In 1962, I saw the '62 Old Reliable do 12 flat 120 at Atco NJ. You couldn't hear the shifts and you couldn't see the nose drop. I was 19 and was GOING OUT OF MY MIND.

@Anarchy-Is-Liberty

2 жыл бұрын

Did you get help? Are you doing OK now? Hope you're doing better today.

@chrisg3993

Жыл бұрын

I can see by your comment and your little anarchist profile image, you're a self absorbed douche bag!

Fantastic.....that legendary Chevy wasn't even going hard, but still pulled great. You could sense and feel that tremendous engine just wanting to go... I'm a MOPAR man, but any of these vaunted warriors from a bygone era are pure inspiration......tremendous!

There has never been or never will be a better sound than what comes from the old W engines with big cams. They just sound so good.

Part throttle, shifting at 4 grand and the thing still goes 14.38 @ 96! Bitchin!!! Great video

Thanks for giving us a glimpse back to the '60's kind of drag racing. My aged heart flutters at seeing and hearing this car going down the strip. What a sound the 409 has!! Puts me back behind the wheel of my '69 Z-28 Camaro, waiting for the light. Beautiful car. RIP Dave and "Grump". Old farts like me appreciate the founding masters of drag racing' early days in Stock competition.

It's really sad to see so many disrespectful, critical naysayers on here and other formats. Zip it or say something nice. This is an extremely valuable peace of American history. You just don't beat a vintage car worth nearly a million dollars to death just to please the critics. Nope... you act like a grown up like this guy, realize what you have, and you respect it. The car (and the driver) have absolutely nothing prove anymore. Just be grateful it survived through the years so everyone could have a glimpse of it - and a nostalgic, respectful run on the track today. The guy even said before he drove it he'd be taking it easy on it. For those who made positive comments, thanks- you are why I still love the hobby.

@topstockfilms

8 ай бұрын

100% agree

I learned how to drive in a ‘62 Chevy Biscayne.

what many of you do NOT know, is that the Z11 63' chev (which was a 409 bored out to 427), was the VERY FIRST STOCK car to run in the 11's....I believe it was done at Irwindale in 63..... not a Mopar, not a 427 Ford, a CHEVROLET IN THE FRICKIN' 11's !!!!!!...i still have the magazine it was reported in.....in 1965, I had a 4-speed, Dual Quad, Positrac '63 SS 409...it ran , with 4:11 gears, and STREET tires a 12:99 @ 101 MPH at Port Orford Dragway....and this was a 2-dr hardtop with bucket seats...no power steering, no power brakes.....

@mixhits9306

Жыл бұрын

Lions Dragstrip. My mother (Louise Porter) set the record in that car. My family owned Porter Chevrolet on Colorado Blvd. in Pasadena.

That is a real Chevrolet!

Give me a break. That's a 1/2 million dollar car. No need to destroy it. Be happy it still runs and you can see it.

@nycsongman9758

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

Nice Car and Thumbs Up for you also.

Legendary and history race car.....it has nothing to prove with a fast run.

I will be buying the model kit of this powerful car!!

That car was never intended for a drag strip.

63 Z11 only 57 ever made my favorite drag car

This car ran in the 11's, (11.97 I think)back in 63. These lightweight Z11's ran 12.0's mostly.

A friend still has his Z-11 that he raced professionally they are a unique limited production machine.

@treaverbombard3398

10 ай бұрын

Only 57 ever made

Awesome! Yes I could have been faster and powershifted but why destroy a piece of history like that. I'd have babied it also.

@ScooterLee-ei1ep

5 жыл бұрын

Yea baby it and drop the drive shaft. The idiot driving almost done it

Great video, however, it sadly dosent do that historic car any justice, it would have been nice to see it make a real pass with someone that could actually shift, as many of these cars have ran in the 11's

@soulsliderlost1045

5 жыл бұрын

Lol yea tear up some history?

