Im a boomer, and students paid attention in class, or they got paddled by the teacher or the principal and then again when they got home by the parents. There was no flaking off in the classroom.

@susanmorgan5591

10 күн бұрын

Yeah, no. My mom taught elementary school. I was a student at that school. There was misbehavior there, and there was misbehavior in HS as well. If you didn’t care about school, your behavior was likely bad. Some parents were strict, but others did not care, or were ineffectual. But, if you wanted your education, it was there. Many teachers were good at teaching. I do think more parents expected good behavior from their kids than now. Now, I think, many parents expect schools to raise their kids.

@sr2291

8 күн бұрын

Boys not girls.

School, especially in America, is about passing by getting good marks, not learning. You are taught how to be a worker at school by doing assigned tasks, not how to be a thinker.

@TheDrloboski

6 жыл бұрын

Your post is so on the money..........

@InMooseWeTrust

6 жыл бұрын

School is the same way everywhere

@cosodesign8953

6 жыл бұрын

If you think it’s bad here you should check out the Korean schooling system. It’s insane. Luckily I was able to take AP and gifted classes that pushed us to think critically and write essays rather than just take multiple choice tests. I remember hating having to write those essays. I was super jealous of the multiple choice kids. But as an adult I feel sorry for them because they weren’t pushed to think for themselves. They were taught to consume and regurgitate info rather than formulate ideas in a creative and logical way.

@MyWatchIsEnded

6 жыл бұрын

As much as I agree with this logic I have one criticism. The common core "method", if you can even call it a method, is government overreach into the education process at an unprecedented level and almost equates to communist China and Soviet era education systems. The method described by this common core system have been proven to cause disinterest in learning the material, confusion of the purpose to the dozens of additional steps to solve basic math problems (let alone complex and long college grade math), and the disinterest of the common core agency to be held to public voting accountability to the schools and the parents of the students. The entire education system is abusing common core to transform schools into wheat grinding mills with children's grades as the product and their actual knowledge being an after thought. As long as they get their government checks for every student head.

@Thistledove

6 жыл бұрын

Not true.

I’m 73 and a boomer. I think I received a good education here in NC. In the early years our classes were full but we were expected to behave ourselves and were punished if not. My childhood was great. We were not rich but we’re working class and had what we needed and my family took vacations and enjoyed weekly trips to a nice restaurants. There were no fast food places then. I believe that social media has ruined the lives of our children now. We sure got along just fine without it. Although I didn’t receive a college education I have had a Good life. MY husband and I have been blessed and worked for everything we have. I am glad we were born in this generation and hope that America can come back to its original glory.

@josephschuster1494

7 күн бұрын

I agree with much of what you said. I’m also 73, and I always said to my Mom how LUCKY we were to have been able to grow up in a golden era of life, riding our bicycles, playing ball, and just “hanging out” during Summer vacation. I received an excellent Catholic grade school education, which laid the solid foundation for my high school/college education. I am a hospital pharmacist, forever grateful for all I’ve been blessed. 😅

I’m 77, a 1st year baby boomer. I don’t remember our classes being so overcrowded, about 30 to 35. But my entering high school class was double size the year before. As for the quality of our education, I thought it was just ho-hum. We had very little influence on science, just an occasional day or two a month, and the teachers were not that educated in that field. When I began my college education at 39 years old, I discovered how much I had not learned in my younger years. Sure, there were a few very bright kids who were going to have amazing technical careers, but they were the exception. I bought my first home at 22 years old with $3000 down. The most outstanding part of being of this generation was watching the advent of rock ‘n’ roll. Elvis Presley, Chuck Berry, the Beatles, right from the beginning, and it was fabulous. I still think we had the best music of any generation. But we lost a lot of our boys to the Vietnam war. The boys I knew from grade school went to war, and some within days, never came back. Every generation has the advantages and disadvantages. Nevertheless, I enjoyed growing up in the 50s and 60s.

@user-lx5zg5vv2z

16 күн бұрын

I can't imagine where you grew up. My experience with school was very different and we had 30 + kids in each class too

@augiespicer1270

16 күн бұрын

I'm 77yrs. Wow, I grew up I'm Chicago. 30 in kindergarten, 40 in 1st & 2nd grade, moved to parochial school, 40-60 in a class, not enough nuns, so lay teachers. With more kids entering each year. Moved to Wisconsin village, bussed to next town, 40+ every class, added mobile trailers til school added on too original building.

@karenwaddell9396

12 күн бұрын

I disagree. Yes, our classes were large. They still are around 30 in a class. My schools in the 50s and 60s taught science, poetry, music, literature, foreign language, mathematics etc etc. Today no music or art. We need children whose parents let teachers teach. We had no kindergarten. We watched the moon landing. We learned and behaved in classes. Those needs, more buildings and teachers are still needed.

@susanmorgan5591

11 күн бұрын

I did not have a ton of science until Jr, High, but definitely took science as a grad requirement. I chose Biology in my Junior year, I think. I was never interested in math and chemistry, so opted out of higher math and chem. I did learn a lot in my Lit classes, where I believe I learned how to do critical thinking, and in my history and government classes. I am shocked at how ignorant some younger folks seem to be about both. My school district was in a lower middle class area; we were not an affluent area.

@connieerb8260

9 күн бұрын

I am 77 also and agree!

I'm a boomer, I didn't go through this in the school system. Trust me teachers in schools where I lived were in control. They were the best teachers and I looked up to them!

@Smith.S.sStocHasticSs

Жыл бұрын

My parents are boomers and this sounds like it might be why they don't get it. They think it's me making excuses and not being responsible etc etc. Really tho if they cared about me they would've listened and paid closer attention and been supportive, and HELPFUL, not dismissive . I'm wondering if there was something given to mothers in the 50s that damaged their brains and made them all sociopathic af. Zero empathy. Like @eminem 's mom is like my mom. I don't mean 2b rude I'm just tryna understand. It seems that life was so much easier for them so they expect us to do what they did and have no clue why we just won't. So they wipe their hands of it all and say we're adults now so we're not their responsibility 🤔 🙄 😰😨🥺

@jackspring7709

Жыл бұрын

​@@Smith.S.sStocHasticSs My parents' generation were boomers, too: They'd have their friends, neighbours, colleagues around etc - and, with the exception of very few, they were all jackasses - even when I was a child I used to look at them all and think "Am I going to be like these people when I'm their age?". The biggest Ah*le generation that ever infected the planet

@karendalsadik7119

Жыл бұрын

@@Smith.S.sStocHasticSs I was born in the sixties but my school in Texas was not like that. I learned very little until I could escape discrimination. Being biracial meant getting beat and harassed on a daily basis. My school had no library, no gym, no play ground or cafeteria. My mom was an undiagnosed autistic. She had no empathy and saw no need for me to learn to take care of myself. I tried to rectify that for my daughter. She went to the best school I could manage. She started gifted and talented classes in third grade. I never said I washed my hands of her but I said she needed to be able to be independent and care for herself. When she was almost 14 I fell in love and she wasn’t having it. I waited a year to help her. Unfortunately my ex boy friend and mother teamed up to get her to reject and hate me. She left home at 16 to stay with my ex and finish in her high school. He said he wanted guardianship. I didn’t like it but relented and made arrangements. He never showed up to accept the responsibility. I attended my daughter’s high school graduation but was cut out. I would visit her at her college campus and she agreed I could take my place as parent and take her to dinner. My mother and I were estranged. My daughter called back and asked if Grandma could be included. If I had known what was going to happen next I wouldn’t have refused. My daughter uninvited me and told me she never wanted to see again. That was in 2013. I saw her last year at my mother funeral. My sister maintains pressure so my daughter will still keep the loyalty pact. I love my daughter and the door is always open. She graduated with a dual degree in Bio medical Sciences, Chemistry and a math minor. I helped her with her homework when she was young. I was forever cut out of my daughters life. I know my mother was a sociopath. May she rot in her Karma. She took everything away that I achieved. Thanks for listening. I hope your mom doesn’t mean to be that cold. I know it’s harder on the youth than even when I was a youth. My parents had opportunities I never did. I am 61 and a widow. I want to help the youth and as a provider pass my knowledge on. I’m blocked at every turn. Good luck to you. Be strong and know that you have s contribution to make. You can do it!

@cindyeisenberg3273

Жыл бұрын

@@karendalsadik7119 I feel you. I never had kids because of my schizoaffective disorder and opportunities were lacking for me. Also, people don’t always understand things that I do because of my cognitive issues that come with my disorder. This makes my confidence low. Because, I always feel like a failure and less than my neurotypical peers who don’t have my problems.

@karendalsadik7119

Жыл бұрын

@@cindyeisenberg3273 I respect your decision to have or not to have children. However, it is so unfortunate that you’ve been given the message you don’t have any role to improve society. Some of my best teachers are not faculty but people who are diagnosed with a so called mental illness and are a part of the peer support or the old madness revolution.

