1929 Scottish Tantallon Cakes Recipe - Old Cookbook Show - Glen And Friends Cooking

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1929 Scottish Tantallon Cakes Recipe - Old Cookbook Show - Glen And Friends Cooking
Today on the Old Cook Book Show we tackle another old Scottish recipe and try to lay to rest a myth of Scottish cooking... Prior to WW2 Scottish cooking included a lot of Rice, and a lot of Rice flour.
Tantallon Cakes
(Old Edinburgh Recipe)
Flour, rice flour, butter, sugar, bicarbonate of soda, lemon, eggs.
Mix together four ounces of flour, four ounces of rice flour, and a pinch of bicarbonate of soda. Cream four ounces of butter with four ounces of sugar. Beat two eggs and add these alternately with the flour to the butter and cream. Flavour with lemon. Make into a stiff dough, roll out thinly, and cut with a small scalloped round into biscuits. Bake for half an hour in a fairly hot oven. When cool, dust them with fine white sugar.
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  • @JBIsThisLife
    @JBIsThisLife3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing better than a good ole historical smack down!

  • @applegal3058

    @applegal3058

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, yup!

  • @matthewthiesen6098

    @matthewthiesen6098

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was left so satisfied 🥲

  • @Nlmtella

    @Nlmtella

    3 жыл бұрын

    As God as my witness Glen has broken the haters in half.

  • @ricardoc4677

    @ricardoc4677

    3 жыл бұрын

    Seriously, who tf is giving this man hate?? People can be such ignorant scumbags. Thank you for sharing this Glen! You owe us nothing and yet you continue to give despite these dumb asses. Keep up the great work, sir.

  • @zeroone871

    @zeroone871

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Nlmtella Somehow,when I read your comment, it was in all caps.

  • @Swordandsteel
    @Swordandsteel3 жыл бұрын

    Glenn doesn’t care if you disagree with him, but you’d better be right. If you’re wrong... buckle up Mad respect for your respect of culture

  • @RamonaQ
    @RamonaQ3 жыл бұрын

    Can we not stress Glen out, please? He is a bastion of calm in a chaotic world. We need him. Keep your beef to yourselves. He must be protected.

  • @kiltymacbagpipe

    @kiltymacbagpipe

    3 жыл бұрын

    I dunno, he taught me a lot through his “rant”. Maybe Glenn ranting is what we all need in an age of ignorance. The dumb dumbs stamp their feet and glen takes them and us to school.

  • @Colinupham

    @Colinupham

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kiltymacbagpipe well said! 🙂

  • @60sSam

    @60sSam

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glen is like the Bob Ross of cooking for the modern age.

  • @RamonaQ

    @RamonaQ

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@60sSam I like this.

  • @David-bs6bv
    @David-bs6bv3 жыл бұрын

    Them: "That's not traditional...." Glen: "Hold my historically correct beer."

  • @shelaghsings8235
    @shelaghsings82353 жыл бұрын

    Your version of ranting is lovely. Not so much a rant, more of a thorough schooling. The Old Cookbook Show has become my favorite way to start my Sunday, as I'm sure it has for many others. Thank you for creating such a unique and informative channel - which is quite an accomplishment in these KZreadr days.

  • @didisinclair3605

    @didisinclair3605

    Жыл бұрын

    ... what she said....

  • @nickbriggs9620
    @nickbriggs96203 жыл бұрын

    If you’re not watching the old cookbook show to LEARN you’re doing it wrong!!! Love it! Keep taking us to school my friend!

  • @ryanmg92
    @ryanmg923 жыл бұрын

    As a British (English) person, I've always found it quite interesting that almost everything we eat that's held as "traditional" or such, tends to be made with ingredients that originate from other corners of the world that aren't remotely native.

  • @CharlesOttman
    @CharlesOttman3 жыл бұрын

    Hard to argue with those published cookbooks, though someone probably will.

  • @tim_goll

    @tim_goll

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Glen printed them himself in this backyard"

  • @calebmartin547

    @calebmartin547

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tim_goll I call conspiracy! 🤣

  • @grant1133
    @grant11333 жыл бұрын

    As a Scot I'll say that I really dont care what's in something as long as it tastes nice 😜 every country is very protective of their "authentic" food , look how angry Italians get with Carbonara but as you said , recipes change over time so people just need to calm their beans and learn their food history.

  • @fafski1199

    @fafski1199

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly....What exactly is "authentic" anyway? Most people back then, just like now would often make their own version of a dish and would often substitute or even miss out ingredient's entirely. This was not only like now and due what food items they liked, but also due to having to eat food that was often seasonal and often having to use up any food that was about to 'go off'. A relatively simple dish could vary not only from the person who made it, but also vary due to what they had in the cupboards at the time, along with the season. For example, a simple chicken and vegetable soup would have been hugely different during the summer, than during winter, due to having to use different vegetables and herbs.

