16mm OR Super 8 : Which is right for you?

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Today we are going to take a look at the world of motion picture film and dive into the differences between the formats and will be answering the question which format is right for you! We also dive into out to shoot on super 8 and on super 16.
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  • @Folly_Inds
    @Folly_Inds11 ай бұрын

    Me watching at 360p on my mobile phone: "hmm yes, this 2K footage is simply not going to cut it. we need more resolution"

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol. MORE!!!! BIGGER

  • @ioanandrei8814

    @ioanandrei8814

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashesat least 12k!!!!

  • @MacKingG

    @MacKingG

    10 ай бұрын

    That's not unreasonable, it's just futureproofing. I mean, how are you supposed to watch it on your 12k Imax VR 10 years from now?!

  • @Folly_Inds

    @Folly_Inds

    10 ай бұрын

    we do already have an 8k vr headset ">_> future might not be that far off. @@MacKingG

  • @MacKingG

    @MacKingG

    10 ай бұрын

    Well hot diggity! I could've watched Oppenheimer on it instead of a crowded theater. @Folly_Inds

  • @danncorbit3623
    @danncorbit362311 ай бұрын

    My best friend and his brothers made a cool super-8 movie in the 70s. They sat on the ground and held invisible steering wheels. They would shoot a few frames, scoot ahead a couple feet, and shoot a few frames. Repeating this process, they made a whole race with imaginary race cars. When you see something like that while you are in grade school, it's pure magic.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I love that ❤️

  • @mikejankowski6321

    @mikejankowski6321

    11 ай бұрын

    That concept was used in an actual TV commercial way back when. I think it was for auto insurance but it could have been for car rentals. They even had a "bus" in it. Hysterical!

  • @Lauren_C
    @Lauren_C11 ай бұрын

    I definitely love it when an old sitcom is shot on 16mm. Rescanned for modern TVs, they look so much better, that it’s kind of hard to believe they were shot in the 80’s or 90’s.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh my it’s glorious!!!! So much inherent resolution it’s just the technology wasn’t there for our celluloid love yet lol

  • @TinLeadHammer

    @TinLeadHammer

    3 ай бұрын

    Indeed, like "Scrubs" shot on a 16-mm and protected for 16:9 looks great, although 25 years ago 16-mm was not considered good enough for HD.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    3 ай бұрын

    But until they rescan that shit!!!! :)

  • @meowzymcdirmit
    @meowzymcdirmit11 ай бұрын

    I shot with Super 8 for the first and only time last year while on vacation. It was so fun just to hear the sound of the camera in motion and loved the imperfect results I got back from the lab. I just wish it weren't so prohibitively expensive to get into and I feel bad for my camera that sits in a drawer :(

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah I totally get all of that for sure.

  • @geralddepinakokra

    @geralddepinakokra

    7 ай бұрын

    send it to me ill put it to use 😆

  • @MacKingG
    @MacKingG10 ай бұрын

    Dude, this is one of your best videos ever! Feels like you found your style and cadence. Fast paced suits you well! Bravo!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Aw thanks thanks thanks 😊 ❤️🤩

  • @haimtoeg
    @haimtoeg11 ай бұрын

    I shoot stills and have no intention of shooting motion pictures, but this was very informative and well done. Thank you.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Aw thanks and I totally get it ☺️

  • @JonKurtz
    @JonKurtz11 ай бұрын

    Nice vid Caleb! I picked up a Minolta XL-400 last year and my wife uses it more than I do, hah. It gives our travel home movies that warm dream like feel. Definitely going to use The Negative Space next time for developing too. Love your channel dude!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Sick!!!! That’s awesome. I hope you have fun. It’s such a dope way to capture memories .

  • @spencerbacon
    @spencerbacon11 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for mentioning negative space! That’s the best price I’ve seen in a while, I will definitely use them for next time I send some film out!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah!!!!!!!

