17+ Hp Mini Bike!!! ~ Tillotson 225cc & Juggernaut CVT Pulley
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Today we get Mrs. RB's TrailMaster MB200 mini bike in the shop for a make over. We install the Tillotson 225cc engine coupled with the new Juggernaut cvt pulley from Go Power Sports!!! Please let us know what you think by commenting below. Don't forget to like, subscribe and share...
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Dear Red Beard Garage Team. You all are doing a great job. We love your builds and your rides. Congratulations on your new garage and property. We really liked the extra scenes in this video. Good job everyone.
I for one have missed the riding videos. that was the best part. you building something and then taking it for a ride. gave me good insight into which upgrades were really worth it for the type of riding i like doing.
If you could forever do an engine breakdown like that I will forever love this channel that much more
I personally like the ride videos. testing somthings' performance after you built it is one of the best parts of the job i think. keep up the good work my dude. Love the content.
I love the way you start breaking it down,sounds so nostalgic ❤❤❤❤
Go Mrs. Redbeard!!!! Kudos! Looks like you are very proficient with mechanics. Keep it up!
Very cool that bike looks like it has a lil bit of get up and go awesome work red Beard super cool
Love the game show announcements ,had me balln😁
Glad Mini Bike Monday is back.
The 90s theme throughout warms the cockles of my heart.
That engine sounds amazing in this video!
Great work man love the videos
Youre a lucky man sir. To have a wife that will even hang in the garage with you is rare. Thumbs up. and Go go Mrs Red Beard. Props to you!
@RedBeardsGarage
4 жыл бұрын
She's an amazing woman that's for sure!!!
Man, look how far you've come!
Freaking cool the Mrs getting in too
Boy did that engine sound good. Wow.
New shop is looking shick!🤘🏻
I’m getting one for my super fast mini dune buggy.great video.
Awesome video 🤘🏻🐿🤘🏻way to go Mrs. Redbeard 🤘🏻🐿🤘🏻
This is exactly the build I’m looking to do, thanks for the video
@RedBeardsGarage
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@woodya08
Жыл бұрын
Do these 225 tilly come with or accept electric start? Is a different pull start cover needed when adding aftermarket electric start?
That engine sounds great! You could hear the rpm's go way up across the field, too.
Why would anyone be upset calling it what it is? It's a torque converter! Just like a lot of old snow mobiles! Back in the day we called them snow mobile clutches! Great video and ignore the haters...Just keep on keeping on!! Namaste!
If those are sealed bearings on that jack shaft take the seal out of the backsides that go to the inside and they will be greased all the time after you put a grease fitting to it. Same thing on your lawn mower deck pulley bearings.
I love mini bike Monday 😎👍
That bike gets going.
We want more minibike videos!
I absolutely love the juggernaut. Some people say they are afraid of putting it on something heavy, like a go-kart, but my kart is about 200 pounds and with a stage 4 predator if you hammer the throttle at any speed, the tires instantly spin and if they're hot it wheelies, something the stock pulley couldn't do. Great video and God bless.
@RedBeardsGarage
4 жыл бұрын
We love it!
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
I love it on my heavily built motor too.
You're the man
Wow it's 9PM here and I need my sun glasses lol
Sweet
Awesome sauce
OMG PLEASE BUILD ONE OF THOSE DEUCES! And keep uploading riding videos I enjoy them
@RedBeardsGarage
4 жыл бұрын
We have some good Deuce video's coming soon sir
@justlive56
4 жыл бұрын
@@RedBeardsGarage awesome! Thanks, the deuce is my favorite go kart.
