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This video describes how a dual directional coupler that is used in an SWR meter operates. It describes and demonstrates how voltages are developed that are directly proportional to the forward and reflected signals on a transmission line. The coupler shown is a common designed used by ham radio homebrewers in their SWR meter designs. It is widely published, and can be found in several issues of the ARRL Handbook.
Basics of Directional Couplers:
• #158: Directional Coup...
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  • @charlesrichards1673
    @charlesrichards1673 Жыл бұрын

    This is a really superb explanation. The operation of the directional coupler is hard to decipher, and you made it easy. Thank you!!!

  • @akm3726
    @akm37263 жыл бұрын

    That's an excellent clear description of how these circuits work. I always had trouble getting my mind around how it 'knew' which part of the signal was forward and which was reflected and why. Thanks!

  • @davidlisney2059
    @davidlisney20599 жыл бұрын

    This is probably the best explanation that I have ever seen for the workings of a VSWR meter. Well done once again!

  • @StefanGeets
    @StefanGeets5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alan. As always, clear theoretical explanation added with a pratical demonstration !

  • @mortenlund1418
    @mortenlund14183 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely perfect timing, voice, drawings, logic, testing etc. Thank you.

  • @billycullen2779
    @billycullen27797 жыл бұрын

    Well explained, you have the perfect voice for lecturing and very professionally done.Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! 73 Billy EI9KB ,

  • @jeromewhelan6723
    @jeromewhelan67237 жыл бұрын

    Very instructive to see the forward voltage port remain unchanged, while seeing the total voltage trace respond dramatically as the changing termination impedance changes! Having only seen the changing "total" voltage displayed on a scope before, it was enlightening to see the separated "forward" and "reverse" voltage simultaneously displayed. Nice job making the math entertaining! AB3SX

  • @hubercats
    @hubercats2 жыл бұрын

    A wonderfully clear presentation on directional couplers. I’ve long wondered how such devices, which heretofore seemed almost magical, work. Thanks to your efforts I think I now understand the basic idea. Thanks much! -Jim

  • @Derundurel
    @Derundurel3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this. I am mainly a digital guy, but am trying to get my head around RF things a bit more. This sort of guide with practical demonstrations is really helpful.

  • @FirstWizardZorander
    @FirstWizardZorander9 жыл бұрын

    Excellent demonstration, as always. Thank you!

  • @noakeswalker
    @noakeswalker4 жыл бұрын

    Have only just discovered your channel... I've been a radio amateur since 1972, this is the first time I've properly understood what's going on in the VSWR meters we all use - thanks Alan :o)

  • @Sjampster
    @Sjampster9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the explanation about couplers. The best I have ever seen!

  • @queuerious
    @queuerious9 жыл бұрын

    Clarity, brevity, inspiring. Alan, you remain Top Dog in the sharing and 'you can do it too' school of such topics. Thank you for making your channel and contents! I'm off to build your simple Schmitt Trigger TDR to a) measure my 1/4 wave transformers and b) to remind/convince myself that voltages actually DO bounce off impedance mismatches and reflect! I'll have a go at making this coupler, embedded into a QRP AMU that I have plans for....

  • @simoncroft9792
    @simoncroft9792 Жыл бұрын

    What a masterful explanation! Great video.

  • @N4KRX
    @N4KRX5 жыл бұрын

    Very clear explanation. Thanks for the demo. I really appreciate your channel.

  • @KD0RC
    @KD0RC9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again Alan, I watched this and your Basics of Directional Couplers and am finally getting a handle on all of this... I built a return loss bridge and now get the difference between it and a DC. Might round out your series nicely to do a session on RLBs. 73, Len

  • @user-jt6hk5ju9r
    @user-jt6hk5ju9r3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alan. Excellent lecture with practical demonstration.

  • @marcusjenkins
    @marcusjenkins9 жыл бұрын

    Alan, I wish just some of my lecturers at Electronic Engineering school were half as good as you at explaining things. Good job. 73, EA5IGC

  • @jdmeaux
    @jdmeaux7 жыл бұрын

    Although I thought this was going to be another construction video, you did a great job at explaining what was happening and how it effects other values. Thanks for a great video. Moe K2JDM

  • @Gabbe0x58
    @Gabbe0x589 жыл бұрын

    I really like your videos Alan, they are all very pedagogical. I have learnt a lot from you! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!

  • @cyborg251
    @cyborg2517 жыл бұрын

    Great Video, and a VERY good explanation for directional couplers!

  • @TheHubblethebubble
    @TheHubblethebubble3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alan. Very clear explanation of something i couldn't get my head around. 73's PA3DSB

  • @gregcook9915
    @gregcook99158 жыл бұрын

    This video is really well done! Thanks a lot...this has always puzzled me, but you made it perfectly clear.