  • @mmuzzwell3654
    @mmuzzwell3654Ай бұрын

    A bit of feedback. I have a background in (off-on line editing) moved on to non-linear digital editing at the dawn of this transition. We had the first generation of Sony mini DV and DV cameras,. We obviously had pro tool software and hardware to process (AVID). For one of my directors I took his old super 8 films and projected them and used the digital cameras to feed through to the Hard drives. This can achieve very good results and was at the time pretty much how the pro tele-cine xfer companies processed 16 and 35mm prints (but they had a very expensive machine for this). I can only imagine this has gotten easier. Film to digital tape grading used to be done the same way. Basically the film print would get a "one light pass" given a timecode get transferred to tape, we would edit that, the EDL (edit decision list) would get sent to the Tele-cine operators and we would then grade the xfer of the final cut to be used in the post production edit., usually commercials shot on super 16. This was the most efficient way to control film. Probably still done the same but more emphasis on digital light/contrast/saturation manipulation.

  • @Shmooexe3440
    @Shmooexe344011 ай бұрын

    Thanks Caleb for yet another very informative video!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    🤙🏼👍🏼🤟🏼🙌🏼

  • @marco_renard
    @marco_renard11 ай бұрын

    First of, I really enjoyed the motion design (coupled with that lovely sound design too) of this episode ! That was really neat! But most of all, I will not tolerate any Eclair slander 😤

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Hahahahahahahahahahahaha I’m glad you at least like the rest of the video 🤪

  • @user-cd8ri1mc6s

    @user-cd8ri1mc6s

    11 ай бұрын

    I also won't accept Leicina slander, nor Bealieau, or Canon Scoopic slander. Add to this list Bolex.

  • @Minolta_Gal
    @Minolta_Gal11 ай бұрын

    Very cool. Love the vintage look of film like this.

  • @johnwalbolt
    @johnwalbolt3 ай бұрын

    Thanks for making this and sharing

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    3 ай бұрын

    Totally :)

  • @dalemettee1147
    @dalemettee11474 ай бұрын

    When I decided to get into filming, everyone that I knew went for the middle of the road point and shoot cameras a round $100. Me, oh no. I had to get the best one. The Bolex S155 model around $350 to $400. I like the fact that you had to adjust everything, well almost everything by hand. Besides, you do so much more with this camera. Focus disolves, swipes, even write on a piece of clear plastic for signs to focus thru. Several things that bothered me was the fact that you had to use external light indoors or at night. The other was the fact that the cartridge only lasted about 3 min's. So you had to bring a bunch of them. The last thing was no sound. I tried to matchup the sound with a recorder but it just got too crazy. Then along came video tape. I went with Beta. A "portable" system was VERY cumbersome. All of the stuff had to bring along was worth it at the end. Not only did you get play back right away but sound with it. Still a little light insenstative.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    4 ай бұрын

    🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

  • @jdsd771007
    @jdsd77100711 ай бұрын

    Great vid! Wasn’t aware that they were so close in cost to operate! And since I’m a masochist and enjoy having no money, I think you swayed me!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Hell yeah, no I need the money! 😝

  • @christineclutton6390
    @christineclutton63905 ай бұрын

    Love your motion picture stuff.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    5 ай бұрын

    😆 thanks sis 🥳

  • @Xin200O
    @Xin200O11 ай бұрын

    Just as I was looking into this, you decide to post a video, perfect timing!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I love when perfect timing happens

  • @Xin200O

    @Xin200O

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes same, I was considering picking up a small bolex before this, I might just shoot for one considering its a fraction of the price of some of the other super 8s

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I totally see that … as long as it’s fun fun fun

  • @Xin200O

    @Xin200O

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes Spittin facts

  • @Mustangsamjr
    @Mustangsamjr11 ай бұрын

    Film photography project does sell fresh double 8 (regular 8)and double perf 16mm. Both in the kodak stocks and some cool weird stocks.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I almost put them in the video. I just kind of didn’t fit timing wise.

  • @rothellecooke7425

    @rothellecooke7425

    10 ай бұрын

    Plus they have non Kodak brand for a great price to do testing or just use as you like. I buy from them, and by my Kodak films from Kodak....