@ScooterLee-ei1ep

5 жыл бұрын

@@soulsliderlost1045 😂😂😂 aint gonna hurt it with some who can drive. The guy driving it almost left the drive shaft on the track.

@robertspicer3716

4 жыл бұрын

Shifting was brutally wrong.😑

@animalcorvair

3 жыл бұрын

he was easy on the old girl ..like i do to my 56 chevy

@animalcorvair

3 жыл бұрын

@SuperGoldnut your right

Would have been awesome to have an old Pontiac 421 Catalina in the lane next to it! That w engine sounds great

13:5:1 427 and this package could be bought off the showroom floor lol

Who cares what it ran ,it ran and that's the point !

@kenamaro

6 жыл бұрын

Barry Snider , agreed ...I don’t understand why people always have to be so critical. Why risk destroying the engine by trying to run 11s ???

@naltwaundarby7414

6 жыл бұрын

kenamaro would be nice to see it run 11's like it did back before I was born lol

I have video I took from the Timing Tower. This is a good video

@topstockfilms

3 жыл бұрын

Are you able to share? is your video posted on KZread?

Let's everyone give Stevie Wonder a big hand for driving the car at the track.

magnificent car!!! however I had a STOCK 62 409 2X4 4-speed ..what a dog!!! Car ran 14 ;20 best ET , Compared to my 68 COPO 427 Biscayne ran 11;60s at 114 !!!

@matrox

8 ай бұрын

I think the driver is just sorry, takes him 2sec. between each shift.

NEEDS A DRIVER

That sucked short shifting? that was total disrespect!!! might just as well left it in his trailer with the pretty curtain's...

Junior Johnson said the mystery motor either won or blew up, but most of the time it was the latter.

Here are a few metaphors that depict what's awesome about this car: UFC middleweight champion perfectly executes a double leg take down on the hostile man at the bar and knocks them unconscious. this is a 2018 Tesla Model S P100D 'Ludicrous' mode enabled doing a launch. - Yes very impressive no doubt about it. - but it's done with such relentless forward propulsion from the stop that you're not able to view the MMA fighter or the Tesla with the same reverence as people would've viewed Steve mcqueen or this impala back in the day. There are no secondary motions not a single horsepower is wasted and the sequence is done and over with long after your able to weigh in on the details of what you just witnessed it simply overwhelmed everyone involved and projected this sense of 'high technology' or a life time of martial arts training and experience leading to the fighters position among the most elite in the sport. Heroic? Oh definitely. Characterful? No not so much, though if the fighter was Conor mcgregor then absolutely but he's more of a one-off. Steve Mcqueen puts down his glass of whiskey and extinguishes his cigarette, walks up to the man grabs him by the front of his collar knocking him back a couple steps as he finds a grip and bunches up his shirt collar then wrenches him forward and slightly upwards before pulling him into a brutal head butt to the bridge of the mans nose and then positions himself to exert as much force as he can and throws him over the bar knocking everything over and falling in a heap on the other side. This is what you get when you launch the Z11 impala.. It throws its body both forward and backwards whilst fastest possible forward motion is the goal, so it's inefficient and wasteful yes, but it's also got character and a sense of style in doing so that you can forgive it for its flaws. It's heroic, relatable and you know that it was made and designed mostly by hand, nothing significant was done without the involvement of a human being. It IS the occasion by itself everywhere it goes where the Tesla gets you to an occasion very quickly and efficiently.

I JUST LEARNED THE Z 11 WAS BUILT ON THE 409 W BLOCK .ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS THE FIRST BBC ?

@GlassTopRX7

6 жыл бұрын

The first Chevy big block was the 348 which is also a W block aka Mark I 58'-65'. The Mystery motor was a Mark II, basically a W block with Mark IV heads only used for racing. The Mark IV is what most people think of when they think Chevy big block was introduced in 65'. It came in two flavors the solid lifter L78 for the Corvette only and the hydraulic lifter for the Z16 Chevelle. The L37 is the only hydraulic lifter rectangle port big block they would make.

