1970s Batman was Influenced by James Bond (He also Killed a Bear) - Comic Tropes (Episode 53)

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The Batman from the 60s is radically different from the one from the 90s. The Batman of today is drastically different from the one in 50s comics. I believe each decade or so Batman is reinvented by his creators and influenced by the culture of their era. I argue in this video that the 70s Batman was influenced by the James Bond movies.
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  • @spinchsprimkle6541
    @spinchsprimkle65415 жыл бұрын

    That was around the time Ra's Al Ghul turned up, and he was basically a Bond villain.

  • @waterking74

    @waterking74

    3 жыл бұрын

    Makes too much sense

  • @MutantsInDisguise
    @MutantsInDisguise4 жыл бұрын

    The bronze age Batman is my favorite comic book interpretation of the character, and I'm looking forward to reading this version the best I can. He returned to being the dark knight detective without being edgy. A lot of people think Frank Miller saved Batman, but it's not wholly true. Thank you, Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams, for making Batman who he is today.

  • @ryanw4039

    @ryanw4039

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me to 1970s 1980s 1990s batman bronze age

  • @gnarrcan108

    @gnarrcan108

    3 жыл бұрын

    Denny and Neal Adams did more for the mythos and world than anyone. I’ve always thought DKR was kind of overrated even though it’s really good I like year one better. But Frank Miller didn’t define Batman he said his Batman was just 70s Batman as an old man. The character that defines Frank Miller the most is probably daredevil literally everything about DDs world is from miller’s run.

  • @waterking74

    @waterking74

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanw4039 the 90s was an amazing to be a Batman fan both comics and tv ... too bad this was the time of the comics bubble crash

  • @JunkyardFox
    @JunkyardFox5 жыл бұрын

    That bear was my friend. yeah, he had a lot of personal demons. After his wife left him, he started hitting the sheriffs ‘shine a little too often, getting careless, one night burning himself severely. But no one deserves that kind of departure.

  • @BobGeis

    @BobGeis

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry for your loss.

  • @naysmith5272

    @naysmith5272

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BobGeis lol

  • @TheNightBadger
    @TheNightBadger7 жыл бұрын

    My god... the Silver and Bronze age imagery of DC comics gives me the warm fuzzies!

  • @RobotsPajamas

    @RobotsPajamas

    7 жыл бұрын

    I agree.

  • @themoofs6925

    @themoofs6925

    4 жыл бұрын

    All those old comics give me that feeling. Reading marvel silver age comics makes me feel like I’m transported back to that New York City. I really felt like I was diving back into that world with comics of that era.

  • @Targisvear
    @Targisvear6 жыл бұрын

    IN MEMORIAM BEAR. R.I.P.

  • @VuotoPneumaNN

    @VuotoPneumaNN

    4 жыл бұрын

    This is not over! Bears!

  • @dominicrigsby8547
    @dominicrigsby85474 жыл бұрын

    Two years later and this video is still a classic. I love this show.

  • @RobotsPajamas
    @RobotsPajamas7 жыл бұрын

    I haven't read enough 70s Batman, but that's about my favorite era for Batman's style.

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    It's pretty fantastic. Neal Adams was at his height, in my opinion. Loved the stuff he and Denny O'Neill did with R'as al Ghul and Joker. Joker's Five Way Revenge is a perfect Joker story and reinvented him into the scary killer instead of a goofy jokester that he'd been for the last decade plus.

  • @reecerife7839
    @reecerife78395 жыл бұрын

    My favorite Batman has to be this one. He's not quite campy and he's not a quassy brooding emo. Most of the art from this era was some of the best as well. Awesome video! Also the way the comics portray folks/hillbillies from the Appalachians is quite offending. Most of us are refined cultured people and there maybe one or two sister lover, but that's beside the point.

  • @macsnafu
    @macsnafu6 жыл бұрын

    I grew up with and loved the Batman of the 70s. It seemed like a good balance between the light-hearted Batman as Boy Scout and the dark, grim Batman of later years. I'm not so sure about his similarity to James Bond, but I can kind of see it. And yes, I liked it when he got out of Gotham. It seems to me that any good superhero should also be a good adventurer, encountering and dealing with unusual locations outside of their normal 'stomping grounds'.

