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This video describes how a dual directional coupler that is used in an SWR meter operates. It describes and demonstrates how voltages are developed that are directly proportional to the forward and reflected signals on a transmission line. The coupler shown is a common designed used by ham radio homebrewers in their SWR meter designs. It is widely published, and can be found in several issues of the ARRL Handbook.
Basics of Directional Couplers:
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This is a really superb explanation. The operation of the directional coupler is hard to decipher, and you made it easy. Thank you!!!
That's an excellent clear description of how these circuits work. I always had trouble getting my mind around how it 'knew' which part of the signal was forward and which was reflected and why. Thanks!
This is probably the best explanation that I have ever seen for the workings of a VSWR meter. Well done once again!
Thanks Alan. As always, clear theoretical explanation added with a pratical demonstration !
Absolutely perfect timing, voice, drawings, logic, testing etc. Thank you.
Well explained, you have the perfect voice for lecturing and very professionally done.Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us! 73 Billy EI9KB ,
Very instructive to see the forward voltage port remain unchanged, while seeing the total voltage trace respond dramatically as the changing termination impedance changes! Having only seen the changing "total" voltage displayed on a scope before, it was enlightening to see the separated "forward" and "reverse" voltage simultaneously displayed. Nice job making the math entertaining! AB3SX
A wonderfully clear presentation on directional couplers. I’ve long wondered how such devices, which heretofore seemed almost magical, work. Thanks to your efforts I think I now understand the basic idea. Thanks much! -Jim
Thanks for this. I am mainly a digital guy, but am trying to get my head around RF things a bit more. This sort of guide with practical demonstrations is really helpful.
Excellent demonstration, as always. Thank you!
Have only just discovered your channel... I've been a radio amateur since 1972, this is the first time I've properly understood what's going on in the VSWR meters we all use - thanks Alan :o)
Thanks for the explanation about couplers. The best I have ever seen!
Clarity, brevity, inspiring. Alan, you remain Top Dog in the sharing and 'you can do it too' school of such topics. Thank you for making your channel and contents! I'm off to build your simple Schmitt Trigger TDR to a) measure my 1/4 wave transformers and b) to remind/convince myself that voltages actually DO bounce off impedance mismatches and reflect! I'll have a go at making this coupler, embedded into a QRP AMU that I have plans for....
What a masterful explanation! Great video.
Very clear explanation. Thanks for the demo. I really appreciate your channel.
Thanks again Alan, I watched this and your Basics of Directional Couplers and am finally getting a handle on all of this... I built a return loss bridge and now get the difference between it and a DC. Might round out your series nicely to do a session on RLBs. 73, Len
Thanks Alan. Excellent lecture with practical demonstration.
Alan, I wish just some of my lecturers at Electronic Engineering school were half as good as you at explaining things. Good job. 73, EA5IGC
Although I thought this was going to be another construction video, you did a great job at explaining what was happening and how it effects other values. Thanks for a great video. Moe K2JDM
I really like your videos Alan, they are all very pedagogical. I have learnt a lot from you! Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!
Great Video, and a VERY good explanation for directional couplers!
Thanks Alan. Very clear explanation of something i couldn't get my head around. 73's PA3DSB
This video is really well done! Thanks a lot...this has always puzzled me, but you made it perfectly clear.
Good explanation and presentation. The nuances are the core material (permeability) and the number of turns on the core.
Thank you. Excellent presentation as always. Really appreciated.
Very Simple and clear explanation,perfect....Thanks
Thanks! Excellent explanation and demonstration, very educative.
This is such a great explication. Thank you so much - you are one in a million!
Excellent presentation Alan - in all respects! Chris VK3CJK
Excellent presentation, as always, thank you.
Superb explanation - Many thanks!
