The guy that tested all those cars back then had a damn good job...a damn fun job!

@rollingstopp

8 жыл бұрын

+Bob Silver/// he mighta been scared though LOL

@scdevon

8 жыл бұрын

This series ran during the magical muscle car years 1968-1974. They cut the series at just the right time when the abysmal dark ages started in 1974.

@rollingstopp

8 жыл бұрын

TORQUE:::::::::::::

@PotatoGunsRule

8 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking the same thing! "He had a great job."

@chargermaster3676

7 жыл бұрын

PotatoGunsRule just saw a 71 442 black convertible reminded of this video

"were gonna miss what progress takes from us." indeed we do

That guy can drive!

@Cuttyboy71

8 жыл бұрын

right

@daniellobo1680

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao😂 hell yeah

"were gonna miss what progress takes from us." Never were truer words spoke. And for 2020 we are surely entering Malaise era II in so many ways with cool fun cars, stick sifts and good styling a long distant memory!

A truly fantastic car in every way. I would still drive one today. That test driver man-handled that car like it was his last day on Earth! GREAT JOB.

Our idea of a good handling car is much different today, but there isn't anything much cooler looking than a big sled drifting around into a turn and boiling rubber off the rear tires coming off the apex. 'Murica!

@twoeightythreez

7 жыл бұрын

Aaron Fink Yeah, nowadays a good handling car has numb electric steering and intrusive active stability control that makes driving feel more disconnected than ever. just because modern cars can go faster doesnt mean they are more fun to drive, they are not. besides every drift enhusiast basicaly makes thier car into an old musclecar lol

@johnrobinson357

6 жыл бұрын

Seeing this slide around the track reminds me....big cars can handle - somewhat. In the late 90's i bought a chevy caprice 9C1. Pulled the tired engine and swapped a vortech 350 with under 70k on it in the car. Rebuilt the rear end, lowering springs front and rear, koni shocks front and rear, new poly bushings all around that i could change out. Tubular lower a arms & ball joints. Rebuilt 700R4 and a comp cams 262h cam. springs and rockers and lifters - rollers. Did a few more things but for around $1,600 it was fast and handled well for a lead sled 4,400 lbs. With 3:42 gears if i could not get ya off the line wait for 3rd gear and it's over. Unless it's hot or a big block. Not too bad for a cruise ship on wheels.

0-70 mph in 7.3 seconds, with a driver shifting who knows how. Olds' power - no turbo, no supercharger, all motor.

@Lucille69caddy

7 жыл бұрын

Schön That's with tires smoking halfway down the track!

@Shabass

6 жыл бұрын

You know that a Toyota Camry V6 2017 do that in about the same Time...

@noahgaray7923

6 жыл бұрын

Francis Lévesque shifting stick and having the thrill of a v8 with old steel? No, you get a shitty A to B car.

@Shakerhood69

5 жыл бұрын

And that is on those old shitty tires, some modern rubber would make a big difference.

@paktype

5 жыл бұрын

Francis Lévesque Yes but the 2017 Camry is a very delicate car. A falling twig will dent it. This car was built like a tank.

An Olds 442 4-speed convertible is a super-rare combo. Worth big bucks today.

There's more to it than just 0-70 times and 1/4 mile times. These old carbureted big inch American pushrod V8s made gobs of silky smooth torque at way down low RPMs. Like 500 lb. feet of torque. They had a totally different feel than newer high revving V8s even if the new engines make more horsepower and peak torque.

@techmaven5900

7 жыл бұрын

Very well said!

@scdevon

5 жыл бұрын

1/4 mile times have very little to do with how fun a car is to drive. This car would put you WAY back in the seat at 2000 RPM.

@techmaven5900

5 жыл бұрын

It also handled VERY well considering the tires..That 442 stayed pretty damn flat in those turns.

