1977-78 Short-Lived TV Shows
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This video is a compilation of most of the shows that were new, and (quickly) cancelled -
or not renewed - from the 1977-78 prime time TV schedule. Please note, I don't always use the TV shows intro. Some of them aren't permitted, or they aren't available (not in circulation). There were a few shows that didn't have much other than a few photos to work with.
This follows the days of the week, and the specific time slot that these shows would have fallen on. Not to mention, the shows that they were up against that were playing on the other networks.
I'd like to thank:
- Chuck D's All-New Classic TV Clubhouse - Free Country/Jackie & Darlene Promo
- David Gideon (various intros/outros)
- Bionic Disco (various commercials)
- Gen X TV Memories (various commercials)
- RwDt09 (hours of enjoyment)
For information, I generally refer to:
- IMDB
- Wikipedia
- The Complete Directory to Prime Time Network and Cable TV Shows (Seventh Edition)
#quark #logansrun #tabitha #retrotv #manfromatlantis
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On Our Own comes in at an over all #30 and gets cancelled. harvey korman comes in at 15 and gets the axe! that is crazy. those shows probably brought in numbers that modern shows can not even dream of.
When I first saw the opening for the Hanna Barbera Happy Hour, I thought I was high.
"We've Got Each Other," cause no one else would have us.
Can't imagine the work that goes into these videos...Brings back a lot of memories from my junior high and high school days.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
A lot of work! I'm trying to capture (as best as I can) that feeling of back in the day; though I was barely alive at the time. I have very fond memories of the late '70s/early '80s. Thank you for watching!
@pooddescrewch8718
20 күн бұрын
I was only 8 years old . I am shocked at how much of these I actually remember
Watching this, no wonder I quit watching TV while at college in the late 70's.
@arkady714
Ай бұрын
Same here. When I got to college, no one had a TV. I didn't miss it at all.
@halseyknox
Ай бұрын
So true....left a comment echoing yours....even the commercials seem to be rearing their corporate agenda back then
@diannas2676
Ай бұрын
I was a senior in high school during this time period. I don't recall seeing any of these new shows. I guess I was busy having too much fun!
@1981menso
Ай бұрын
Right? I stopped as well in the late 70's. Did a lot of reading and outdoors stuff.
@johnjones3813
22 күн бұрын
That's a good sign, you were studying.
Your videos are very well researched and put together. I really get a lot of enjoyment out of them. Great work!
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you! And thank you, for watching!
Richard Pryors show only lasted for 4 episodes because he kept getting censored and after appearing basically nude in the final episode he told the executives to stick it...
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
28 күн бұрын
What do you expect from a comedian who does adult humor?. NBC THOUGHT THAT RICHARD PRYOR WOULD BE LIKE RED SKELTON?
@thingserik7269
9 күн бұрын
How you like your shrimp?
I really enjoy your channel and i like the way you edit the intros with the promos and commercials... well done👍
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Many thanks Jesper! I really appreciate reading that!
Helen Hunt was instantly recognizable even as a young teenage girl.
@docsavage8640
7 күн бұрын
Unfortunately for her
at 22:37 an early Taco bell commercial. Patrick Duffy is the person working the window. too funny!
While Redd Foxx was failing on his own, his old sitcom, retooled as "The Sanford Arms", was flopping as well.
The fact that “Sugar Time” flopped, then was brought back and flopped again proves there’s hope for humanity.
@davestewart2067
10 күн бұрын
There were likely many watching for “jiggle” factors.
@yazpistachio4901
6 күн бұрын
Girls jumping on trampolines…ahead of their time
@meheuck
Күн бұрын
It was one of two shows that were attempting to copy a successful UK series, "ROCK FOLLIES," which ran for two seasons and spawned a successful soundtrack album; it aired on some US PBS stations. The breakout star from that show was infamous Alberto VO5 spokeswoman Rula Lenska. The official US adaptation was called "THE ROCK RAINBOW," but never made it past the pilot; "SUGAR TIME!" was a copycat, but because Komack was the stronger producer at the time, his show got the bigger push.
I was 10 years old in 1978, back when there were only the three big networks. Due to some merciful Act of God, nearly all these shows were wiped from my memory--until now!!
@docsavage8640
7 күн бұрын
And yet compared to what they're producing now that seems like a Golden Age
I sure enjoy spending time with your work. Thanks again.
@robertsretrorewind5853
3 күн бұрын
Thank you Dace, much appreciated!
Little House on the Prairie was a frigging juggernaut this season!
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
Me-why must we watch Little House? Nellie Oleson-BECAUSE I SAID SO!
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
@@bobdavis4848 Alison Angrim was very nice IRL
@Quartzquiz333
Ай бұрын
@donaldpaluga Alison Arngrim is an absolute sweetheart and very funny! Her and Melissa Gilbert are still good friends to this day. I always thought that the Oleson family was the most relatable family on television. Every girl knew a spoiled brat like Nellie, every boy knew a toady little brother like Willie, every woman knew a gossipy battle-axe like Harriet and every man knew a long-suffering husband like Nels. The Olesons, especially Nellie, were easily the show's most popular characters.
