1964 Plymouth Belvedere Revived! Poly 318 Clatters To Life (And Immediately Overheats)
Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары
Cooling systems are extra… a lot of stuff is extra, really. On today’s episode, we revive this glorious two door post Belvedere, and assess its candidacy for a period drag car tribute build.
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"Mopars don't die, they just take naps." I would buy that shirt.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Noted!
@TrickyNinjaProds50
Жыл бұрын
Me too! I loved these on the road regardless of engine. Big block shiznit rules but I'd run one of these with a 225 Slant Six bored and set for max output. Lighter weight and as much hp and torque as a Small Block anything... Let's have fun!!!!
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
for SURE!
That’s the car for the hemi, sleeper granny car
Man, the sound of that Mopar starter!
Bought a 64 Belvedere 2 dr in 1972 for $200. It had 100k miles, ran great but was starting to rust. By 170k it was a real rust bucket but was reliable and ran like a champ. The 318 poly engine was heavy and not powerful, but it was smooth as silk and made plenty of torque. Performance was adequate and it never let me down. The pushbutton transmission was cool in my opinion.
I love those 62-64 Belvedere's. not only do they make good drag cars but they make REALLY cool Restomods. One of the guys I went to high school with in the late 80's has one that was his first car and still has it. When the Covid Dempanic hit he pulled it in his shop and started stripping it down so he could rebuild it into a Restomod weekend fun car. He rebuilt the 318, rebuilt an auto trans and rear end from a 72 Dart, and then he started on the interior, he found a set of buckets out of a 81 Plymouth Horizon/Dodge Omni and the center console out of a mid 90's Plymouth Sundance, he put a set 15" laker syle wheels on it and repainted it the Summit Racing Indian Bronze with all new with tan interior, that car is absolutely gorgeous.
Very cool old Belvedere! I had a 65 once, and have had 3 66's but the 64 is one cool drag race machine!👍 great video! Thanks for sharing!
@adotintheshark4848
5 ай бұрын
I had a '65 Belvedere hardtop with the 318. To this day one of my favorite cars.
Nicely done my friend. 318 Polys never die!
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
They just take naps! Haha.
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
The "318" Poly was A GREAT MOTOR! POWER, GREAT GAS MILEAGE, REALIBILITY!
@todddenio3200
9 ай бұрын
@@johnmaki3046I absolutely agree. I have one in my 63 Dodge 440 four door sedan and I absolutely love it.
The savoy had no trim it was the base model, belvedere was a step up
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Ahhh yeah, how could I forget about the Savoy? I’m a little more familiar with the next generation, when Savoy went away and they had Belvedere I and II.
My first car was a 65 Polara 383. It was out of tune and got 5-7 mph around town. You never forget your first ride.
Man oh man, those 318 polys are indestructible! My next project may have to have one under the hood.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
I want one running in something again! I have a poly core and a car hauler project coming up, but I did just score a Cummins engine… so that’s probably the better move.
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
These were AWSOME motors in AWESOME bodies/chassis! THE BEST CARS!
Just found this video and your channel, just started watching and already impressed. My buddies mom had the almost exact twin to this car. She pulled up to the station next door to where I worked one day with that car. She asked the attendant, another of my lifelong buddies to check her car out. She said it had just started running rough. I could hear it across the alley just barely droning along and missing consistently. I was walking towards their service bay when he came thru the door to come get me for some reason. He was grinning from ear to ear holding the dipstick up to show me. The stick had oil all the way to the top… of the stick itself. We walked in the shop so he could show me oil running out of the valve cover, he reached thru the window, hit the key and it still fired right off and idled. I have absolutely no idea how it wasn’t locked up solid but the damn thing ran, it missed like hell but it really ran. He later told me how many gallons of oil he drained but it’s been so long I can’t remember. Before sending her on her way she got an education about the dipstick and marks and their meaning. I’m my other buddies defense he had been on midnights at the coal mine for what seemed like forever so she didn’t want to bother him although he made it a point to go see her anytime he could to mow and take care of the place after his dad had passed. The car was garage kept and only left the garage for church or the grocery store or possibly the sears and roebuck occasionally. He still has his hemi 41 Willy’s and awesome mopar collection including moms car. Since seeing this video it reminded me of a poly 318 that grandad gave me with the boat torque converter drive from his drag boat, starting to think I should check it out for the 29 Plymouth I’ve been trying to figure out a power plant for. You just gained another subscriber, I’m already stoked about the channel.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Wow. That’s amazing… the poly is truly an excellent engine. I love ‘em. I’ve got one core here I hope to do something with eventually. Thanks for the sub! Glad you like my stuff. I’m working on more videos as we speak!