The narrator mentioned about doing away with Latin. I took two years of Latin in HS. When I went into the military, I was a linguist. Latin helped me get through language school and learn other languages as well. Latin also helped me better understand English grammar. We had a greater shortage of linguists than engineers and physicists. I am now a retired Navy Chief after a rewarding career as a Navy linguist.

@yankee2666

Жыл бұрын

There's a great little paperback novel, a la Rockwell, called Jordy, Bounce, and Lilli, that captures the flavor of the post- WWII era through the lives of two small children and their cat. I know it's available on Amazon. I just finished my copy… loved it.

@MrLeedebt

Жыл бұрын

Apparently, in Shakespeare's time, all that was taught in school was Latin. Nothing else.

@augiespicer1270

16 күн бұрын

I took 4 yrs Latin in high school, flunked it year 1 because teacher wanted us to speak it, moved out of State, took it 3 more years-aced it every year, just Grammer & translation. Also French grade 7, 1960-JFK initiative. Agreed helps with English, grammar and Medical terminology.

@marthasimons7940

11 күн бұрын

6 years of Latin . I started Latin class in the 7th grade. Our teachers made it a lot of fun. In our public Elementary school in 1969 I started French in 4th grade. Others studied Spanish. Our High school offered Latin , French, Spanish German, Russian , Chinese and Japanese. I basically taught myself Spanish because of the Latin. I went to an excellent public school but 10 miles down the road, the schools were crumbling and without supplies. I used to get the old books from my school and bring them there. Why the discrepancy in education? Schools were paid by property taxes and kept in the districts where they were raised. It was the Yankee iteration of separate but (un) equal. This was changed by voter referendum in the Mid-70s by bringing in gambling and a state income tax. Never really solved the problem, though the disparity is less extreme.

I was a student in Jr. High in Brooklyn, NY and in a special program called the SPE classes. We were culled by testing and their were very few of us, about 30 per grade in each borough. It was heavy on the math and science but we did take the other required subjects, English, PE and Orchestra. I played the violin. I even got to play in the all schools orchestra. We played Tchaikovsky's First Piano Concerto in concert that year, 1963. I never finished the program. Problems in our home interfered with my studies. There were 9 of us living in three rooms. My Father had been institutionalized for mental issues and being the oldest child I had to assume responsibilities that made it difficult for me to continue in the program. I had to be out early to take the bus or subway to school. In 1964 we moved to South Florida. The educational options were very limited and I ended up in classes below my abilities. I dropped out at 16. I did well in spite of all the mess. I had a good job with Ma Bell, spent four years in the Navy and after a layoff after Ma Bell was broken up I ran a small business for 30 plus years until retirement. My wife and I just celebrated our 50th anniversary. Our son graduated with two civil engineering degrees magna cum laude and is well placed and in a good marriage. I have two very nice grandchildren. I would love to have finished the course of study but it wasn't to be. It even came with a college scholarship. No regrets. I've done well without it. I don't speculate about where I'd have gone with it. I am happy with where I am.

Born in 1946. My school experience was nothing like this portrayal. Our classes were large-almost 30 elementary students sometimes-but I can’t recall shift classes except in one local school district which refused to pass a tax increase. I graduated HS in a class of around 600. My sister’s graduating class of the following year war around 800. So there were increasing numbers for a few years. I do remember very crowded halls, with difficulties getting to lunch in HS. I often had only 15 minutes to eat because of extremely crowded halls making progress really slow. Classes were large, yes. And there was much talk about a teacher shortage, and how underpaid they were. But overall, I feel I got a pretty good education.

If America's so smart, how did we get so dumb?

@soupful

5 жыл бұрын

Internal corruption by traitors and redesign of the Educational system to deliberately dumb down students.

@thomaspayne6866

5 жыл бұрын

Diet. Inflammation of the brain.

@alldud13

5 жыл бұрын

we started making everything free

@cornwrangler7259

5 жыл бұрын

because the internet gives stupid people a voice

@lemonke8132

5 жыл бұрын

Linda Casey what does that even mean

I was a baby boomer, and I spent more than two hours a day in kindergarten--in 1952-53! By the time The Sputnik Moment came along, I was attending elementary school at a U.S. air base and I took my lunch to school--I'd never had a class day limited to two hours, either at the air base or on home leave in Missouri. Where on earth were school classes limited to two hours a day?

@tdlkorbt100henry

4 жыл бұрын

Ok Boomer

@JOHN----DOE

8 ай бұрын

Wow. Talk about a mindless reply. @@tdlkorbt100henry

@bonniegaither3994

17 күн бұрын

I’ve never heard of that either.

@EllenAppelbaum

12 күн бұрын

I went to kindergarten in the afternoon shift. It must have been 3 hours (seemed like a full day to me).

@katiemoyer8679

12 күн бұрын

⁠kindergarten was from 9 am till 11:30. Another section of kids did afternoon 12:30 till 3 p.m. shift. 40 + kids a class was typical.

I am a boomer and from the poorest province in Canada and I did not go through this at school. Teachers would have 50 pupils and no one was negelected. We had to respect our teachers. Parents believed the teachers.

I’m 69 and I received an excellent education in Catholic School. When I transferred to public for high school I was ahead of my classmates.

@5DNRG

16 күн бұрын

Same here, but finished high school in a private boarding school in Toronto where the education standards far exceed the US Catholic schools I attended. It was a great experience and eye opening re education standards between the two countries.

@Lisabug2659

16 күн бұрын

Same here. Had to go to Latin mass 6 days a week and the most strict nuns EVER! I didn’t want to go to Catholic HS, went to public school. No more uniforms! I was so far ahead I graduated Jr. year.

@jimfesta8981

13 күн бұрын

The parochial and private schools were always superior to the public schools.

@glennclarke9442

4 күн бұрын

I got a great education in my Catholic high school too! U.C.L.A. Bound!

I grew up a latch key kid. My father was dead and my mother worked a second shift factory job. She was asleep in the morning as I went off to school and at work at night when I got home, fed myself and put myself to bed. Her mentoring consisted of the phrase, 'Don't bring trouble home'. The values that I grew up with were not my Mothers values but those I was taught at school.

@JoeKaye-hn5dt

6 жыл бұрын

I can remember being left home alone at age 4. Sometimes for an hour, maybe two. "Don't touch the stove." That's all she'd say.

@thoth1999

5 жыл бұрын

Just what system wanted.

@karendalsadik7119

Жыл бұрын

Almost seems created that way except for your father dying. My condolences it must have been difficult.

Education is sorely undervalued in America. We need to fund our schools and pay our teachers like our lives depend on them...because ultimately, they do.

As a child, I remember my uncle, my mom, my dad, my sister and me lying on the ground to watch the Sputnik satellite go by. It was exciting. My dad had a 5th grade education; my mom finished the 9th grade. I disliked school, until I learned to read. My sister loved school. I took the shop courses, as most boys; however, a new elective popped up in HS: Graphic Arts. I went to college and majored in Graphic Arts. I became certified years later as a Master Craftsman in that field. Years later, I returned to college and majored in Criminal Justice and entered that field. At almost 40, I returned to college as an Anthropology major. Now, I am retired, having had a career as a Graphic Artist; a career as a Criminal & Forensic Investigator; an Educator in Cultural Anthropology and Archaeology; and an Educator in grades 2 thru 12 and also Freshman thru Senior college, teaching both social & physical sciences. My wife is a retired Historian, Educator, and professional Artist; having graduated college in Art, Art History and Museum Education. My sister studied dance & music in college. She retired as a Concert Violinist, a Music Educator, and owns several dance studios. Her son is a professional artist. My four daughters are 1. A doctor teaching at a medical school, 2. A retired veteran of both the Army & Air Force and is a professional speaker, 3. An expert in Retail Science who contracts with various industries as a problem-solver & motivational speaker; and daughter #4, is currently in college. We all continue to learn new things. Education is a never-ending process, even in retirement! Open your mind, read everything; the learning processes and challenges are endless...Sputnik, or no Sputnik!!

One thing we boomers experienced was having to meet the high academic standards for admission to college like the SAT and ACT and a good GPA. Today these exams are being done away with along with lowered GPA requirements. Changing demographics, lowering standards.

Glad to be a baby boomer in Canada. We experienced smaller classrooms. We learned reading, arithmetic, and science and social studies, etc.

I agree with Kathy Brinkman for the most part. I was born in 1951 also. My circumstances were not as fortunate as Kathys. I went to a large suburban Catholic school starting in 1958, 1st grade. We had 50 to 60 kids to a classroom from grades one through 12 (class of 70'). The teachers did not have time for individual students like myself. As a result I never caught up with schoolwork in those 12 years no matter how hard I tried. This video opened my eyes as to these reasons. Schools simply did not have the manpower to test or give special assistance to the slow students. So I was simply a victom of circumstances. Now I see that I must just accept this as water under the bridge. I believe I have overcome a lot of that and will continue to do so, but I have still only gotten by in life despite my best efforts. I will continue to strive to do the best I am able to do.