  • @camerafusion
    @camerafusion11 ай бұрын

    Vids have definitely gotten better and better! Meant as a compliment for sure 😊

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    🫣❤️❤️❤️thanks 🙏🏼 🥰

  • @sambrumley_productions
    @sambrumley_productions11 ай бұрын

    I'd really like to see more about motion picture film and get into it myself, but for now I have to settle for log footage shot on a mirrorless camera through vintage glass

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I get that tooo yo … for sho

  • @RancesIntersaiyan
    @RancesIntersaiyan5 ай бұрын

    loved this video your humor is hilarious!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    5 ай бұрын

    Ahhhh yaya so glad :)

  • @garrettbellphoto
    @garrettbellphoto11 ай бұрын

    First off, great hair. Second, thank you for this. I’m going to get into Super 8 soon and I’m glad to hear your viewpoint on it.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    1st… Aw thanks so much 2nd … dope glad to help!

  • @rock-steadi-cam5058
    @rock-steadi-cam50588 ай бұрын

    The Arri-S is a totally professional camera - it just happens to use 100' rolls and is intended for MOS (no lipsync sound). Some Arri-S's even accept 400' mags. You also left out my favorite camera the CP-16 and my least favorite, the Scoopic!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    8 ай бұрын

    I mean this episode was dense as it is 🤪 but fee ya

  • @DLivingston
    @DLivingston11 ай бұрын

    WHOA. I like this! Been wanting to shoot some Super 8. I have also been eyeing the Lomography Kino to just mess around a bit with some 35mm. Pitch Black joke was solid tbh HA... 5:56 Baxters Dad for anyone reading this. I just sent some film to Midwest myself, being localish and solid scans! 6k scans were crispy!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Do it! Super eight for the win… and thanks for backing me up on the pitch, black joke… Even though it objectively, wasn’t the best lol

  • @jagwire8671
    @jagwire867111 ай бұрын

    the caleb upload came out first today, a unexpected but welcome surprise

  • @jagwire8671

    @jagwire8671

    11 ай бұрын

    wait the vin diesel movie where he can only see in the dark wasnt Riddick?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Pitch Black was the first movie! Riddick came after 🤟🏼

  • @JonChampaigne
    @JonChampaigne11 ай бұрын

    I have been thinking about doing this for a while, will likely cost me a house worth of money, sure my partner will be particularly pleased. Also --this video is really beautifully shot and produced, great video!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Aww thanks so much. Lots of motion graphics lol I’m glad you liked it. 🥳

  • @m00dawg
    @m00dawg11 ай бұрын

    Thanks Caleb! That was a fun comparison! I want a K3 so bad but no good reason to have one :P I was curious, have you ever tried to make a projection print (either a daily or a fully edited ready to go one)? I would imagine that's $$ but I did notice Cinelab will do basic ones on 16mm which had me leaning that way next time I have a movie film itch. Related aside, are any of your movies available from distributors (for public showings)?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I’m glad you enjoyed the video! You can see all my movies on this channel… cassette tape, stadium, and bad egg (bad egg shot digitally)

  • @tracyknueven9375
    @tracyknueven937510 ай бұрын

    Great video… I want to learn more about the cigar portion of photography😊

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Haha deal!! 🤣

  • @SatanSupimpa
    @SatanSupimpa11 ай бұрын

    I really like the look they got for Red Rocket filming 16mm with anamorphic lenses.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah. So agreeeee good movie!!!!!!! I’d love to get my anamorphic on toooo

  • @NoosaHeads
    @NoosaHeads4 ай бұрын

    Bolex is such a good camera... I used to have an Eclair and an Aaton. I couldn't see any benefit of these over the Bolex. The Bolex (no registration pin) has no more weave and chatter than in the Aaton.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    4 ай бұрын

    The Aaton is king 😍🥰🚀

  • @qvarfoto
    @qvarfoto10 ай бұрын

    GrrrRRRrrreeEEAT video as always man! I friend gave me a gorgeous fully manual old Russian 8mm (not S8) camera last year and I've been dying to try it out... but it's nearly impossible to find film for it and the cost of dev+scan etc is just sad. Which makes me sad. Which makes the internet sad when I spread my sadness. Anyhoo, I also have a Super 8 camera that I got from my granddad, so maybe I should give that a go instead. Thanks for the inspo-boost, I needed that! Cheers

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Check out FILM photography project! You might find what you need there

  • @qvarfoto

    @qvarfoto

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes Yeah I've seen you and others talking about them but I'm in Scandinavia so I doubt it'd be worth it. But I'll definitely have a look. Thanks!