  • @Redhotcook

    @Redhotcook

    3 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely why not just enjoy the excellent cooking & history lesson. 💕

  • @mndlessdrwer

    @mndlessdrwer

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh, yes. The Italian-American community gets bent entirely out of shape about using butter in anything Italian, not realizing that northern Italy uses butter in a lot of their traditional cuisine. Like, I get that your great-great-grandparents were from southern Italy and you drink olive oil and shun butter like the plague, but you don't get to speak for all Italians. Regionality is an important thing to recognize in food culture. A whole country's cuisine cannot simply be homologated into a singular entity without insulting the nuances of their various regional food cultures. Chinese food is a particularly good example of this. Their traditional food cultures vary wildly depending on how inland the regions are, how far north they are, their distance from a large river, etc. There may be commonalities in certain preparations, but the base ingredients tend to vary wildly. Dumplings from southeast China tend to be rice paper wrappers with some seafood involved whereas dumplings from northwest China are wheat wrappers with land animals or poultry inside. They may also be different shapes, have different thicknesses of wrapper, have different flavorings and even cooking methods, etc. Basically, regionality is vitally important to understand so you don't end up just sounding like an insular self-absorbed asshat. Also, carbonara with olive oil or with butter are delicious in different ways.

  • @Blackobluna
    @Blackobluna3 жыл бұрын

    Glenn: gets hate mail over recipes Also Glenn: "Why are you booing me, I'm right!"

  • @TheMimiSard

    @TheMimiSard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Also Glenn again: "Now let me explain why."

  • @noelwade

    @noelwade

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would pay sooo much to have Glen stride into frame, strike a Gladiator pose with Shortbread in-hand, and shout "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED???" :-D

  • @etienneolivier
    @etienneolivier3 жыл бұрын

    I think what people don't seem to understand is that, it does take weeks sometimes months of qualitative research; going through old books and reading material. These keyboard warriors Google one thing In 5minutes and they call that "research" and seem to be and expert in said topic. 🤷🏼‍♂️ You can't win them all Glen. Great videos as always.

  • @lemonherb1

    @lemonherb1

    3 жыл бұрын

    The thing about these old books, is that most of them don't exist in digital form, so for these so called keyboard warriors those facts don't exist.

  • @kenmore01
    @kenmore013 жыл бұрын

    "I don't think we really need to talk about the one with margarine" 🤣 I LOVED that comment!

  • @jamesuthmann940

    @jamesuthmann940

    3 жыл бұрын

    The recipe that dare not speak its name!

  • @jackieknits61

    @jackieknits61

    Жыл бұрын

    At which point it thought of the neighbor kids I like to bake for who are lactose intolerant or vegan. I know the answer won't be traditional, but kids deserve good treats!

  • @tonyboloni64

    @tonyboloni64

    Жыл бұрын

    I wonder if the margarine version is for folks who found butter beyond the reach of their pocketbook?

  • @Wee_Morag
    @Wee_Morag3 жыл бұрын

    The Scottish recipe passed down in my family is flour, sugar, and butter, and by flour we mean whichever one is in the pantry.

  • @karenwaters3497

    @karenwaters3497

    3 жыл бұрын

    The good old 1,2,3 ratio shortbread. 💖

  • @vikkispence

    @vikkispence

    2 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely. My family recipe is 6-4-2, but that's exactly the same 😊 Just plain flour, no other flours

  • @paulbatz7935

    @paulbatz7935

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, no eggs in a true shortbread.

  • @paulbatz7935

    @paulbatz7935

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RamonaAnne Yeah, partly, but I also have an old article cut from Cuisine Magazine titled, My Father's Shortbread," a long memoir/history thing making similar claims while discussing the rice flour/cornstarch ratios Glenn presents. Glenn persuaded me though, and besides, I use a pie crust recipe containing an egg. It would be absurd to claim, "No true pie crust contains egg."

  • @lynnstevens7313

    @lynnstevens7313

    Жыл бұрын

    Same one in my family

  • @rebeccasunflower
    @rebeccasunflower3 жыл бұрын

    Whilst I'm not Scottish, I grew up eating Scottish shortbread containing rice flour here in Australia. I appreciated your history of the recipe and the ingredients, thanks Glen!

  • @stuartt455

    @stuartt455

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same, I don't think I've seen a recipe that didn't have rice flour in it.

  • @TheMimiSard

    @TheMimiSard

    3 жыл бұрын

    Word on that, my fellow countryfolk. I have read biscuit and cookie recipe books with rice flour in their shortbreads. More than likely, Women's Weekly books.