  • @basspig
    @basspig3 жыл бұрын

    Good explanation and presentation. The nuances are the core material (permeability) and the number of turns on the core.

  • @dave-d
    @dave-d3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Excellent presentation as always. Really appreciated.

  • @Cyrob-org
    @Cyrob-org9 жыл бұрын

    Very Simple and clear explanation,perfect....Thanks

  • @quantenschaum
    @quantenschaum2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Excellent explanation and demonstration, very educative.

  • @jonahansen
    @jonahansen3 жыл бұрын

    This is such a great explication. Thank you so much - you are one in a million!

  • @chrismorley9339
    @chrismorley93396 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation Alan - in all respects! Chris VK3CJK

  • @WPF465B
    @WPF465B Жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation, as always, thank you.

  • @teuluPaul
    @teuluPaul5 ай бұрын

    Superb explanation - Many thanks!

  • @BaldurNorddahl
    @BaldurNorddahl2 жыл бұрын

    Wow took me 30 years to understand that circuit. I tried to build it as a boy but I couldn't figure out how it would work. Now I know :-)

  • @octavmandru9219
    @octavmandru92193 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are like a knowledge milestone for me. First time, I understand very little, but at a later moment in time I come back and watch again, to see how much I understand. When I can basically recite from my mind, I know I reached that milestone. Thank you Alan, your way of teaching is absolutely top notch I have a hard time to understand why you used the coaxial line and not just a bare conductor. Is is that you want to stop electrical field to pass to the toroids, and retaining only magnetic field? If so, I was not aware it is possible to sample magnetic field like that. If I understand correctly, it would not have worked if you connected the braid of the coax in both sides

  • @yoanndelacalle3304
    @yoanndelacalle33046 ай бұрын

    Thanks!! Great explanation and easy to understand. Thank you very much

  • @bashirshadi1773
    @bashirshadi17734 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for the explanation including the theoretical derivation, Excellent.

  • @georgempoteetsr3357
    @georgempoteetsr33575 жыл бұрын

    I've always enjoyed your videos and found this one most informative, keep up the good work. AG5AJ George M Poteet Sr.

  • @user-uv7ug1du4n
    @user-uv7ug1du4n3 жыл бұрын

    Great video for the principles and experiment of SWR. Perfact !!

  • @the_ALchannel
    @the_ALchannel3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, just what I needed to grasp that topic!

  • @OctavMandru
    @OctavMandru2 жыл бұрын

    It really is RF magic. That definitely proves Alan is a magician.

  • @davidlisney2059
    @davidlisney20599 жыл бұрын

    Great tutorial as always!

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic5 жыл бұрын

    Very cool. I've always wanted to inderstand this. Thanks for the great explanation.

  • @Sixta16
    @Sixta166 жыл бұрын

    Awesome as always!

  • @SeAfasia
    @SeAfasia9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alan,very helpful tutorial!

  • @jvkew
    @jvkew7 жыл бұрын

    This is delightful. Thank you.

  • @rs232boy
    @rs232boy9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for these explanations, great job !

  • @gooball2005
    @gooball20054 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I've wondered for a while what the theory behind coupling a signal one-way was.

  • @andrewphillip8432
    @andrewphillip84323 жыл бұрын

    Wow that was a great video! Thanks for making this

  • @NatureAndTech
    @NatureAndTech7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. This video and the one about IQ modulation have proved really useful to me. 73 from OZ7JBH.

  • @SuburbanDon
    @SuburbanDon5 жыл бұрын

    You re a good teacher.

  • @ozioldman4720
    @ozioldman47204 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Allen a great tutorial

  • @iu0itx-silveriosarra536
    @iu0itx-silveriosarra5363 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, very clear explanation and demonstration

  • @godarklight
    @godarklight Жыл бұрын

    Built one today and tested for a home brew radio, although not as pretty it gets the job done!

  • @BalticLab
    @BalticLab9 жыл бұрын

    Good job, as usual! Thanks for leaving stripline couplers for me ;)

  • @w2aew

    @w2aew

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm looking forward to your treatment of coupled transmission line couplers, and circulatory, and all of the other microwave magic bits.

  • @HansVanIngelgom

    @HansVanIngelgom

    8 жыл бұрын

    +KF5OBS I'd love to see you make a video about that subject. I just built a stripline coupler for testing purposes, and although it works great for a first prototype, I'd love to get some more insight in how it works exactly.

  • @TechBrant
    @TechBrant3 жыл бұрын

    That's the best explanation ever!

