155lb and 165lb warbow vs late period medieval plate armor made by ​⁠

There are few things that bring me as much joy as nerding out with fellow enthusiast. This week I was blessed with armor from the one and only ‪@dequitem‬ and I got the chance to test out some hardened battle ready plate armor. I was super pleased with the results but even more thrilled i was blessed with this opportunity. I put a ton of time into this video and it is my absolute favorite one to date so I truly hope you enjoy it as much as I did. Also happy 4th of July, the dummy head exploding is my version of fireworks.
Also I am planning on being more active on Patreon with updates and behind the scenes so feel free to check it out (and help support the arrow fund).
Chapters
0:00- 1:15 Intro
1:16 - 3:45 breaking down the armor and tests
3:45 - 6:52 Test 1 155lb warbow vs Guantlets
6:53 - 9:19 Test 2 165lb warbow vs pauldrons and bicep plate
9:20 - 11:47 test 3 impact test with ballistic dummy
11:48 - 12:20 PSA for crossbow lovers
11:21 - 14:21 Test 4 Grond (mace) Vs knee plate
14:22 - 16:21 Test 5 121lb flatbow vs dummy
16:23 - 17:48 Mortal Kombat Test
17:45 - 18:50 Grond vs ballistic dummy
18:51 - 21:29 final thoughts
Vidoes used from ‪@dequitem‬
and ‪@AdministrativeResults‬
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  • @dequitem
    @dequitem28 күн бұрын

    What the fuck. This test is awesome! Better than anything from Tod's workshop. I am so shocked about your arrow puncture the bizep and the gauntlet. Yes I would be fine for the most part but this sucks! And you are so fucking accurate with your shots. I can imagine that you hit my gabs and chainmail wouldn't save me! You are awesome and I hope that this video will get intention and can give you some arrows back. I will defenetly watch it a couple of times and share it! ❤ Greetings Dequitem

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much my friend! I cannot thank you enough for providing me with such amazing armor to truly test the bow. Doing this video has been my highlight on KZread so far 100%

  • @dequitem

    @dequitem

    28 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 I hope you can make some more tests on this armor. Most parts are still okay.

  • @martinhg98

    @martinhg98

    27 күн бұрын

    Dont inault tod hes great

  • @erikhoff5010

    @erikhoff5010

    26 күн бұрын

    Being a Nerd isn't cheap!

  • @charliejackson6192

    @charliejackson6192

    25 күн бұрын

    @@dequitem absolutely in awe of your fighting prowess. You are a modern day Knight in every sense.

  • @JhinHih-pb2gp
    @JhinHih-pb2gp28 күн бұрын

    Having weapons tested on the proper armor that dequitem uses is a massive jump in difficulty The videos that he makes shows how strong this armor actually is and how much damage a person can take A perfect collab Maybe a sling test is needed?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    It really is amazing to see the difference between quality hardened armor, and what’s normally out there. It’s truly remarkable.

  • @savagelee6973
    @savagelee697328 күн бұрын

    My favorite part? "This is gonna be expensive", Haha! I understand, I'm a handgunner.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Haha a true hobbiest plights

  • @LuoJun2

    @LuoJun2

    28 күн бұрын

    That’s why I took up archery. Reusable ammo.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Unless shot at hardened plate haha

  • @C-A-L-M

    @C-A-L-M

    27 күн бұрын

    ​​@@dashrendar5320does the heavy metal tip cause it to flex and break? would having a lighter but hard tip or full metal arrow fix the issue?

  • @LuoJun2

    @LuoJun2

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 I can’t afford hardened plate armor targets either. I’m sticking to stacked cardboard.