  • @TJRtheOriginal
    @TJRtheOriginal6 жыл бұрын

    Gotta admit, your way more daring on the physical stuff than I am. I grew up with Batman in the 70's and loved this analysis.

  • @MP-kw5ud
    @MP-kw5ud5 жыл бұрын

    "Batman rode a bear off a cliff. And that bear was on fire too!" Gold.

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse4 жыл бұрын

    Here's a trope: Killer hillbillies were everywhere during this time in comics.

  • @HonorJackson247
    @HonorJackson2474 жыл бұрын

    As gritty as the Nolan Batman's are supposed to be I think they really nailed the James Bond feel. Would love to see Nolan do an actual James Bond movie.

  • @scottanderson8167
    @scottanderson81675 жыл бұрын

    This feels like it could be a Scooby-Doo mystery

  • @marcacosta7594
    @marcacosta75942 жыл бұрын

    I'm also a huge J.Aparo/N. Adams fan, grew up with Roger Moore as my James Bond, I never noticed the similarities until your astounding video. You are so right!

  • @HIMMBelljuvo
    @HIMMBelljuvo7 жыл бұрын

    A Batman-James Bond crossover would be golden!

  • @DrewLSsix

    @DrewLSsix

    5 жыл бұрын

    HIMMBelljuvo Which Batman and which Bond? Connery and West? I vote for the book Bond (big ugly dumb brute that was hired because he’s willing to do dirty things). And the gun wielding OG Batman of the 30s.

  • @euansmith3699

    @euansmith3699

    4 жыл бұрын

    "The name's Bond... James B..." "I'm... BATMAN!"

  • @bradenhogan2

    @bradenhogan2

    4 жыл бұрын

    JAK STUDIOS I was thinking... Golden EYE!

  • @josegregoriobencomogomez4958

    @josegregoriobencomogomez4958

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@DrewLSsix Well, West's Batman already crossed over with the Avengers Tv series and the Man from UNCLE.

  • @andrewtate4897
    @andrewtate48975 жыл бұрын

    the mud Issue, in one of Conan Doyle's stories Sherlock Holmes stories Holmes Identifes exactly where a man has been from the Mud on his boots the colour and consistency and grit content of the Mud Sherlock Holmes deduced that this person had been walking in a particular part of London. Batman and James Bond are both descendants of Holmes Literary speaking

  • @LordZero666

    @LordZero666

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was about to comment the same thing. You beat me for 10 months.

  • @tomsawyer2287

    @tomsawyer2287

    Жыл бұрын

    Y más atrás del "super hombre" de nietchhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @dontchewglass
    @dontchewglass5 жыл бұрын

    "He beat those guys off" LMAO

  • @adamandava6emeryandemery18
    @adamandava6emeryandemery185 жыл бұрын

    I’ll never understand how in one book Batman can go toe to toe with some impressive meta humans. Then, in this one for example. He gets jumped by 6 inbred woodchucks. Guess it’s all part of a strategy?

  • @broomsfaulty3289
    @broomsfaulty32896 жыл бұрын

    Bruce Wayne also had the svelt physique and hairy chest of a young Sean Connery too! lol

  • @HCC788
    @HCC7887 жыл бұрын

    Batman *smells* something?? Maybe it's the burning flesh and hair from the bear carcass at the bottom of the cliff!

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    No no. It's definitely sourmash whiskey deep in a cave. Not the burning bear he just killed.

  • @Principles_of_Psychology
    @Principles_of_Psychology6 жыл бұрын

    My first comic book was a Batman comic in the 70s, which I bought from a guilder (I’m Dutch) I had found in a warehouse. Loved comics ever since. I had never made the explicit connection between Batman and James Bond, but it makes a lot of sense. Great work, Chris!