2-door could go either a drag car or hemi sleeper; that is a tough one. Hemi-sleeper!
Sure like the looks of that 64 Plymouth ❤
Nope the old 318's don't die.. My Dad had a 66 Coronet. Sold it to my best friend in 75 who promptly showed it no mercy. Long story short. It sat in my Dad's garage from 78 to 82. I hauled it home got the carb freed up dumped in some gas, and fired it right up!
Same engine in my 66 fury I took out of the woods at 14. Replaced some bent push Rods and a carb and he's a happy little 4 door
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
The MoPars of the 60s WERE AWESOME! Even with the "small block 318", they were QUALITY RIDES!
My first car was a 64 Plymouth Savoy with the poly 318. It would float the valves in high gear, which made me quite popular with Ontario Provincial Police!
Pure gold. Best drag car platform.
I love these ! 🎉
it started, wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Way cool, nice; thanks for the vid!
Just found your channel with this video, very entertaining you got yourself a new subscriber! :)
That's a cool ride, I would love to have it cause most of em back in the 70s was most usually on a drag track and street cause back then we had several places to drag race on the roads up the ol coal holler I grew up in lol..I honestly seen only one with a slant 6cylinder that was so surprising with how well it ran although he installed the engine himself cause that's all he had..He done a few things to the engine and changed the gears to 4.56 gears and that car flipped so many people out cause he had quiet exhaust on it lol..I preferred quiet over loud unless I's running open headers
Thank you for the fun videos! Oh and TURBO!!!
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
NO TURBO, PLEASE!
Just bought a 63 Belvedere post car!!! Love the early Plymouths. Mines gettting a roots blown 440.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I really, really want to do a blown big block in something. If operation Hemi doesn’t happen, the ‘64 would be a great candidate…
COOL!! video. It would be great to see you do something with the old Belvedere. There something cool about that body style I like.
not that it changes you're life but i had 61 belvedere. fun fact, a 57 DeSoto leaf spring fits the Plymouth. i drove it for 3 years on 7 cyls. my friend whom had a richer family put a giant wedge in his.
I (dirt track) raced a '63 Dodge "330" 2 dr. (with a "383" underhood!) THIS WAS A SCREAMER!
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome!
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage I LOVED this GREAT race car! I wish I could have had the talent to win with it! The POWER ("383 Commando") was WITH ME, though!
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage I bought this racing car from a GREAT friend (r.i.p. "Little Joe" Laznick!) for NEXT to FREE! The suspension was NASCAR PAVED TRACK READY! This sorta RUINED a DIRT-TRACK DEMON!
@briansignorelli7090
9 ай бұрын
Hey I also race dirt track with a 66 Plymouth Fury with a 383 Magnum great race car
DO THIS CAR UP'
I have a 318 poly in my chrysler windsor 49! Love it! And iiim a bit jealuos.... 😂
@patrikramberg3787
Жыл бұрын
And yes- dragcar ,poly or hemi dosent matter! And a battery
My face hurts from laughing, this is internet-gold! Even if this Belvedere BEGS for a Hemi (if you hold your breath during the video, you can hear its muffled wisper "hhhHHEEEEEMMIIiii"), I think I'd give it new floors first :P
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
But where will the stray cats poop if I fix the floor?! Ok no you’re right. Thanks for watching. Haha.
@LifeofnotBrian
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage You know, there’s a problem for every solution 😅
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
Tin (to this day) is CHEAP and EASY to install! I have accomplished this "feat" on MANY older vehicles! There ARE many "hemi-alternatives" (cheaper, EVEN BETTER) out there, you know!
I do think the 64 would be perfect for operation hemi with maybe those badass stack injection
Lots of hay bales needed on that test track out in the field aka portable universal brakes
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Big time! We’ve got a good few tires around too so that will help
Fix that red Fury!!!
Cool
What about the '69 Plymouth fury beside it? Is that one drivable? 🤔
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
No, but it’s an original cop car!