Love your channel!! I just got the tillotson performance engine for my Coleman bt200uex and wondering can I use the stock fuel tank from that engine for the new one? Just ordered the engine today and didn’t think about that part til 8 hours later😅
Hey Red beard what type of coil pack did you run on this engine? Did you run the 6500 rpm one or did you have an alternative without a limiter??? Thanks
Contemplating buying a 225 tollitson for my mega motto 212
pretty cool build, I can see you getting an old BW350 frame and put a 450 or 500cc air cooled in it you will be happy ;)
I have tightened my side cover bolts on my ducar 212 to 17ft lbs and it spun a couple of them. What do you suggest to do so it doesn’t leak?
I just want to say I like your channel it's awesome I've learned a few things about my coleman go-kart and mini bike I still was shocked at the power the improvements gave thanks and keep it up 👍
Lmfao!!!!!! Loving the price is right voice over!!!! Crackin up!!
Hello , great content ... Is this the 225 rs long block ?? If so , do you know if a DC PVL FW flywheel would work ? Its the aluminum unpolished , with a steel core . Ive got it on the predator 224 at the moment . Thanks
Hey Red Beard, question. i have a 340 clone with a twister cam, a +.040" arc rod header with a small slip on like you did on one of your builds and a performance filter. i had the shaft cut to 3/4 due to it coming off a generator. the question i have is do you think the juggernaut will hold up to it? its going on my streaker with 18" golf cart slicks on the rear 6:1 ratio.
Great video guys! Love the new cvt looks like just what I need. Going to install on my old xr 100 frame . She ought to scoot! Thanks for your hard work! Godbless
Yep there's the new head mechanic of the old red beard garage
fire vid
So why did build break repeat see very little gain with their new pully? I thought that would allow more top end speed too.
What tooth setup are you running? I have the jug and am still getting slip on the belt. I dont understand what the issue is!
Is there a certain start up procedure for this motor? I just got one a few weeks ago it is really hard to get to turn over. Ive tried a mikuni 22. A nibbi 28. Hell I even have a 24 mm flatslide on the way as well my arm feels like it’s about to fall off lol
Do you recommend the juggernaut from go power sports
Tell me now that you’ve owned the Juggernaut for a while, how is it on the belts do you have issues, with them snapping?
Where did you get that mount for the rear pulley on the torque converter
Wich engine is the best a tillotson 212, predator 212cc or a honda gx200?
Making the Mrs. go to work. You are a ATUD!
Whats the main reason people dont use centrifugal dry clutches where the engine sprocket is attached to the clutch drum? We use them in professional racing go karts for 2 strokes that produce 25-40 hp and they work perfectly. These cv clutches just add weight or is there a good reason there used?
@Deucealive75
3 жыл бұрын
Variable gearing is why people like them. Starts at about 2.7/1 then when the belt fully shifts it's .9/1 (overdrive) using a stock 30 series. There is smoother power delivery, better low end and higher top speed.
You got a header that will fit the bt200x for me
I put the Juggernaut on my coleman Ct200uex with a predator 212 in it. The engine has the governor bypassed and the juggernaut has way less power and torque then my torque converter. When the belt is on the juggernaut it looks like it has a huge gap between the juggernaut and the plate. Do you know what could be the cause of lack of power? The predator engine is a hemi and does not have a stage 1 kit on it...I top out around 25 mph with the torque converter and with the juggernaut i top out around 12-14 mph...
What CVT unit do you recommend for an engine that makes about 20HP and turns 9200 RPM? I’ve got an old Briggs open flathead (.200 stroker), I’m thinking about putting on a mini bike.
@arigato.collect
2 жыл бұрын
the same one hes using works great. i got it on a 15 hp briggs animal and it zooms
Do you have a good replacement belt for the Comet TAV2 Torq-A-Verter 30 series asymmetrical belts? I'm talking about something other than the factory stock Comet belts that will hold up to 18+ HP, because my Tillotson 225cc Performance Engine has 18.386 HP, and my belt has started slipping, so I'm not sure if oil got on the belt when my side cover seal got damaged and leaked oil into the belt causing it to slip, or if maybe the Juggernaut with the stock Comet driven pully's not holding up. I'm trying to figure out which is the problem, I sprayed brake cleaner on the belt, which cleared it up for about 4 miles, then it started slipping again so badly that I couldn't get it to hardly move. Well, I just bought a new Comet stock belt to see if this fixes the problem, hopefully it will. But I've seen videos where people have changed the driven pully's springs, so I don't know if the spring might need to be changed or not, it still has the stock spring on it, which I believe is red. Thanks
Will the Juggernaut work on a stock trailmaster mb200? I just picked up a used one that was practically new, but not liking the clutch rattle and it will sometimes even squeal. Otherwise it runs great. Thanks, and great videos!