Wow took me 30 years to understand that circuit. I tried to build it as a boy but I couldn't figure out how it would work. Now I know :-)
Your videos are like a knowledge milestone for me. First time, I understand very little, but at a later moment in time I come back and watch again, to see how much I understand. When I can basically recite from my mind, I know I reached that milestone. Thank you Alan, your way of teaching is absolutely top notch I have a hard time to understand why you used the coaxial line and not just a bare conductor. Is is that you want to stop electrical field to pass to the toroids, and retaining only magnetic field? If so, I was not aware it is possible to sample magnetic field like that. If I understand correctly, it would not have worked if you connected the braid of the coax in both sides
Thanks!! Great explanation and easy to understand. Thank you very much
Thanks a lot for the explanation including the theoretical derivation, Excellent.
I've always enjoyed your videos and found this one most informative, keep up the good work. AG5AJ George M Poteet Sr.
Great video for the principles and experiment of SWR. Perfact !!
Thanks, just what I needed to grasp that topic!
It really is RF magic. That definitely proves Alan is a magician.
Great tutorial as always!
Very cool. I've always wanted to inderstand this. Thanks for the great explanation.
Awesome as always!
Thanks Alan,very helpful tutorial!
This is delightful. Thank you.
Thanks a lot for these explanations, great job !
Thank you so much! I've wondered for a while what the theory behind coupling a signal one-way was.
Wow that was a great video! Thanks for making this
Thank you. This video and the one about IQ modulation have proved really useful to me. 73 from OZ7JBH.
You re a good teacher.
Thanks Allen a great tutorial
Thanks, very clear explanation and demonstration
Built one today and tested for a home brew radio, although not as pretty it gets the job done!
Good job, as usual! Thanks for leaving stripline couplers for me ;)
@w2aew
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm looking forward to your treatment of coupled transmission line couplers, and circulatory, and all of the other microwave magic bits.
@HansVanIngelgom
8 жыл бұрын
+KF5OBS I'd love to see you make a video about that subject. I just built a stripline coupler for testing purposes, and although it works great for a first prototype, I'd love to get some more insight in how it works exactly.
That's the best explanation ever!
very high quality explanation, thx
Thanks a lot for this excellent explanation
Excellent video.
great explanation, thanks
thanks for uploading this vid..
Fantastic ! The math really helps in understanding this.
Great video! Thank you!
I watched this before, and it's wonderful! Coming back to it again, I do have a question about the math: In the first diagram and equations for how it works, it uses -Vr in the current equation, but Vr in the Ir equation [ Ir = -Vr / Z0 ] and in the line current equation [ I = (Vf - Vr) / Z0 ]. This creates an inconsistency, because if I take the line equation [ I = (Vf - Vr) / Z0 ], I should be able to derive V from that. I * Z0 should equal V, and from that last equation, that yields V = Vf - Vr, whereas the first equation says V = Vf + Vr.
As always you are great... Thank you..
Thank you, Alan.
Great clip, thanks.
Brilliant tutorial
thanks Alen. it helps a lot
Nice video. Thanks for sharing
Nicely done.
Thank you very much this gold inform.
You've peeled back a layer of the onion for me. For some reason I had assumed that directional couplers used wave guides, which I've never had time to try and understand. This makes perfect sense. Also, this would be fun to model in a spice program.
@w2aew
9 жыл бұрын
Some do. Some use coupled transmission lines. There are a lot of ways that directional couplers can be built.
Nice explanation. The missing bits are how to determine the core material and cross sectional area of the core, which I assume have to do with the frequency and power level of the main line signal.
Thank you for sharing.
Excellent, thank you.
thank you, one of the best!
A minor inaccuracy: when you disconnect the secondary, the primary impedance goes way up because you have a toroid around the line, adding a series inductor. Better to short the secondary to reflect a short to the primary. The effect will of course be more obvious at the high end.. David W Harris
Excellent explanation. Physically what is happening is that when there are no reflections the current and voltage waveforms on the through line remain in phase but when there are reflections their phase differ. This coupler is measuring current and voltage wave instantaneous and show any difference in phase as reflection voltage.(in sensing line voltage section Vfwd"=(Vf-Vr)/2N and Vref"= -(Vf-Vr)/2N. No effect on result though!
Excellent presentation... as always! :) 73 de k1hop
Very didatic. Thanks for this lesson.