  • @MarkLipka
    @MarkLipka4 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Sal Amendola's artwork is well worth seeking out! Great stuff! 😍😃

  • @robsyers8647
    @robsyers86474 жыл бұрын

    It would have been nice if "kills a bear" would have become a common Batman trope.

  • @johngoldie3745
    @johngoldie37456 жыл бұрын

    How about some Brave and the Bold and Jim Aparo tropes? I absolutely loved that book.

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Goldie I’m a fan of Aparo so I will cover him at some point.

  • @macsnafu

    @macsnafu

    6 жыл бұрын

    I think you mean Bob Haney tropes. Haney came up with some of the most ridiculous situations in order to pair up Batman with other DC heroes. Fortunately, we had Aparo artwork to get us through the worst parts of the stories.

  • @waaaghboss64
    @waaaghboss644 жыл бұрын

    I love how you went the extra mile with riding the bull. Your videos are amazing!

  • @TeatroGrotesco
    @TeatroGrotesco Жыл бұрын

    I really liked the story telling visually and by text the explanation of not breaking a chain but breaking out of old wood...Nice detail and really nicely done in the art work.

  • @vicmartinoofficial331
    @vicmartinoofficial331 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Chris I just came across your videos here on You Tube!! And I'm really enjoying your videos about our favorite crime fighter "The Batman" and James Bond another one of my favorite hero's "James Bond" and I agree with you regarding the comparisons between Bond and Batman.

  • @joejohnson3891
    @joejohnson38915 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting how many comparisons between this and the original 30s Batman Detective Comics. This story reminds me of Detective Comics #31

  • @marklawrence2772
    @marklawrence27727 жыл бұрын

    Great Stuff as usual - i'm so surprised you don't have more subs, i grew up reading 70's batman as well.some great covers shown. always well put together content.

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    I have so little free time that I have not been able to run any digital campaigns or organize a promotion with another channel. So all my views are organic based on how I title and tag the stuff. I'm grateful for the viewers I have. They all seem to sincerely appreciate comic books as a medium.

  • @RobotsPajamas

    @RobotsPajamas

    7 жыл бұрын

    I'll get back onto pushing you onto everyone whether they like it or not.

  • @noahvance6160
    @noahvance61603 жыл бұрын

    Batman strangles a bear, sets it on fire, then rides the flaming bear off a cliff. That may be the coolest thing I’ve ever heard.

  • @jonhall3151
    @jonhall31515 жыл бұрын

    Loving the content, Chris! Your vids are my new go-to for quick break time get aways at work. I started collecting comics about the time you did, but I've been off and on about it over the years. Definitely still a fan though, and a new subscriber to your channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @classictvreviewer8809
    @classictvreviewer88096 жыл бұрын

    great review pal I love batman and you did a great job with this review

  • @joechristieartstudio7751
    @joechristieartstudio77512 жыл бұрын

    I admire this man's lack of shame. My condolences to the mechanical bull.

  • @AnthonyStJames
    @AnthonyStJames Жыл бұрын

    Batman stories in comics often were a sign of the times. One that comes to mind immediately is a 1970 issue that was inspired by The Beatles and the 'Paul is dead' rumors of that era.

  • @scottfree2248
    @scottfree22485 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant analysis! Agree! I think that the First series of early seventies Ra's Al Ghul stories by Denny O'Neal and Neal Adams are perfect examples of Batman as Bond! Global adventures in exotic locales! Ra's Al Ghul's daughter Talia is also an exotic beauty that Ian Flemming could have easily created as a Bond girl for his books!

  • @Dragonwing007
    @Dragonwing0074 жыл бұрын

    Chris, Batman identified the mud on the Sheriff's boots and in the cave as the same unique mud, which because of the heat of the still would have stuck to the sheriff boots. If you look at the panels, the scene was pretty much only snow. And, I don't know where you live, but when I come in from outside where it's been very snowy, it doesn't magically turn into mud when it melts. Snow is snow but mud is mud. In the mud inside the cave should be generally different than it would be in an open area like around buildings in town. Nobody else had mud on their shoes aside from the Sheriff.