@JoeKaye-hn5dt

6 жыл бұрын

Same time period here. In those days, Catholic schools depended on homework. In public school I almost never had homework to do until 9th grade. But most teachers seemed to take the time to address each kid's needs. The Catholic school kids, on the other hand, always had homework. I think their philosophy depended on the household enforcing discipline - kind of a Catholic thing.

@hydrolito

3 жыл бұрын

Parents or older brothers or sisters should have helped you. Did mother or father go to parent teacher meetings to discuss any problem?

@salvationbordercountry3800

3 жыл бұрын

@@hydrolito I never heard of parent/teacher meetings except on TV later in life. I don't think my Catholic schools Had parent-teacher meetings (1958-1970). Both my parents worked full time. I am the oldest sibling of four. I never thought about the parent-teacher thing. It will be added to my letter to the Diocese of Cleveland Education Ministry letter. They had no guidance counselors either. A mind IS a terrible thing to waste. Mine was wasted for sure. Oh well. It's 50 years ago. I think I'll start that long contemplated letter tonight. It will just put forth One question to them: Do you still ignore the kids at the bottom? Hey thanks a lot for the reply and the interest. -Kevin F. gaelicroc@yahoo.com

@karendalsadik7119

Жыл бұрын

Wow amazing the only way I got a decent education in late 60s and early 70s was by going to Catholic schools.

During these years, and up through the 70s public schools offered many technical programs which reinforced the science classes AND vocational/career programs. But since they cost more and were seen as part of the industrial past, they were dismantled. The new fad was that ALL students were college bound whether they were going to college or not. Today science programs continue their chalk-talk format with a little lab thrown in now and again. The students who do not go on to college have no job skills, those who do not finish college have no job skill, and many who do finish college have massive debts, but a degree which does not lead to a good job. What a scam, and all because we Americans have bought into the myth that ALL will get a degree will have a high paying job waiting for them.

@bumpriderolling9158

6 жыл бұрын

All kids are pushed towards colleges now, and even if they are not at college level after graduating high school. Twenty year young men and women are seeing that a college degree often means debt and no job.

@TerryReedMiss

6 жыл бұрын

TRUE!!! And the Gen X and YMs are buying into (literally) the same myth that we are a democracy, a republic! HA! The truth today, however, is that the United States is neither a democracy nor a republic. Americans are ruled by a corporatocracy: a partnership of “too-big-to-fail” corporations, the extremely wealthy elite, and corporate-collaborator government officials. When the young peple figure this out, maybe like us ... when they are in the 50s and 60's ... it may just be FAR too late! China is the sleeping dragon and it is waking up!

@babaregi5934

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen, it really does appear that there are some very powerful, often unseen players around that are negatively influencing the lives of more and more people (including ourselves) ; don't you think? I believe that our best bet is to work together to handle these challenges. These conversations can help us become smarter, individually, and as a race; so that we will be capable of meeting our challenges.

@lordblazer

6 жыл бұрын

wrong. The debt came from the budget cuts on the entire educational system. I think you used slight of hand to hide the massive broken social contract that now leads kids into being super poor or take on massive debt for a shot at a career.

@dmitriedenichkin3006

Жыл бұрын

Haha not just Americans

I'm 66 yrs. old and wish to say my experience in education was depressing. I felt like I was in a holding tank and didn't really learn anything until I went to college. College was a disappointment too because they couldn't keep up with the changes in technology in the world. The only thing I can say is that our educational system is a complete failure because of the incompetence of the people who designed and ran it.

@samanthamichelle2094

5 жыл бұрын

Same. And I'm 25

@juliehindsmott1128

5 жыл бұрын

My experience was much better, and I was a math major who became a teacher. However, l left teaching after 20 years because I could no longer stand to watch them keep watering down our curriculum year after year. I kept thinking how they couldn't have been doing a better job of destroying our schools if they had been doing it on purpose. To my surprise, I eventually discovered from Charlotte Thompson Iserbyt that they were indeed Dumbing Down America quite intentionally! She has videos here on KZread if you're interested in more information.

@condescendingblkgrl7559

5 жыл бұрын

38 and agree...it only went downhill and look at it now lmao.

@wholeNwon

5 жыл бұрын

I'm a "boomer" who began his educational journey in a wooden schoolhouse where we were taught by very experienced "older" women who loved children. I attended a private prep. school where each student took an admission placement examination. My public school background placed me in the top 5%. Then it was on to a state university where the quality of instruction was excellent and the courses rigorous. Then on to professional school where the national entrance exam placed me in the top 0.1%. That got me a choice of schools and scholarships. I've since taught hundreds of "post-docs", published and otherwise contributed. Bottom line: No complaints here!

@sherrillperez9796

5 жыл бұрын

same here!! Sounds like my experience.

And now, we have college graduates who can't read. The schools in especially the late Fifties were so much better than they are today that it's ridiculous.

@sylvisterling8782

13 күн бұрын

Really? You wouldn't know it from films like "Blackboard Jungle" or published articles such as "Why Johnny Can't Read" The overcrowding in schools resulted in a "cattle car" approach. Kids were expected to "sit down, shut up and behave!" as we were shuttled through our schooling years. Students were graduated from high school exactly the same way toothpaste is extracted from a tube. PRESSURE! Not pressure to excel, but pressure to just get THROUGH with almost no attention paid to quality of education.

@hollybean790

10 күн бұрын

⁠@@sylvisterling8782were you there? I was, and kids just knew how to behave. I also taught school for many many years, and behavior and interest in school activities just dropped throughout the years. Things weren’t perfect then, but in many areas, they haven’t improved and have gotten worse. I think I was happy enough when I went to school, but I had a good home life and a good (though not good beyond the norm) school.

@theresaheyer537

8 күн бұрын

let alone spell english.

Born 1955. I had a wonderful life! North Kansas City Missouri. Parents bought a new house in Gracemoor! Before that, Baxter Springs Kansas. Walked all over town. Library, city pool. Great television, safer surroundings. Good Old Days!

@mcsoto

6 жыл бұрын

krazo hills Born 1989, millennial lol.. good for you, my baby boomer parents did not had it too easy but they still talk about it beautifully, they often mention how hard working and genuine their generation was and how much they miss almost everything from back then. they’re from the Dominican Republic 🇩🇴 greetings from here.

@jaynawilliams6060

5 жыл бұрын

I was in South Kansas City in those days.

@katiekane5247

5 жыл бұрын

That "gr8 television" was entirely propaganda & created to conscript us to the policies then & yet to come. Just watched some "Bewitched" reruns. You could smoke on TV but not show a pregnant belly. Trained female's to be subservient & aim for no more than a clean house & happy husband. What a pile of shit!

@kassantos7514

5 жыл бұрын

@@mcsoto yo tambien

@icefkncold

5 жыл бұрын

a wholesome comment

It's so mind boggling that there was a time in the US when the Government _actually_ truly cared about the Children & the Children's Education.. it's mind blowing. That should become a thing again.

@BuyTheDip627

5 жыл бұрын

Mary Light stealing money from others to pay for your education is not the role of government.

@tdlkorbt100henry

4 жыл бұрын

Lol if it went back to that way the fat pigs wouldn't be able to swim in pools of money anymore!

@ericmarmal9849

4 жыл бұрын

@@BuyTheDip627 Is bettering the nation (including its youth, aka its future) not what taxes are for?

@lilydinh6059

2 жыл бұрын

No no. Where are the mothers to teach these kids. One teacher cannot care for 60 kids.

@flossie9987

2 жыл бұрын

Now politicians use children as leverage

These days the public school system is too focused on getting every student passing and moving to college. Teaching useless skills like dissection and not preparing them with how to do taxes or correctly buying a house, the importance of saving saving money and building credit. They fill their heads saying that they can do whatever they want in life but never exclaim that the college systems today keep pushing for degrees in dying careers or degrees that get you nowhere. Today almost everybody has a degree but slaving their lives to repay those loans for their dream job they don’t have yet. The problem with today’s school system is that they don’t stress the importance and need in the country that millions of open skilled trade positions are ignored. No child left behind keeps intellectual students from excelling ahead of their class and forcing them to learn at the same pace of students having a tougher time. There are so many colleges today that it may be difficult for any student to choose, while there is a constant need for doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc., the college system isn’t concerned about where you want to go, they’re only concerned about how much money they’re going to make out of you. And when you’re paying $40,000-$80,000 and more, not too mention that tuition rises every year like they don’t charge enough as it is, you have better done your research in the projected growth of that career and really look at how many people are going for the same thing. Criminal Justice was huge just a couple of years ago and a lot of people payed good money for it only too realize that the degree in itself isn’t really useful especially when millions have the same degree but no extra concentrations or certs to really stand out. Now what? Most of them have families to support and don’t have extra time to do even more schooling not to mention that they already sunk tens of thousands of dollars into something that just became completely useless and now are in debt for the rest of their lives. This is the problem in today’s education system.