@Quartzquiz333
Ай бұрын
@@bobdavis4848I saw Margaret Hamilton on Mister Rogers' Neighborhood when I was a kid. She was the complete opposite of her Wicked Witch of the West character!
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
Ай бұрын
Little House on the Prairie sucks
Mithcell Ryan: Working Actor, he never phoned it in. RIP Mitch.
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
Ай бұрын
Richard Pryor was an adult humor Comedian. You know that he was going have adult humor. Sketches & profanity.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
28 күн бұрын
Mitchell Ryan usually played villains on nighttime TV shows.
@deeceea9488
27 күн бұрын
First seen on Dark Shadows
@johnjones3813
22 күн бұрын
Great actor.
@Kevin-wr9um
22 күн бұрын
And he got a good guy role in another short run show Chase, produced by Jack Webb!
I love how you show a commercial with someone who is in the following show and guess what show is coming up😂
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
I'm happy to hear that you appreciate that! Many thanks!
@thebrinx9632
Ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 I like it too!
Just discovered your channel and it’s awesome content. Appreciate the care and fun you put into your posts.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you Matthew! I really appreciate that!
@matthewburns316
Ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 of course, as gen Xer who loves the 70s/80s era, I hope you continue the Short-lived series into the 80s and 90s. Lol no pressure
On Our Own wins its time slot…and gets cancelled. Brutal!
@aleks1939
Ай бұрын
Yeah, I didn't get that either. The user reviews on IMDB are mixed, but 10 reviews is actually a lot for a one season show.
@aleks1939
Ай бұрын
After reading some of the reviews, most of the positive ones are from people who lived or grew up in and around NY. I wonder if the show did poorly on the West coast which led to it being cancelled because advertisers wouldn't support a show that's only strong in one region.
@oneeyedman99
Ай бұрын
I remember that series, my younger sister absolutely loved it. It was a big hit at the start, finishing in the top ten for I believe the first month or so. After that it kept sliding further and further down, by the spring it was getting clobbered. I don't know what happened to turn it from one of the biggest hits on television to one of the biggest flops in just a few months.
@luisreyes1963
Ай бұрын
Just another throwaway "feminist" Sitcom. 🗑️
@aleks1939
Ай бұрын
@@luisreyes1963 I much prefer the sitcom with the chicks in the bikinis 🤣
Anything that went against little house on the prairie was doomed to fail I noticed
@docsavage8640
7 күн бұрын
Which is bizarre given that show is so dull
I had a stroke that year-I was 13. Severe (and I mean severe) abuse and neglect will do that to a child. I am struggling to remember most of this… but I have to try to revive my memory somehow..
@ronatopaz2793
Ай бұрын
Just saw someone I remembered-yay! Redd Foxx aka John Frederick Sanford (his real name). Ping!
@pooddescrewch8718
20 күн бұрын
I was only 8 . This certainly takes me back .
@kevincampbell5785
14 күн бұрын
Sorry to hear that.
The Freshen Up gum commercial @ 42:15 starring Beverly Archer followed by the promo for the failed Beverly Archer series We've Got Each Other is so 70's TV
I remember Sugar Time--but all the rest saw it as a forgotten show! Could have lasted until at least 1986.
“Rosetti and Ryan” - the story of two guys who get law degrees so they can hang around the courthouse and gawk at women.
I find it fascinating that a careful observer can see the difference between the video titling systems of the major networks. Like the titles for the NBC Chuck Barris show are clearly from the same graphics system as the early titles on SNL or in The Rutles movie. ABC and CBS also had distinctive looks/fonts.
TNT had an awesome commercial for Logan's Run when they aired reruns in the '90s: "Because life really is over when you're thirtysomething."
The Fitzpatricks went up against Happy Days and Laverne and Shirley. Dead. Show. Walking.
@edwardott7239
Ай бұрын
And to imagine, a young (and gorgeous for her age!) Helen Hunt was in that show.
@guykipp2905
Ай бұрын
The Fitzpatricks and Mulligan's Stew looked like the same exact series.
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
CBS and NBC wanted the same kind of success ABC had with 'EIGHT IS ENOUGH"......and if ABC had scheduled a successful sitcom about a roller skating chimp who was also a concert pianist- and living with a sappy family- the other networks would have copied THAT idea, too. 🙄
@radicalross7700
Ай бұрын
@@guykipp2905Nonsense! Aside from featuring a large Irish American family, those two shows had nothing in common.
I was only a few months old when these aired: now that I've seen these intros, I wish I could see the shows.
Surprised Suzanne Crough got cast on another family show after Partridge Family.
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
28 күн бұрын
Suzanne Crough hardly had any dialogue on The Partridge Family.
This is really great stuff. Thank you for the memories. Some of these I don't even remember...😀
@robertsretrorewind5853
16 күн бұрын
Great to hear! Thank you for watching!