  • @juliettestofmeel

    @juliettestofmeel

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMimiSard hahaha yep same here and yes, from Women’s Weekly. Have never seen one with corn flour. 🤷🏼‍♀️

  • @PixieApples

    @PixieApples

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another Aussie here with another vote for rice flour

  • @traceybradshaw

    @traceybradshaw

    3 жыл бұрын

    Another Aussie here - I used to do occasional cooking classes for young mums about 20 years ago and one Christmas we did a few different recipes like coconut ice, fruit mince pies, rum balls, florentines and lastly shortbread, which included rice flour. I still remember an older lady who had been given a copy of the recipes I used, seeking me out and biting my head off over using rice flour - claimed she’d never heard of it being used in shortbread and “she was Scottish so she should know”. So the next week I showed her 3 or 4 recipes and left her to eat her hat!

  • @lucasgardner6189
    @lucasgardner61893 жыл бұрын

    Glen I wouldn't be opposed to more rants like this. The way you explained the history and the evolution of food in a certain region is exactly the sort of stuff that interests me. I hope you continue to add this sort of content to your channel. Have a great Sunday!

  • @lynnejamieson2063
    @lynnejamieson20633 жыл бұрын

    I am Scottish (born and brought up on The Firth of Clyde) and I can honestly say that I have seen recipes for shortbread that have a multitude of varying ingredients. I came to the conclusion years back, that although it is our most famous biscuit, each family probably had their own recipe and there were probably variations for special occasions (when more expensive ingredients would have been used). You do you Glen...after all, you are the one following a recipe that has probably been around longer than the people criticising it.

  • @MarderExplorer
    @MarderExplorer3 жыл бұрын

    I'm considering myself fortunate to live through a golden era of Glen & Friends cooking.

  • @xtsdagger6956
    @xtsdagger69563 жыл бұрын

    I am quite pleased that you gave us the history behind the ingredients, I think that part is even more valuable than the recipe. Knowing about where our food came from, when and why things are they way they are, very valuable. Thank you very much

  • @michaelreid8857

    @michaelreid8857

    3 жыл бұрын

    The difference between great cooks and mediocre cooks is, an immense understanding of the ingredients, of that food!

  • @angelapruitt
    @angelapruitt3 жыл бұрын

    I love that this is as angry as we will likely ever see Glenn. I also loved his wife’s final take - the way you like it is the right way for you. But it’s not the only right way. Thank you, Glenn. This was probably my faves of the hundreds of your videos I’ve watched!

  • @mjmj2613
    @mjmj26133 жыл бұрын

    As a historian, I love videos where you really delve into the historical side of things and how foods/recipes change over time. This video in particular led me to wonder about the impact of rationing on the switch from rice flour to corn. I did a little digging around and can verify that rice was rationed in Britain from the introduction of the points system in December 1941 and possibly as late as the abolition of that system in 1950. I didn't do exhaustive research, so I can't definitively state that corn flour/starch wasn't rationed at all during that time period as a "cereal product", but it isn't listed as one of the major groups of products for which rationing was introduced before 1941. In any case, corn flour/starch was recommended widely by various official and unofficial publications as a way to substitute for other rationed products (e.g. mixed with milk and butter for cream or used to partially substitute for flour) so awareness of it as a product would almost certainly have increased during this time period even if the process started with the earlier drop in price and rise in availability you mention in the video. Edit because I realized I forgot to cite Ina Zweiniger-Bargielowska's Austerity in Britain as a great source of info for this kind of thing.

  • @glabdo5000
    @glabdo50003 жыл бұрын

    I like ranty, Glen. Love your channel.

  • @bodhimcnally8168
    @bodhimcnally81683 жыл бұрын

    Could you make a video about finding your passion for food and your work in the film industry?

  • @michaelreid8857

    @michaelreid8857

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great idea, I’ve always felt there’s a great story attached to Glen, we’re not getting!

  • @McTAnGuS
    @McTAnGuS3 жыл бұрын

    As a Scot enjoying these recipes and the calm that glen has brought over the last 14 months to me. Whoever is emailing glen hate mail claiming to be Scottish. pipe doon and gee it a rest yer geeing us a bad name or bile yer heed. I can only say Glen the majority of us love the Scottish recipes.

  • @samuelsmith6281
    @samuelsmith62813 жыл бұрын

    Keep pulling out these recipes with the history behind them, I'm up for it.