@ameliar6374

5 жыл бұрын

Z Monster ok im a high school student right now. Got any advice so this doesnt happen to me?

@roberttreasure1986

5 жыл бұрын

@@ameliar6374 Never take Biology. Then you will never learn a "useless skill like dissection". If you get a Criminal Justice degree, plan on being a Police Officer. lol, but seriously, Amelia, go to the Dept of Labor Statistics website, and look at their projections for future job growth. Pick a career that is growing. Try to find something that takes a little hardship or brain power to get a degree in, so you eliminate a good amount of competition right there.

@ameliar6374

5 жыл бұрын

Robert Treasure i actually have done that but at the same time I’m almost most definitely going to follow a career path in the arts, but at the same time want a plan B

@fearoffrying

5 жыл бұрын

@@ameliar6374 Do not pursue a college degree in the arts unless your family is very comfortable financially and willing to support you indefinitely. Even the most successful people I know from art school have needed some sort of cushion from time to time. Even with a degree from a prestigious school, finding steady work can be a challenge. I would recommend getting a degree in something with projected growth that would enable you to have time to build yourself up creativity while still having a stable income. I can understand that feeling like too much of a compromise when you feel so strongly about the arts, but you will find time for your passion if it's something you care about enough to want to do it for a living. Art education is widely available outside of a degree program. Plan B (if you choose to get a degree in the arts) is any way you can think to channel your creative skills and find out which jobs appeal to your interests and skills. What seems not boring to do for a job to you personally and how do people get those jobs? Schools just want your money and aren't going to tell you that the degree you're paying for with massive debt might be more trouble than it's worth in the long run.

@ameliar6374

5 жыл бұрын

Ari M thanks for the advice. These are things I’ve been thinking about for a while now since I’m now in my last year in high school. I specifically want to work in the fashion industry, and I know it to be a competitive industry but at the same time its something I’m so passionate about that it would be depressing if I decided on a different path. I’m also a realistic person and don’t want to be a starving artist so this is why thinking about my future can get a little worrisome. Thankfully I do hail from a somewhat financially strong family; We’re not rich but we do better than average, so I do feel as though I have a cushion to land on if I need it. I also have the added advantage of growing up in one of the highest ranking school districts in my state and my school has a lot to offer to its students. If I was going to explore a different career path I would be interested in either medicine, architecture, or environmental science, but I would definitely never cast off my dream of being a designer entirely. With all these interests it makes me wonder if I have to limit myself to working in strictly one field or if theres a way that I can incorporate all of them someway, but then again I know theres a difference between a hobby and a profession. There are also some articles I’ve read from the Harvard business review that were rather thought provoking for me. These are it if you’d like to read them (I’m rather interested in your opinion): hbr.org/2016/10/why-i-tell-my-mba-students-to-stop-looking-for-a-job-and-join-the-gig-economy hbr.org/2017/04/why-you-should-have-at-least-two-careers

Khrushchev hit the mark when he said that science was the focal point of the culture, not sports, celebrities, etc. People are so infatuated with celebrities and popular nonsense that they neglect what really matters; family, work, community, government.

"Sports mattered less Science meant more" ...to bad it did not stay that way...

I'm a single boomer at 67. No credit card debt. No car payment as I drive a 20 year old vehicle, bought used with cash. Grew up with few material goods. My father was a teacher in a small town. Our family had one vehicle. We went to thrift stores. Dad found used bikes for us. He repaired stuff. Someone gave us a used TV. Never bought a new one. Mom took us to the library a lot. We shared bedrooms. Some of our clothes were new. Some were hand-me-downs or thrift store finds. Church was central. Later, I worked a lot in order to buy a house and keep it. I've had some troubles and difficulties, but I take care of myself in a modest way. I'm amazed how good my parents were to us with so little. Kind, patient, and thoughtful. There were plenty of other families like this. The video above seems a little skewed in describing all the happenings. Many people just tried to make it and keep their heads above water.

I'm a boomer and experienced nothing like this....if we had to go to school two hours a day....I would have thrown a party!!!

@tdlkorbt100henry

4 жыл бұрын

Ok Boomer

I was 5 In 1957 and put into first grade. There was no kindergarten. In those days parents didn't sit and teach kids before entering school. I had my father's teacher who taught the old way. Those who learned quickly were sent to the back if the room. Slow learners were sent back to sit with those who learned the subject and helped them catch on. This way the teacher taught 40 some coal miner sons and daughters abcs, numbers, printing, cursive, addition , subtraction and reading before going on to second grade. There was no homework till 3rd or fourth grade.

Who else remembers drills where we crawled under our desk and covered our heads. Drills to practice what to do in case Russia dropped an atomic bomb on us. We were just kids then and thought that would help.

@kmcfadden6136

5 жыл бұрын

Marie Jackson I’m in high school now, and wow that actually sounds a lot like the active shooter drills my school has been doing since elementary school. In third grade we didn’t even think about why we had to prepare for active shooter situation and thought that if we just sit against the wall we’d be safe.

@christelheadington1136

5 жыл бұрын

We had to wear dog tags, went out in the windowless hallway for air raid drills, but it was the Koreans that were out to get us. Even in kindergarten, I wondered, why Korea would want to bomb Cleveland.

@lisagilbert8497

4 жыл бұрын

I’m 40 and we did this in school . I remember being terrified of Russia. Most boomers have no idea how long this lasted

@BB-fc3it

4 жыл бұрын

Christel Headington what elementary school in Cleveland? Shaker?

@leahakel6383

4 жыл бұрын

I do !! And today for me it's like I live through a dream it was real we lived in terror in school about the atomic Bond how we could survive yeah under the table oh falling on the ground

I’m 78, born in UK we had food shortages, ration books and long queues. I was bored at school, so thought a dummy, then put in a secondary modern, where I was first in class. The music was fabulous, and the consciousness expanded outside the box.

We ALL believed "Science and Math" was the "way to go" when President Eisenhower told us we had to produce MORE scientists and engineers. That was until the economy started to collapse in the late 1960's and being a "scientist or engineer" meant you became unemployed. It just got worse in the late 1980's and 1990's, when technical jobs were moved to China.

@Doriesep6622

3 жыл бұрын

science at odds with religion in this country too. science is not respected

I was born in 1948 There was a two tiered educational system. Most of this science stuff was only for the students whose parents could afford to send their children to college. Most children were only taught "general education" classes.

@jimfesta8981

13 күн бұрын

I am the same age as you, and you are right about the two-tiered system. Wood and metal shop classes along with general ed classes were for us students who were not college bound.

@karenwaddell9396

12 күн бұрын

I think it had more to do with ability, interest and ambition. I say Ymir’s as the daughter of a ww2 disabled vet and a waitress mother. I worked hard and wanted to learn. Not to disrespect your experience just saying mine was different.

Terrific documentary - I had not realized the when the strong push for maths and sciences began. This explains alot.

@TerryReedMiss

6 жыл бұрын

It's not just libtards but all who just sit around and DO noting about the politicians who are ruining us, AGAIN. This isn't new to our nation! We've had equally bad times in the 1800s AND 1700's! Study history more. We do have a chance of getting rid of the morons who ran bills throgh into laws, while being paid under the table by their new masters! THAT has to stop and NOW .. NOTHING is too big to fail, not even the USA.

Why have they stopped teaching students critical thinking and to think for themselves and do things like research etc...?

@angelsgranny

13 күн бұрын

You wouldn't like the answer to that question.

Wow, these baby boomers sure had a lot of advantages from today's generations. Great economy, great wages, rising home ownership, cheap college, and this video shows that the Greatest Generation took note that our education system was lacking and they made appropriate reforms in response. So many advantages, and yet here they leave behind today's terrible wages, broken politics, soaring debt, expensive healthcare, etc. And some of these Boomers, who were entrusted with a country once brimming with promise, leave behind a shadow of the country they inherited, and yet some have the unimaginable audacity to call Millenials "entitled". Millenials will spend their lifetimes repairing the damage... hopefully they're not too late.

@lukasz1154

5 жыл бұрын

@_egas calybird Except after the fall of Rome good times didnt arrive for thousands of years. Look at Asia, the Chinese Empire remained the pinacle of civilasation for thousands of years and never fell into the tragic ruins Europe fell. Europe was simply very unlucky the Empire that kept them secure failed by its own mistake (Fighting on too many fronts)

@NOOBLMAO

5 жыл бұрын

Did you even watch the video? This video is about how boomers started with many disadvantages, and how they worked together to improve things. Millennials can do the same.

