WHAT!!! Seneca , S.C. Hell I live in Walhalla. I'm an old engine builder and red clay slinger. I drove for Carlee Heaton and owned my own for years. Disabled now broke my back some years back. Would love to meet up with yall oneday and hang out. God Bless, burn rubber.

The best thing about your work is that it borders on sculpture.

Bob Hamke Sr. built some awesome cars back n the day. The 119 Super Modified ruled South Fla.

That fab table and the Chevy II are bad ass!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Keith Wills Thanks

Have you ever heard tires squeal on dirt??? If not go to a dirt track. Some of the best racing I've seen and the technology is amazing in some of the cars. Look at a video of dirt latemodel rear suspension and you'd be amazed. Some people like asphalt and that's ok and you can't hash on someone for having there own nitch but if you were like I and pit crewed for a car you would be amazed at the amount of adjustment you have between the bar position to change the angle of the bars, bar length, springs, shock tunning, 5th coil adjustments and spring changes, moving the J bar. I could go on and on but ever change made has a action and reaction. I find it funny some NASCAR drivers drive dirt cars to practice there skills and to enhance there driving due to the constant change in the track from slick and greasy the whole way to where it's like concrete and rubber burns onto the clay and you can hear tires squealing in a corner. Just an amazing world that some people have never seen

Its going to be a nice looking race car will be nice to see it all done and racing

I did my past asphalt circle car that I built brand new just lile this I used a 1994 lefthander chassis number 9 for it. It was marked on drivers side near floor board on a piece of steel tubing with LH #9 welded on to it and left hander said yes it is chassis number 9 never recouped with original Camaro front clip tube test of way with quick change wide 5 hubs from the 90s everything was from the 90s except the 64 Chevy nova body I hung on it and it looked so good with the outlaw latemodel style bodies and ran up front with them my front nose is alot more flat and angled down for down force is only difference it looks so good I love y'alls build I would love to run the class yall run in run what you bring vintage oval racing sounds such fun 800 hp vintage looking stock cars takes a man to wheel some of them heavy cars around that fast on a small short track or even a half mile like mobile speedway and five flags would wear you out ina 800hp true vintage heavy stock car. Yall inspired me to put a old style 80s and 64 chevelle body modified to look like a 1980s style asphalt latemodel withbthe big long front fenders and hoods that are angled down to make down force

So damn lucky you have all the tools and shit to do all this. My 64 will NEVER look anything like that

Always some cool fabrication work goin' on around here, Kyle. That vintage outlaw Nova is looking pretty badass.👍 Looking forward to seeing more from you this week.👊 Take care, Kyle.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

thanks

Very cool!

This is very epic omg it looks wicked!!

Those homemade clamps are on point!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+David White thanks

Dude that welding table is sweet.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

thanks

Nice work Kyle. Those things look pretty cool.. BTW I got my shirt the other day. looks awesome! thanks man!..

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

awesome. glad you like it

awesome

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

thanks

I'd love to see these on the track

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

yeah it should be cool

Very cool, i think that is a trend you will continue to see in all racing... going back to the old cars....a lot of nostalgia drag racing going on now days too!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Russell Performance yeah I agree

@robertelmo7736

6 жыл бұрын

Yea, there is even this trend coming back strong in drag racing as well. kzread.info/dash/bejne/nKh3sbNvhrywo9o.html

@T.Russell3155

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely! NHRA had some Gassers at several of the races we raced at this year, they are a blast to watch!

@jackclark5220

6 жыл бұрын

A solid 75% of drag racing is 70 and older cars

@robertelmo7736

6 жыл бұрын

That can't be right LOL? 65 to 70% of them are fox bodies LOL

Love it and gotta see that truck build. Son

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

yeah for sure

The craftsmanship is just mind blowing! Sure would hate to rub fenders with something that has so much time and effort put in it to make it look good

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

lol....yeah im sure it will me mint once painted too

Ontario Canada went for "Hot Rod" but same philosophy. How close are we to stamped everything to keep the past alive forever? Gawl dang that's purty.