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
Sorta. Build the engine. Cam, carb, compression, flywheel, rod valvesprings and then bolt it on. JMO. I wouldn't run one on a stock engine. No way
God bless up too
Redbeard, would a jugg be good on a Tillotson 212?
Look at the lady Red Beard getting work done.
I bought a 225 also I'm having trouble with keeping it running after I give it gas. It idols down but wants to quit. I dont know anything about these slide carbs.
Are you able to put a predator on a Coleman camouflage bike without adding a torque converter
My favorite part was the tv style information about the parts.
Hey I just sub. Love vid. Hey I would love to see you guys try ad HP to those Bicycles engines that people put on there regularly bicycle. Redbead Thumb Up 👍 to your family and team
I have a 212 stage 1 predator that I order from Go power sport and my go-kart, and I have a $90 torque converter from eBay, and I bought the 30 series torque converter with the juggernaut for $199 from Go power sports, and my car lost power and lots of speed. I went back to the regular sheep torque converter and got my torque and speed back. It was disappointing but then I don't know if I did something wrong.
@TheShangralaaaa17
4 жыл бұрын
My baja is the same way. Installed a juggernaut and its slower and the belt just slips when hittinfg full throttle
@jorgegonzales878
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheShangralaaaa17 is there anything that can be done to the juggernaut to get better torque from it?
Thanks so much for putting the big pod filter on the carb,(how it's supposed to be) I don't understand why ppl use that iddy bitty cone one 😂😂
@drewanderson8279
4 жыл бұрын
When I got my 225 it just came with the small one. I need to fine a was to adapt the large one to the mikuni
@bighomieJ5X
4 жыл бұрын
@@drewanderson8279 I never understood why it came with that lil filter, the engine clearly needs more air .🤷🏽♂️
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
@@bighomieJ5X I tried one one time. Restricted the air absurdly on a built 212.
@bighomieJ5X
4 жыл бұрын
@@eyeballengineering7007 with the small cone filter?
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
@@bighomieJ5X Yeah. Not even the tiny one. The one that's like 3" along. It was horrible. Probably fine on a stock, governed engine though
What are the wheels on the red bike ? Looks like 10 inches,..I need those for my custom built badass minibike with the Tilly 228cc,..just like that one ,..but 228R ..72mm bore 56mm stroke=228...I haven't changed over from the old 212 predator yet,..need taller wider wheels like those,..please tell where and what kind !!
Red beard really needing some advice needing the best parts for torque in a 212
Does that Juggernaut hold up to that much power how's it holding up is it lasting
Is their any advantage using a belt over a chain
Does the jugernot parts bomb you like a 30 or 40 TC? I spot weld the nut to the engine to the dish slide.
@briannicolai9276
3 жыл бұрын
Bolt*
I want to see you race something with that 220 Kawasaki you built for you daughter lol love your channel
@RedBeardsGarage
4 жыл бұрын
We will do a whole video on some racing this weekend just for you sir
I wanna get a juggernaut for my 212 pocket rocket it already dose 54mph
@froggersgarage5127
4 жыл бұрын
I didnt think i would get a heart thank you and good bless
Likes for the lady tech go Mrs.Redbeard !!!
I have a CT200U mini bike but I want to find a small V-twin engine to fit on it
@regularpit1508
4 жыл бұрын
I have a one cylinder 14 horsepower motor and I wondered about it
What did the bike top out at ???