@NOOBLMAO

5 жыл бұрын

Overcrowded and under-equipped schools. Overworked and underpaid teachers. Disengaged students. Poor quality of curriculum. It seems like they had a lot of the same problems that the current education system has.

@floofersnoofer

5 жыл бұрын

@@MsJudi54 I personally think everyone here is kind of missing the point, we should learn from both sides and their disadvantages and use them to better the mistakes each has made or in other words fix what multiple people, not just boomers or melienials have done, we should focus less on blaming the other side and more on what is happening and how to fix it and avoid it in the future, I don't mean to disrespect you but bringing up stuff like your daughter's success or how Bruce Wayne brought up the recession in 2008 are basically doing the opposite, you both are too busy trying to blame the other side or prove them wrong And I know that maybe you two can't do much, or you can but fighting in comment sections on social media won't fix anything, being from gen Z I feel like I don't have a say but maybe this reaches out to someone and helps them not to be rude due to problems that can be fixed if we stop fighting. So maybe if Bruce replies this helps you to not to blame or try too hard to disprove using someone else's experience, I mean no harm by saying this and I hope you have a wonderful day.

@jeniko2841

5 жыл бұрын

What? Sorry I was updating my facebook/instagram/tinder/snapchat to show everyone that follows me the food I ate/opinion on (insert reality TV show here)/fascist ideology that is called Anti-fascism, to listen. There is the problem, let's fix it.

I am a baby boomer born in the Bronx. Raised in Queens to an Italian father who came to America from Sicily in 1910. I am telling you, we were a very low-income family but we were taught respect for all human beings & in our schools we were taught how to live into our adult life, sadly something I miss; for today's younger generation though much smarter than we were aren't taught this way anymore. Thankfully, my brain is still very much alive and I am interested in many different subjects and well-versed with the computer. I hope that I will continue to hold the love of my "old" life, while progressing into this world with my "new life." Hoping that the younger generation today has the hopes and dreams I have carried in my heart and march forward with the love of life, community, and the world!

I am a Baby Boomer and there was not a class room shortage because after Kindergarten in which there was only a half of day I was in School all day which was about 7 hours these film clips of kids in the 50s

I think the most important change was that teachers taught students to "think for themselves." As a nation we are still way ahead of others in this regards. I was born in 1954 and thanks to nurturing of some of the best teachers in the world I eventually finished an MSN at Duke University. Coming from a West Virginian family too!

@JOHN----DOE

8 ай бұрын

This is SUCH a shibboleth. Rote learning is ESSENTIAL to master basics of foreign languages, grammar, mathematical algorithms. Since Plato, intelligent educators have known there is a learning window in development between ages 5 and 7 where the mind learns quickly and builds up critical masses of fact to do higher level operations. E.g. you can't "think for yourself" about history if you don't know a basic amount of fact; or do algebra without having internalized multiplication tables; or speak a language without memorized vocabulary. Rote learning is not SUFFICIENT but it is NECESSARY. A distinction few seem able to grasp. Not to mention there are more and less engaging ways to do the rote work.

This is an incredibly well put together documentary. Love the smoothness and the commentating was 10/10. Good job.

@user-zi8ux6fy2n

Ай бұрын

The narrator's voice is Forensic Files Peter Thomas...may he RIP.

Well school definitely went downhill, in my school we were basically just babysat. Most classes were not even taught , we just sat there while the teacher did whatever and did whatever. Nobody seemed to care. If you were from certain families or was a cheerleader or played sports u got an A even if u sleep in class and never showed or never did homework. Every one else got C D F. If anyone complained we were told to get over it cause this is how the real world works. It’s not how hard you work or what you know it’s who you are and who you know and sadly .........😢. After 15 yrs in the world of work I think they telling the truth. Seen people get promotions that clearly they did not earn while hard working people were passed by. Was it a coincidence that the people promoted often ate lunch with the lead manger🤔

@joelouie5649

Жыл бұрын

Or they were of Caucasian descent!

@jcbulldog533

9 күн бұрын

​@@joelouie5649Seriously, Maybe they were Black!!

A walk down memory lane for this leading-edge baby boomer. I was obsessed with science from the time I was 7, thanks to Don Herbert, AKA Mr. Wizard. After a couple of brief detours, I spent most of my life as a computer programmer/systems analyst.

No one ever taught me HOW to study for tests. I never learned what highlighting core meaning in a paragraph with yellow highlighter was until Psychology 1A freshman year at college. Once I tried it, I got an A on the test. Thanks guys. Seems like teaching students how to study should be core part of early education.

@susanb6289

Жыл бұрын

Or about replacing something unfamiliar with something you know well or like. Like it solving word problems. If they use a baseball theme to figure that confusion out, replace it with how many dollies does Suzy have if Judy takes 12 dollies and Brenda takes 1 dolly. You know what I mean? How I despised and feared The Dreaded Math Word Problem. Now I love them and do them for fun. Logic Games. Go figure.

@susanb6289

Жыл бұрын

Me and Algebra are still like rubbing two magnets together. Just forget it.

I’m a 73 year old Boomer who was fortunate enough to grow up in perhaps the greatest twenty year time period of peace and prosperity this nation has ever known. I worked hard in Catholic grade school, building the solid foundation I would later need for high school/college to become a successful hospital pharmacist. I continue to practice, grateful every day for my continued good health and happiness to enjoy all of what life has to offer me. 😀 🇺🇸 ✝️

@jillsmiley7701

5 күн бұрын

Has there been time with out our soldiers fighting somewhere? WW II, Korea,Vietnam,Gulf war,Afghanistan,Iraq

@jillsmiley7701

5 күн бұрын

And Gaza

I think there needs to be more aptitude testing in schools. I think don't mix the fast students with the slower students. Not everyone is made to excel at algebra. I think there should be two types of education after the 8th grade one for academics the other for the trades.

@mollycornelius611

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. I think after a certain age you know if you are going to be a doctor or not. Start preparing for the real world.

@sharpaycutie2

2 жыл бұрын

Eh. Most kids just go to advanced classes now. But I don't think skipping grades helps kids socially. Cu what does a 15 year old have in common with a college student?

@robertcuminale1212

Жыл бұрын

They used to separate the kids that way in the 1940s. My Father did not read well. Neither did his brothers and sister. Later on they were found to dyslexic. My Father graduated from East New York Vocational High School with a diploma in Metallurgy. He could do almost anything with metal. He didn't make much money when I was young. He had jobs as a welder and was a member of The International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers Local 3 as did my Grandfather. My Grandfather was in the plant maintenance department at Circle Wire and Cable in Maspeth Long Island. My Father worked wherever the union sent him. He made custom electrical panels for the the big buildings in New York City. There were no out the box panels for those buildings. It was dirty work as he got older he progressed out of the dirty work. We moved to Florida and the only work he could get was relining the insides of cement trucks by welding steel plates into them. He did that for about a year until a new company opened up manufacturing custom commercial equipment. This was much nicer work. All Stainless Steel. My Father was now in his 30s and he was a craftsman. He did it all. Measured the job up, ordered the materials, Shear and brake it, lay it out, weld and polish and then install it. Airport kitchens, synagogue kitchens, chain restaurants, hospital kitchens, etc. Even gambling casinos in the Caribbean. He could go out alone and hire local laborers and hang hoods. He was in demand and was always getting telephone calls. He was a certified welder for nuclear power plant piping. He made a lot of money. Enough to support a wife and 8 kids. And no educational debt. We need industrial arts schools to train the non-academic students so they won't become lay-abouts or prisoners.

I'm a boomer and everyone I knew had full days of school.

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

4 жыл бұрын

Then you did not grow up in one of those suburbs that just exploded during that period of time. Across the country, tens of millions of houses were being built on formally rural farmland to create suburbs and overwhelm the local school systems. David Hoffman-filmmaker

My wife grew up in the soviet union. Not only was their school year longer, they were also given 6 weeks worth of homework to cover summer holidays that had to be complete by September, or you'd fail.

At least the teachers weren't getting punched out by students like today. They didn't have to worry about guns in the class room too.

@carpetcowboy58

6 жыл бұрын

They never needed to be fixed. When I was in high school (64-68) , half the trucks in the parking lot during hunting season had a rifle or shotgun in the window rack. The only problems they caused were a few tardies when someone took too long checking out a new shotgun. None of those guns ever jumped off the rack and "went postal".

@kimmer6

6 жыл бұрын

Cowboy, I recall bringing a pistol to high school in the 11th grade to show to some combat vet teachers in the parking lot after school. That was in the 60's.They didn't call the SWAT team, either.