Sick!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+garage addict thanks

*inhales* yes. Just yes.

reminds me of the Nascarlo on Roadkill, looks sweet, next vid more bibster build?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

yeah it kind of does

@twizz420

6 жыл бұрын

That's where they stole this idea from, obviously.

@Hugh_Mungis

6 жыл бұрын

yep.straight theft

@stefandwoodham

6 жыл бұрын

RC Spear Rock this looks nothing like that peice of shit

I need more COWBELL! (Clecos).

It reminds me the 46th episode of Roadkill, where that the folks took a 70s monte carlo and hacked it to swap it into a 00s-model-based stock car chassis

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Vaios Kaliakoudas yeah

That nova is 👌🏻🔥

Take that thing, center it on the chassis and gap fools. Lol. It’s so nice to be only turning left.

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

On dirt, the car may be going to the left, but you're steering left and right, and on and off the throttle to get that car to go straight, then left. If the car is set up right, you're turning slighly right all the time, and steering with the throttle.

I can show you the same thing in a dirt car but with the falcon body that’s completely finished and won a world of wheels trophy. This is a very popular thing to do in racing these days. My build is going to be a complete chassis with the truck body on it.

A class like that on a late model chassis but on dirt would be sick

@brandonharze2133

2 жыл бұрын

It’d tear those beautiful cars up to fast. Def needs to be asphalt. Old school nascar style

It'd make a really cool street car too. I'd pick my kids up from school in that.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Hoyt Dutton lol

I dig it. :)

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Dirty D's RC awesome

Epic

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

thanks

как всегда сперва ставлю лайк, а потом смотрю. as always, I first put my finger up, and then I look.

Jimmy Spencer should drive that dirt track car.....mr. excitement

I subed and liked

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

awesome. welcome to the channel

Why do i love Clecos so much?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

they are rad

I like the car but one thing I heat is tires out side the body line.... I think and this is my opinion 🤔 but if I was to build one I'd widen the body and keep the tires in bond on all 4. I understand what your doing by offsetting the body but much better look and safer with tires in line. Awesome car tho and great workmanship 👍👍👍

Looks like the engine will be offset to the right......need to see it with the engine in it!

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

Generally, a lot of places require the engine crankshaft to be centered in the car, along an imaginary line halfway between the upper ball joints. That for rules sake is considered to center line of the car.

Finally got first comment! Great work Kyle. Inspirational and motivating stuff. I've picked up a lot watching your videos so thank you!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

no problem. thanks for watching

How's it going cool video I would like to see the inside of the front fenders a Little Closer and the edge outside this is a beast build keep up the good work

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+703 CRUIZ'N I'll see what I can do

@nelsona779

6 жыл бұрын

The Fab Forums thanks for the reply I just want to see a little bit more in detail how to do it or get an idea thanks keep up the good work

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

There is no inner fenders. The wheel opening edges were finished off with about 3/4" wide strips of sheet metal. Put in a break, folded in half. You end up with a 3/8" "U" channel that's GENTLY bent into an arc, then tapped into place over the wheel arch edge, then tack welded. You can leave as is, or you can Bondo the edge cap.

So racers will be buying up old iron and smashing it up on the weekends? Like finding straight stuff isn't hard enough...

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+MrZX1206 nah it's all repop panels

@plymouth-hl20ton37

6 жыл бұрын

My will be 70 Chevelle

Very cool! Saw the thumbnail and thought Nascova?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

lol

man that chevy's too nice to get trashed in racing.

@01SaharaEdition

6 жыл бұрын

It's not a real chevy II f it makes you sleep better

@MrEd-fu3dq

6 жыл бұрын

Other than the external sheet metal, front bumper - grille & headlamp trim, and rear 'trim', there ain't that much left of the original car. May not have started with "original car", could be all aftermarket restoration sheet metal hung on that greatly modified Hamke Late Model chassis. I'd like to see that Chevy II run up against NASCAR Whelen Modified Tour cars in an exhibition race. I like the vintage tin approach but that model was never raced on "circle tracks". Back in the 60's I saw a few 1st gen Chevy II's at drag strips in Gas class or and a few at SCCA sports car track local events.