I figure this was shot before Covid-19 outbreak in US>I hope it don't interfere withj meet up.
I just got the 225 for my drift trike Nd I'm having trouble with the 24mm mikuni when I go off road it seams to want to die. If I'm on the road she will run great until I come to a stop it wants to die. Is there just the one screq adjustment on that carb.?
@drewanderson8279
4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the pulse pump I'm using is too much. When I try to start it some fuel splashed out the air filter
I need the same gas tank. What model Harley so I can search for it?
@mrs.redbeard4718
4 жыл бұрын
It's linked in the video description.
@tycoonbob
4 жыл бұрын
@@mrs.redbeard4718 Where any modifications needed to make it work, or did it bolt right up to that top frame bar?
this or a stage 2 predator? does this thing have as much torque as a predator?
Can you use the Juggernaut on Big Blocks???
You had the belt upside down?
Could I pay you guys to make a tillitson 225 ride ready ? Where i can mount and go.
Fast talking disclaimer on the end of next product ad offer? U dudes are getting TV funny.
Awesome.Second sight today,that I received notice 17 mins after posted,and was 43rd Like.
Which one is better the Tillotson 212 or the 225, and which one would give me more speed for my Coleman CT200U-EX? Also, how fast do you think the Tillotson 212 cc with the stage 3? Also, should I get a 22mm or 24mm Mikuni carburetor, and will it make it? One other thing, why are you not longer using go power sports??? Will I be making a mistake buying from them??? I want the stage 3 Tillotson 212 cc, and they were the only one who has the stage 3 Tillotson 212 cc engines.
@RedBeardsGarage
3 жыл бұрын
225 and 24mm carb
@roypatterson9910
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedBeardsGarage so do you think that the 225 Tillotson with a 24 Mikuni carb will give me more speed than a Tillotson 212 stage 3 with a 24 Mikuni flat side carb? The one guy at go power sports told me that the Tillotson 212 stage 3 isn't no joke, that it should give me a top speed of more like 70 when I asked him how fast does he think it would go, like 50, that's when he said, no, more like 70 mph! I said, no, really, he said yes! I mentioned you and Cars and Cameras, they said that you don't deal with them anymore, which I didn't ask why, but they said that John and Issac are their buddies. So, who do you deal with now? I just don't want to buy shit from go power sports if they're not good to deal with, you know, because I'm Disabled and can't work anymore, I haven't been able to work since 2008 and my money is very limited, I just sold a bunch of my sports cards to get the money to buy a new engine and other things I want, so I don't want to take any chances of getting screwed on $1,500, you know! Google says that the majority of go power sports customers are dissatisfied, which kinda makes me feel like I shouldn't deal with them, but they're the only ones who I've found that has the Tillotson 212 stage 3 engine, and the Juggernaut Torque Converter kit. That's another thing, they show that the Juggernaut Torque Converter kit is only for engines 3-7 hp, and then they sell which I believe is their Juggernaut that's sold separately as just like Juggernaut itself, so I'm not going to pay $189 for the one Juggernaut kit and then pay another $119 for the Juggernaut itself, which is rated for engines up to 18 hp, which is what I would need for the Tillotson 212 stage 3 engine. Thanks. Sorry so long, but I had to explain everything, because I want to know what's the best way for me to go.
@roypatterson9910
3 жыл бұрын
@@RedBeardsGarage I just bought the 225cc Tillotson Performance engine with the 28 mm Mikuni carb. They said that the 28 mm flat-side carb will work great wtith that engine, so I can't wait to see how much faster it's going to be!
@roypatterson9910
3 жыл бұрын
I wind up getting the 225cc Tillotson Racing engine with the 24mm flat-side Mikuni carburetor, and I just finished installing everything with the juggernaut, and I tell you what, damn this bitch is FAST!!!!! It's so hard to keep the front end down because it keeps popping wheelies! But it's hard to get started, it takes 5 to 12 pulls to get it started, then you have to open the throttle just a little bit while you are pulling it, if you don't, then it won't start.
