

6 ай бұрын

Please post positive proof pronto Pics preferred

Roth's power is impressive. Ball technology took away the advantage of being a power player.

@douglasskaalrud6865

Жыл бұрын

Roth’s ball got progressively stronger when combined with his style so I don’t think any advantage was lost. In fact, the players throwing the new balls had a far greater disadvantage because they had to learn how to read their ball’s reaction differently. The biggest losers in the advent of the new game were the strokers who counted on speed and accuracy. Any semblance of either of those in the new game was purely coincidental.

Marshall Holman v. Mark Roth - The Rivalry. Anyone else notice that this affiliate feed originated from Holman's hometown?

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

Hard for any real bowler not to think of Marshall when Medford is mentioned.

@timothyhodges705

2 күн бұрын

​@@20alphabetain't that the truth...Does he still live there in 2024?

Any time you had both Marshall Holman and Mark Roth in a tv bowling final you were happy!

This was an aircheck from KMED-TV Medford, Oregon, which was affiliated with both ABC and NBC. Since this was "Recorded", I suspect that with the time difference between Oregon and the East Coast that KMED aired the NBC sports programs live and was able to show that day's ABC sports coverage after 3 P.M. Pacifistic time.

Lets wish Mark Roth good health get better soon

@dnx112

11 ай бұрын

RIP to the cranker Roth.

“...the use of a Ford Pinto Cruising Wagon for a year!” Whoa! Don’t get rear-ended in that thing.

@joeambrose3260

3 жыл бұрын

1980 Pinto, one of the best cars I ever had. 2 cross continent trips

@jimhresko9102

3 жыл бұрын

that wasn't a prize! more like a death trap.

Mark Roth and Marshall Holman are very impressive when they always face each other in the stepladder matches

@bufb

3 жыл бұрын

I miss those days

@terencediamond356

2 жыл бұрын

Me 2

When Marshall Holman left that big split in the 8th frame I thought he would either kick out a foul light or destroy a ball return or something.

@dnx112

11 ай бұрын

He is creepy like that.

I'm nearly certain that George Pappas is throwing a Star Trak ball. I had one of those balls. They were sort of the hot ball for a brief period. Hollow center, as I recall. About 75-77 hardness. Came in just the one color, that powder blue, about the same color as pool cue chalk.

@Bradley75062

9 жыл бұрын

BowlingOldies MSG i'm certain as well..

@20alphabet

6 жыл бұрын

I have 3 undrilled 16# in case you're interested.

@ibpsupplyman

3 жыл бұрын

I had one of these balls myself. Same thing, same color as you say. Good ball at the time.

@jimhresko9102

3 жыл бұрын

the Force lll. one of the first urethane balls.

@isaysee

2 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong , and just out of curiosity --- but "hollow center" is/was illegal sanction wise . Could have been a cork center - or something very very light ( Phil Cardinali would know )

Yes, Palmer Fallgren is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet in life. ABC loved him as a stastician. "Bo" Burton loved him, the PBA loved him too. Just one of the people in life that is impossible to dislike. Holman, like or dislike, was controversial at that time. Yet, when his accomplishments are looked at, he's quite impressive. He's even more impressive when you're an avid bowler and you watch him bowl in person. And, as a person, he's kind of like Palmer. A really nice guy. His antics lead people to believe that he's arrogant. He really isn't arrogant at all. He's very self-assured and that flair that he has turns some people off. He has been generous to people in all walks of life but he was certainly controversial. He had such a strong practice work ethic and from 1976-1980, he made great strides in his mental and physical game too. What a competitive nature he has. Once, urethane equipment was created, it helped him even more. Then, ball manufacurers came out with some softer urethane balls and it level the playing field. Some of the players that didn't have much lift & turn on the ball were able to get the ball to hook harder and hit the pins harder. Holman still had some great years but some of the other top players were able to win more. Great players like Walter Ray Williams. And shot makers like David Ozio and Brian Voss. As always, top of the line announcing from Nelson Burton JR. Hats off to him as well. He knows all of the facets of bowling, he knows the players very well and has a lot of enthusiasm for professional bowling. These vintage telecasts provided me with great memories as a junior bowler. And yes, professional bowling has survived through the years and Eddie Elias and the 33 charter members must be very satisfied. Without Eddie Elias & ABC Sports and the expertise of "Bo Burton" announcing, the PBA would not have continued to prosper. Of course, bowling was popular during the 50's with team bowling. Elias saw Dick Weber, Don Carter bowl with the Budweiser team and saw an opportunity for professional bowling.😀

Aired on ABC Saturday, January 15, 1977.

@barbaradarnell7376

3 жыл бұрын

Six days after the Raiders had won Super Bowl eleven.

@MrRemark21

3 жыл бұрын

That was a week after my babysitter night with my babysitters Karen (Cullen) and Karla Stoddard (Smith) (age 16) & first time attempt Andrea Munns (Guillaume) (age 14).

2:34 Elvis Burton Jr...thank you very much!!

Jeez the tykes that won the pro-am got better trophies than the guys who win a major nowadays!

I thought Marshall was going to kick something, given that he got beat at the end!

Bowling is sometimes Monkey see , monkey do. I Love the sport, and it has evolved wirh technology. A few years back a Rookie named " Osku Palermaa" from Finland was Bowling 2 handed for his first time ever on television and Randy Pedersen said " I have never seen this on PBA television before!!! Not too long after Mr. Palermaa made his debut, a ton of Younger Bowlers are Rolling with No thumb and 2 handed Delivery.

Do you have commercials of Firestone tires of the year 1977?

Mel's South Shore Bowl!!!