@bechtoea

4 жыл бұрын

I had a 1970 Pontiac Bonneville with the 360HP and 500ft/lb 455 cubic inch engine. In normal driving the aftermarket tach never saw 2000 RPM unless you were on the freeway. What I remember was the idle being so low that the engine didn't typically pull the car along at idle. In fact, the engine idled at 500RPM with the A/C on. On a hill, if you let off the brake pedal, it would roll backwards. Just loafing really.

@whackamolechamp

3 жыл бұрын

@@bechtoea if you lived in an area with steep hills you could speed up the Idle with the turn of a screw if you wanted to.

one of 32 four speed convertibles ever built

@71plymouth.

8 жыл бұрын

And out of that number. How many of them W-30?

@DMR67442

8 жыл бұрын

+71 Plymouth. Please see new post

@71plymouth.

8 жыл бұрын

DMR67442 Ok.

Out of all the track videos Ive seen Bud do this one was the best one and this is the one he said the least negative statements about. Proud owner of a Viking blue 71 442 and can see why they enjoyed it so much on this fine day in 72. Thing was a monster in this video and Bud was a legend.

Best handling of the musclecars. The 442.

Believe me Bud, progress took from us a long time ago. I long for the days of unpowered "binders", and the manual levers we used to enjoy using to control spark advance and mixture. That's when we had a true freedom - not in the 50s and 60s when half the fun was gone.

My dad had a 70 442 w-30, and a 71 442 (350 cid) convertible back when I was a kid in the late 70s and early 80s. They were both beautiful and fast cars. The 70 was a absolute beast! The hard top was totally burned in a fire, and the convertible had to be sold after my dad fell ill. We still miss those cars today.

I think it is quite respectable for it's day,in handling and overall performance.pretty good for 1971.

@Bridging_the_Political_Divide

4 жыл бұрын

Corners very flat for the time. Maybe not for today, but for back then, very flat cornering for the time.

One of 32 W30 four speed convertibles. 110 total 1971 W30 convertibles were built

@johanbrand8601

2 жыл бұрын

Wow

The '71 restyle of the Cutlass was absolutely gorgeous.

"...and we're going to miss what progress takes from it." So true about many things in life these days.

@dstoyano

3 жыл бұрын

Rabid progressives are now the embodiment of the Democratic Party....they're now forcing us off gasoline artificially by manipulating supply and massive tax increases.

It makes a hell of nice noise.

Had a friend in h/s that had a much used and abused 71 Cutlass 442 W30 coupe. It was rusty, leaked oil everywhere, and most likely unsafe to drive... But.. but.. that 455.. Holy smoke! It always started. Ran smooth as glass! I remember with a broken motor mount and the fan hitting the shroud at full tilt, that thing would eat the rear tires like a famished man goes through entrees! No idea what rear gear it had, but it could do 95 in 2nd! (TH400 auto) Imagine how it would be if new?

Something about this video just makes me think about the end of the United State's glory days. I mean yes, many great strides were taken in the late 60's/ early 70's towards human rights and the environment, but I just can't help but feel that we lost something great about us as a nation in that period; not just beautiful cars like this, but... Maybe pride? It saddens me because Bud talks about what progress takes away from the 442, and maybe that applied to something from us as Americans too.

If Olds were still around, I'm sure that by now the 442 would have a DOHC 455 with direct injection & dry sump oiling with maybe 700 to 800 HP.

@pettyofficerwelch

9 жыл бұрын

I doubt they'd have a 455. 7.5 Liter engines aren't very common today. They would most likely be using an LS engine like every other V8 GM car.

@techmaven5900

9 жыл бұрын

Marc Smith Olds was building Hemi and DOHC 455's back then. The EPA killed them.

@hendo337

9 жыл бұрын

john robert I thought it was Pontiac who had the SOHC and DOHC experimental engines?

@Marc816

9 жыл бұрын

Olds had the W-43 455 with DOHC & 700 HP 45 years ago.Pontiac might have had a similar engine, but I don't know for sure.