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

Um, we raced a '65 Nova SS, in about 1980 on a circle track. Ours was a full tube chassis too. But it had original Nova SS sheetmetal. In entry level classes they would use uni-body cars. Classes that ran on street tires, on the quarter mile. All the classes that ran the half mile on racing tires were tube chassis.

@happyfamilycanada1129

6 жыл бұрын

This is (I think from what they are saying) a resto-mod "Outlaw" anything goes deal. Outside the typical local track divisions like you describe. Like vintage modifieds. Around here it is a 'novelty not supposed to mix it up' kind of affair. Like vintage modifieds. I hope they are using fresh sheetmetal and leaving the real deals for the street. Then it can grow without restriction, like the legends. Cars sure looked especially cool for a few years before aero turned them all into squashed jellybeans. And the new throwback stuff are tanks for fat old farts. Don't get me started...

you should do a meet up in greenville

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

I need to

@jacobsidorov

6 жыл бұрын

The Fab Forums awesome

Wait, so the body is offset on the chassis?

Very cool! The only thing that perplexed me is the offset of the front engine rails and why you wouldn’t have that parallel and true for corner weights and symmetry?.?.

@FaucetteRacing

6 жыл бұрын

When racing circle track, your always working with or fighting against weight transfer. You are trying to get all 4 tires to work the same amount. So the more weight you start with on the left, the closer the load on each wheel after the weight transfers to the right in the corner. There are many factors that affect the amount of weight transfered but it will transfer.

@Killerconceptz

6 жыл бұрын

Matt Faucette thanks for breaking it down Matt 👍 I figured it was about the weight transfer for circle track but wasn’t sure

@luckautofab4461

6 жыл бұрын

By offsetting you take the unsprung weight that you don't want away from the left side and put it to the right.. The goal is the have balance but put as much weight as you can legally as low as you can get it on the driver side.. Having it low adds more Leverage to keep all the unsprung weight from transferring to the right side.. thus causing the the inside tires to loose grip.. Kind of like a large four wheel drive truck with all the weight at the top, makes it easy to roll over the lower you can get all that weight the better is going to handle, but to counterbalance for the laws of physics when you're going around the turns you have to offset your weight so it is balanced as it turns

Any word on the AR lying on the welding table? :D

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Mark Dietzler lol....I was wondering how long it would take for someone to notice. It's one of my recent builds.

More of this car

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

Was planning to do a follow up...I will have to see where its at

If you had then safety cage on your build of the bibbsters like that you showed us of car it would save the driver and passenger....thicker tuboing frame .., roller bar ..,

Question. Are they going to add a horizontal tube to mount the shoulder harness, right behind the opening in the seat for the harness to go through? If not, they should go back and read the manufacturer recommendations. Right now, that set up is a back breaker. The quality of the actual construction is first rate, no doubt. But as a guy who worked with a driver mounting a seat, and belt system, then go bust the three foot thick concrete wall at Daytona, taking it head on at roughly 185 mph, and the driver walk away, then as an inspector a few years later, I think I know where of I speak.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

All they do is build very high end race chassis, Im sure they have it figured out.

My build is a street fighter truck based on a circle track chassis.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

sweet....gonna to an update on this build next week

looks just like buddy griffins number 7G ask robert hamke if he remembers that

so im assuming since u took a straight rail and made it a perimeter,basically all that is off set now is just the body? kinda silly they won't allow offset chassis but u can on the body? kudos 2 u!

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

The body isn't as offset as you would think. A lot of that is wheel back spacing, A frame length, and rear axle shafts length.