  • @eindpsportsphotography1741
    @eindpsportsphotography17413 жыл бұрын

    Best rant I've heard for quite a while :) As one of those actual Scots, my only quibble would be the pronunciation of Tantallon, Tan-*tal*-on rather than Tant-alon. I was taught about Scotland's slave dealing past at school (I'm 57), yet during the recent BLM protests, younger Scots were surprised to discover that Glasgow's Jamaica Street was built from money made by "trade". -Rory-

  • @thomasrobertson4213

    @thomasrobertson4213

    3 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree, the pronunciation is ropey, but believe him about the rice flour!

  • @lynnecameron9976

    @lynnecameron9976

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes the emphasis is on the middle syllable (a 72 year old Scot here) Tan ‘tal Lon. I remember when I studied history in the 60s at school we learned of the slave trade and I always knew that certain cities (including Glasgow where I went to university) made their fortune from the slave and sugar trades. It was just a fact, not hidden but not over emphasised either.

  • @jjudy5869

    @jjudy5869

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@lynnecameron9976 Which is the way all history needs to be taught. It is, what it is.

  • @NRajah

    @NRajah

    3 жыл бұрын

    He's Canadian :-)

  • @galethompson3013

    @galethompson3013

    3 жыл бұрын

    There's a community near Halifax, N.S. called Tantallon. I've always heard it pronounced Tan-TAL-lon as well.

  • @TheSuzberry
    @TheSuzberry3 жыл бұрын

    This leaves ME with the question: “Why would anyone write Glenn an angry message?”

  • @ginnyweatherbee7941

    @ginnyweatherbee7941

    3 жыл бұрын

    Because people are unpleasant and like to argue

  • @bedetteb1111

    @bedetteb1111

    3 жыл бұрын

    Maybe they are jealous of glen’s knowledge.

  • @TamarLitvot

    @TamarLitvot

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had the same reaction! I enjoy him so much. Even if I disagreed with him (hasn’t happened yet), I would do it in a friendly way.

  • @mtorrisi42
    @mtorrisi423 жыл бұрын

    Today on Glen and Friends, Trolls skewered and roasted over high heat served with a delightful tea biscuit.

  • @kondition-kode-nine
    @kondition-kode-nine3 жыл бұрын

    My own introduction to traditional Scottish shortbread, via old Scottish's ladies, always had rice flour, because the crunchier texture made a better crumb important with such a short, fatty biscuit. Rice is grown in Europe too, of course in France and Italy. Forget the naysayers, they don't know. Your point regarding sugar and wheat is well made, over time many ingredients are substituted for so many reasons, and create 'new' traditions.

  • @doveandolive1153
    @doveandolive11533 жыл бұрын

    Love the history lesson brings more life to the foods we enjoy to eat. Glen's comment about margarine classic 'hilarious lol'!

  • @ketocanuckleheads4501
    @ketocanuckleheads45013 жыл бұрын

    the joy of the internet critic. My mother's shortbread (she's Irish mind you), which was passed down from her mother born in 1900, uses rice flour, Looks very much like your grandmothers. Note my mother came to Canada in 1970, and her mom never left Northern Ireland.

  • @jjudy5869

    @jjudy5869

    3 жыл бұрын

    "...and her mom never left Northern Ireland." Which means in all probability she was Scots or had a hefty dose of Scots coursing through her veins. A lot of Scots in the USA first migrated to Northern Ireland before they ended up on this continent.

  • @davechupp7922
    @davechupp79223 жыл бұрын

    Glen, I was fascinated by the history that you shared. Thank again for your effort and sharing.

  • @Tala_Masca
    @Tala_Masca3 жыл бұрын

    'The peope who disagree just don't know their food history' Hahaha! I just love how Glen can whoop some ass with back-up facts and cookbooks! With all the research and everthing still pulling 3/4 video's a week... A big thank you Glen!

  • @soberirish83
    @soberirish833 жыл бұрын

    I think we should complain about something else so we can get a history lesson on a different ingredient.

  • @dawnafromthenorth3732
    @dawnafromthenorth37323 жыл бұрын

    Greetings from Sudbury! That was the calmest, most composed rant I've witnessed :) Great job, once again. Stay well.

  • @BattlestarCanada
    @BattlestarCanada3 жыл бұрын

    Get ranty! Or like the coke episodes... great content!

  • @jsf4star891
    @jsf4star8913 жыл бұрын

    Great video and insight Glen. This reminds me of you Butter Tart series. My mother’s mother’s family is from British Columbia, and my aunt every Christmas makes butter tarts. I made some tarts with your recipe and gave some to my mom and aunt. Their response “That’s not how you make a butter tart.” Gotta love it.

  • @moonbeamchaos

    @moonbeamchaos

    3 жыл бұрын

    In your family, they were right.

  • @yellodragon
    @yellodragon3 жыл бұрын

    I am actually very curious about the movement of ingredients from the New World, so I found this to be highly enjoyable. Glen can do this all the time!