@QuantumEffectResidue

6 жыл бұрын

In my humble opinion, it was the 1990's that was the real "nail in the coffin" for American society. The first nail started in the 1960's ( that's when the demoralization kicked in) , and by the 1990's the final nail was put in. Now? We have been on "overtime" since 2000. Since then we are really just a "skeleton society" similar to the term "skeleton crew"

@KeithsReviews

6 жыл бұрын

You can thank Abe Lincoln for that.

@shananagans5

5 жыл бұрын

narek: What exactly is an "assault rifle" or military grade? In the 50's & 60's many people had M1 Garands and M14's which was the exact gun the US military was using. My grandfather bought a surplus M1 from the military because it was exactly like the one he carried on Iwo & Guam when he was in the 3rd Marine Division. Those were full sized .30 cal rifles and many were sold directly to the public from military surplus markets. My friend's father still has an M1 that was actually used in the Korean war. Now the military has switched to a much smaller bullet .223 cal and you can not own an actual M4 that the military uses. The AR looks like the M4 but functions totally differently. The term "assault rifle" is made up & it makes no sense whatsoever. Assault is an action, it's a verb. Rifle is a noun, it's a thing. "Assault rifle" is??? An action noun?? Seriously, think about what you are saying. What makes any gun military grade? The steel? The plastic? The color? How fast it can fire? If that's what you mean, it's already very difficult to get something that is full auto. You need a special license and they cost tens of thousands of dollars.

I remember having 35-40 kids in a class and thought that was a normal size. When we moved I was in a new school with new mates in the 2nd grade: that was rough for a while. Mom at home, Dad at work with one paycheck, walked or rode the bike everywhere. No fat on me then!!! lol

Oh, how I remember those days. The pressure. The pain. The dread. The misery. I didn't care about beating the Russians. I cared about how my father was incessantly beating me and how the whole oppressive and tyrannical system was driving me down into the depths of misery and despair. In school I felt like my place was underneath the foundation with the weight of it all just crushing me into the earth. Betimes I envied the dead who were already six feet below and were beyond all pain. Not me. I had to finish my homework and then sleep some to prepare for the dreaded tomorrow when I would have to get back on the school bus and go back to suffer another day, and then to come home again loaded down with homework to endure under the cruel oversight of my parents. All I wanted to do was to finish out my time and get out on my own. I could find some simple job in which I did not have to know all the crap or to have had good grades. What a relief it would be! Actually, I like learning. I chose not to go to college, but I independently learned on mine own what I was interested in learning. Some people are surprised when they learn that I never went to college. I take my pride in being a deplorable thought criminal.

@zampieritto

3 жыл бұрын

I am similar to you mate

It all depended on where you lived....I grew up in an affluent suburb of Long Island. It was designed FOR the baby boom. We never had more than 20 per class. The kids in nearby NYC didn't fare as well if they were in public school. But my parents paid a fortune in taxes.

@EyeLean5280

6 жыл бұрын

I was born in the last year of the baby boom and had a similar experience. Although my own family wasn't particularly wealthy, we happened to live in one of the country's wealthiest and highest-rated districts. The facilities and teachers were wonderful and I feel especially lucky to have had access. And yes, the taxes were high and some of our neighbors complained about it but I notice they didn't opt to send their kids to private schools because really, none of the ones in the area were as good as our public high school. A top-notch education isn't cheap and if we believe in our country, we should be willing to pay taxes and invest in the nation's future through its education.

@j.denino5732

6 жыл бұрын

D. Garbato we had 30 per class in NYC boro of Staten Island

@zxyatiywariii8

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely depended on where you lived. I'm too young to be a boomer myself, but I currently live in the same school district where a boomer friend of mine grew up. I'm grateful I never went to the school she attended; it was horrible. And not for lack of funds, but for lack of good teachers. Another school not far away had all the best teachers in the area.

@louiekidd251

5 жыл бұрын

I was born Nov17,1948 in southeast Virginia. Went to school there and we always had enough teachers.

@booglegoo6526

5 жыл бұрын

Most of my classes had about 30 students. My calculus class only had nine.

For the first four years of my scholastic career, I was given a CLASSICAL EDUCATION by Nuns at a local Catholic School.. They asked me to leave because I kept asking questions about Jesus and the whole biblical story that they couldn't or would not answer... It was shortly after that that I began to read the entire encyclopedia to educate MYSELF.... I got all the way to Q R S when some body came up with computers and the internet.. Now I had most of the worlds information on my desk top to study to my hearts content.. That was 20 years ago.. If I were take some tests today, I might even qualify for some kind of degree in Philosophy.....

@coriander3170

2 жыл бұрын

Me too!

I was born in 1947, lived in a small town which had no kindergarten, and I started in first grade in 1953. In the first grade, we had 2 first grade classes sharing 1 classroom - for half the year your class had the classroom from 8-12 and the other class had the classroom from 12:30-4:30. At the mid-year point, the classes swapped schedules- if you went in the morning for the first half of the year, you went in the afternoon for the second half. Therefore I experienced the double sessions. But most of this video seems, even though it says "baby boomers", to have happened to those a few years older than me. When Sputnik launched in October, 1957, I was only 10 years old and starting fifth grade. I don't think we'd even had science in the fifth grade, and math consisted of fractions. I'm one of the oldest baby boomers; maybe this had more of an impact on those baby boomers born in later years

Now our mission is for pliable zombie-like adults with little to no critical thinking skills who are right at home in a 3 foot cubicle under artificial light...

@Illuminated333

4 жыл бұрын

Nolan Burkhart “I don’t want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers” -Rockefeller 1913 (Founder of the Department of Education)

I'm a teacher and many of the same problems in the 1950s school system are still present today. Low teacher pay, long hours, lack of funding and resources, goverment overreach, and disrespectful students and now parents are all issues we teachers still face. It's like nothing has been learned from the past when it comes to education! The pendulum is always swinging from one extreme to the other. There is now a new focus on STEM or STEAM, but I can't tell you the number of kids who are pushed through year after year without knowing how to read on grade level. It is nearly impossible to hold a student back. The parents are so afraid of stigmatizing their child, and they have many methods to appeal, so the school board acquiesces to the wants of the parents, and students are pushed to the next grade unprepared. They fall further and further behind, and teachers are faced with a classroom full of students who are on vastly different levels, and we are expected to teach and challenge each student on their individual levels?! I have had students in my 4th grade class who were reading on a kindergarten level (ESOL or developmently behind) all the way up to a 9th grade level (gifted) and everything in between. The main goal of the administration is to make sure our students do well on the big end of the year state test. That test is the be all end all, so we teachers spend the majority of classroom time teaching kids to the test when some kids are lacking basic fundamentals. Teachers are quitting in droves! I'm considering getting a master's degree in another field and getting out myself. I love so many things avout teaching, and it all has to do with the individual students, but the bureaucracy that is our education system makes being the teacher I want to be nearly impsossible.

@jaynawilliams6060

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, I feel so sorry for those measly pensions you all get for teaching these kids gender studies, intersectional identity analysis, and communist theory.

I'm an early boomer & saw it all happen. I started elementary on a morning session until they built a new school for us in my 4th grade. I was placed in 8th grade in an acclerated program of math & science as part of a country wide reaction to Sputnik. My state university was tuition free.

I’m a boomer. I remember sitting in a classroom with 36 other kids with a horribly cranky teacher who treated us like products on an assembly line. I quickly learned the material and then got bored waiting for the rest of the kids to catch up learning by rote. Like most bored kids, I acted out and became a disciplinary problem. I hated school, but put up with it. I suppose they left me alone because my grades were good. Pretty well every elementary school had a couple of portable classrooms taking up playground space. My old elementary school is closed today due to declining enrolment, guess it’s a sign of the times.

And now they graduate kids who have less knowledge of Math n English than we needed in 1973 to get into 6th grade. Forget about Science. The only kids I know that learn much past what was 3rd grade level when I was in school are the ones that learn it on their own. We actually have HS grads that think the world is flat. I swear most of these kids would be just as smart if not smarter if they didn't even go to school. WTH??

@TheJulithegreat

6 жыл бұрын

The earth is flat. Oh i bet you think we actually landed on the moon too! 😂

@brett6905

6 жыл бұрын

Sure our school system is the pits, always has been...it was originally designed to churn out factory workers and mid level managers at best... and it hasn't changed since its inception... Public education was never meant to make entrepreneurs or intellectuals. But having said that statistically IQ's have been rising. Kids today are smarter than they were in the 1970's, if you believe the IQ statistics.

@boslyporshy6553

6 жыл бұрын

The crux of the issue is that education is still focused on the instants results rather than the underlying long term. Sure, there's 30+ to classrooms, but that wouldn't have been an issue, if it became common place for the faster students to help the slower ones. The smarter ones could be challenged with the task of communicating information and dealing with a different perspective, and the slower students could get the attention they needed as well as gain more of a desire to learn, all while the teacher could act as more of an overseer. Wasn't that how it worked early on in schoolhouse history with having multiple grades in the same classroom?