What is an underslung 3 link rear suspension?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

no idea but sounds like its the good stuff....probably do an update on this project this week

Digging the music!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

thanks

More on the drift wagon plz

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Jose v V soon

We had one of those. But we just called it the race car, as in, "If we don't hurry and get the race car loaded, we'll be late for qualifying." And that's not a VINTAGE race car. That's a new race car with and old body. I've got two true vintage race cars one was built in '74, and one built in '80.

Hey Kyle what state are you in I’m having a project I want to be done to my car sometime next year I’m looking for someone not too far away from my state I live in it involved a motor swap and some fabrication

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Curtis Matthew I'm in SC

What’s up with the lopsided offset? I don’t know much about racing, I understand it’s a circle track car, but I don’t remember seeing other circle track cars with a similar set up. Excuse my ignorance, I don’t mean any disrespect, just curious.

@rollprimopartz

6 жыл бұрын

Great channel btw, I’ve been really enjoying the grey goose and bibster builds.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

not really sure....Im sure they have a reason for it

@chadwb7079

6 жыл бұрын

Helps with the balance of the car when turning left being that weight transfer want to move right in a left turn under load.

Song name in the beginning

Boy that seat sure looks like it sits deadly close to the left side..

Trading, businesswise; how making through high school, 1970's. dad placed in control, parts, and storage in my reach... Eric

I wanna build something like this but sit a truck on a frame like that

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Carlton Wright well stay tuned because they plan to do just that

@TheMeathead1984

6 жыл бұрын

Yea man been watching your channel for quite sometime. I’m in the process of swapping a 59 f100 to crown Vic chassis and motor. To self teach myself fabrication.

What's the name of the song is it in KZread audio library

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

yeah...not sure what the name was

Do you still have black pearl. I haven't seen it in a while. I've missed a few vids though.

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Adam Johnson yeah

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Adam Johnson I have some plans for it once I move the shop

BADD-ASS

All I can say is God Damm

Is that Swords car?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Sterling Jaynes yeah

Someone bought shares in the Cleco company...

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+LukeTheJoker lol...a box full is always a must

Hey no response on my table guess you missed it

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

sorry....its a super nice setup you have. I need to get mine sorted and parts made

@pbmachines972

6 жыл бұрын

Hey Kyle thanks man you are one of the few that reply to every comment.

Dislike was the guy yet to get over the hump cash wise. He means nothing personal mate!

1st!

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

boom

Is that a reproduction body?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Shit box Yeah I think everything but the roof

@shitbox7413

6 жыл бұрын

Good, hate to see production bodies get sacrificed for roundy racing...

The Beverly Hillbillies" Car is funnier.

Right side looks ugly like an old modified with nerf bars

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

All about moving the weight to the left.

Too bad it will be beat to shit in a week knowing late model guys...

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

+Wesley Vaughn lol...

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

So, it's only sheet metal. It's especially no big deal because they are re-pops. I don't get the big deal. It's just another race car, somewhat nicely built, but it's not anything anyone can't buy. Call up Howe Racing, Port City, Lefthander, or any of the other chassis builders and tell them you want a perimeter frame, 105" wheelbase (or whatever the rules say), rolling chassis. Call Sherman ad Assoc., or National Parts Depot, and buy whatever sheetmetal you want, if you are required to run "original" steel. Otherwise their are plenty of places that sell aluminum and/or carbon composite bodies. I used a stock steel roof with aluminum panels on my last car. I made the body myself, so making a new one was standard procedure.

@WesV

6 жыл бұрын

Sure, its just sheet metal when money is no object, which if you're racing late models, it prooooooobably is.

So a modern outlaw with an old body..... whats the point of calling it vintage?

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

vintage body with no rules "outlaw"

@a.benaway_racing

6 жыл бұрын

The Fab Forums I know, but when its all the same under the body does it matter whether its "vintage", modern or mini van?

@DDS029

6 жыл бұрын

I agree. That is just your run of the mill late model stock car. I've seen guys cars that were built to compete in a local tracks regular division, and put a hand-made '57 Chevy body on the car. Except the roof, that was a real '57 piece.

Too bad the interior is so basic

@Thefabforums

6 жыл бұрын

race car