  • @Default78334
    @Default783343 жыл бұрын

    Speaking of food traditions, at this point, far more lutefisk is consumed by Americans and Canadians of Scandinavian descent who see it as an important part of their cultural heritage, than actual Scandinavians who largely stopped eating it because they are no longer poor.

  • @gabrieleghut1344

    @gabrieleghut1344

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hello from Germany. My mom made this about 3 to 4 times a year when I was a child in the 1960's/1970's and we all loved it. After the fishstore closed and the big supermarkets opened everywhere you couldn't find Lutefisk (Stockfisch in German) anywhere. Now when you want to buy it is not cheap and to make it you really need to know what you are doing. I had my last Lutefisk/Stockfisch in 1996 in a restaurant and it did cost.

  • @pengolodh

    @pengolodh

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gabrieleghut1344 Lutefisk is not an alternate name for stockfish, it is a dish that can be made from stockfish - air dried Atlantic cod, which is mostly produced in the Lofotens (where I live) in Norway, the coast of Finnmark region in Norway, and on Iceland - or klippfisk (salt dried cod). Making lutefisk is not the only way to cook stockfish - in Italy, for instance, there are thousands of different recipes for how to cook stockfish, there are other recipes used in Portugal, Nigeria, Cameroon, etc., and stockfish can even be eaten dry, if you first soften it with brute force. While lutefisk in Norway is mostly made from dried cod, in Sweden they prefer to make it from ling. Burbot or cusk can also be used. Preparing lutefisk from stockfish requires rehydrating the stockfish for several days in daily changed water, before pickling it in lye a couple of days, then returning it to soak in daily changed water for several days. It is then steamed, baked, or parboiled. And lutefisk is still a large part of Christmas traditions in in Norway, Sweden, and at least parts of Finland.

  • @JoelAAK
    @JoelAAK3 жыл бұрын

    Preach! Perhaps my favorite of your vlogs in regard to food history.

  • @GreenhornBonsai
    @GreenhornBonsai3 жыл бұрын

    That was a great episode! I love the history of recipes. My "classic" shortbread recipe came from Better Homes and Gardens cookbook my mother gave me in 1970: Wheat flour, sugar, and butter. Three ingredients. The butter is salted butter, that's sort of a fourth ingredient.

  • @zer0m0stel
    @zer0m0stel3 жыл бұрын

    You are feeding my addiction to good food and buying too many cookbooks. thank you. :)

  • @mrtnsnp
    @mrtnsnp3 жыл бұрын

    There is a nice one surrounding the siege of Leiden, in 1573 and 1574 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leiden). After the siege ended, the people of Leiden feasted on hutspot (carrot and onion stew) in the evening. These days that is made with potatoes, carrots, and onions, but the original probably used parsnips, carrot and onions. And the carrots probably weren't orange back then, but that is a whole different story. I've made it with parsnips, and it is really tasty.

  • @user1233002

    @user1233002

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wife & I are going to try that.

  • @collef1136
    @collef11362 жыл бұрын

    My Scottish grandmother’s recipe for shortbread uses rice flour!! This recipe came back from her mother in Scotland. My grandmother immigrated to Canada after the war. This is true and is a Christmas tradition in my family. No vanilla in our family recipe or lemon for that matter. I must say I love the rice flour I think it gives the shortbread a crispness that you don’t get with cornstarch

  • @Emmilythecat
    @Emmilythecat3 жыл бұрын

    Glenn, as you have said many times in many ways, traditional food is the way your family made it. That's what makes it traditional. Families from the same neighborhood all had their way of preparing traditional foods.

  • @BlackwaterPark4
    @BlackwaterPark43 жыл бұрын

    Glen just wrecked his haters while calmly making shortbread.... gotta love this guy

  • @zafforan
    @zafforan3 жыл бұрын

    thank you for your honesty - this video is a casing point as to how deeply integrated the horrific history of slavery is into "new world" and european culture

  • @oldage001
    @oldage0013 жыл бұрын

    Love the rant :)

  • @tdc1991x
    @tdc1991x3 жыл бұрын

    Scottish here - my gran's handwritten recipe book containing her mother's recipes has a shortbread recipe and it has rice flour (or ground rice as I believe the recipe calls it). My great grandmother was from Glasgow and born around 1900 - and I suspect the recipe was passed down from her mother and beyond.

  • @suew6264
    @suew62643 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the TRUE History lesson Glen. Now we Know. As a descendant of Scottish Heritage I appreciate the knowledge. I will be attempting new recipes with rice Four now!

  • @fylket123
    @fylket1233 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the combination of a recipe and a history lesson!