This is AMAZING!! About 89% of these shows I've never heard of before. I was in Jr. High, and I must've been too busy for prime time that year. I remember some show titles and certainly many of the actors, but I certainly didn't put any of these shows on my schedule. Thanks for posting this. I do remember they tried soooooooooo hard to get Suzanne Sullivan in to a successful, prime time show. Guest spots (and many of them on commercials) was almost all she could achieve.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you Mark! You're right about Susan Sullivan. I mean, for me, watching her on "It's a Living" (free on Tubi), and her getting the boot, makes ZERO sense to me. I always think of her in the same light as Mariette Hartley; I used to confuse the two. Sullivan and Shelley Fabares could have been in a race to see who would land on a successful show first!
@robertstoddard3626
24 күн бұрын
Me neither !
"MULLIGAN'S STEW" threw me for a loop when it debuted because there was a 1972 an educational show still airing in reruns on my PBS station called "MULLIGAN STEW". Ultimately, I watched neither show.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Күн бұрын
I'm glad you pointed that one out. I watched a segment of the one from '72 not long ago.
Awesome topics man. Thanks for your hard work 😊
@robertsretrorewind5853
10 күн бұрын
Much appreciated! Thank you Marco!
I'm impressed at how few of these shows I recall. "Quark", "The Man From Atlantis" and "Logan's Run" primarily, plus oh yeah, "James At 15."
@wyldemusick
Ай бұрын
I actually bought "Logan's Run" on iTunes.
@jeannehall6546
Ай бұрын
Lance Kerwin would become a minister. He passed away last year at age 62.
@teetoo3790
7 күн бұрын
Logan's Run and Man from Atlantis both had Marvel Comic books and that's the reason I remember them. Ha ha.
For me Tony Roberts is so talented that he gets blanket amnesty for any inferior work he is in
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
His father was veteran radio/TV announcer Ken Roberts, who worked on "THE SECRET STORM" for years {"Be sure to watch 'THE SECRET STORM" Monday and every day, Monday through Friday...."}.
@johnrunion5357
Ай бұрын
i agree ... even on amityville 3-d
I'm 7:55 into the video and I'm noticing a theme for why none of these shows stood a chance. Thing is if Little House were to air today I don't think I could sit through an episode but when I was seven my eves were glued to the television. We really did take what we could get back then and we appreciate every second of it.
That Master Charge commercial with Don Galloway and Patti Deutsch was a hoot!
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
No PRICELESS!
"James At 15" was a great show-Too bad NBC cancelled it.
@elldre3
Ай бұрын
'Amen to that, Scotty.'
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
Kim Richards wouldn't be unemployed for long....
@wannawatchu66
Ай бұрын
I remember Melissa Sue Anderson as James's girlfriend...until his family moved across the country. They moved from Oregon to Boston (or vice versa?) and he ran into Kate Jackson while hitchhiking back. On the way, he calls Lacey and tells her he's coming back to her. This is when she informs him that she is now involved with one of the jocks on the school football team. His bubble now burst, he aborts the pilgrimage and goes back to his new home, tail between his legs. If I remember correctly, this was the first show.
Great work! I know this took a lot of time. Thank you!
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
I appreciate you writing that Ken! Thank you for watching!
Baby...I'm Back, a show in which the African-American "hero" is a compulsive gambler and cad who walked out on his family, and only returned after seven years because his wife declares him legally dead so that she can remarry. Try creating THIS show in the 21st Century!
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
Ай бұрын
Black American
@redriderbbgun8018
22 күн бұрын
Honestly, it sounds like most POC I've know.
@Quartzquiz333
22 күн бұрын
@@redriderbbgun8018That's the trouble, it kinda hits close to home.
@redriderbbgun8018
22 күн бұрын
@@Quartzquiz333 😂😂
@kennethmcdonough835
10 күн бұрын
I know you couldn't do this one in the 21st century. My man would never COME back.
I remember the commercials more than some of the shows or actors!
@alaricabercrombie2692
Ай бұрын
Yeah, me too, lol 🤣
I forgot how many spectacularly bad TV shows there were back then, especially on NBC. I thought "James at 15/16" was a good show, and I was in love with Kim Richards. I was one of the 37 people who watched the "San Pedro Beach Bums." It is fascinating how NBC survived the 70s and then became a powerhouse in the 80s and 90s.
@nadinefluhr1497
11 күн бұрын
I agree, I grew up in the 70's and the intros to these shows are cringe inducing. TV shows are so much better now
@wannawatchu66
5 күн бұрын
After Fred Silverman's departure, NBC CEO Grant Tinker hired boy wonder Brandon Tartikoff. He made NBC the powerhouse it was in the 80s. NBC was bulletproof for several years.
After watching the intro to Mulligan's Stew I had to grab my Insulin What planet are these people from?
@brianarbenz1329
7 күн бұрын
It was the planet of, "Big families are fun! And easily affordable!" Other inhabitants of that planet were the Brady Bunch, The Partridge Family and Please Don't Eat the Daisies."