  • @VorpalDerringer
    @VorpalDerringer7 жыл бұрын

    Love the memorial for the bear.

  • @davidpyott3710

    @davidpyott3710

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cheers

  • @SJKPJR007
    @SJKPJR0074 жыл бұрын

    Jim Aparo's Batman in The Brave And The Bold was my staple as a youngster - classic!

  • @ShinyRedNothing
    @ShinyRedNothing2 жыл бұрын

    Great episode, Chris. Lots of fun. Batman vs Bear is a ridiculous and amazing moment. Your theory seems legit to me; Batman and Bond also drive the coolest cars!

  • @andrewtate4897
    @andrewtate48975 жыл бұрын

    My favourite Era for Batman Neal Adams and Denny O Neil

  • @slasher0630
    @slasher06305 жыл бұрын

    Hey Chris, good video. I'm a big fan of 30s/40s, 70s, 80s and 90s Batman. Can you do a vid on Len Wein's Batman? I loved his stuff

  • @psychepus-1715
    @psychepus-17156 жыл бұрын

    great stuff man keep it up!

  • @rayl6901
    @rayl69012 жыл бұрын

    Interesting analysis, thank you. It makes perfect sense that he would be influenced by James Bond in that era. Actually, late '70s to '80s pre-Crisis Batman where there's a fair amount of continuity happening is my favorite era. There were certainly great stories before and after that, but I always had a little chuckle like it was a wink to the audience whenever commissioner Gordon or the narrator referred to Batman as the "world's greatest" (insert whatever here).

  • @bobbyhulll8737
    @bobbyhulll87373 жыл бұрын

    you can never use the term " Hill Billies" enough ...I chuckle every time I think it

  • @TeatroGrotesco
    @TeatroGrotesco Жыл бұрын

    5:30 uh, Chris maybe you didn't notice but Bruce Wayne wasn't really complaining to the manager, he was slipping away to become Batman. I think he was a lot subtler than we give credit. I mean he slipped by you Chris.

  • @naysmith5272
    @naysmith52722 жыл бұрын

    This is like a cool version of Jackanory when you go through a comic story with us.

  • @slothman1016
    @slothman10164 жыл бұрын

    Thanks dude, awesome episode

  • @XAVIERCUERVO
    @XAVIERCUERVO5 жыл бұрын

    my name is man....... Bat -man

  • @steakcrust558
    @steakcrust5585 жыл бұрын

    re watching the videos I cant really remember is awesome! i know ive seen it before because i already had a like on the video

  • @DCMarvelMultiverse
    @DCMarvelMultiverse4 жыл бұрын

    The flaming bear moment was right out of a Chuck Norris joke.

  • @tylerscott6640
    @tylerscott66402 ай бұрын

    Ra's and Talia al Ghul are very similar to Marc-Ange Draco and Teresa Draco di Vincenzo from On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Denny O'Neil said he didn't consciously intend this but admitted he may have done this subconsciously because he was a fan of the Bond movies and books. OHMSS was also the most recent Bond movie at the time of Batman #232, the 1st appearance of Ra's and 2nd appearance of Talia.

  • @bujilou
    @bujilou5 жыл бұрын

    "He beat those guys off"gave me a good laugh&the bull ride was awesome 😂

  • @crabdragon243
    @crabdragon2435 жыл бұрын

    Once he gets to the Appalachians it feels more like a Hellboy story than a Bond one

  • @MrAce-lm8es
    @MrAce-lm8es2 жыл бұрын

    January 1970 - December 1986 Batman: The Bronze Age, Pre-Crisis and Post-Crisis right before "Year 1".

  • @electromancer2645
    @electromancer26455 жыл бұрын

    "Amazing Grace" on the bagpipes made me laugh so hard

  • @gm2407
    @gm24073 жыл бұрын

    When I read G-Ghost mountain and the guy closes the door, I just imagined Scooby-Do.