  • @Dbkpictures
    @Dbkpictures4 ай бұрын

    Love this video!!! I just have one question. Where do you get your super 8 film scanned and developed for 40 bucks?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    4 ай бұрын

    It should be in the video :)

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    4 ай бұрын

    Glad you liked the vid :)

  • @MariusGandolf
    @MariusGandolf2 ай бұрын

    Can you do an update of this video and nerd out about the other formats? like ultra 16, 35 and double 8.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe someday :) Glad you like it

  • @dallassrexrode6604
    @dallassrexrode66048 ай бұрын

    recently just paid $430 for a canon xl on ebay from japan it runs perfectly and i’ve shot 2 rolls can’t wait to get ‘em developed!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh hells yeah

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras11 ай бұрын

    You should check out the movie Tigerland. It was fully shot on 16mm film. Great military flick too.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Tigerland! On my list

  • @staswlad

    @staswlad

    11 ай бұрын

    La mort d'un guide also on 16mm

  • @TypewriterChicago
    @TypewriterChicago10 ай бұрын

    Haven't even seen the whole video, but I LOVE AATON 16mm Cameras so much, I dream of playing with one.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    😍🚀🍾 It’s amazing

  • @TypewriterChicago

    @TypewriterChicago

    10 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes After finishing the video I must earnestly agree, fabulous work!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @TommyGP72
    @TommyGP7210 ай бұрын

    You didn't mention the MAX-8 format: An 8mm format that uses the same principle of the Super-16 format to make a wider aspect ration, with a standart Super-8 films. The problem is you have to buy or rent specified cameras made by Pro 8mm company with a special wider gate modified for this format, and that is much more expensive than buying a regular used Super-8 camera.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    That’s why I didn’t end up putting it in the video. Lol

  • @koltinn
    @koltinn11 ай бұрын

    A year ago I found a deal for a super 8 camera, projector and the white screen thingy (Lerret in native language) $70-80. Restocking chems and buying b&w film for super 8 is around the same ball park. Don't have film for it and chems nor that special soviet tank but all of it works (camera motor spins shutter works) but projector lens sadly has fungus that effects the picture (it looks like someone left like a strand of sewing string on the lens but havent tested sharpness cuz I dont have anything to project.) One of these days I have to bite the bullet and test it fully. Anyway, how's that natura 1600 going along?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Bite the bullet! Do it!!!! I haven’t got it yet, I’m waiting for the best place in time :-)

  • @joanmichel
    @joanmichel11 ай бұрын

    Appreciate the breakdown. And then there’s Oppenheimer.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    😊😊😊 oh I’m so glad … and right. O.p.p!!!!!

  • @Statuskuo75
    @Statuskuo7510 ай бұрын

    Fantastic!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    😍😍😍

  • @monkeywrenchedphotography1876
    @monkeywrenchedphotography187611 ай бұрын

    Loved Pitch Black !!!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Right!

  • @giannobong6778
    @giannobong67788 ай бұрын

    What’s going with the edit of the video- looks great. Don’t know if all your videos look like this or what. Is this shot on vintage glass or just a really cool preset?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    7 ай бұрын

    What part of the video are you referring too. Some vintage some modern … glad you liked it :)

  • @giannobong6778

    @giannobong6778

    7 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes the interview portions- where you’re talking into the camera (had to rewatch the first minute or so to jog my memory) I just love the image- feels very unique. Most KZreadrs have the same look as everyone in their niche. Kind of made me think there was something special about the glass or something. Great colors, great image. Were you shooting in LOG?