@wannawatchu66
5 күн бұрын
The same planet Family and Eight Is Enough are from.
i remember a lot of these: Tabitha, Logan's Run, Man from Atlantis, Quark, Class of '65,
I remember some of these shows, I was fifteen at the time. I remember we would start to get interested in a show, then it would get canceled. 📺
Thanks again for the memories, both good and bad…I started my senior year of high school in August of 1977 then my dad passed away in September of that year. My TV watching had become sporadic, but I still tried for what the critics or my mom and sister wanted to watch (also some of my critics….😮). I remember trying for Richard Pryor but only caught one show before the infamous network shuffle. PBS carried “I Claudius” on “Masterpiece Theater “ that year which drew my eye away from Network TV programming. Some short lived shows I remember watching were “A man from Atlantis” , “The Class of 65”, “Logan’s Run”. The disappointments: “Fish” “Sanford Arms” “Redd Fox Show” . Allot of the shows you shown I just don’t remember, or were so-bad my mind blanked out…😂! Have a great day!
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@steelers6titles
Ай бұрын
"I Claudius" was chosen in a poll as the "Masterpiece Theatre" series which viewers most wanted to see again, so it was rerun again several years later. It is classic.
I saw Baby I’m back several years ago in reruns and I liked it.
YES, I been waiting to see this one. The year I turned 9 a few weeks after the start of new seasons.
Tabitha: Robert Urich was acting in this show and Soap at the same time. His wife Heather Menzies was starring in Logan's Run. "The marriage was going straight to hell," he said. "Neither of us were too broken up when her series got canceled." (Tabitha was also csnceled, and he was killed off on Soap.)
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
28 күн бұрын
Heather Menzies was one of the Von Trapp daughters in the film, The Sound of Music.
Nothing can touch THREE'S COMPANY FOR A SITCOM DURING THAT TIME.... THE 70'S WERE A BEAUTIFUL DECADE ❤❤❤❤❤😂
@robertsretrorewind5853
15 күн бұрын
I've watched the run a dozen times over, and I'm still not bored of it. I have it on DVD, yet I'll still watch in on TV! If somebody, running tests on people (for whatever stupid experimental reason), said "Hey, here's a full time job, you have to watch 'Three's Company' on loop, but you must watch that show for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and you have to sign a 5-year contract." I'd say, "Where do I sign?" And... "Thank you."
@vashtikelly6837
15 күн бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 agree 💯💯, I wish I lived with them in that apartment 😉 and I can say that with Suzanne my favorite season with her was the 4th season as far as the whole look goes, but they made her dummer then, but the seasons with Teri on there were my favorite..
@robertsretrorewind5853
15 күн бұрын
@@vashtikelly6837 We're pretty lined-up on the seasons! My least favorite period (though I still like it) is when they introduced Cindy; and some of the earliest episodes. I don't think it was the right character for the show. The writers did a great job of introducing Teri (by comparison), making the viewer sympathetic when Jack and Larry were hazing/teasing her in that two-part episode. I also think that set is awesome, and it's funny how that outside of the sofa (and the walls in the girl's room), they never really updated anything. Same with the Regal Beagle, where I'd LOVE to hang out! That type of bar/pub/lounge's that don't exist anymore.
@vashtikelly6837
15 күн бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 yeah Suzanne was still tryna get her job back but it was too late and Cindy episodes were okay, did you notice that she never spoke to her cousin Chrissy when she called at the end of the show? 😂 I really hate that Suzanne let her husband mess up her career on that show.. when she seen they were losing the fight, she should have stopped him.. The spin off should have been Jack, Larry, and Mr Furley and the center would be Jack's restaurant. I loved the Roper's but Mr. Furley fit in better!!
@robertsretrorewind5853
15 күн бұрын
@@vashtikelly6837 Good call! She only talks to Janet! I was flipping through the endings just now for all of the season 5 episodes (once Cindy arrived). You know what I don't understand, Joyce DeWitt also had a similar problem with her contract, and she missed that one episode, where Linda (Anne Schedeen/the mom from ALF) is staying at the apartment instead. I wonder why that was okay with everyone, but why it was a problem when Suzanne Somers did a similar thing? I have no problem with either one getting what they felt that they deserved, and I like both women, but it seems a bit unfair in retrospect. Still, having said that, Suzanne Somers could have done it differently; like you were saying. It's too bad for her, she was a relatively big deal at the time. In recent years, I'd watched a few of her films that came out around that period, and I prefer her (in those movies) when she didn't act as dumb as her Chrissy character. Her character was a lot more normal at the beginning. On another note, I think that Suzanne Somers must be a great partner, since she stayed with the same guy all of those years. Sometimes I think she and Kate Jackson (and a few others) get the raw end of the deal with contract disputes, problems on the set, etc. And yes, I rewatched "Three's a Crowd" recently, and I prefer your idea. I'm not too crazy about Vicky, but that's probably because she signals the end of the show. Lots of fun chatting with you!
I was a senior in high school. I only remember and watched 2 shows out of the whole bunch! LOL
@tomloft2000
Ай бұрын
Aren't you lucky!
I'd watch Beverly Archer in anything, but she was a character actress. In street clothes, her resemblance to Billie Jean King made the casting of Beverly in a romantic comedy a bit suspect.