@twoeightythreez

7 жыл бұрын

Marc Smith If it werent for the stupid GM racing ban the olds. 455 would have been DOHC by 1971. in that universe though, the modern 442 would likely be a much smaller engine the gas crisis still would have happened

That dude was drifting before drifting was famous!

@chargermaster3676

7 жыл бұрын

David Reed yeah but wasnt drifting a import car thing? most just draged raced American cars not that American cars couldn't do that which they can but have tougher times taking corners than imports

@Marc-zi4vg

5 жыл бұрын

@@chargermaster3676 its just all of that 30 years worth of innovations at the time, i mean look at today, american sport cars can go toe to toe with their european and their japanese counterparts just fine and to hammer in that point vaughn jr deafeted the japanese at their own game (drifting) using a mustang to win it

@emeyer6963

5 жыл бұрын

That was Bud's son and he could definately wheel that vehicle

@Porsche996driver

3 жыл бұрын

Back in the day they called it a “4 wheel drift” - took the marketing guys to come up with just “drifting.”

Ultra-rare car to just happen to be selected for this road test! These '71 W-30 convertibles bring huge money today. I had a '71 Cutlass 'S' in that same pea-green color. It was sort of a junior-442 with factory dual exhaust, 4bbl 350 and the F41 suspension with rear sway bar. Handled really well. Was a strong and reliable runner. Wish I had kept that one!

Drifting a 442 convertible? That's nuts! Driver had talent. Getting my 442 restored. Can't wait.

i love the test driver's confidence

This Oldsmobile 442 is Awesome 😎 I Love ❤️ it!! 0-70 in 7.3 seconds is Amazing!

@Bridging_the_Political_Divide

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. Channel that power to modern day independent rear suspension and modern performance tires of today and that 7.3 probably becomes 6.3 on 0-70, which is probably 5.3-5.4 on 0-60. Definitely quick stuff.

@therealtech833

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bridging_the_Political_Divide exactly, that's on bias-ply tires.

love the soundtrack, makes u wanna make a 4000 pound hippo go sideways. awesome ride and vid.

Had a 69 Olds Ninety-Eight with the 455. Had a lot of torque!

0-70 in 7 secs? Damn that thing was quick

@BigEightiesNewWave

3 жыл бұрын

1971 power was down too....compression had been dropped a lot.

Awesome car. I had a '72 a long time ago, but it was only the 350. Still hauled, though. Funny how they don't mention in this clip that the 442's tail doesn't like to stay put at all! In that 200 ft. braking test, damn thing nearly fishtailed off the road.

Still dream of having an early 70s cutlass convertible!

The background music makes it even more enjoyable 😎

I find it so funny that back then adding a rear sway bar was so revolutionary and high tech and they marveled on how it made the 442 handle better than all other A body GM's..

The word Salad is just Beautiful in this one.

My 68 Toro. was also a Torque-monster! Love those old Olds.

Looked fantastic going through the slalom. I'm impressed, kinda surprised.

Bud was the man!! And yes, the test driver did some mighty fine man handling of that test track.

"We're gunna miss what progress takes from it !" well said

Loved the J-turn!

Had a 71 Cutlass Supreme 350 rocket ... That was a great car!

10 punks gave this a thumbs down.

They were great cars in their day. The 442 felt much more “buttoned down” than other muscle cars of the day. Like all GM’s that year they took a performance hit because of the switch to low compression. My 70 W30 (way back when) had 370 horse with 10.5 compression. The 71 version was rated at 350 with 8.5. This 20 horse drop understated the drop since the 370 in 1970 was underrated for insurance reasons (the 455 In the 1970 Tornado was rated 400 horse with a milder cam). Actual horsepower loss from a 19% reduction in compression is typically around 15%. Anyway those 442’s were great cars and the 70-72 had particularly handsome masculine lines to them and the standard 455 engine in 70-71 gave them lots of street credibility!