  • @fpoiana
    @fpoiana3 жыл бұрын

    That story of Scottish food was simply fabulous!! Thanks, Glen! I really enjoy it! Cheers from Argentina. Fede

  • @alexshadowfax1119
    @alexshadowfax11192 жыл бұрын

    Love love the old cookbook series, awesome how you present truth and facts regarding these recipes, not someone screaming on the internet that your wrong who has no idea of history. Thanks and have a great day everyone

  • @eldestisland4520
    @eldestisland45203 жыл бұрын

    I love Glen's open mind towards food history

  • @mattriddle7969
    @mattriddle79693 жыл бұрын

    I never comment on any videos I watch on KZread. Had to this time though. Glen is so knowledgable, I find myself caring less about what is being cooked and more about where it’s from and it’s back story. These are the only videos I religiously watch start to finish. Great job.

  • @Einungbrekke
    @Einungbrekke3 жыл бұрын

    I find it interesting that people can tell someone they are wrong when they have several cookbooks from the era the bakes from. If nothing else, Glen is always thorough, so I do trust him when he say something historical and he always reference what he say with documentation (a cookbook from the era is documentation, no matter what someone else must feel)

  • @kenyattaclay7666
    @kenyattaclay76663 жыл бұрын

    I honestly wouldn’t ever concern myself with people who proclaim something to not be “authentic.” I’ve traveled a fair amount in my life and I even lived in Germany for 3 1/2 years. I’m also from Chicago where, at least at one time when I was growing up, Chicago had the second largest Italian and Irish populations in the US. Chicago also had more Polish people than Warsaw and the Midwest between St. Louis and Milwaukee had the largest amount of people if German heritage. In my experience I learned two things, first, as people immigrated recipes always slightly changed to adapt to what they had available. Second, you can have two different grandmothers from the same village the prepare them same dish differently. The simple fact is “authentic” went out the window hundreds of years ago and when I was in Italy and Germany while the names of the dishes were the same they didn’t always taste the same as what I was used to. It wasn’t bad, it was just slightly different.

  • @joannesmith2484

    @joannesmith2484

    3 жыл бұрын

    Any Lidia Bastianich video that goes up is almost immediately swamped with outraged Italians ranting about how her recipes aren't "authentic" and the "real Italian" way is always oh so superior.🙄

  • @snitsch68

    @snitsch68

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is so true, when my father's oncle&his wife moved from Eastern France to Canada in the late 50's they were facing a cultural shock , if only in a culinary way. We recently found the 1st letters they had sent to me grand mother after settling around Montréal in which they were "complaining" that only salted butter was available in QC back then. I think that the word "authentic" is mainly overused when it comes to food and all sort of recipies to create a sort of tradition linked whith the "history" (often for commercial purposes)

  • @Default78334

    @Default78334

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@joannesmith2484 Yeah, lots of Italian-American cuisine is basically taking southern Italian dishes and adding more meat to them (because the Sicilian immigrants escaping poverty could afford it on a laborer's wage in the US) plus making some adaptations to locally available (from the perspective of the early 20th century) ingredients. You get something like the oft-derided spaghetti and meatballs because great-grandma could afford to use more meat after she moved to the US and she put them together with the spaghetti because great-grandpa only had a half-hour for lunch at the widget factory and couldn't do the whole leisurely five-course meal thing.

  • @floydhammond1461

    @floydhammond1461

    2 жыл бұрын

    I was an executive chef in a Greek restaurant and I know of at least 7 different authentic ways to make Baklava. It all depended on the region, the era and your economic status.

  • @raegilly
    @raegilly3 жыл бұрын

    This old scottish recipe series is truly bringing me so much joy and I'm loving learning about my food heritage! I've lived in Scotland my whole life and my Scottish granny just passed away in November and food was something that really connected us - my first memories of baking were sitting up on her counter top and helping stir some batter or another - and these videos are really helping me feel close to her again. Thanks Glen for putting so much care into your recipes and your videos these videos are just fantastic! If you have a chance, it's a super simple recipe, do you think you could look at "Drop Scones" or Scotch pancakes? My granny would make hundreds at a time and then my grandparents would have them buttered with every meal for the next few days - I'd love to know if these go at all far back in our history. p.s. The emphasis is on the "tall" bit of Tantallon :)

  • @georgiapeach7666
    @georgiapeach76663 жыл бұрын

    Loved "potato eaters are morally depraved..." Will you speak and bake on Scots oatcakes please? I hope so! I prefer rice flour in shortbread.

  • @davemartin2493
    @davemartin24933 жыл бұрын

    That was the most exquisitely polite "shut the heck up and do your research" I have ever seen. Excellent work, keep them coming.

  • @Angel9573
    @Angel95733 жыл бұрын

    I love getting a history lesson with cooking videos! My two of my favorite subjects.