I don't know if anybody else has said about the San Pedro Beach Bums..."Football, you bet."
I think some of them where a lot better than the reality shows that they have now
Just couldn't beat Little House. Or Happy Days/Laverne and Shirley. It's funny how the "rural purge" really didn't last that long, with The Waltons and Little House being monster hits. It just morphed into dramas from comedy. Most of these appear to be wannabes of other hits. And trying to repeat the magic of the Mary Tyler Moore Show/Barney Miller/All in the Family with former cast members. NBC low point.
@user-fc3ki3gb7u
28 күн бұрын
All in the Family sitcom was legitimate trash!!!!
Redd Foxx left Sanford & Son for his variety show, S&S kept going on, the variety show fails, he goes BACK to Sanford & Son, son Lamont leaves for his show which bombs then tRedd leaves again and they try Sanford Arms which also bombs. What a ride.
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
Fred Silverman signed an exclusive contract with Foxx to move to ABC. By doing that, he virtually destroyed 'SANFORD & SON". After Redd's variety show tanked, and Silverman left ABC, Foxx was cut loose. In 1980, when Silverman was at NBC, he wanted to bring hin back as "SANFORD". And he did.....and by the time Fred left NBC in 1981, his show was cancelled {the ratings weren't that great}. Demond Wilson refused to appear on "THE SANFORD ARMS" becuase of a salary dispute. And his acting career was never the same.
@tonycanabal1659
Ай бұрын
Actually Redd first left S&S temporarily in 1974 in a contract dispute, and the show went on with Grady and Lamont. He left again, then S&S became Sanford Arms. Demond wanted no part in the Sanford show after his solo show tanked.
@MichaelWH
27 күн бұрын
@@tonycanabal1659 Then just "Sanford" with Dennis Burkley and Redd
In 1971-2, there were seven full season series and 14 half season... This season we had 2 full season 11 half. TV got worse instead of better just in the 70s, sheesh.
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
Oh, you noticed! 🤨
@johnjones3813
22 күн бұрын
All the Hollywood talent must have been in cinema, 70s American films were incredible.
What Really Happened To The Class Of 65 was a good show
You compile your videos with such care. 'no need to ask he's a smooth operator... smooth operator' Great stuff.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that!
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
Why throw Sade at him?😏
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
@@donaldpaluga Hey Donald, that's too much "Taboo" for my channel, even if it's the sweetest kind.
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 that was NO Ordinary Post😏
I was 10 years old and had the biggest crush on Lance Kerwin. It was painful😍💘 May he R.I.P
Others have already said this, but I think “James at 15/16” was probably the best of these shows, sensitively and thoughtfully written. It deserved a happier fate than one season. And a personal sidenote about the star of one of these shows: I grew up down the street from Mel Tillis and his family, though I only remember seeing him in person once.
@jackmessick2869
Ай бұрын
I believe ratings took a dive when he had sex with his girlfriend. A show ender in 1977.
@wannawatchu66
Ай бұрын
You grew up in Nashville?
I would like to offer my apologies to the creators of these shows for watching so much Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley.
Splendid Years~Splendid Memories...
@johnjones3813
22 күн бұрын
Really takes you back. Look how lighthearted the country seemed.
During the 1977-78 television season I can remember our family watching "Quark," "Logan's Run," and "Husbands, Wives & Lovers" (parents watched it, I was sent to my room during the show). Thanks again for the wonderful memories!
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you Ted!
There was a mall near me that had a picture of Beth Armstrong on the wall until the '90s along with other hairstyles. Always reminded me of this.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
I remember being (sort of) creeped out by that style in the late '80s/early '90s, watching something like "Dawn of the Dead" and other movies/shows that had women with that hairstyle. It's probably still not cool, but I actually really like that style now.
Tony Roberts was also a regular on the "CBS Mystery Theater" Radio Program around that same time
@johnrunion5357
Ай бұрын
about 3 winters ago i binged listened to the cbs mystery theater on youtube. it did seem like every other episode featured tony roberts and the in between episodes featured michael tolan. i recall reading the wikipedia page on the series and remembered this about the series : "When the program began in 1974, actors were paid union scale; at the time around $73.92 per episode. Writers earned a flat rate of $350 per episode. Production took place with assembly-line precision. Brown met with actors at 9:00 a.m. for the first script reading. After roles were assigned, recording began. By noon, the recording of the actors was complete, and Brown handed everyone checks. The program was taped in New York at the CBS Studio Building, 49 East 52nd Street in Studio G, formerly Studio 27 (renamed Studio 'G' in honor of Arthur Godfrey whose programs originated in the building for decades)"
@laurabeane8862
Ай бұрын
@@johnrunion5357 right. Good thing it wasn't Fred Gwynne (???)
@GeminiladyJackson-xq6hc
28 күн бұрын
@@laurabeane8862I listen to CBS Radio Mystery Theater every night. I love that radio program!!!!!
@johnjones3813
22 күн бұрын
They still had radio programs in the 70s?