  • @oldradios09
    @oldradios095 ай бұрын

    I have both and I like both but I do more Super 8 and Black and White footage due to my budget. I splurged on a REX 5 Bolex and had it repaired and I love it! would you say the REX5 is Prosumer Or the Arriflex? I’m interested in the Eclair NPR or because so many indie films in the 70s were shot on those. BUT the thing is I’m not ready to spend another 3 grand plus on a camera for a good while. As for Super 8, I think I’m ready to buy a Canon 1014 XLS model once my tax return comes.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    5 ай бұрын

    Hells yeah to both!!!!!!!

  • @NunThree
    @NunThree2 ай бұрын

    Hi Bad Flashes, I like the 8/16/33 mm look. But is there cheap alternative? Getting the footage developed and digitized is hardly affordable if you want to shoot a full length analog film (and dont want to use pseudo-analog digital filter.)

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    2 ай бұрын

    I would say at that point use digital. At the end of the day story matters more than :)

  • @NunThree

    @NunThree

    2 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes so there is no alternative?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    2 ай бұрын

    I mean not really no. Unless you shoot digitally and use a program like After effects to emulate and create that look but that takes time and knowledge in the program.

  • @P00P2OO
    @P00P2OO10 ай бұрын

    Does the lab use any print film to develop the footages? Or the footage came out as film log?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    It depends on what you want. You can get them to do a quick color correction which my cost of money or you can get log files. I usually get log files and do the color grading myself.

  • @OneMonthTwoCameras
    @OneMonthTwoCameras11 ай бұрын

    Yes! Please talk to Sony about that shutter angle thing cuz they consistently add to fail it to their supposedly hybrid cameras.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Do you think I could have that much pull with them lol Someday

  • @OneMonthTwoCameras

    @OneMonthTwoCameras

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes one @sony comment from you and it’s taken care of. Do your community service Caleb! 😂

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Hahaha I wish I had that pull 😜

  • @JamieMPhoto
    @JamieMPhoto11 ай бұрын

    I so want to shoot Super 16 ... Which reminds me I'm going to be shooting some stuff with my Beaulieu R16 soon ... :)

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Aw dope you have a Beaulieu?????? Those look amazing

  • @JamieMPhoto

    @JamieMPhoto

    10 ай бұрын

    It's such a looker! I'll have to send a link to a few things I've shot. I have the 200' Mouse Ears mag, too, but haven't gone crazy and purchased a 400' roll to split yet. ha ha.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Dude. I want to seeeee :)

  • @Dbkpictures
    @Dbkpictures2 ай бұрын

    What color Color correction process do you use for super 8

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    2 ай бұрын

    I usually get everything scanned as log… sometimes I use a conversion a lot to get to a rec 709 … then from there… but sometimes I just add a heavy curves adjustment and then color correct from there. Just depends on the footage.

  • @jiving0078
    @jiving00789 ай бұрын

    Great breakdown, I remember you mentioning super 16 exposes more than 16mm And ultra can crop into both of those format. Would ultra be ideal if u would still like that extra exposure from super 16 since I can crop in when developing? Also , a PL mount ? more user friendly since I would have the ability to use a variety of lenses im assuming. Ultra-16 doesn't have the centring problem and has a more cinematic aspect ratio. However, this comes at the cost of more grain since you'll not be using the entire height of the frame Ultra 16 to avoid centering problem but develop as super 16? Is my final question

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    9 ай бұрын

    I think overall it just depends on Price in general. P L Glass can’t get expensive so it’s amazing. It’s all about Price. As far as ultra versus standard or super, it just really depends on if you can get the conversion done I think ultra exposes some of the sprockets so if you like that look, then it would work, but if you wanted it to be cleaner, then super 16 is probably the best option.

  • @jiving0078

    @jiving0078

    9 ай бұрын

    With using the negative space do you receive your film back when receiving your drive back ?