  • @FunFilmzProductions
    @FunFilmzProductions4 жыл бұрын

    I don't really remember where I saw it, but I remember seeing an interview with Dennis o'Neill where he does say that he took a large influence from the 007 movies of the era

  • @PassiveNights
    @PassiveNights4 жыл бұрын

    It’s a sign of how great this era is that Ras Al Ghul was the villain in the Nolan movie...I love these so much

  • @TheTomimt
    @TheTomimt5 жыл бұрын

    Batman riding a flaming bear could be a comic story of its own. no, it should be a story of its own. Instead of driving a Batmobile, he could strike fear to the criminal underworld by chasing them with a flaming bear.

  • @AnthonyStJames
    @AnthonyStJames Жыл бұрын

    Bond's (From Russia w/Love) gold coins were inside an exploding attache case - THAT was the gadget.

  • @ianfinrir8724
    @ianfinrir87249 ай бұрын

    Batman rode a flaming bear off a cliff. That is the most metal thing I've ever heard of and I'm sad we'll probably never see that kind of nonsense in comics ever again.

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith36994 жыл бұрын

    That's not just mud... That's Chekhov's Mud.

  • @ramboti6402
    @ramboti64022 ай бұрын

    I didn't know what a still was. I thought they were speaking about a picture when reading this... Now the story makes sense

  • @jacobstaten2366
    @jacobstaten23665 жыл бұрын

    Shotguns don't spread out more than about 4 degrees. The people behind him are lucky not to get hit and the people next to the shooter are lucky for not going deaf. Ever notice how it's not okay to stereotype anybody ... Unless it's an Appalachian or Southerner.

  • @christianninsananda9626
    @christianninsananda96266 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of Dennis O'Neil... how about a look at the 80's run of the Question by O'Neil and Denys Cowan? Great writing and art in an underrated series. I don't think there was a bad cover in the run.

  • @JW666

    @JW666

    Жыл бұрын

    The covers where awesome! It really had some dark moments too! It wasn't bad, but there where times you wished The Question himself would have been more like Rorschach than Daredevil (and yes I know there's an issue where he ironically tries to be like Rorschach, but it wasn't his thing, though to be honest he barely even tried!). He might as well would have become like Steve Ditko's other creation Mr. A, it's not like The Question was part of any version of The Justice League at the time (but technically he kinda is now today and the first time we ever saw The Question as a League member was in the Justice League Unlimited show).

  • @donaldmcauliffe7653
    @donaldmcauliffe76534 жыл бұрын

    Adams saved batman in 1970s but his green lantern green arrow was the best of that time period

  • @PassiveNights
    @PassiveNights4 жыл бұрын

    I love Cabin in the Woods’ take on the creepy gas station attendant

  • @johnminehan1148
    @johnminehan11485 жыл бұрын

    I'm surprised Sal Amendola did not do more Batman work. He also did the famous Night of the Stalker story the issue before . . . .

  • @BrandochGarage
    @BrandochGarage4 жыл бұрын

    OMG - That is brilliant!

  • @T.R.R.Jolkien
    @T.R.R.Jolkien4 жыл бұрын

    I grew up with the Tarzan / Batman cartoon on Saturday mornings...

  • @oisintaylor3382
    @oisintaylor3382 Жыл бұрын

    RIP Moonshine Bear

  • @VonWenk
    @VonWenk4 жыл бұрын

    I think a monster that turns out to be a burned animal was the plot of a Cheyenne episode in the '50s. However short it was, I really like the Archie Goodwin-edited Detective Comics.

  • @mcraystudios
    @mcraystudios4 жыл бұрын

    Hilarious! Batman riding a flaming bear!! 😆

  • @raynebowmo2223
    @raynebowmo22239 ай бұрын

    Batman single handedly causes the comics code authority to be a thing when he killed that bear

  • @DRMADist
    @DRMADist7 жыл бұрын

    Nice new set

  • @ComicTropes

    @ComicTropes

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. It's modest but took a good amount of work. And at some point, I'll be able to show that there's a lot more to it.