I sure do miss my '70 convertible. All black w/blk interior. Bad ass ride for 15 years. Sigh...maybe some day again..

Hell of a driver

Used to love this show back in the day- I was 16 then

Have a 67 cutlass supreme. Not as powerful and "manly" but an awesome car to cruse around in :)

@noahgaray7923

8 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but you have an olds, thats what matters! Looking at a 71 442 clone right now

@rodmunch69

7 жыл бұрын

I had a 72 Cutlass with a 350 rocket while in high school, my step dad paid $200 for the thing (this would be 1992) from some guy who had it sitting in his backyard, with the windows down, for 7 years. Anywho after feeding it some gas it started right up. We paid $25 for 4 tires, installed - then I spent about 3 days cleaning out the inside of leafs, it was disgusting. The first night I took the car out all the belts broke, so that was like another $20 - and that was it, the car was up and fully running for the year or so I had it. The thing was sort of a death trap however, whenever you turned left it would turn off, the ignition stopped worked so I ended up just having to put the key in, then taking two big wires under the steering wheel and tapping them together, sparks and all to start it, the carb was acting up so me and friend took it a part to rebuild it, which was unsuccessful - so I just stuck a piece of cardboard in the carb so it was wide open all the time. It had so much rust everywhere when driving on a dirt road the inside of the car would fill with dust, and there was a rust whole so big in the trunk you could pass a basketball through it - so that was like another $10 to fix, which was getting some bondo. Of course nothing like the air conditioning worked, or the radio, so I had to install a new radio I think I got for free from a junk yard and then I had a 6x9 directly wired to it that sat on its magnet stuck to the floor. Oh and then one day it wouldn't start, so I kept trying to get it to turn over, again and again, and BOOOOM!!!!!!!!! A giant fireball shot out from under the car and then, wow, the car sounded incredible, like I had the best muffler ever on it. Looking under the car the muffler had blown open and banana peeled out - and it was a huge performance and audio bonus, although it was fairly loud, it was the good rumble loud, not the high pitched or glasspack garbage, just all bass. So with all that said it was a pretty awesome car. With the lack of any muffler to really get in the way of performance and a wide open carb all the time, the car had fantastic acceleration and me and my friend who had a 1972 Chevelle with a 350, but with a 4-barrel compared to my 2-barrel, we'd race all the time on backroads like it was a Dukes of Hazzard episode and my spec'd up Cutlass was just a hair quicker than his Chevelle, which was actually in fairly good shape. We'd race side by side on dirt roads doing 120 or so and even ran from the cops a few times. I had to sell my Cutlass when I went to college since I needed a car that wouldn't cutoff at every lefthand turn in the city and a car you could drive in the rain without wrecking it and since it was about a 60-mile roundtrip drive everyday I needed something that got better than 6mpg (that's what I actually got). So I went from the highlife of a great American V8 to a Hyundai Excel with like 76hp. What a disaster that was.

@frostimator6870

4 жыл бұрын

@@rodmunch69 Loved this read, thanks for the good story :)

@75aces97

3 жыл бұрын

I liked the look of the 67 Cutlass better. Sure it didn't offer as much power as the next few model years, but the 1966-67 A body Olds was the style of intermediate muscle car I liked best.

Awesome vid! Thanks for sharing! Love the turns during the cone run. Lol. Boy are we babied with steering nowadays!

Love the test track! It has more than everything! 4spd olds never seen one in person but looks like so much fun! 😍

I'm addicted... makes seeing them crawl around car shows fun!!.. Knowing you could, if you wanted to, Ring this Machine the hell out.. thanks for the Post

I would take one of those cars over any of the new muscle cars of today. The visceral/mechanical feeling of driving the older ones was a special experience.

I Loved this car in the movie King Pin!!!! It was Awesomeness!!!!!!!

am all energyed up ready.fantastic video.so bad oldsmobile is gone

Something that stands out in all of these old road test vids is that the rest driver is a true ace...this is clear.