  • @gottanikoncamera
    @gottanikoncamera11 ай бұрын

    The one confusing thing about S8 on some cameras is the Tungsten/Daylight settings. Very unintuitive on some.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, I totally agree with you on that!

  • @monkeywrenchedphotography1876
    @monkeywrenchedphotography187611 ай бұрын

    I’m thinking you need to do a in depth 16mm video for us camera nerds

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    🤓🤪🚀

  • @JasperBunschoten
    @JasperBunschoten11 ай бұрын

    After watching Oppenheimer... The only the way to go is70mm! As well as with 50 and 80 T1.4 lenses. Nothing else will suffice! Can you imagine shooting negatives the size of a Pentax 67 with 1.4 aperture lenses?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol woah hold your horses. But yeah !!! Totally 🤪

  • @JasperBunschoten

    @JasperBunschoten

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes Did ya see it?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yep!!!!! So beautiful in 70mm

  • @JasperBunschoten

    @JasperBunschoten

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes I know! Gonna see it for the second time (2nd time in IMAX) this week... Totally in love with the visuals and sounds!

  • @classic.cameras

    @classic.cameras

    11 ай бұрын

    I think Caleb would need a freaking Tank to carry his new 70mm gear. 🤣

  • @DavidWagelmans
    @DavidWagelmans10 ай бұрын

    Awesome video

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks 🙏🏼

  • @dallassrexrode6604
    @dallassrexrode660411 ай бұрын

    i read that there was aerochrome in 16mm but most likely if you do find it it’ll probably be over 5k for it

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, there’s very famous documentary shot with it, if only I could have. I’d be a happy man.

  • @mikejankowski6321
    @mikejankowski632111 ай бұрын

    I have no interest in moving pictures on film. Nice post, enjoyed it!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in still

  • @perraplays4126
    @perraplays412611 ай бұрын

    funny, I ran across a super 8 camera (which I sadly forgot to go back for) and researched how to shoot it and came across Grainydays then you

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol welcome!!!!!

  • @staswlad
    @staswlad11 ай бұрын

    our guy!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    🤪🥰🚀

  • @nev.catalyst7478
    @nev.catalyst747811 ай бұрын

    Nolan shot his first movie with 16mm and $6000. Movie is titled Following

  • @staswlad

    @staswlad

    11 ай бұрын

    thanks

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I wish we can do that now lol I haven’t seen that movie in forever

  • @jmm117kgb
    @jmm117kgb10 ай бұрын

    Niagara Custom Labs in Toronto are the best in the game for developping and scanning super8 film

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    That’s also good to know!

  • @wheels2fun526
    @wheels2fun5268 ай бұрын

    The NPR Eclair is a far better camera. Easier to use, easier to load. This is what the BBC, Granada, Thames, LWT and so many many other television companies use them for news and film.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    8 ай бұрын

    Oh yeah I can see that

  • @playerpage
    @playerpage4 ай бұрын

    You don't mention Beaulieu cameras for Super8. They have the best lenses out there, and a ton of features. I know a lot of them have unique batteries, but you can get them replaced fairly simply, even if they aren't all that cheap.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    4 ай бұрын

    Yeah, they really are beautiful Cameras, but I think the battery thing turned me off a little bit. I would love to get my hands on one someday.

  • @MrSmaugXD
    @MrSmaugXD11 ай бұрын

    owning an aaton is a dream of mine

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    I believe in you!!! 🥰

  • @SomeHarbourBastard
    @SomeHarbourBastard7 ай бұрын

    I'd say go for 16mm. It's much higher quality for not that much more money. It's a $15 difference between buying a 50ft roll of Super 8 and a 100ft roll of 16mm. Not to mention more versatility.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    7 ай бұрын

    Totally. 🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀

  • @theaviationphotographer61
    @theaviationphotographer618 ай бұрын

    since I'm broke and can't afford either I just experiment with emulation 16mm with my dslr 🤣but I do enjoy shooting regular 35mm film but eventually I want to try super 8