  • @DRMADist

    @DRMADist

    7 жыл бұрын

    In the the video you just made where you showed you and your mate making the new set, it looked pretty interesting seeing how it's like a big moving comic book

  • @martyemmons1859
    @martyemmons18593 жыл бұрын

    I would've liked the video if you had explained a Jim Aparo Batman comic.

  • @Maryland_Kulak
    @Maryland_Kulak5 жыл бұрын

    I bought that comic for Manhunter and never read the Batman story. It’s on my nightstand right now lol.

  • @Maryland_Kulak
    @Maryland_Kulak5 жыл бұрын

    Do Walt Simonson’s Manhunter next, please.

  • @naysmith5272
    @naysmith52722 жыл бұрын

    that is actually a great story about the flaming bear.

  • @ThePalePatriot
    @ThePalePatriot12 күн бұрын

    I hate it when Batman turned into the "Dark Knight" in 86, Batman late silver age up to early 80s was sooooooo cool!

  • @KardboardKenny
    @KardboardKenny4 жыл бұрын

    13:02 - my new screensaver

  • @ultimatejoshiewoshieness
    @ultimatejoshiewoshieness5 жыл бұрын

    Mechanical bulls look like a lot of fun :)

  • @pedrovieira-ri7lk
    @pedrovieira-ri7lk3 жыл бұрын

    2:27- 2:33 So, essencialty, a Gary Sue?

  • @Supremmo
    @Supremmo4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how long it takes him to change into his costume?

  • @dreamlandnightmare
    @dreamlandnightmare11 ай бұрын

    That poor bear.

  • @CoreySosner
    @CoreySosnerАй бұрын

    Loved Aparo and Marshall Rodgers Batman

  • @RobertWilkinsonJKekMaloy
    @RobertWilkinsonJKekMaloy4 жыл бұрын

    13:57 that money was counterfeit, thus the hiding of it in the briefcase

  • @PassiveNights
    @PassiveNights4 жыл бұрын

    This has tropes of what we now call ‘folk horror’... Midsommar, Wicker Man, etc

  • @thotkraftstudios7334
    @thotkraftstudios73344 жыл бұрын

    Hey I havent seen all of these but you do Jeff Lemire yet. No swee tooth please, maybe some later work like Descender or Black Hammer something thats complete. I know Ascender continues Descender in a fantasy context but not the same thing. In other words Descender is complete. Sorry fo that I deal with mad contrarians, yo.

  • @gavinmarks2302
    @gavinmarks23025 жыл бұрын

    I think the artist was Dick Giordano, if he didn't draw it he definitely inked it.

  • @josegregoriobencomogomez4958
    @josegregoriobencomogomez49583 жыл бұрын

    Notice Bruce is hanging with a black haired woman he calls 'Kitten'. He may be having a hard time letting go of Selina, is what I'm saying.

  • @KAM1138a
    @KAM1138a5 жыл бұрын

    Good Episode.

  • @joejupiter4138
    @joejupiter41384 жыл бұрын

    So fricking messed up that Batman killed that bear. Poor thing deserved better.

  • @PassiveNights
    @PassiveNights4 жыл бұрын

    Where do you live that you can just find a mechanical bull? The place from that comic?

  • @timothystahl4096
    @timothystahl40964 жыл бұрын

    I never thought I would ever hear somebody say, "Batman rode a bear off of a cliff ... and that bear was on fire, too." 🤣

  • @FearMonarch
    @FearMonarch3 жыл бұрын

    Ok so i dont know months specifically, but 74 was the year of Texas Chainsaw, and that was P R I M E backwoods hillbilly being creepy so that could have been a good inspiration as well

  • @3dartistguy
    @3dartistguy2 жыл бұрын

    Batman comics were way too dark in the 1970s, i dont know they got published or much less got past the comics code back then. Aunt Harriet never hung out in the Batcave on the Batman tv series. In fact, the batman comics were so dark in whcih contaned violence and murder that my parents wouldnt let me read them even though they knew I love the batman tv series.

  • @Gabreya
    @Gabreya5 жыл бұрын

    That poor, poor, poor bear.

  • @foxb5974
    @foxb59745 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait to be a colourist for comics