  • @kathleenkenkel8877
    @kathleenkenkel88773 жыл бұрын

    I love your drives into old recipes and the history that surrounds food. Intelligent discourse is so rare and therefore more appreciated.

  • @hthrb456
    @hthrb4563 жыл бұрын

    you tell em Glenn! we've had rice flour in our shortbread for generations. many of my big celtic family can't digest corn anyway.

  • @applegal3058
    @applegal30583 жыл бұрын

    I wish my history teacher was as interesting as you! Relate everything to food and I'd be interested lol

  • @applegal3058

    @applegal3058

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, and shortbread has always been the recipe found on the back of the Canadian cornstarch box lol no history for us lol

  • @GlenAndFriendsCooking

    @GlenAndFriendsCooking

    3 жыл бұрын

    True - edible Corn Starch / Corn Flour was invented in the 1850s and they marketed heavily to get cooks to use it.

  • @applegal3058

    @applegal3058

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@GlenAndFriendsCooking oh yes, food marketing is an interesting subject.

  • @iv8976
    @iv89763 жыл бұрын

    You should do a series about the history of food. I love how you talked about how rice was imported and when it started being grown etc

  • @ewoljn
    @ewoljn2 жыл бұрын

    Glen's lectures on food history are so interesting

  • @raulmaldonado6026
    @raulmaldonado60263 жыл бұрын

    The trouble with this video is it makes me hope people keep trying to ruffle Glen's feathers so that we get more of these cultural and historical breakdowns.

  • @ptjzmemory
    @ptjzmemory3 жыл бұрын

    I love your food history lessons. I think that you and Julie are pretty terrific too.

  • @billmeldrum2509
    @billmeldrum25093 жыл бұрын

    Great episode. I’ve got nothing but respect for you thorough research on the subject matter. You must have been an academic at some point in your life? Loving your channel. 🇨🇦

  • @lenalyles2712
    @lenalyles27123 жыл бұрын

    I was very lucky to have two great great grandmother's that both lived to be over 100 one was from England and one from Wales, plus great grandmother's and grandmother's that lived into their late 90s. I absolutely love all the old recipes. My mother and aunt gathered all the old cookbooks and made all of us kids copies. I copied mine and passed on to children and hope our kids pass them on too. It fun to set and read them.

  • @SmallWonda
    @SmallWonda3 жыл бұрын

    This is the argument for teaching HISTORY in schools - along with COOKING, and I think geology! People would then have a great foundation on which to form educated arguments. Thanks for your excellent informative and fun cooking videos. (Don't forget - they wouldn't have had electric mixers back in the day & no doubt are still a luxury option for some!) Keep safe & spreading the Good Word! 👍🦘🐾🥐

  • @vickiekostecki
    @vickiekostecki3 жыл бұрын

    You tell 'em Glen. Your historical stuff ( all your stuff really) is incredibly well researched and I frequently recommend your videos to anyone interested in food history.

  • @alanblott4559
    @alanblott45593 жыл бұрын

    Change is the only constant. Great video. Love the history lesson.

  • @Jeffffrey0902
    @Jeffffrey09023 жыл бұрын

    It's really interesting for me, an Asian, to know that the Scottish have been using rice flour for centuries.

  • @minermortal1997

    @minermortal1997

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don’t think people realise just how long global trade has been going on Europe and Asia have been trading for centuries people seem to think it’s some kinda new thing.

  • @moonbeamchaos

    @moonbeamchaos

    3 жыл бұрын

    True, but he did say that the rice in England and Scotland was coming from England’s colony in the Carolinas, not Asia.

  • @boooabdooo
    @boooabdooo3 жыл бұрын

    Every video is interesting, i like how we get to know how food transform and connect a lot of eras and people. also, i only try recipes i see here because you make it look easy and relaxing. Cheers.

  • @grahamrankin4725
    @grahamrankin47253 жыл бұрын

    "The only one way to do it" reminds me of the scene in "A Year in Provance" where everyone in the butcher shop argues about how a cassoulet recipe.

  • @Silent002
    @Silent0023 жыл бұрын

    That was a great history lesson, Glen! I love watching the Old Cookbook Show for your insights.

  • @MrAlFuture
    @MrAlFuture3 жыл бұрын

    This is fascinating. Here in Australia, atleast back in the 1980s & 90s when I was a kid and when my Nan made shortbread, the only reason most people would buy rice flour was to bake shortbread. In fact the recipe everyone used was the one on the side of the rice flour box. I'm loving the culinary anthropology, Glen! Thanks :)

  • @s4098429
    @s40984293 жыл бұрын

    Stay strong Glen, don’t let the ignorance of the internet wear you down! I’m pretty sure my grandma made shortbread with rice flour to.