Great video, I am attempting to build this device to be used as a SWR protection device for an AMP. Question that I have is: does the polarity of the windings matter. I noticed that the diagram is a little different then the prototype that you built since both windings were grounded in the middle. Thanks KE8SPI
73 thank you for very good explanation..
great video, thank you!!! do you have a video on how you built this coupler?
My congratulations on your presentation. Excellent. Would I be correct in saying that since you are sensing both the current and the voltage, and combining them together as you did, there is a relation to the watt meter of yesteryear where two coils were used to combine the current and the voltage hence the power and in this case the voltages are common while the currents (fwd and reflected) are in opposite directions hence the " fwd power and the reflected power are in the opposite direction" Really an electrical miracle to separate the two, as you well describe. May I also congratulate you on your, neatness, your workmanship and also your diction and language , and your handwriting and mathematical layout. You have a very organised mind. I wish I had that equipment as I tend to build all mine and I am not as neat as you are, you certainly taught me many lessons. Prosit.
@w2aew
9 жыл бұрын
Carmel Pule' Thank you for the nice comments. I will say that it takes me many hours or preparation, research, setup, experimentation, fiddling, and re-writing of notes to *appear* to be organized!
Great job Alan, can you explain what limits the frequency range of the coupler with respect to the accuracy and now w nanoVNAs it should be fairly easy to demonstrate de K9IC
Thank you for the knowledge of swr. from E21NZC QRU 73
Fantastic! So well explained. I usually find people skip steps when they find the math simple, and because I saw all the intermediate steps in your math I could follow along clearly. If a viewer can remember ohm's law, the rest should make sense. Visually the way it works is quite beautiful, the symmetry of the design, and the interesting phase reversal of the two on the scope makes the whole thing clear to me.
I'd love to see a video how a Return Loss Bridge works internally.
Thanks, I learned something.
Great video. What about the diodes' forward voltage drop? That introduces an error, right? Should be negligible in high power applications, but for small signals, wouldn't it completely squash the coupled signal?
Very nice! What is missing is the winding direction of the toroids compared to one turn winding direction. And what is the winding direction of one turn ?
Exelente presentacion
Great video as always - thanks Alan. Around 11:20, the forward and reflected current samples aren't in phase with the mainline current - they're out of phase with it. (They're in phase with each other of course.)
@w2aew
4 жыл бұрын
It's been over four years since I did this video, but I believe I had the phase of windings reversed on that one.
I had trouble understanding the reflected voltage part (the seesaw at approximately time 12:30). Thank you for this video.
Lovely presentation that made me subscribe for the first time. Thinking of buying or building a antenna analyser. Have you a presentation of the Math for calculating the impedance and inductance of an antenna. Is it done by comparing vswr for two given known frequencies? Tried to find the priciple used by something cheap as the sark 100. 73 LA6FK
Hi, I have a doubt at 7:45 where you mention about terminating the transmission line only at one end. Does that mean, the field is propagating between the line and the copper ground plate in between the two halves? Another doubt I have is, what is the impact of having a grounded metal sheet (the outer shield of the coax in this case) in between the windings and the core of the transformer? Wouldn't there be eddy current losses in that shield due to the magnetic field coupling?
Excellent
Do you think it would be possible to obtain a similar circuit, replacing the transformers with a gyrator? Then measuring voltage across a gyrator load-resistor on the other end?
Hi. Thank you for the video. What´s the range frecuency that it works? and how can i design the transformer for a range of 50 to 100 Mhz. I need a directional coupler in that range. Can you give some tips?
5 years old but still a classic of comprehensive and clear explanation. I would like to construct your directional coupler so may I ask what cores you used for the transformers? Many thanks.
@w2aew
3 жыл бұрын
It is modeled after the coupler in this article: www.arrl.org/files/file/Product%20Notes/2012%20Handbook/KAUNE.pdf
The key here is that with all values being at the matching point the voltage that is induced on the coupled side is the same in both inductors. That results to zero on the reflection side and whatever you chose on the reference side. To maintain matching even though there are inductors in the line they have to lower and raise the impedance to the same degree as seen from the input port. Seen from the output port the load is not equal to the line.