  • @rimroth5224
    @rimroth522427 күн бұрын

    Dequitem and Dash Rendar collab?! Dreams really do come true sometimes!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    It really was a dream come true for me as well

  • @elmarhomann2633

    @elmarhomann2633

    27 күн бұрын

    Schleimer😉

  • @eirikronaldfossheim
    @eirikronaldfossheim28 күн бұрын

    That was a really nice test. The results were as expected. Out of 59 pieces of surviving plate armour from mid 14th Century to early 15th Century, only 7 were made of hardened steel. That's 11.86%. And all those were slack-quenced, not full quenched.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes indeed! It was cool to test some of the highest end possible armor I have ever seen.

  • @dequitem

    @dequitem

    28 күн бұрын

    But remember every citizen hat armor every mercenary had armor knightly armor isn't the majority. So most knight armors were hardened. Nontheless yes it's higher quality armor.

  • @Specter_1125

    @Specter_1125

    28 күн бұрын

    Mild steel or even laminated iron performs incredibly well against arrows provided it’s not a flat, unworked sheet of it.

  • @eirikronaldfossheim

    @eirikronaldfossheim

    28 күн бұрын

    The majority of the hardened armour would probably have been in the possession of knights, but there is no evidence of for this in this period, nor that most knight's armour was hardened. If you have any, please let me know. Knights made up only 10% +/- of all the men-at-arms. For the rest of the readers, that would be mounted combatants in full plate amour trained to fight mounted with a lance on a horse trained for the purpose. Of all those 59 pieces of armour Alan Williams have tested, 25 were bascinets, the vast majority with hinges for a visor, 6 were great helmets, 3 were armets, 1 was a barbute, 7 were visors, 1 was a jousting helm, 4 were breastplates, 2 were coat-of-plates, 2 were vambraces, 3 were gauntlets and last we have 1 greave, spaulder, fauld, shaffron and backplate. In other words, the vast majority is armour for men-at-arms and knights. Some of these have decorations and others we know the provenance of, so we know they were high status armour.

  • @eirikronaldfossheim

    @eirikronaldfossheim

    27 күн бұрын

    @@Specter_1125 High end modern mild steel perform well. However, the fracture toughness with a DENT test varies by grade from just around 300 down to 220 kJ/m2 for the lowest grade of mild steel, depending on alloying elements and carbon. Medieval bloomery steel goes from 212 and down to 180 kJ/m2. Not even the lowest grade of modern mild steel is therefore comparable to the best medieval bloomery steel. 200 years old wrought iron from the industrial revolution with 1.8% slag perform well when it is laminated. Most medieval plates made of wrought iron have more slag than this, so the performance would be worse. When modern wrought iron with 1.8-1.84% slag is laminated, the fracture toughness is 228-229 kJ/m2, the same as AISI 1010 mild steel. When medieval wrought iron is laminated the fracture toughness is from 170 to 210 kJ/m2, depending on slag inclusions. 210 kJ/m2 would be an outlier and does not represent the average. 64.4 % of the surviving armour I mentioned is either wrought iron or bloomery steel. A realistic test involving modern steel would require annealed AISI 1005 steel, and even then it would be an outlier. So if a medieval piece of armour have a fracture toughness of 180 kJ/m2, while a modern test piece of mild steel have a fracture toughness of 300 kJ/m2, the difference would be an increase of 66% (300/180 = 1.66). In other words, if we assume that it will take 80 Joules to penetrated a thin plate with a fracture toughness of 180 kJ/m2, it would take 132.8 Joules to penetrate the plate with a fracture toughness of 300 kJ/m2. That's a problem if the arrow strikes with 115 Joules. There are grades of modern mild steel with 0.2% carbon with a fracture toughness just under 300 kJ/m2 due to alloying elements. With some cold working this will increase to just over 300 kJ/m2. Modern mild steel is a terrible analog for medieval bloomery steel.