@johnrunion5357
22 күн бұрын
@@johnjones3813 radio shows took a major hit with the advent of television in the 50's. i SUPPOSE most if not all of the original radio shows had died out by the 1960's. CBS Radio Mystery Theater was a revival of the format. it did not start until about 1974. however, a VERY few of the old classic radio shows did still air as repeated broadcasts at least into the 80's. i can remember listening to the superman radio shows of the 40's in the very late 70's/very early 80's after the success of the christopher reeve superman film. the shadow would pop up every great now and again on radio. a MO radio station played re-braodcasted episodes of lum and abner well into the 80's.
Another amazing collection of shows great job Rob. James at 15 was a quality show with a top performance from Lance kerwin. The Ted Knight show looked like an accident waiting to happen. Helen Hunt in The Fitzpatrick 's was probably to close to Mulligan 's stew they cancelled each other out.
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
Ted Knight wasn't too impressed with his first solo series, either. He was more comfortable doing "TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT" a few seasons later.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you Paul, I appreciate reading that! I couldn't agree more about "James at 15", and those two shows sort of cannibalizing each other. Of the shows that I've covered (thus far), "James at 15" is one of the ones that I like the most.
@donaldpaluga
Ай бұрын
@@fromthesidelinesI wonder if Caddyshack made Knight most amiable to another TV show
You had to go outside, then clean up, eat, watch an hour of tv then go to bed, school..... You could hear it though till you went to sleep...
there are some massive deep cuts from my childhood in this video. I love it
Not as many cop or action shows. I vaguely remember “Quark” but otherwise, don’t remember even hearing about these others. Fun to go back, though, and see the trends back then and the actors. A very enjoyable investment of 45 minutes. 👏🏼
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Great to hear Denis! Thank you for watching!
Junior High days.
The odds of being in a hit show are horrendously bad. First, the pilot you are in has to be picked up. Then it has to not be cancelled after 5 episodes. Then if it makes it through a complete season it has to be renewed. In some years the new shows get cancelled fast. Serials are left hanging and shows that networks had high hopes for (remember "Blood and Oil" with Don Johnson in 2016?) drop like flies. "What happened to the class of 65" was based on a non-fiction book. "Quark" is on DVD and has a cult following now. "Logans Run" with Heather Menzies in that pink miniskirt is (or was) on Tubi and is on DVD. It had definite possibilities but apparently audiences weren't interested.
Distinguished actor Patrick McGoohan called "Rafferty" "a disaster".
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
He did it for the paycheck.
@justmeandthethree
Ай бұрын
When I was in high school I got fired from a grocery store job after only two months, but it wasn't that big of a deal, and I found another job within a week. Having a TV show canceled after only three months must have been hugely embarrassing, and he was probably out in the street looking all stupid and asking people for underwear.
@mcqueenfanman
Ай бұрын
Nah. He just went on to make movies.
I also noticed The Man from Atlantis was still on while Patrick Duffy already was on Dallas
@luddite4change449
Ай бұрын
The show wasn't picked up for a second season early enough for Patrick Duffy to sign on to Dallas. According to the Wikipedia, two of the last 4 episodes overlapped with the first first episodes of Dallas.
As a 13 yr old I definitely remember Sugar Time .
@shiroibasketshoes
Ай бұрын
So was this guy, and so do I.
@onefatstratcat
14 күн бұрын
The lack of the wearing of the brassiere made late 70's tv a joy to watch :)
@shiroibasketshoes
13 күн бұрын
@@onefatstratcat You just reminded me of a particular braless Connie Sellecca "Flying High" scene I'll describe if you wish.
I was a big Quark fan!
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
The only reason NBC gave "QUARK" another chance- after the original 1977 pilot came and went- was because of the popularity of......."Star Wars".
@mikesternmike
Ай бұрын
Quark was hilarious
@acholl980
Ай бұрын
@@fromthesidelines Unfortunately NBC didn't bring back it's creator Buck Henry to over-see it which as The Best of Science Fiction TV book mentioned was the difference between survival and cancellation. Rumor has it that he was let go due to a disagreement on how much should be spent on the sets.