@BonFiredUp1
Жыл бұрын
@@roypatterson9910 i bought 2 of these from GPS & mine are hard to start as well even when hot you have to choke them
Next year just drain the bowl and put some Klotz in the carb been doing it for years with now issue
Ahhh! My eyes! 15:00-end 😆
No fair! The 225's are out of stock
@drewanderson8279
4 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine a month ago and man is it badass
@sifisomasina1164
4 жыл бұрын
@@drewanderson8279 i have 223cc
@johndough4338
4 жыл бұрын
@@drewanderson8279 ...how is that engine holding up friend?
Keihin makes a better carb or go lectron carb
Hey guys, I built my 196 out with 22# springs, ARC rod, PVL flywheel, 8 degree key, CS grind core cam, billet intake, shorty pipe, Autolite plug, Tillotson PK-1b and a TAV 30. It gets up to speed fast and then feels like it starts to wind out , acceleration decreases and torque drops but the RPMs are still high and the motor should be pulling. I left the stock jets in the PK-1B, is this a starving thing? I'm running stock gears and the TAV 30 is on factory settings. I'm guessing this thing is capable of 7000 RPM and around the 15hp neighborhood, someone else recommended the Juggernaut but I don't think that will help top end pull. It already wheelies and launches hard. Also, it sounds like a two stroke made sweet greasy love to a four stroke and birthed a beautiful baby beast that scares most women and small children.
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
It's perfect for that and will get it in the right rpm to pull higher.
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
What happens is the driver pulley keeps pinching on the belt even though the secondary pulley is maxed out. This creates loads of friction on the belt as the pulley tension increases. This happens on a stock tav 30. You can buy a spacer that stops the pulley at a certain point, but it's a bandaid where this is a bionic arm. I run a similar engine and it's great.
Are they the 225 and 212 the same size beside displacement?
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
I wish I had a tillotson 228
Was the belt (5:00) flipped?
@RedBeardsGarage
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah when they get that wore out they will spin under power
I had no idea that the driver on a cvt was limiting my engine Rpms. I thought my bike just doesn’t have the power. I have stage one kit, governor bypass and a 30 series on my warrior. Hit 49 before having to slow down. So if I were to add a cam, springs and carb would it still not be able to pass 4300-4500 rpms?
How does this torque convertor let the engine rev higher than the original?
@mikenordby2866
4 жыл бұрын
I think he's referring to the rpms at the time that it shifts. 2,000 rpm higher shift point. Allowing more rpm in low range. Longer power band. More tork at shift point. Hope this helps.
@mickeywest4163
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikenordby2866 OK. Weights and springs have been changed to increase lockup rpms, correct?
Just put this engine on my Coleman Does it really need a fuel pump. Gonna be pissed if it does cuz I spent the last 2 hours putting this in
So my gx200 turns 8500 rpm and your saying that the juggernaut pulley will limit my motor to 6500rpm
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
No. It's rated to 8500 rpm. I have personally run mine that high. It works awesome for a built engine.
@larrycoleman8298
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. eyeball engineering it would be going on my mini drag bike so I don't want to lose any rpms
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
@@larrycoleman8298 You won't. Mine hits 6500 under hard acceleration without slipping the belt. Third hole on the secondary spring
@eyeballengineering7007
4 жыл бұрын
@@larrycoleman8298 Hits 8300 rpm at max speed
@larrycoleman8298
4 жыл бұрын
@@eyeballengineering7007 thanks I ordered one
Hey @redbeard, I know you are super busy, but I have a serious question to ask about go carts or mini bikes . Either because both use a certin product I have the question about. Please hit me up if you are ready for a head scratching question. It may just change the game o. Building carts.