I’m a Ford guy to my core but damn Smokey was a LEGEND!

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

Right on!

@fireball1322

23 күн бұрын

He worked for Ford too. In racing development dept IIRC

I’ve seen this car when it used to sit in the show room of Rick’s first generation Camaro in Athens before he sold the business. Great car.

@TwoGuysandaRide

2 күн бұрын

Awesome car

The rock crusher was the Muncie M22 which was also a close ratio like the M21 but had straighter cut gears which made the nice sounding whine.

@TwoGuysandaRide

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the great info and thanks for watching

@62cripple

2 жыл бұрын

My father inlaw had a 69 z28 302...here in NZ....sold it ....but still has the cross flow intake under his bed for safe keeping...🤣🤣🤣🍺

@edlonghorn1507

Жыл бұрын

That's a big 10-4 on the m 22 reply on the previous comment

@dpierson489

11 ай бұрын

See Ecklers Camaro parts to take a look at what a real 302 HEMI looks like...

@sergeantmasson3669

9 ай бұрын

@johnmilner7603, M22 was cast iron, M21 was aluminum.

600+ HP small block, 4sp/ w all the the interior goodies.. very nice Z28!

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

Indeed! Thanks for watching

Rick Hendrick has one of these engines in his personal collection in a black '68 Z/28. As I have read in the past Mr. Hendrick is quoted as saying "the car was immaculate when I bought it. It did not have this engine in it. The engine cost five times what the car cost." IIRC that information is on a placard in front of the car. The third car is NOT currently owned by Richard Childress contrary to what is stated in the video. Smokey did not create these engines. Chevy engineers did, felt they weren't making the power they had anticipated and THEN Smokey was contacted to see what he could do to get some real power out of the engines. And he did. It is truly hard to find information even with the internet on Chevrolet racing engines that at the time "didn't exist". But I have personally seen the engine as a Hendrick employee, put my hands on it, and it is real. Truth.

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

Ok

@larrynorsworthy8582

9 ай бұрын

That answered my question about the heads origins.

When Chevrolet got with Smokey, it was Vince Piggins, the father of the Z/28. He had corroborated with Smokey back when he ran engineering at Hudson in the early 50's.

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 күн бұрын

Thank goodness! Finally! Someone that knows some automotive history. Thanks for sharing!!

Technically, any engine with the canted valves and the spark plug in the middle is a "hemi". It's also called a "pentroof" design. Although the heads on my 2005 1200 Sportster have a hemispherical design, HD calls it a "bathtub". The heads on the 2.4L in my 2016 Patriot are exotic...DOHC, four valves per cylinder, dual variable valve timing, and the spark plug located in the center of the pentroof. It's a big Hayabusa engine! Chrysler got the idea from the aircraft engine builders.

@TwoGuysandaRide

4 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing and for watching!

The '68 GTO was the first GM car with the Endura bumper, not the '69 Camaro. M-22 was the rock crusher, not M-21.

@TwoGuysandaRide

10 күн бұрын

Ok thanks.

M21 is NOT a rockcrusher and rock crusher is a m22 and has straight cut gears that wine a bit and are a little stronger.

@TwoGuysandaRide

4 күн бұрын

Ok

I think it was actually a rotated, canted valve head and not really a hemi

@TwoGuysandaRide

10 ай бұрын

Not according to Smokey Yunick

@tommymac3029

22 күн бұрын

Smokey called it a hemi- it has a hemispherical combustion chamber. Actual hemis have the spark plug between the valves, however.This is more of a canted valve engine, with a rounded, open, combustion chamber. There's plenty of pictures on the interwebs of the heads off the engine.

@davidreed6070

22 күн бұрын

@@tommymac3029 absolutely

@fppro1679

7 күн бұрын

What cylinder head did they construe to be a hemi on a small block? I don't ever remember there being a candid valve head for a small block either. What kind of head is it??

@davidreed6070

6 күн бұрын

@@fppro1679 Smokey called it a hemi, I think he only built 2 of them. They were similar to a big block head

Thats not a Hemi! Thats a small block with big block style canted valve heads!!!

@TwoGuysandaRide

7 ай бұрын

Its a Smokey Yunick Hemi

Reggie Jackson brought that very 69 camaro into our shop back in the eighties to get it smogged. It blew my mind.

@TwoGuysandaRide

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this was indeed his car. It’s an awesome Camaro and that Hemi makes it super rare…1 of 3 Chevy engines Ever built that way! Thanks for watching

@matthewmiller2268

11 ай бұрын

Did it pass the smog check?