Bud could see the future... "We're going to miss what progress takes from it..." amen.

What people don't realize is that modern cars handle a bit too well sometimes. It gives people a false sense of security. Cars like this Olds taught people how to handle a car, and let you know when you were in over your head.

Man that's my favorite muscle car! 🥰👍what a beauty!

This guy is totally convincing me to buy a 442. Too bad I wasn't even a thought in a napkin in the 70's

@PotatoGunsRule

8 жыл бұрын

I'll tell you what, here's a deal for you. I win the lotto or otherwise have enough spare cash to find and buy myself two 1971 442 W 30's and I'll buy the two and give one to you.. You have that much cash and you do the same for me. Those that know me, know I keep my word, even to complete strangers. What do you say?

@SenderBudYerGood

8 жыл бұрын

Dude you got a fucking deal! =]

@PotatoGunsRule

8 жыл бұрын

Kinda hard to lose on that one, right? :)

@Fred_NaughT

6 жыл бұрын

PotatoGunsRule I accept your challenge sir and would do the same for you. Oldsmobile Lovers Drive Smoothly

a great performer by 1971 standards and even on par with 1970 and earlier standards.

@twoeightythreez

7 жыл бұрын

Doobie1975 its still a decent performer by today's standards...just not fast anymore, a rocket then though. Its crazy to think that this w30 would get its doors handed to it by most modern 4cyl sedans nowadays. I still would rather have this.

@Lucille69caddy

7 жыл бұрын

twoeightythreez Uh, no it wouldn't Turbo'd AWD STi and Evo off the line maybe, but after that it's all over. Not most 4 cylinder sedans. That's preposterous.

@scdevon

5 жыл бұрын

1971 was still a decent year and the last good year before the dark ages began in 1972. This car is the Holy Grail of Olds muscle cars. Worth a fortune today.

The 71 olds is beautiful

Damn! that's soooo cool. thanks for posting this clip. Love it

Rules and regulation took the raw acceleration muscle cars used to have ....... And that old school manual look way more fun than today's cars although mustangs and Camaros definitely made a come back

AHHHHHYEAH! 💪MuscleCars RULE!

I don't think they learned the term "threshold braking" until much after this was shot.

@number3665

5 жыл бұрын

NO ONE THRESHOLD BRAKES IN A PANIC. If they did there wouldn't be a such thing as ABS, when 90% of people panic they just slam on the brakes and drag the tires. They did it then and they do it now, that's why they test how long it will take the car to stop with the wheels locked up.

Watching that big Olds being thrown in to corners and power sliding is just so bad ass. Despite all the improved handling that cars have nowadays this car just puts new cars to shame just based on style and power.

Damn that was awesome!!! I wish i was the driver!!

"We're gonna miss what progress takes from it." You bet your ass we do...

Pretty quick to 70 mph, considering the bulk involved. Sweet car.

I believe the biggest problems in order were few on all the old muscle cars.. 1. TIRES... they sucked.. 2. Brakes,, they were bad. 3. Suspension which I believe by then (71) could be changed. 4. And it's a sort of,, the carburetor. You modernize those 4 things (especially the first 3) and you've got a fantastic car.

These kids of today haven't a clue about a LOT of things! Yesterday's Muscle Cars are one of them!!!

CLASSIC!!!

Had a 87 CS 307 t-tops and 76 88 royale 350 R The 76 was a beast.

If it hadn't been for the drop in compression for '71, this would have easily have been one of the best musclecars of all time.

@71plymouth.

8 жыл бұрын

I agree on some terms. I've got a 70 Charger 383 and a 71 Satellite Sebring 383, my Charger would make 335 stock HP while my 71 would only make 300 stock HP. But nevertheless: both are still champions. It was 72 but most definitely 73-74 (oil crisis) that sadly: killed the muscle car.

@twoeightythreez

7 жыл бұрын

Tim Holmes It still did 0-70 in 7 seconds not bad for 1971 especially considering those eeny beeny tires

This car would be worth a FORTUNE today.