  • @siavasheskandary4101
    @siavasheskandary41013 жыл бұрын

    very high quality explanation, thx

  • @olivalle
    @olivalle3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this excellent explanation

  • @Drforbin941
    @Drforbin9418 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @bigcx21
    @bigcx219 жыл бұрын

    great explanation, thanks

  • @aikoada
    @aikoada9 жыл бұрын

    thanks for uploading this vid..

  • @urlkrueger
    @urlkrueger9 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic ! The math really helps in understanding this.

  • @guillep2k
    @guillep2k7 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @rickwise9910
    @rickwise99104 жыл бұрын

    I watched this before, and it's wonderful! Coming back to it again, I do have a question about the math: In the first diagram and equations for how it works, it uses -Vr in the current equation, but Vr in the Ir equation [ Ir = -Vr / Z0 ] and in the line current equation [ I = (Vf - Vr) / Z0 ]. This creates an inconsistency, because if I take the line equation [ I = (Vf - Vr) / Z0 ], I should be able to derive V from that. I * Z0 should equal V, and from that last equation, that yields V = Vf - Vr, whereas the first equation says V = Vf + Vr.

  • @Arijit_VU3ICT
    @Arijit_VU3ICT2 жыл бұрын

    As always you are great... Thank you..

  • @michaellove7912
    @michaellove79123 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Alan.

  • @aduedc
    @aduedc Жыл бұрын

    Great clip, thanks.

  • @buffplums
    @buffplums4 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant tutorial

  • @user-xz5eh3gi3d
    @user-xz5eh3gi3d5 жыл бұрын

    thanks Alen. it helps a lot

  • @wemme
    @wemme6 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. Thanks for sharing

  • @BarefootBeekeeper
    @BarefootBeekeeper4 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done.

  • @072032786
    @0720327868 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much this gold inform.

  • @njnear
    @njnear9 жыл бұрын

    You've peeled back a layer of the onion for me. For some reason I had assumed that directional couplers used wave guides, which I've never had time to try and understand. This makes perfect sense. Also, this would be fun to model in a spice program.

  • @w2aew

    @w2aew

    9 жыл бұрын

    Some do. Some use coupled transmission lines. There are a lot of ways that directional couplers can be built.

  • @jamesmcintyre9985
    @jamesmcintyre9985 Жыл бұрын

    Nice explanation. The missing bits are how to determine the core material and cross sectional area of the core, which I assume have to do with the frequency and power level of the main line signal.

  • @zinahe
    @zinahe9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @BooktownBoy
    @BooktownBoy4 жыл бұрын

    Excellent, thank you.

  • @michaellove7912
    @michaellove79124 жыл бұрын

    thank you, one of the best!

  • @eljarrito8181
    @eljarrito81816 жыл бұрын

    A minor inaccuracy: when you disconnect the secondary, the primary impedance goes way up because you have a toroid around the line, adding a series inductor. Better to short the secondary to reflect a short to the primary. The effect will of course be more obvious at the high end.. David W Harris

  • @drsaleem1
    @drsaleem14 жыл бұрын

    Excellent explanation. Physically what is happening is that when there are no reflections the current and voltage waveforms on the through line remain in phase but when there are reflections their phase differ. This coupler is measuring current and voltage wave instantaneous and show any difference in phase as reflection voltage.(in sensing line voltage section Vfwd"=(Vf-Vr)/2N and Vref"= -(Vf-Vr)/2N. No effect on result though!

  • @k1hop
    @k1hop8 жыл бұрын

    Excellent presentation... as always! :) 73 de k1hop

  • @pu2clr
    @pu2clr9 жыл бұрын

    Very didatic. Thanks for this lesson.

  • @NeedleBender785
    @NeedleBender785 Жыл бұрын

    Great video, I am attempting to build this device to be used as a SWR protection device for an AMP. Question that I have is: does the polarity of the windings matter. I noticed that the diagram is a little different then the prototype that you built since both windings were grounded in the middle. Thanks KE8SPI

  • @valterturim7322
    @valterturim73226 жыл бұрын

    73 thank you for very good explanation..

  • @drstrangelove09
    @drstrangelove093 жыл бұрын

    great video, thank you!!! do you have a video on how you built this coupler?

  • @carmelpule6954
    @carmelpule69549 жыл бұрын

    My congratulations on your presentation. Excellent. Would I be correct in saying that since you are sensing both the current and the voltage, and combining them together as you did, there is a relation to the watt meter of yesteryear where two coils were used to combine the current and the voltage hence the power and in this case the voltages are common while the currents (fwd and reflected) are in opposite directions hence the " fwd power and the reflected power are in the opposite direction" Really an electrical miracle to separate the two, as you well describe. May I also congratulate you on your, neatness, your workmanship and also your diction and language , and your handwriting and mathematical layout. You have a very organised mind. I wish I had that equipment as I tend to build all mine and I am not as neat as you are, you certainly taught me many lessons. Prosit.