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    8 ай бұрын

    I do get that. It can get expensive

  • @Itscarlosocando
    @Itscarlosocando11 ай бұрын

    Bro I still can't get over you like Andor

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Dudes sexy. I’ll take that

  • @tylerhuttosmith
    @tylerhuttosmith11 ай бұрын

    My pedantic ass would also like to add that double 8 cameras are cheap (for the most part) and if you want more manual control or don’t want to deal with batteries they’re a good option. I like the results I’ve had with double 8 a little better than super8, actually. Got a Bolex double 8 with two lenses for $65 in great condition and FPP has a solid amount of options as far as film goes(they also sell double perf 16mm too in case someone needs it). The downfall is a lot of double 8 cameras are non reflex (like 16mm Bolexes). I just bought a canon double 8 reflex though and am pumped to use it. Nothing quite like the instant nostalgia of motion picture film. Great video as always, but just wanted to add these for people that might not be able to spring for the more expensive options so that they can spend the money on film and processing. I typically only shoot like twice a year and it’s worth it, but as ya mentioned it burns a hole in your wallet faster than still film.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Damn, you are the third person telling me about FPP…. I had a whole section on them and I feel like I should’ve just added it in there now. Maybe I’ll do a quick side video.

  • @tylerhuttosmith

    @tylerhuttosmith

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes All good and didn’t mean it aimed at you (obviously you know about them) meant it more in case someone was reading the comments and looking for other options. Have you seen the okto 35 project Blaz Semprimoznik is working on? Nico mentioned it in the news a bit ago. Its motion picture camera that shoots 35mm still film across 4 tracks so it’s super 8 size, but with variable frame rates and crystal sync. You could shoot retrochrome in super 8 and process and scan it yourself, because it’s also supposed to have a scan mode where you can dslr scan with automatic frame advance. Would be a game changer.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Well, I’m gonna have to check out that new segment! And I didn’t think you were coming after me lol Actually, I just made a quick segment about FPP adding in the little bit information that I had. I’ll release that sometime soon. :)

  • @AdamBuker
    @AdamBuker7 ай бұрын

    @0:21 Is... Is that the ClownC0re van?

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    7 ай бұрын

    Haha doubt it 🤷🏼

  • @orestes1984
    @orestes198411 ай бұрын

    I started shooting 8mm again recently and then I was like yeah.... You know what? It works out at about $150 per 50ft on the cheap for develop/process/scan. Don't get me wrong its a bast, but modern costs are kinda outlandish considering, 50ft is 2:30minutes if you actually want to shoot it at 24fps. Then I was like, if I want low cost highly compressed footage, why don't I use my phone? I mean, an iPhone with a VND, and a fairly basic rig is good, but then you don't get the colours or the look.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah. It’s hard out there sometimes. Lol

  • @nicholassheffo5723
    @nicholassheffo572310 ай бұрын

    The BOLEX 160 is the only great 24fps Super 8 camera the company ever made and the only one that will last with their name on it, but be careful of two things: 1) the battery compartment clips are fragile and if they break are hard to fix and 2) if batteries have leaked while in the camera, it will ruin the motor in the vast majority of the cases. Otherwise, a great camera. All later models were made by Eumig and tend to break and stay broken. The ECLAIR 16mm cameras are great and you can get some great, cheap 16mm cameras (Stewart Warner, Keystone, CinClox, Bell & Howell) starting at about $30.00 and they perform better than you'd think, even if many/most are 100-ft spools and often only double perf, which is why you may have excluded them. The KEYSTONE NEWPORT does both 16mm perf formats, as does the BELL & HOWELL 240EE, a favorite of Orson Wells. Skip 16mm cartridge cameras, of course.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    Damn! That’s some good information. I’ll have to check out some of those cameras that you mentioned. I guess none of them are reflex models, correct?

  • @dflf
    @dflf11 ай бұрын

    It’s too bad super 8 doesn’t come on a reel anymore because I still have a key wound Bolex that I shot a lot of stop motion animation waaaay back in HS

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    That would be so sick!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Do check out FPP though!