My connection to Aberdeen includes a 1967 (or so) Belvedere II that my grandma bought new and drove until 1984. I wonder what happened to that car. Do you know that place in Aberdeen called Zelasko Park? It's named after her uncle. There used to be a lot of Polish-speaking Zelaskos in Aberdeen, back when the sawmills and paper mills dominated the town. When my a for mentioned grandmother went to college at University of Washington, the only way to get to Olympia was by train. I think there were some poorly-maintained dirt roads, but the railroad was the only easy way to get to Olympia.
@baerster
Жыл бұрын
Weren't the early Roadrunners made on the Belvedere platform?
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Yes, I drive by Zelasko park every day! That’s so cool. . Ok, so… what color was that Belvedere II? This is important, because I bought a Belvedere II in Chehalis that originally came from Aberdeen. My friend Dave now has it in Vancouver. Yes, the Roadrunner is based on the Belvedere body. I’m big on the sheet metal and the basic car, so in my eyes Belvedere / Satellite / Roadrunner / GTX are just kinda the same thing. But the Roadrunner is the darling. Haha.
@baerster
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage Her Belvedere was light cream colored (I forget the exact color) and it had no radio. She was such a miser that she did not even want to pay for the am radio! I changed the plugs and adjusted the timing on it once. I heard later that she took it to her mechanic because she did not trust me. I can't blame her.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Wow. Haha. The one I bought was dark red. There is a cream colored ‘66 convertible around here somewhere too. I have most of the resident Mopars cataloged, as I’m sure you can imagine.
A very large displacement Max Wedge with cross ram.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@clembob8004
Жыл бұрын
HEMI. The first year they were built was 1964 which would make this a perfect car.
64 Belvedere post sedan car had 1426 4-speed 410 rear axle ratio with fenderwell headers it was a bad son of a gun for a street wedge
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
That sounds like an amazing car to me…
The reason the driverside cowl rust out drain hole tooling at the factory on driverside broke and they kept running cowls and never fixed them
@DeadDodgeGarage
6 күн бұрын
I’ve never heard that! Very interesting.
A good pressure wash and that thing would be Like brand used!
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Well you ought to see the video where I pressure wash all of the ‘64s then!
@bigwrenchtech
Жыл бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage FOUND IT!!
Also DONT RUN WITHOUT COOLANT PLEASE!! Good way to WRECK what could otherwise become a viable project!!!
@DeadDodgeGarage
9 ай бұрын
It’s fine - for a minute.
Lmho , well it’s running & driving lol
I bought a 64 sport Fury 2 days ago. Similar condition but I'd say mine is worse. Big block Hurst 4 speed. 383??
@DeadDodgeGarage
8 ай бұрын
Sounds like a party!
Just found an all original 69 Coronet 440 4dr with 18,000 original mi in excellent cond sitting outside in the mountains of Idaho....not sure what to do with her
@DeadDodgeGarage
10 ай бұрын
Drive it? Haha.
HEMI IT!!!!
Jamie, is that early poly 318 considered a big block? Of course the later LA 318 is a small block. Right?🤔
@DeadDodgeGarage
4 ай бұрын
No, it is not a big block. As far as the important internal dimensions (by which big blocks and small blocks are generally separated,) it is the same as an LA 318, putting it squarely in small block territory. However, because of the head design, it is physically quite wide, and because of the casting techniques in use at the time of its inception, it is quite heavy. The Poly hails from a time when big and small blocks weren’t a thing yet, so it’s kind of hard to classify. But by weight, length, bore center, and bore and stroke, it is smaller than any big block.
Do you still have this car and like yourself I like the poly something unique and cool they are only 30 lbs heavier than la
@DeadDodgeGarage
4 ай бұрын
Tom still has it. He has tried to sell it and has found no takers. That means it’s still available for my future ideas. Haha.
@Grandadsjunk
4 ай бұрын
@DeadDodgeGarage cool I look forward to that pity I wasn't a whole lot closer we could have done a deal for one of my Plymouth here in nz stuff is hard to find and very expensive getting from us I bought 2 sets of frost plugs for my 318 and 313 polys $170 nz with exchange rate and shipping price mounts up fast
Hi. How much does such a car cost? Greetings from Poland..
@DeadDodgeGarage
10 ай бұрын
It’s listed for sale currently for $2000 US. Unfortunately it doesn’t have a title, and I can only assume that would be a problem for you to ship and import it.
@strzyg1
10 ай бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage I have a 5.2 Magnum engine with a Speedmaster intake and a Holley 600 carburetor, so the car can be without an engine. It is important that he has documents. The import is carried out by a company from Poland.