@blancajrodriguez

5 жыл бұрын

The earth is flat. Read the oldest book called the Bible.

@brett6905

5 жыл бұрын

+Bosly Porshy I definitely agree its about instant results rather than long term learning.. but I think schools today focus too much on memorization rather than thought. its just parroting back what you learned for a standardized test. if learning isn't fun then its not effective in my opinion.

Remember also, that the entire Boomer generation went through the whole school system BEFORE learning disabilities such as ADHD and autism were widely known, or were known at all! This meant that students with ADD or ADHD endured 12 years of being told we were "not living up to your potential" or were lazy, stupid, flighty, et cetera, and were punished for something we could NOT help! Not only that, but bullying was severe! Girls were told "Don't pay any attention and the bullies will give up." Boys were told "toughen up!" but NO other measures were ever taken.

I was born as a baby boomer as well...and right up until grade 9,there were two of each class,with our own classrooms!

I was born in 1956. My education then was better than most University and colleges of today. No doubt about it.

@charlesodonnell2993

15 күн бұрын

Same with me. I was reading thousand page books in the 6th grade. By the time I taught college I had semiliterate students in my class.

I was born in 1947 and sure never heard of a lot of this stuff... 2 hour classes, huge changes, focus on science, etc.

Throughout all of school, I was building stuff, creating stuff, and writing a book about marine biology. My science teacher loved it, and my art teacher made me her assistant. I loved books and we had the library and book mobile. My mother always said you can do anything. If you have interest just go for it, do not hold yourself back. Life is constant exploration and wonder.

I went to Catholic grammar school grades 1-8 and we had 50-55 kids per class. The nuns were strict and we did learn. For punishment we had to write out the time tables which of course we knew by heart. The study skills I learned there served me my whole life and contributed to my success in college and work. The values I learned there gave meaning to my life and shaped me as a person. I wish I had been able to go to Catholic high school as well. Catholic schools at that time were excellent. I was born in 1953 and don't remember science being pushed so much but I do remember the excitement of the nascent space age. I do remember being taught that a liberal arts education was a great foundation.

14:22 1950's : Promising young rocket scientists. 2017: Oh no.....terrorists..... we must stop them!

@stateofexistence2049

5 жыл бұрын

*FBI OPEN UP*

@danielbelisle5152

4 жыл бұрын

2020:WW3

@LSMH528Hz

4 жыл бұрын

rocket scientists in those days were adults, like the famous werner von braun, a well known nazi who was invited by the US to work for them. even that didn't prevent russia launching sputnik way before america had a satellite..

The narrator sounds like the guy from "Forensic Files."

@tylernicholls917

4 жыл бұрын

Trans Atlantic accent

I was lucky enough to spend 3 years at a middle school that went all out on trade jobs and shop classes, and the high school I was going to go to had some amazing opportunities for it. Sadly I moved out before I ever went there and I think about it every day. I was constantly reminded there that there were other pursuits than college, and it was very fulfilling. It would be amazing if schools across the US were to push this stuff. I absolutely loved it, and while I'm not planning on doing any trade stuff, the information was useful nonetheless. trade jobs are in high demand and have good pay, and if it was more of an opportunity it would benefit the US greatly

Our middle school shop and Home Ec classes were still pre-Sputnik in the 1970s. No one built a transformer.

I am a Baby Boomer and I did not have any of these problems! Now some of our teachers have a different thinking of America!

All that commotion, and when we graduated we went to Woodstock. There's a moral there somewhere.

@shahrazade26

5 жыл бұрын

It should be mentioned that only those born during the first six years of the baby boom were old enough to go to Woodstock.

@e8ghtmileshigh1

3 жыл бұрын

We? No you were part of a vocal minority.

Rip my grandma she passed last year from Covid born June 5 1950 I like Just seeing how they grew up

It’s interesting that a lot of the same problems that were shown at the beginning of the video are the same problems we still have today. Overcrowded schools and classrooms, teaching on mass rather than one on one, slower kids can’t keep up, brighter kids get bored, etc.

I was fortunate to attend Catholic school then. There were 56-60 in a class and those nuns didn't seem to have any problems. DISCIPLINE! Can't do that today -- lawsuits.

@bobbysands6923

6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was in those 60-kid classes. I hated it then but I have to admit the nuns did a great of educating us.

@2011littlejohn1

6 жыл бұрын

There is only one real discipline - self. My crazed despotic teachers of the 50's taught me that the guy with the big stick has the power but not to be respected because I also found out they were not infallible and there is a converse side to unspeaking obediance.

@danmagoo

6 жыл бұрын

You say that like it was a good thing. In my experience, those nuns were psychotics and sadists, who belonged in a cage -- or in Hell.

@kimmer6

6 жыл бұрын

Mr. Magoo... I was sentenced to catholic school (no caps earned) in the 50's and 60's. I agree with you. The nuns punished my older brother, mimicked him, called him names (Gaum...a Gaelic word for stupid). He had Asperger's Syndrome and was sickly with severe asthma. Some shrivelled apple faced old biddy nun informed me that every time my brother did something to their disliking, I would be punished as well. I was. We were polite, quiet children who never spoke out of turn, never broke the rules, and did what we were told. Basically my brother was introverted, did not volunteer for anything, did not want to play recess games. He was the opposite of a trouble maker. Many of the nuns picked on him because he was different, not because he broke any rules. They even encouraged other kids to make fun of my him. Their vitriol ruined my brother's life forever. He still cowers like a scared puppy in his late 60's, fearful of being punished. He never left home, never had a girlfriend, never married. It took him until his early 50's to start enjoying life with less guilt. The only things that 12 years of catholic school accomplished was to hold me back socially (high school was boy's side, girl's side), made me hate the church, and make me wish that I should have doused some nuns in charcoal lighter and set them on fire. One old bitch with a white box on her head kept beating my left hand with a ruler in first grade for not holding the pencil in my right hand. My mother noticed the marks and had strong words with the nuns. I think that was the beginning of their vendetta against our family. I recall these nuns shaming us and shaking us down for money at least once a week in grade school. They had collections for ''Pagan Babies''. I wonder whee that went. Maybe it bought fuel for the jet helicopter that the Bishop of Los Angeles tooled around in. There was only one nun, sister Mary Thecla, from 7th and 8th grades who I admire and respect. She was the only ray of light for me in grade school.

@clairebeauty4183

6 жыл бұрын

Im glad you may have had a good experience with catholic schools, Canada has suffered due to religion at the hands of Catholics / Catholic Schools, Many of Native Americans of that baby boomer were tourtured, raped, beaten and stripped of any individuality and culture due to the nuns and priests who ran residential schools all across canada

You have a wonderful archive. Thanks for posting so much great stuff!

@yankee2666

Жыл бұрын

There's a great little paperback novel, a la Rockwell, called Jordy, Bounce, and Lilli, that captures the flavor of the post- WWII era through the lives of two small children and their cat. I know it's available on Amazon. I just finished my copy… loved it.

Grade 2-HS - '52-62 -often had to share a desk.Third grade, 54 students, 1 teacher (she was great, no problems). By1954-5, for next 6-7 years, not enough classrooms. Clssses held in cafeteria, closets, etc. Our town built a new school every year or two. Fifth grade class I was in was a new Jr Hi, just started. Only Two classrooms in two basement rooms (designed for shop/home ec).1 RR and 1drinking fountain. Recess was outside - we used building supplies - boards, pipes, etc. We survived. I was in that school from1955-1960! Did not have disrupting discipline issues. Curriculum was well-rounded.

Where did we lose our way? We now focus on feelings rather than fact.

Of course by the late 60s and early 70s (my Jr and Sr HS years), these studies you hail, had once again fallen by the wayside. Yes, Biology was all about disecting frogs. Home Ec consisted of making cinnamon toast and cookies, and then finally, learning to sew an apron. American History was rote memorization of dates. Science projects, though required, consisted of little more than timing how long it takes for mold to grow on a slice of bread in differing environments. French I and II were total jokes, as the teacher, herself, could not even pronunce French words correctly, let alone teach us to read or converse in the language. Sharing independant thoughts or ideas was completely discouraged,, with one who dared to express such things, could find his or herself being the butt of ridicule by the students, as well as by the "teacher". OMG! The list goes on and on... The only two bright spots in all my years in Jr/Sr HS, were chorus, and in THAT, at least, we had an excllent educator, AND in my being elected Cheerleader every year. :D Anyway, what a complete waste of my and every else's time and energy. Thankfully, we needed so few credits to graduate at the time, that just by my taking Sr English in Summer School and by completing the other requisites in my Jr year (by taking all the required courses and forgoing any electives), I was able to graduate at age 17, a full year early - because I simply HAD to get the hell out of Dodge, no matter the cost! So, this is the story of MY school experiment, err, experience, and I am standing behind every word! :) What was yours like by comparison? ~ Amy x

@mv5984

5 жыл бұрын

I graduated in the early 00s and remember having a Home Ec class in HS but honestly, I don't recall doing a single thing. We certainly never cooked! HS was a waste of time. Most classes focused on learning dates or vocabulary words. I enjoyed my English AP classes, we had to do a lot of writing and there was a TON of vocabulary words to memorize but I actually still have a better vocabulary than most folks I know, so that was the ONLY class in HS that actually passed on useful skills!