  • @tylerhuttosmith

    @tylerhuttosmith

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah, FPP sells double 8 and has a decent variety. Check them out! I just sent some double 8 b&w and 16mm retrochrome to be devved and scanned by them. Now I need to check out The Negative Space

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Totally!!!!! I actually had a whole bit on FPP but I cut for time 🫣

  • @tompoynton
    @tompoynton11 ай бұрын

    16mm just makes me melt

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s why I’m constantly on the floor in a puddle

  • @Dylzphotoz
    @Dylzphotoz5 ай бұрын

    Would you watch a hour long film shot on super 8? Or would you rather watch a 16mm film

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    5 ай бұрын

    Depends on the story being told and the intent behind the format they chose :)

  • @Dylzphotoz

    @Dylzphotoz

    5 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes agreed

  • @35mm21
    @35mm2111 ай бұрын

    I haven't won the lottery so no shooting video on film for me.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah I get that

  • @tonyperez5360
    @tonyperez536011 ай бұрын

    I’m baby I’ve never shot motion were do I begin I have a Canon ??? Oh yes Auto Zoom 814 oh yes Photographer since HS 1973 😊

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Hahah never say never 😝

  • @NateG459
    @NateG45911 ай бұрын

    where's the double 8 love 😩

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Follow up short…. Lol

  • @LaskyLabs
    @LaskyLabs11 ай бұрын

    Or you could shoot 8FPS 35mm Full frame on a Nikon F5!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol maybe I’ll do that first

  • @LaskyLabs

    @LaskyLabs

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes Somebody on youtube made a beautiful one minute reel.

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Solid :)

  • @staswlad

    @staswlad

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LaskyLabs yes, the boy already filmed, like 200 videos were used in the project, the granny is in the frame, he filmed himself in the mirror, I can’t find it

  • @staswlad

    @staswlad

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes kzread.info/dash/bejne/oqaOs7Z6YNK-ms4.html

  • @oldradios09
    @oldradios0910 ай бұрын

    both because im crazy

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    10 ай бұрын

    If you know me, you know, I also like crazy

  • @theroebuck123456789
    @theroebuck12345678911 ай бұрын

    the real question is how do you develop super 8 or 16mm film at home

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Beer lol I have a vid on that 😜

  • @theroebuck123456789

    @theroebuck123456789

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes but it ended on a cliffhanger we never got the ektachrome or the 50D 😥

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Next time 🤣

  • @stasgavrilovru
    @stasgavrilovru11 ай бұрын

    Unfortunately, none 😢

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    None!?!?!?

  • @stasgavrilovru

    @stasgavrilovru

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes I am living in barbaric state🥹

  • @impracticalKim
    @impracticalKim11 ай бұрын

    It costs 200'000 dollars to shoot this camera for 12 seconds

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol lots.

  • @parkermillican
    @parkermillican11 ай бұрын

    I prefer 120mm 😤

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @Jakechams
    @Jakechams11 ай бұрын

    Its me, im the dumb dumb mass public ppl :)

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    😘😘😘😘 You are so much more!

  • @flickfilms3603
    @flickfilms3603Ай бұрын

    this is the most millennial coded person I have ever witnessed

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    Ай бұрын

    Cool…..???????

  • @norbertmuhlberger7357
    @norbertmuhlberger735711 ай бұрын

    You are 35mm guy….

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    🚀🚀🚀

  • @mmuzzwell3654
    @mmuzzwell3654Ай бұрын

    Do you have ADHD too ♥

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    Ай бұрын

    May seen that way but no I don’t think so 🤔

  • @GianOfficialMusic
    @GianOfficialMusic11 ай бұрын

    Too many jokes.....

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Or not enough?????

  • @milanovevlogy
    @milanovevlogy11 ай бұрын

    26K baby!

  • @BadFlashes

    @BadFlashes

    11 ай бұрын

    Dab baby!!!

  • @milanovevlogy

    @milanovevlogy

    11 ай бұрын

    @@BadFlashes The only one place on internet, where we can see Jason doing THESE motions 😃

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