@johanbrand8601

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

Check out 4:34. Dude had this thing sideways. Love this car

0-70 in 7.3 not bad at all on those tires

@wrotenwasp

7 жыл бұрын

Id like to see this fucker run 0-60 with modern radials or better yet, drag radials. Probably could do under 5 seconds. And that's with an 8.5 compression ratio.

@twoeightythreez

7 жыл бұрын

wrotenwasp The 8.5 compression ratio actually made it better didnt lose too much power and you can run it on regular

@Hot80s

7 жыл бұрын

imagine junk 87 & it runs like a charm!

@1983jblack

5 жыл бұрын

7.3 for a 70 mph run is still fast.

@techmaven5900

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hot80s In 1971, regular gas was 95 octane.

Wow, 0-70 in 7.3 seconds. That’s impressive even today.

@johanbrand8601

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed! And that's even on old style tyres! With modern tyres it will grip even more!

My blood pressure/heart rate goes up every time I watch these films. The fact that they are low budget productions is what makes them appealing. The jerky camera shots, the angles, and the erratic splicing make all of the slick, modern auto related programs lame by comparison.

That is an excellent chassis!

The reverse spin out was later referred to as a Rockford. James Garner actually raced.

@emeyer6963

7 жыл бұрын

Jim learned it from Bob Bondurant.He went to his racing school before he made the movie Grand Prix

@cmoore185

7 жыл бұрын

Actually, you are wrong. The movie came out in 1966 and he didn't start his school until he retired in 1968.

@cmoore185

7 жыл бұрын

Jim also did the movie Winning also. I believe it was in 67.

@cmoore185

7 жыл бұрын

Winning came out 5/22/69

1970 442 automatic and 4 speed stick was tested by Hot Rod Magazine. Same 455 cu in. The automatic won.

Oh how we long for the days, but, there are some who have enjoyed this recently....

Imagine if Oldsmobile was revived, and produced a modern 455 with direct injection and all the amenities of todays engines....if we can get 300 hp about of a 3.6 V6, I don't think 800 hp is that out of reach. And today's transmissions should be able to deliver 20 mpg highway. But that's only a dream....

I put a 455 in a 76 triumph tr7 with a power glide and dual exhaust, under the stock hood, also a 3.08 axle from a mustang, what a blast.

Looks good as hell, driven around them curves.

@oldscutlass86 sadly, it most likely became a washing machine, then later a bunch of soup cans. these press fleet cars usualy didn't have long lives. once the press was done with them, they were crushed.

Back then, Olds had the handling, Pontiac the horsepower, and Buick the brakes

I love watching this.

cannot be beat, thats for sure

"minimum bodyroll" - that's a good one... ;-)

@therealtech833

2 жыл бұрын

The comment was in the context of cars of its day. When you consider it's a 3,600+ lb weight, it actually did quite well at the speeds & maneuvering through the solemn test.

i miss it already and i was even born yet for another 17 years haha id'a bought it and the challenger both that year

GM made some bad ass cars back in the day.

When I was a kid my neighbor had a 442 . I always told him don’t sell the car because when I turn 18 I’m gonna buy it. What did he do he sold it and I wound up buying a 71 Dodge Charger in 1979 with a 440 for $1250.00 . 59 Thousand original miles and it was owned by a family.

Very nice, I'm only 25 and I can admire the beauty of this vehicle. I do not like the small sports coupe ricers of today and I hope that one day, one day I may get my hands on one of these to restore. The closets I have ever been was my dads 1971 Pontiac Bonneville but he had to sell it, it had the 350 small block. Maybe a couple more of these afghan deployments and I may achieve this dream.

it handles good for a big car!

DAMN, BEAUTIFUL..

Dang That looks fun!!!!

GOD bless "BUD LINDEMANN" ! You were the BEST Bud .

Impressed

Amazing!