@izzyj.1079

5 жыл бұрын

I just graduated last May. The math classes were just rote algebraic equation memorization, no Euclid or the like to actually understand any of it. English basically boiled down to annotating the fuck out of three or so pieces at a time, which would be selected based on a common theme, and then writing an essay about our own opinions at the end using the essays as evidence. I suppose it would be useful to teach researching and critical thinking if it were earlier; but by junior or senior year, all the students either already knew it or were never going to learn it from school. So alot of time ended up wasted. Science required alot of 'lab projects', but these mostly boiled down to measuring things like 'how long does this car take to go down a hill at different angles'. And then for whatever reason, we had to write an essay on that too. That was most of it anyway, and then Physics decided to add math to the equation (no pun intended). That turned into a guantlet class that noone enjoyed. And literally the entire grade was in agreement that the teacher sucked. I found History/Social Studies/Political Science/Economics (they took the same credit depending on the semester) completely pointless until 8th grade. Then I got a string of REALLY good instructors, and they're the only core credits I came from school enjoying. Still do to this day in fact. The classes were a little American-centric for my taste, but most of the kids are sadly not paying half the attention I did. So the curriculum isn't the biggest problem at hand. I tried for Independent Living (my school's Home Ec), but I didn't wind up getting it. So I can't comment on that one. I spent alot of my electives on computer classes. Robotics, programming, and the like. The tech department had a pair of really good instructors at the helm, and I enjoyed the topics, so naturally it all was enjoyable to me. I found the classes a little on the easy side most of the time but I was also always skilled in those departments, so perhaps I'm not the greatest measuring stick.

@joanmadrigal1458

5 жыл бұрын

I was born in 1999. This is what I learned in our current school system for Elementary School and High School. Math: All my teachers quit, so the coaches would take over the class and since they had no real knowledge or motivation to teach it, I have not learned long division to this day. (I'm in my second year of college.) Reading/Writing: Read a small essay/passage and answer questions about it. If you aren't good at writing, it's okay, you may create an essay that is completely made up of the same sentence except written differently every time and you will still be sure to pass easily. Science: Who's that? Oh, you mean the animal cell model I once made out clay? The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, right? History: Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. seemed like nice guys, I suppose.

@AMYBIERHAUS

5 жыл бұрын

@@joanmadrigal1458 You have a fabulous wit; great comment!

@harrylutz7321

2 жыл бұрын

Not far behind you in your assessment of the h.s. experience of that era and 50’s/60’s. You are spot on! The more I read and view things on KZread I’m shocked at all the innocuous info and lies we were taught.

Almost everything I've learned about history, politics, language, science, belief systems, geography ect I learned on my own. Public school didn't teach me shit.

@nathalia00906

3 жыл бұрын

Same

I’ve heard that the U.S. is behind many other countries now when it comes to education. I’m very blessed to have started school (1st grade) in 1969 and I got a very good education. At age 4 when I was in head start the class I was in was given a science project to do, and this has left me with a very good and positive memory.

Education in the US as of 2020 is Students sitting in front of a computer and taking test drills answering multiple choice questions. Teaching to the test.

I'm looking for the baby boomers somewhere here 🔍

I was in parochial school starting 1963. 1st & 2nd grades in one room. the nun taught one side for a while, then taught the other side for a while, back & forth. worked for me. she kept order & disciple. everyone thought if you disobeyed, you'd go to hell, or it was a sin, & you were punished by the paddle or ruler!!

@JoeKaye-hn5dt

6 жыл бұрын

We had exactly one hour of that a week - it was called Catechism.

@tundratomo

6 жыл бұрын

i went to parochial school. it ruined my life in so many ways.

@JoeKaye-hn5dt

6 жыл бұрын

What I didn't like about Catholic school is they almost never double promoted anybody (if ever). I got DP'd twice in public school (1A & 4B). I did get DP'd in catechism tho.' Skipped the 8th grade because I was starting HS in January and HS Catechism was at night.

don't waste the nun's time, or she'll punish you or sent you to the office, where you got punished, then they called the parents & you got spanked at home too.

@ve5618

6 жыл бұрын

how many spirits were crushed by those freaks

@johnnywalker7350

6 жыл бұрын

Nuns were evil

so you're telling me.... as a millenial.... these children had better education in the later 1950's than I got in 2009?

Holy crap! They got Nikita Khruschev's son for this documentary!

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Yes I did. He was a great story teller with lots of unique perspectives. David Hoffman - filmmaker

@d.m.collins1501

5 жыл бұрын

@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker did he ever get to go to Disneyland?

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

5 жыл бұрын

Not to my knowledge, but possibly he did. David Hoffman-filmmaker

Back when being "Educated" was considered PATRIOTIC.

It's crazy imagining all of those boys now walking around with grey goatees and beer bellies.

I remember having duck and cover drills in grade schools

@14:10 So this kid invented a prototype version of Siri?! Cool!

change the title to 1950s - What baby boomers experienced IN THE U.S I know people in the U.S forget that America is not the world

@pawelpap9

3 жыл бұрын

You are quite right. Both baby boomers and 60s rebellion were world wide phenomena. It might be good to remember that most of these young people dealt with actual problems. I personally wish I had in the 60s problems of American teenagers. A choice between highly paid job and smoking dope in SF.

14:37 I recognized that music almost instantly. David, I've been meaning to write to you for a while. I found your channel and subscribed a few months back, and was so pleased to have found you, to a. see more of your work and b. get to tell you how hugely important Making Sense of the Sixties was to me. As someone born in that decade whose life changed quite a bit as the 70s rolled in, I've had a longing and a nostalgia for that period of time. And "making sense" of that is something I was always trying to do: --- Why do I long for it so much (outside of personal reasons)? If it was a time, and if time is linear, then is it impossible to revisit the 60s? ...But so very many people who lived at that time live on and bring their experiences with them, so the decade is *not* gone. But then again, culture lurched away from a lot of what that decade practiced and espoused; people have even renounced their former beliefs. ...Is it a place; is there anywhere I can go where I might feel like that decade is still alive? Or is that everywhere? Is that timeframe gone, or is still all around us? --- These are the kinds of things I was trying to make sense of. Besides great source material, you had such interesting and trenchant interview subjects. And you had so much time to actually explore ideas and questions and events, without having to wrap everything up in 58 minutes. AND ... that *music*. I think you wrote it, am I right? Years ago, I taped the whole series, on state-of-the-art VHS, and watched it several times, but years went by and I hadn't seen it, yet I could still conjur up that main 4-bar melody line. And I could hear it warping and opening up as a raga was introduced into it, cracking 4/4 time as the images flashed like memory. Great, great music for a truly unforgettable film project. Thank you!

I was in one of those schools that had shifts. One semester, I went from 6:30 AM to noon. The next semester, I went from noon until 4:30.

I was born in 1953 and we never had this situation at any level.

@sassy0010

6 жыл бұрын

jimster46, we were a tad too young. I was born in '54 and although I went to Catholic school and never experienced these half-days and such, by the time I started elementary school in '60 the worst of it was no longer happening. We did have large classes though.

Wow, this is fascinating. And so true. I remember. I was in 7th grade when I first became aware of the school's extra emphasis on math and science. This was a few years after Sputnik- 1962-63. I didn't connect it with Sputnik until many years later.

I was born in 54 so I entered Kidnergarten in 59. I went to Catholic School so I didn't have any problems. Catholic School taught two years ahead of public school.

I was born in 51, I don’t remember anything being like this, except overcrowded classes

@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker

13 күн бұрын

Did you grow up in the suburbs? Read my description and you will understand what group of people are being looked at in this clip and in my documentary series. David Hoffman filmmaker

I went from being a "duck and cover" grammar school kid of the 50's to being a Nike Hercules anti-aircraft missile crewman at age 18.

Remember, open education was a failure on the elementary level.

1958 was the first year of a new Catholic school for me in a town that already had good schools. Most of my class went on to college and beyond. Many became business leaders. The core teachings at that grammar school were impressive.

I was in grade/high school in the 90s. All that lab equipment sat on shelves under the dust covers. We never got to use it.