Amazing comp, and big thanks for the explainers between show trailers. The commercials were nice, too (Freshen Up was real, younguns, a gum with goop inside, lol). I wish I could help you with "We've Got Each Other", except that I've seen this trailer before, I think from the RwDt09 channel you cite in the Description. Nothing useful to add except that the writers and producers must've learned the limits of how much America was going to tolerate "realistic-looking", hideous people in a romantic dramedy. That these shows failed is unsurprising. Only one show, "Quark", stands out as something that coulda been a contender. I think it was supposed to be a cynical "Star Trek", and it might've worked if it hadn't been for the Osmonds and Wonder Woman. Which leads me to my next remark: TV was clearly in a holding pattern, waiting for the 70s to end, waiting for the fascination with the Osmonds to end, waiting for variety shows to die, waiting for people to tire of "Happy Days", "Laverne & Shirley", and all things late 50s/early 60s. Well, it wasn't THIS year. Yeah, "Star Wars" was new and influential, but space stuff was expensive (hence the failure of "Quark", no doubt). Elements of a few of these shows, however, would find life in much later TV series. The two that stood out for me: "James at 15 (16)" and "Whatever Happened to the Class of '65?" The 80s and 90s would mine the "realistic look at teenagers" vein to varying degrees of success. "Class of '65" is the grubby, unemployed dad to shows like "Family Ties", "thirtysomething", and "The Wonder Years". But most of these shows are reheated ideas, like 3-day-old leftovers. I counted at least 4 shows about Young Women Making It On Their Own, the network geniuses evidently forgetting that "Mary Tyler Moore" spent the past 7 years doing just that and was no longer even in the Top 20 by the time the show hurriedly quit before it got cancelled. Shows about 19th century rural America were rapidly going out of vogue as the decade wore on. Variety shows were having death gurgles in their forgotten beds. But most of these shows were the things I just described. And you know what? It got worse next year!
@robertsretrorewind5853
2 күн бұрын
A great read! Thank you for that! I had a 'thirtysomething" t-shirt, and you literally named my personal murderers' row of TV shows that I loved the most in the late '80s. I also have a bit of a soft spot for 'James at 15 (16)', especially that episode with Terri Nunn. I do think that 'Family' is becoming a bit of a lost gem. 'Lou Grant' sort of set the tone for '80s shows like 'Hill Street Blues' going forward as well. I'm a tad surprised that neither show has had a (full) DVD boxed set released; nor have they been streamed (at least to my knowledge). Whenever I periodically search to see if certain shows have been uploaded, 'We've Got Each Other', 'Husbands, Wives & Lovers', and 'The Waverly Wonders' are the three that I look for first and come up empty. I'm sure that 2 of the 3 (or all 3) are going to be pretty terrible, I just want to see it for myself. Again, I appreciate your post. I read it twice!
I was a teen through the 70s and they had new shows every week it seemed. Some shows you saw 2,3 times and that was it.
I never ever heard of any of this tv shows at all.
Betty White @8:00. Boy tv shows had long intros and theme songs that doesn’t hold up today.
@edwardott7239
Ай бұрын
And to think, Higgins from "Magnum, P.I. (the Tom Selleck original version) was her co-star! Wow!
@jamesw1659
Ай бұрын
The standard up into the eighties was 60 seconds. If you want to see a direct comparison, watch the opening credits from “Hawaii Five-0”, the original from 1968, and the remake from 2012. The energy and pace is massively faster to tell essentially the same story in half the time.
@johnjones3813
22 күн бұрын
The theme songs from the first couple shows in this video are excruciating.
James at 15, Man From Atlantis and Baby I’m Back were good shows
I listen to Golden Age of Radio programs online. I would love to see a channel which completely followed the scheduled line up of the Networks over the years
@teetoo3790
7 күн бұрын
I second that recommendation.
People weren’t watching tv in 77. They we at the movies watching Star Wars.
@brianarbenz1329
Ай бұрын
Well, when we came home from the movie theater, we watched TV.
@weltonvillegal6258
23 күн бұрын
I sure was.
@docsavage8640
7 күн бұрын
@mcqueenfanman anyone actually alive in 1977 knows otherwise Plus Saturday Night Fever was better than Star Wars in 1977
What I miss with shows now is they don’t have theme songs like they did on the 70a and 80s.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Exactly, I miss that.
@MichaelWH
27 күн бұрын
i miss it too
i thought i was the biggest loser of the 70,s but after watching this i feel pretty good about myself.
James Komack was sure given a lot of chances.
@laurabeane8862
Ай бұрын
That's true. For every "Welcome Back Kotter", and "Chico and the Man" there were a couple in there that were dumbfounding and deserved to hit the skids.
@tonycanabal1659
Ай бұрын
James was responsible for the decline of both Kotter and Chico ,he drove a wedge between Gabe and Marcia ,so Gabe leaves to be in the movie "Fastbreak",and should have ended Chico right after Freddie's death instead of getting a Kid Chico.
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
One of Komack's series didn't even make it to prime-time: David Brenner's "SNIP", in 1976. Apparently, NBC objected to the "gay hairdressser" character played by Walter Wanderman, and yanked the series before its scheduled premiere {it was still listed as one of the new shows in TV GUIDE's "Fall Preview" issue that September}. Five episodes had been completed before NBC whisked it into obscurity......but then, given the cancellation of virtually all of their new series that season, it was probably just as well it never aired.
I remember " baby I'm back" I watched the first show and gave up on it.
@luisreyes1963
Ай бұрын
Demond Wilson would have no luck either with the 80's ABC revival of The Odd Couple.
@fromthesidelines
Ай бұрын
Garry Marshall really didn't want ro revive "THE ODD COUPLE", either.
@vgovger4373
Ай бұрын
@@luisreyes1963 Yes I saw that to, really tried to enjoy it, but the writing and story didnt grab me.