@strzyg1
10 ай бұрын
Dodge Dart is also a good choice...@@DeadDodgeGarage
Had a 66 coronet with a poly 318 it did whatever was asked of it
@DeadDodgeGarage
6 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. The Poly is great.
Is it for sale
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Haha. Located in western Washington. No title. If interested email your info to jamienoise@gmail.com
cool vid....i am getting a 64 belvedere back on the road that was my dads car when i was a little kid...it sat for roughly 50 years....the old 318 poly runs good....check out my vids
@johnmaki3046
Жыл бұрын
The "318 Poly" was a GREAT MOTOR! The "273-variant" was also very good! These were Chryslers' "GLORY DAYS"!
I had a four-door Belvidere 64 what's a Polly 318 in it and that was a beastly son of a bitch rode like a Cadillac but had more ass in it than the Kardashians it would pass everything but a gas station
Hmmmm. That hemi deserves better.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
It could be better eventually… but it definitely isn’t better currently…
Dont "drag"all these beautifull old cars!
Since you had a small nozzle squeeze bottle, why didnt you use it to shoot gas down the carb bowl vent to fill the bowl with gas. I gaurantee it will start better with gas coming out the jets rather than just pouring a large slug of gas down the throat of the carb!
@DeadDodgeGarage
9 ай бұрын
Gas doesn’t come out of the jets during idling. It does come through the idle passageways, which are often clogged in carbs that have been sitting for decades. Also, I pre-fill the bowls like that all the time. If I didn’t in this video, I probably didn’t film it. And finally… no. When they’ve been sitting forever, a humongous squirt of gas is exactly what they need. I usually don’t use enough.
@kirkshields3585
9 ай бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage Went to school (tech college) and have been a mechanic since 1972. Since the vast majority of the people who will be watching your post are not, i would hope you would show ALL steps or others might not think of them, such as adding coolant to the empty radiator. And yes, i realize it takes a goodly amount of gas to get it going, but using a gas can to pour an unregulated amount into the carb could lead to disaster for some newby. I knew a person who suffered severe burns to face, arms, and burned a good car down,(tho he was having someone crank it, and it backfired up the carb) On a final note, i enjoyed the vid and love the name of your post/shop? Save all the old MOPARS you can!!!
Too bad the old girl wasn't a hardtop. She'd be beautiful to go with the attitude!
@DeadDodgeGarage
5 ай бұрын
I like the utilitarian look of these - and I like the square roofline more than the curvy ‘64 hard top. We actually got a hard top from the same place. That one is long gone, but this poor duck is still sitting in the back row…
@adotintheshark4848
5 ай бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGaragebeauty is in the eye of the beholder, not that the sedans were ugly by any means. I liked the hardtops because I had a '65 Belvedere hardtop.
@DeadDodgeGarage
4 ай бұрын
@@adotintheshark4848 Oh yeah. I'd love a '65 Belvedere - or a Coronet.
I love your program, but the amount of advertising is making it unwhatchable , the same way vice grip garage went ! 🇬🇧😩
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Yours is actually the very first comment on advertising I have had, so I appreciate the feedback. Unfortunately, if I want to build up a budget to do projects and keep the channel going, I do have to monetize any videos that have a chance of getting a ton of views. Personally, I got so sick of the repeated ads on long videos a couple years ago that I subscribed to KZread Premium. It’s cheap, and for someone that watches as much as I do, it’s money well spent. My apologies again.
@DeadDodgeGarage
Жыл бұрын
I did actually leave billboards and window ads on for this video as a test. I usually have video ads only - which I personally prefer.
@rshegg7605
Жыл бұрын
As long as you’re getting the dosh 👍🏻,keep up the great work 🫶🏻🇬🇧
@WillyMcCoy50
Жыл бұрын
I have a premium account for $11 per month. Never seen an ad for years.
When it starts to cough you need to feather the throttle. So frustrating to watch.
@DeadDodgeGarage
10 ай бұрын
Thanks, I’ve only done this fucking a lot.
i’ll take a BBC over a Slopar
@DeadDodgeGarage
7 ай бұрын
Cute! You can have them then. If I wanted to do hot rodding on easy mode, I’d build Chevys too.
@timothyconner4255
7 ай бұрын
@@DeadDodgeGarage oh, thanks I wouldn’t own Dodge if you gave it to me. I’ve owned a few dodges and not impressed.