@lieugebo805

6 жыл бұрын

COMMANDER of the NORTH exactly my friend I'm glad to see somebody knows what's going on 427 cubic inches also

@jamesglavich1426

3 жыл бұрын

@@GlassTopRX7 The 63 Mystery motor did have the short stroke and large bore of the 427 Z-11, but the mystery motor had combustion chambers in the head and not in the block as the W motors had.

@GlassTopRX7

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamesglavich1426 That what I was saying, I guess I could have stated it better. The do use W block type crank with the small main journals. What I really trying to get at is the Z-11 was a W block 427, which was a factory race engine. It was not the Mystery motor though. The mystery motors were Mark II engines that also was offered as a 427 along with a 396 and 409 displacements, none were ever production engines, race only. On the outside they look very similar to the Mark IV, internally like you pointed they have in head chamber but used a W block style cranks. The Mark IV is what most people consider the BBC, even though all three engines are technically BBC's

Not sure on this but wasn't the 63 mystery motor a 427 wedge motor not a 409, anybody know

@henrymccarty8077

6 жыл бұрын

jeff theis , That's the way I understand it. The "mystery motor " was, in '63 the 427 rat motor's first appearance. There were only a few out there. Junior Johnson cleaned house with his in Nascar. Old Reliable had a 409. The Z11 race version with better heads.

@GlassTopRX7

6 жыл бұрын

It was a Mark II that used heads similar to what the Mark IV used but on a W block. They aren't a wedge design though any more than later Chevy big blocks or Fords Cleveland. The canted valves give them a semi hemi shaped combustion chamber with stagger valve. They made them in 396\409 and 427's.

@lieugebo805

6 жыл бұрын

jeff theis a z11 is a 427 cubic inch W Motor the same style as the 409 and the 348 has the W valve cover same style cylinder head but a very rare cylinder head in this case look it up

@kenc5970

3 жыл бұрын

@@henrymccarty8077 Actually they did not clean house in Nascar. They did not hold together for the race. Ford and Chrysler were the winners though out the 60's. Those early Chevy 427's made lots of power but did not hold up. Blocks were weak !

So primitive compared to the super "stock"s of today----but interesting to see, and be reminded where it all started.

Have you never learned to power shift? I’ll show you 12 second 1/4 or better.

When Dave Strickland drove the car he didn't gritty shift

Gibs me car!!!

Good stuff (I'm from York). That aside, my little SLK 350 (213 cu" daily driver) is quicker.

dang o man ntell you wut boo

Thar car was beat more than once ny Ronnie sox at 75 80

The sorriest shifting I have ever seen on a drag strip.

reliable more like the missile 409 ignition missile away::::------------------------------x

Maybe find a driver that isn’t afraid to powershift and make a representative run. Awesome car with a lot of history. But, it is a race car.

@christiansoldier1968

2 жыл бұрын

@Micah Castillo, I'd love to see it run too, but it's easy to do that when it's spending someone else's money...something I'm also guilty of doing mentally. I have a '61 Bel Air and I'd love to put a 409 in it, but I'm not wealthy and haven't won the lottery. Consider the historical value of the car itself, if something were to turn loose under high RPMs,...causing it to wreck. Also,...that car isn't running a crate engine, SBC, or BBC engine with 20+ years of production. 409 blocks (this car is a bored out 409 to 427) were produced from mid-1961 - 1965. That's it. Rarity increases costs because only so many people cast replacement parts for this engine, and they charge accordingly for what they are providing. On the power shifting,...same thing on potential damage to the transmission to a very special car. As for this guy's clunky shifting,...I"m reminded of every time I've had the privilege to drive my dad's 1970 Chevelle SS 454/4 speed M22. I had a 95 Civic 5 speed that I could make dance, with the ease of a hydraulic clutch., but after driving that SS for a few hundred miles, town and highway, with a mechanical clutch, I feel like I just finished leg day with Lou Ferrigno. If you're younger than me, he played the Incredible Hulk on the late 70's tv series.