  • @w2aew

    @w2aew

    9 жыл бұрын

    Carmel Pule' Thank you for the nice comments. I will say that it takes me many hours or preparation, research, setup, experimentation, fiddling, and re-writing of notes to *appear* to be organized!

  • @mjrtude
    @mjrtude3 жыл бұрын

    Great job Alan, can you explain what limits the frequency range of the coupler with respect to the accuracy and now w nanoVNAs it should be fairly easy to demonstrate de K9IC

  • @bangkok4ucom
    @bangkok4ucom7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the knowledge of swr. from E21NZC QRU 73

  • @WarrenPostma
    @WarrenPostma8 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic! So well explained. I usually find people skip steps when they find the math simple, and because I saw all the intermediate steps in your math I could follow along clearly. If a viewer can remember ohm's law, the rest should make sense. Visually the way it works is quite beautiful, the symmetry of the design, and the interesting phase reversal of the two on the scope makes the whole thing clear to me.

  • @rbtx99
    @rbtx998 жыл бұрын

    I'd love to see a video how a Return Loss Bridge works internally.

  • @clytle374
    @clytle374Ай бұрын

    Thanks, I learned something.

  • @homemdosaco2000
    @homemdosaco20003 жыл бұрын

    Great video. What about the diodes' forward voltage drop? That introduces an error, right? Should be negligible in high power applications, but for small signals, wouldn't it completely squash the coupled signal?

  • @uprogc
    @uprogc Жыл бұрын

    Very nice! What is missing is the winding direction of the toroids compared to one turn winding direction. And what is the winding direction of one turn ?

  • @joserodriguez-zp1zx
    @joserodriguez-zp1zx3 жыл бұрын

    Exelente presentacion

  • @whippoorwill1124
    @whippoorwill11244 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always - thanks Alan. Around 11:20, the forward and reflected current samples aren't in phase with the mainline current - they're out of phase with it. (They're in phase with each other of course.)

  • @w2aew

    @w2aew

    4 жыл бұрын

    It's been over four years since I did this video, but I believe I had the phase of windings reversed on that one.

  • @richardphillips2405
    @richardphillips24053 ай бұрын

    I had trouble understanding the reflected voltage part (the seesaw at approximately time 12:30). Thank you for this video.

  • @jonramleth4727
    @jonramleth47277 жыл бұрын

    Lovely presentation that made me subscribe for the first time. Thinking of buying or building a antenna analyser. Have you a presentation of the Math for calculating the impedance and inductance of an antenna. Is it done by comparing vswr for two given known frequencies? Tried to find the priciple used by something cheap as the sark 100. 73 LA6FK

  • @krisjk999
    @krisjk9993 жыл бұрын

    Hi, I have a doubt at 7:45 where you mention about terminating the transmission line only at one end. Does that mean, the field is propagating between the line and the copper ground plate in between the two halves? Another doubt I have is, what is the impact of having a grounded metal sheet (the outer shield of the coax in this case) in between the windings and the core of the transformer? Wouldn't there be eddy current losses in that shield due to the magnetic field coupling?

  • @julesinsler
    @julesinsler3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent

  • @LydellAaron
    @LydellAaron2 жыл бұрын

    Do you think it would be possible to obtain a similar circuit, replacing the transformers with a gyrator? Then measuring voltage across a gyrator load-resistor on the other end?

  • @NahuelGDure
    @NahuelGDure4 жыл бұрын

    Hi. Thank you for the video. What´s the range frecuency that it works? and how can i design the transformer for a range of 50 to 100 Mhz. I need a directional coupler in that range. Can you give some tips?

  • @stevenbennett6123
    @stevenbennett61233 жыл бұрын

    5 years old but still a classic of comprehensive and clear explanation. I would like to construct your directional coupler so may I ask what cores you used for the transformers? Many thanks.

  • @w2aew

    @w2aew

    3 жыл бұрын

    It is modeled after the coupler in this article: www.arrl.org/files/file/Product%20Notes/2012%20Handbook/KAUNE.pdf

  • @0MoTheG
    @0MoTheG7 жыл бұрын

    The key here is that with all values being at the matching point the voltage that is induced on the coupled side is the same in both inductors. That results to zero on the reflection side and whatever you chose on the reference side. To maintain matching even though there are inductors in the line they have to lower and raise the impedance to the same degree as seen from the input port. Seen from the output port the load is not equal to the line.

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