I agree with lsmftymf below - Roth / Holman was like a few other great rivalries of the era- Palmer / Nicklaus, Evert / Navratilova and Connors / McEnroe, Ali / Frazier. Seldom if ever disappointed.

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

An astute take, for sure. Both Jewish, and doubles partners. But in match play there was no love lost.

How can KMED, showing NBC symbol, be showing the ABC Pro Bowlers Tour?

@shawnaeby7220

Ай бұрын

I wondered the same thing for a moment. But it was not uncommon for stations to have dual affiliations in those days, and KMED had a dual ABC/NBC affiliation (its radio station was NBC radio, it shared ABC-TV with another station) from 1961-1977. It was sold later on in 1977, and today it is known as KTVL, with a primary CBS affiliation and secondary CW affiliation (on one of its digital subchannels).

2nd place gets the use of a ford pinto for TWO years.

@bufb

3 жыл бұрын

I had a lousy pinto once

@sludge4125

3 жыл бұрын

@@bufb Did it explode?

Bad hair day for Bo Burton!

why not leave the commercials in? Easy enough to fast forward them.... I also see a Medford, Or pattern here....oh...and thanks for this.

Seem weird to see Marshall Holman with hair and no mustache

MR. KOTTERRRR!

R.I.P. MARK ROTH

38:40 leaves a 4 pin ,not a 7 pin

Was Holman a buddy of yours? This show was broadcast in Medford.

@Revs300

Жыл бұрын

Did I know him personally no I actually just met him for the 1st time this summer in Maine

Those pins sound heavier than todays pins.

@beeemm2578

10 ай бұрын

Yeah, the bowler had to do the work then, not the ball or conditions. Now its get the ball in the general area and kaboom. Wasnt like that once upon a time

The Ford Open should have offered the Gran Torino .Now that's a car!!

@crgray1979

Жыл бұрын

If a player rolled a perfect game, they get a thunderbird

Wow

Now look at the pro tour It Sucks.

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more with you _!_

@Igloo3471

3 жыл бұрын

@@20alphabet Agreed! All two-handed land-crabs, and miserable 420+ rpm stone faces with all the personality of cardboard occasionally screeching like autistic kids everytime they throw a winning shot, endless ball reps "talking shop". Flashing light gimmicks to entertain the terminally stupid, poorly attended tv shows full of halfwits screaming and carrying on like retards. Don't even get me started on the commentators. My goodness, total shitshow. Not even proper Tour anymore.

@kevinjohnson4599

2 жыл бұрын

You are 1,000%. This was when bowling was bowling. The Pro Bowlers Tour is not the same anymore like it was years ago. The PBA Tour is now CRAP.

@jerryneubauer1484

Жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more...

Tpb's theme inspiration 1:19

Mark roth is still the best of all tlme

@stevejorfi9086

6 жыл бұрын

Earl.

@georgewodicka4839

6 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the greatest right- hander, but Earl Anthony is the greatest bowler of all-time, bar none.

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgewodicka4839 Of his era, yes. Don Carter is largely considered the greatest bowler of all time.

@georgewodicka4839

3 жыл бұрын

@@20alphabetNobody in the bowling community considers Don Carter the greatest bowler of all-time. While Carter was a legendary figure, when the PBA published their list on January 25, 2009 of the 50 greatest bowlers of all-time, Don Carter wasn't even in the top 10, placed at #11. Earl Anthony was #1.

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgewodicka4839 Reread the comment.

Chris Shenkel was the best!

Imagine if this was sponsored by Chevy and winning a Vega wagon for a year!

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

In hindsight, the loser should've had to drive a Vega for a year 😆lol

Wouldn't know Steve Jones if he fell on me Did he ever win again ?

I AM GOING TO BE 55 YEARS OLD GET 5 BOWLING GAMES OVER 200! CHRIS HOCH

1:05:58 Remember, that doesn't count. I know they marked it a zero though. Once a ball goes into the channel, it is a dead ball. Even if it manages to get the ten, that's not counted.

10:31 lmao...Fallgren wanting to be part of the ABC Superstars....lol. He wasnt even a superstar bowler. The comments made by Schenkel and Burton about him here and there give me the impression Fallgren was only interested in becoming a celebrity....which is probably why he didn't become one. 13:33 here Bo basically admits it. Pro tip: when you go into something to become 'a big star' or celebrity, you can bet the farm you'll be anything but..

Harry Golden always wore a horrible rug!! You think with all the money he had he could have had better rugs!! 😂😂😂😂😂

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

He knew how to run the Tour, that's for sure!

The $75,000 Ford Open. Wow, what a huge purse by a multi-billion dollar company. Goes to show how little respect bowling gets.

@sludge4125

4 жыл бұрын

Yet, the old timers claim this was the golden era.

@20alphabet

3 жыл бұрын

Keep in mind you could get 3bdrm 2bath house with a two car garage in southern California in 1977 for under $60K... and a good new car $7K.

@sludge4125

3 жыл бұрын

The inflation calculator informs us that $75,000 in 1977 money is equivalent to about $321,000 today. First prize was $8,000, which is equivalent to about $34,200 today. The top salary in mlb in 1977 was $560,000 (mike schmidt). The average salary was $76,100. The average nfl salary in 1977 was $55,000. Anyway, in 1977, a bowler would have to win ten (10) non majors to make as much as an average major leaguer. Of course, the bowler either has a sponsor, or is paying his own expenses. This trend mirrors bowling’s decline.

@sludge4125

3 жыл бұрын

A base 1977 Ford LTD four door was about $5152.

@beeemm2578

Жыл бұрын

@@sludge4125 and got 3 feet to the gallon

George Pappas had no luck at all.

My Grandma always called that midget holman creep holman. 😮 😂