  • @Erin-lw7gp
    @Erin-lw7gp3 жыл бұрын

    I love this! My Scottish Great-Grandmother also used rice flour in her shortbread recipe, and I still make them the same every year at Christmas. I find it interesting that the use of rice flour continued in North America when it would have presumably been easier to find corn starch here. I know that I have had to search multiple grocery stores all over town in years past to find rice flour, and often only found it in bulk or specialty shops, but now with the prevalence of gluten free and other diets, it's easier to find in store.

  • @chakagomez8129

    @chakagomez8129

    Жыл бұрын

    Here in so Calif I can always find rice flour in the Mexican food section

  • @llchapman1234
    @llchapman12343 жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see how recipes, like languages, evolve over time.

  • @christinad3757
    @christinad37573 жыл бұрын

    Best rant ever. Thanks for educating us Glen. I wonder how Rick Mercer would’ve handled it. Now I can get on with my day. All the best Glen 🇨🇦

  • @rickm5271
    @rickm52713 жыл бұрын

    Glenn, thank you for you historical analysis. I truly love it and I get a vicarious feeling of satisfaction when you school the belligerently ignorant! Way to go!

  • @Huemongous
    @Huemongous3 жыл бұрын

    Love the extra bits of history on these recipes. Great episode again Glen thanks for all :)

  • @herbrand47
    @herbrand473 жыл бұрын

    A good cooking and history lesson combined.

  • @nicoleturgeon-courchesne2212
    @nicoleturgeon-courchesne22123 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely adore all the research and history in your videos Glen. Thank you so much for enlightening and educating my culinary voyages!

  • @Ottawa411
    @Ottawa4113 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the history lesson. That's very informative and entertaining. I've been caught off guard numerous times about foods that are "traditional" turning out not to be traditional at all.

  • @nickjoeb
    @nickjoeb3 жыл бұрын

    This episode had such a fun story attached. I wasn't terribly interested in the featured food but glad I watched!

  • @haroldheia7949
    @haroldheia79492 жыл бұрын

    Bingo! Rice flour IS in Scottish Shortbread! Isabelle McDonald, from Inverness Scotland, by way of Canada, to Seattle, WA. DID use rice flour in her shortbread. No eggs, leavening, or milk, or zest. She used fine sugar. Plain but good. I just made some for Christmas. She had a 5 Roses Flour cookbook, circa 1915. We still have her book! Love it. Thank you for your food history.

  • @gabriellew6467
    @gabriellew64674 ай бұрын

    Delicious recipes and interesting trips back into the culinary past: only at Glen's! ❤

  • @strahd1969
    @strahd19693 жыл бұрын

    really like your history lessons. Keep doing them. Haters going to hate. Love your videos. Keep doing them!

  • @tammyr2966
    @tammyr29663 жыл бұрын

    Love getting all the history with a good recipe!

  • @NRajah
    @NRajah3 жыл бұрын

    I love the history you give us on Sunday mornings. I agree, all family traditions engender what you like and hence what is "correct". Point of order on sugar though, it was a European product way back but from sugar beet. Way more expensive than cane sugar though. I think you can still get it too.

  • @karenmahaffey1473
    @karenmahaffey14733 жыл бұрын

    So refreshingly honest! Elevates my understanding every time I watch an episode. Much appreciated!

  • @chinooksam1
    @chinooksam13 жыл бұрын

    Completely owned the naysayers! Keep up the good work Glen!

  • @deletesoon70
    @deletesoon703 жыл бұрын

    Loved the nod to change. All of those changes came as the product of willful consensus, based on natural truths, and gradually. And how important is that in the here and now.

  • @Moon-fv5sz
    @Moon-fv5sz2 жыл бұрын

    I so enjoy your history in cooking and baking 😃👍.

  • @m2hmghb
    @m2hmghb3 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy the history lessons with the cooking recipes. I've made some recipes from the WW1/WW2 eras where there is rationing involved. Somehow the history makes the final product that much more enjoyable - knowing your ancestors may have eaten the same thing.

  • @joannepeterson7896
    @joannepeterson78963 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate the food history you teach while you cook. I know you do your research. I really enjoy the food you prepare as well.

  • @conorc725
    @conorc7253 жыл бұрын

    I am Scottish! Writing this from Angus, on the east coast of Scotland. I loved the shortbread recipe video and I am disappointed that fellow Scots would give you a hard time like that!

  • @Redhotcook
    @Redhotcook3 жыл бұрын

    Love glens comment from 15.00 basically make it like you like it 👏👏👏👏👏. Cooking & baking is about adding your own bit of extra that works for you and your family no matter what country you live in.

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