@christiansoldier1968

2 жыл бұрын

@Micah Castillo, this isn't a 427, but it is a 1963/409/4 speed. This old man gets down. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dJyduLuYodbLfrA.html

It could go alot faster. Open her up boys

It was great to see the car but I'd rather see it really raced and it's glory not going 14 seconds LOL I want to see it leave hard and shifted hard put it back in the museum

It won 90% of its races, not 99%.

I can get enough of that old school big block sound.

I could have got a better time out of it if I was driving just saying

Your not kidding Gary. If that car had 12 1/2 " slicks and someone who knew how to drive it and had a good reaction time, that car would have run 100:38 at least. That guy should go back to high school and watch some real racers. My 1970 SS 402 ran 10:58 at 137mph with 12 1/2" slicks, and it was my street car that weighed 3,850lbs. I don't know why they let him make that car run like shit.

@markg7030

7 жыл бұрын

You meant SS 396 right?

@firebirdjone

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly, everyone has to realize this fella wasn't trying to make a full blown pass with it. It's nice to see it go down the track again but quite frankly, it's historic value and rich racing history really makes the car too valuable to race today. It's the same reason many of the other "Reliable" cars that Strickler and Jenkins were involved with are also retired from racing. Like this 68 Z for example kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKyB1M6QgcrTp5M.html that won the 68 super stock championship. McNeish retired it from racing a few years ago because honestly risk became greater than reward. He sold it in 2014 for $253,000. The Impala is on the same scale.

@ericmark472

6 жыл бұрын

I believe that the later 396's were actually 402 ci but still badged as 396's.

@GlassTopRX7

6 жыл бұрын

Dude you would have had to done a fuck ton of work to get that Chevelle into the 10's and it would be a very high strung engine. The engine would need to make around 750-800hp so I'm call BS on that. Getting one out of the 12's naturally aspirated would be impressive.

@lieugebo805

6 жыл бұрын

Joseph Monaco hey Goofy they weren't trying to drive it hard that's the point

My dad's 58 Nomad would do that.

The driver needs some practice ?

The old saying is if you can't find them grind them !

Drives like an old lady

I fell asleep during shifts.

My Grandmother could get a lower ET than that .. Put one of them modern 10 speed autos in it I guess..

number one it was not a rude comment, I was simpky stating a fact, and since the video leads you to believe that it is an illistration of the potential of these cars, someone not knowing the history & performance of these cars or someone that has read about them, would be misled and dissapointed, there are many videos of 409 & Z11 cars that actually show the true performance of these cars, many other rare peformance worth over 7 figures are ran hard as well and not "a showpeice" also I do not "always show up and post rude comments" as you put it, a typical example of people distorting facts, so if you are offended by fact or opinion, maby you should take up something that doesnt require human interaction, and different points of view, like say knitting

eats fords for breakfast,

slow, cant 'shift!

What a joke. Guy can't shift to save his life

Guy should practice more…that was horrible.

A old women can out drive him

terrible run.....

Painfully slow

Great video, however, it sadly dosent do that historic car any justice, it would have been nice to see it make a real pass with someone that could actually shift, as many of these cars have ran in the 11's

@mothertree

7 жыл бұрын

I knew I would find you here,Gary! You always show up to make rude comments about someone doing something nice.If Don had wanted to row thru the gears he could have,he is quite talented.

@williamhouk6880

6 ай бұрын

@@mothertree He even stated before the run that he wasn't going to hammer it, but just show that it still run, and he did just that. nothing more, and that was quite respectable on his part. Back in 73', I came home from the Navy on leave to find this very car in my buddy's driveway, What a shocker to see Strickler's race car in my home town. He kept it up through the 80's before he sold it to a car collector in Hershey, Pa.