Interesting , Thank you.

@TwoGuysandaRide

6 күн бұрын

You are welcome! And thanks for watching!

Good job Ricky. 😊

@TwoGuysandaRide

2 ай бұрын

Indeed!

Hemi is short for hemispherical. Hemi cylinder heads have a spherical chamber has nothing to do with plug location

@TwoGuysandaRide

6 күн бұрын

Exactly!!! Thanks for the feedback.

You can get a nice M22 gearset from Italy.

@TwoGuysandaRide

4 күн бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Would love to see the dyno results 😊

@TwoGuysandaRide

9 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@kennydemartini2169

3 күн бұрын

You won't. This is just another fairy tail of the 'underrated 302'. I wish I had a dime for every time I heard about them. Hollywood should make a movie on the 302.

over 600hp...lol. Why not print a sticker that says 1000hp? Smokey said in his book -the Hemi 302 "was a half million dollar trip to sh*ttsville" . Why? because it did not out perform the DZ 302 that had the Traco heads and and been worked by the Penske team.

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

The Muncie 22 was the Big Block version of the rock crusher

@TwoGuysandaRide

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@markr5132

4 күн бұрын

Read my posts, you putting out bad information.

@BernardBouchard-qq9kq

4 күн бұрын

The M22 straighter cut gear keeps the gear from climbing and cracking the case.B stamped harder brass,lightened dogs,drain plug.they shift great at high speed.slick shift,pro shift,crash box.

I thought the M-22 was referred to as the "Rock-Crusher" not the M-21 as stated in this video?

@TwoGuysandaRide

9 ай бұрын

He misspoke

So the heads are a one off, center exhaust dump isnt together like standard gm small block heads correct?

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 ай бұрын

Can’t say for certain. We filmed this two years ago and neither of us remembers for sure. Maybe Google for more engine details of Smokey Yumicks 302 Hemi. Thanks

I got to see this car at Floyd Garrett’s muscle car museum

@TwoGuysandaRide

10 күн бұрын

Sweet!

Stock parts rubber shift boots and Randy Jackson nice.. Would of loved to hear more about the 302 hemi and the man who built it

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

sparkplug placement seems normal how could it be hemi?

@TwoGuysandaRide

2 жыл бұрын

Its a Hemi 302 Chevy engine designed by Smokey Yunick. Check out the article from MotorTrend in 2015 - www.motortrend.com/features/1512-with-its-hemi-crossram-check-out-the-rarest-1969-camaro-ever/

Maybe someone should tell this geezer the M22 was the rock crusher NOT the M21 ....why is this guy acting like he's never seen the inside of a 69 could it be he's a Late bloomer "Car Guy" posser ..Or maybe he didn't know that in order for the manufacture's to race a model they had to produce 500 cars ...these geezers are mainly investor types who had about as much grease under their finger nails as my grandma ..

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

According to Smokey Yunick's Chevy Engine Guide (S-A Design number 2575-4) from the Hot Rod Magazine's High Performance Series Volume 4 Number 3; which are a compilation of old reprints from Hot Rod's Mags prior to the 1987 copyright date: Chevy made six different Hemi head prototypes over a period of 17 years for the small block Chevy. One was a dual overhead cam (DOHC) variant, two were a single OHC version, and the other three were push rod engines. According to Smokey, who was one of six engine builders that GM trusted enough to experiment and report back their observations and opinions (Da Grump was another), none of the engines showed a very large advantage in horsepower, tuneability, or reliability to meet the needs of (in his case NASCAR) the racer, compared to the cost to manufacture. Because Chevrolet was in a the midst of a corporate racing ban, all of these heads were developed and cast in the engineering labs and snuck out the back door. This deniability allowed these racers to keep the parts as their own personal property with the understanding that no one know about them (except for Hot Rod magazine in Smokey's interpretation of the deal). So, no. GM did not produce 500 of these.

Hemi. Not a Mopar Hemi Then why are the plugs are on side of the c head. Don’t they need To be through the rocker covers.

@TwoGuysandaRide

8 ай бұрын

It’s a Chevrolet so yes of course it’s not a MOOAR Hemi. It’s a Smokey Yunick Hemi

@ate71622

4 ай бұрын

No, Hemispherical relates to the combustion chamber shape not the spark plug location.