@MichaelWH
27 күн бұрын
@@luisreyes1963 it was awful
I started working 3rd shift in 1977 and did so until October 1978, so all of these shows I never saw.
@steelers6titles
Ай бұрын
You didn't spring for a Betamax?
@billinct860
Ай бұрын
@@steelers6titles Such things were almost unaffordable until mid 80s when I bought my first VHS VCR for about $400.00.
@steelers6titles
Ай бұрын
@@billinct860 I was sort of kidding. Betamaxes were indeed expensive; I think VHS was cheaper. My parents didn't have a VCR until they got a VHS one in the late 1980s.
Of all the short live TV shows featured in this video, I do remember watching 31:44 Quark. The sci-fi comedy started off strong with a really good quasi-parody of Star Wars for its pilot episode. Unfortunately, the series never lived-up to its early expectations of wacky sci-fi comedy/parody. Like "Spaceballs" for example. While the series was never bad, a lot of the humor just fell flat in the following episodes, and it just wasn't consistently funny enough to keep you tuned-in every week.
I've read some stories on how the ratings worked before the internet era. One thing that came up was if a show was successful but lost audience, it might get moved to another night or cancelled. If the show at 8 pm gets 10 million viewers but your show at 8:30 gets 7 million viewers, that might seem good because 7 million might mean you're number one at 8:30. But in reality it means one third of the network's audience is leaving when your show starts. That might cause the network to cancel your show.
I was 14 during this TV season. I can remember checking out the various series starring former cast members of "The Mary Tyler Moore Show," so I'm sure I watched at least one episode each of "The Betty White Show" and "The Ted Knight Show." I'm pretty sure I caught an episode or two of "Rosetti And Ryan" as well. The one show in this list that we watched regularly was "James At 15." I can even remember the episode in which he had his birthday and the "15" was crossed out and replaced with "16." I had forgotten that it only lasted for one season. That Freshen Up gum commercial looks really familiar, too.
@visaman
Ай бұрын
That commercial was the best thing in this video!😅
The Oregon Trail...died of dysentry.
Always looking forward to your new post. Really enjoy your page. Do you thinking you may be doing this for the 1960s?
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you! Yes, once I finish the 1979-80 season, I'm going be working my way up ('80s) and back ('60s) simultaneously. I have a bunch of future content that (primarily) will be based around the late '60s through to the early '80s (my favorite period), and I'm using this video series to set a baseline for all of that.
@wgd14u
Ай бұрын
@@robertsretrorewind5853 cool. Thanks!!
I always think of the mom on My So Called Life as the actress from On Our Own!
@keithidota
Ай бұрын
I always think of the tall woman from On Our Own as the young Dorothy on The Golden Girls.
We all know what happened with Patrick Duffy- from “Man From Atlantis” to “Dallas”! The Master Charge commercial (before it became Master Card) featured Patti Deutsch- who was featured on many game shows in the ‘70’s and would later do voice work on “The Wild Thornberry’s” Richard Benjamin was already very well known in the late ‘60’s doing work with his wife, Paula Prentiss. Mel Tillis was a big-time Country singer- but he also had a severe stuttering issue when he talked, which would disappear when he sang! This lead to a popularity in research on speech. “Logan’s Run” was an early vehicle for Gregory Harrison, who would go on to do “Trapper John, M.D.” opposite Pernell Roberts. Beverly Archer did loads of commercials, usually typecast as a teacher or librarian. She also played Iola on “Mama’s Family” opposite Vicki Lawrence, Ken Berry and Dorothy Lyman. David Groh was best known as Joe on “Rhoda” opposite Valerie Harper, Julie “Marge Simpson” Kavner, Nancy Walker, Harold Gould, and Lorenzo “Garfield” Music.
@robertsretrorewind5853
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your post Jeanne. Lots of great info here! It might be out there, but whenever I think of David Groh, I think of him in that episode of "Kate & Allie", where chip handcuffs his (bully) daughter to his desk.
Holy crap. There were a LOT of bombs this season!
@Quartzquiz333
Ай бұрын
This season is kid's play compared to NEXT season!
@fredgarv79
Ай бұрын
It all started to go bad in say 75 and just got worse from there. A lot of really bad shows here. I remember being excited at a sci fi show, Quark, and it was just so bad, the only reason I watched it was for the two girls, but it was just so bad, even if one or two of them were not bad, the went up against the six million dollar man or little house on the prairie thus doomed. Six million dollar man was good the first few seasons then they went to UFOs and bigfoot. Prairie I never ever watched.
the another day theme song sounds like a paul williams composition with him on vocals,well done
Ted Knight, Betty White, Georgia Engel and Mary Tyler Moore all had flop series post-MTM. Gavin MacCleod had much better luck with his post-MTM series The Love Boat. Meanwhile, Valerie Harper, Cloris Leachman and Ed Asher already had successful spin-offs.
Wow James Kerwin...R.I.P....what ever happened to Kim Richards?....she use to everywhere
@Quartzquiz333
Ай бұрын
Wasn't she on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills a few years ago?
All those shows, and I think I only watched the first episode of 'the Man from Atlantis'