Dz block hemi chambers m22 close ratio 😊

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

Thanks

Start it up

@TwoGuysandaRide

4 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching

correct me if im wrong - but doesn't a "HEMI" have the spark plugs at the TOP of the valve cover ?? ... (like a dodge)

@TwoGuysandaRide

9 күн бұрын

A "Hemi" refers to the hemispherical combustion chamber

@markhellman-pn3hn

9 күн бұрын

@@TwoGuysandaRide yes, i know that - where are the SPARK PLUGS ??

@douglascooper1987

4 күн бұрын

This is More like a Canted Valve, i.e. Cleveland Ford or 460, and of course the Chrysler Ball/Stud Hemi, and later Chevy's SB2.😐

OK, who has a picture of the combustion chamber to settle this?

@TwoGuysandaRide

24 күн бұрын

All you need to do is Google Smokey Yunick Hemi Chevy Engine. It’s very well documented

@douglascooper1987

4 күн бұрын

Chevy SB2 is close and Chrysler Ball/Stud Hemi from the 70s.😐

I wish someone would make a version of these heads for sale but itd probably cost the same as me building a machine shop so i mean 6 of 1

@TwoGuysandaRide

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@dennisyoung4631

6 ай бұрын

“… and a serious-grade aluminum foundry, complete with degassing gear, furnaces, crucible handling tools, a few tons of fine-grained foundry sand (water AND oil-bonded sands), core ovens, mixers and mullers…”

@dennisyoung4631

6 ай бұрын

And the woodworking gear to make the patterns!

@douglascooper1987

4 күн бұрын

SB2 is close.

Wow, I noticed you didn't ask permission to sit in this fellas museum piece. Just make yourself at home.

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 ай бұрын

LOL....in fact we did in the pre-interview

Dude needs to climb his heavy ass out of that rare car.

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

LOL

Hmmm 600 horsepower from a 302 ?

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

Yes. A Smokey Yunick Hemi

@kenm4678

11 күн бұрын

Current historic Group 6, 5 liter Chevy Ford Plymouth racers can make 600 HP . The hemi head is interesting but the combustion chambers are difficult to get info on.

If Smokey sez this is a Hemi, then it damn well IS A HEMI !! Cause Smokey never cared what anyone thinks, sez or does !!

@TwoGuysandaRide

4 күн бұрын

Truth

Niether guy knows what they are talking about.

@TwoGuysandaRide

10 күн бұрын

Guess that make 3 of you then

@jrwstl02

7 күн бұрын

I noticed that. Having enough money to buy a rare car, good for them! Could be expert or noob. When they keep quiet it’s a mystery, but when they speak it removes all doubt.

wrong = muncie M22 was the rock crusher = everyone knows that !

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 ай бұрын

Thanks

That’s called a Deluxe Interior and one annoying MC…

@TwoGuysandaRide

11 күн бұрын

Ok

I wish the guy would be quiet and let the owner speak

@TwoGuysandaRide

7 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching

Having canted valve heads makes this 302 a Hemi? So by the rationale that would make all big block Chevy motors Hemis also. Chrysler Corporation must feel really foolish spending all that extra money on their Hemi heads.

@TwoGuysandaRide

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

That's not a hemi.

@TwoGuysandaRide

8 күн бұрын

Read the comment thread and educate yourself

@JRH99

6 күн бұрын

@@TwoGuysandaRide I did, and it still isn't a hemi

@TwoGuysandaRide

6 күн бұрын

@JRH99 ok, you’re the internet expert, so I guess you’re right despite all the FACTUAL evidence….you’re right

@garyk76

3 күн бұрын

It’s still a hemi just like ford had a hemi and dodge had multiple size hemis lol

Click bait false title.

@TwoGuysandaRide

25 күн бұрын

How so?

@anvilsvs

25 күн бұрын

@@TwoGuysandaRide It's not a hemi.

@TwoGuysandaRide

25 күн бұрын

@@anvilsvs ahhh, but it is. Do your research. Smokey built hemispheric engines for Chevy to compete in racing but the program died after lack of corporate interest

@TwoGuysandaRide

25 күн бұрын

We just love when internet experts try to call us out……www.motortrend.com/features/with-its-hemi-crossram-check-out-the-rarest-1969-camaro-ever/

That IS NOT A HEMI !!!!!!!

@TwoGuysandaRide

8 ай бұрын

Yes it is. One of three ever made by GM. Google Smokey Yunick Hemi and see the history of this engine

Small block 'just under 600' HFS

@TwoGuysandaRide

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!