  • @RoseKB22
    @RoseKB2228 күн бұрын

    Such a good test, and very educational. As a writer, artist, history nerd, and a newbie archer, this was so cool to watch. Thanks so much for sharing this knowledge.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much. I am so glad you enjoyed the video and it’s a joy to share. Highlight of my week is sharing videos with fellow like minded people 😁

  • @lingling5278
    @lingling527828 күн бұрын

    Ohhh men two my favorite medieval KZreadrs yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😬👍👍👍👍

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    My favorite video I have done to date. So cool to try it out

  • @cavokkk
    @cavokkk28 күн бұрын

    "so the skull stayed intact" while holding the Head with your hands... Haahhahahahaha

  • @williamread8186
    @williamread818628 күн бұрын

    You are demonstrating why war bankrupted many medieval countries LOL.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Hahaha 100% and many enthusiast in modern days

  • @dequitem

    @dequitem

    28 күн бұрын

    @@williamread8186 so much knowledge in that video!

  • @soos015
    @soos01528 күн бұрын

    Absolutely love these test videos, keep up the good work, and thank you for getting me into archery loads of enjoyment in a bendy stick i must say 😅

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    So glad you enjoyed it and I’m so happy you are loving archery! It truly is a blast

  • @anangryranger
    @anangryranger28 күн бұрын

    This was a very interesting series of tests involving superior armored plates for various locations of the body. I was highly impressed with the gauntlets. Being an old boxer myself, your final lefthook was textbook perfect! 🤜👍 Yup, I really appreciate the sacrifice of your arrows for this video. It was worth it though.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thanks for that my friend, it’s been a while since I’ve done the sport, but still have some groundwork there. Also glad you enjoyed the video and this sacrifice of the arrows.

  • @zacharyshoemaker835
    @zacharyshoemaker83525 күн бұрын

    Holy crap game recognizes game! You and dequitem thats freaking awesome!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    24 күн бұрын

    I was so excited and honored to get some armor from him!

  • @Sandwich13455
    @Sandwich1345528 күн бұрын

    Grond Grond Grond!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Always a good time, I need to do some work on him though 😂

  • @jessebell1930
    @jessebell193028 күн бұрын

    Practical archaeology coupled with weapons that you are very well versed in using? Hell yeah!😁

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    My favorite video I have ever done 100%

  • @jessebell1930

    @jessebell1930

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 shared Buddy. As always absolutely love your work mate👊

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you as always my friend

  • @franciscofunari2343
    @franciscofunari234328 күн бұрын

    -Plate armor was not generally used with gambeson. A more accurate test would be to use a arming doublet, gambeson is to bulky for that. -A 160lbs longbow may be more powerful than a 600lbs crossbow but a 960lbs has a almost equal energy and momentum, in a test made by Tod’s Workshop, a 1500lbs crossbow could have more power than a longbow. Thanks for the amazing content!

  • @dequitem

    @dequitem

    28 күн бұрын

    @@franciscofunari2343 but it's a brigandine not a full harness.

  • @konaonpalannut9723

    @konaonpalannut9723

    27 күн бұрын

    ​@@dequitemWearing plate arms especially like the ones shown here couldn't be attached without an arming doublet. And looking at 15th century sources, any cuirass without arm protection is fine with a gambeson but whn you add the arms you'd certainly be wearing a arming doublet.

  • @jonathanengdahl9045

    @jonathanengdahl9045

    26 күн бұрын

    The 160lbs war bow is probably not more powerful than 600lbs composite crossbow. Composite crossbows store and release energy much more efficiently than steel crossbows of similar draw weight

  • @eirikronaldfossheim

    @eirikronaldfossheim

    26 күн бұрын

    @@jonathanengdahl9045 A 160lb longbow at 30" is comparable to a 630-640lb composite crossbow with bolt/arrows between 66 grams and 57.7 grams . I have made the graphs based on test results from Andreas Bichler.

  • @jonathanengdahl9045

    @jonathanengdahl9045

    26 күн бұрын

    @@eirikronaldfossheim Sounds about right. That would probably be towards the upper limit of a belt spanned crossbow. Much more than that and even a strongman might need a winch

  • @supposedlygreg
    @supposedlygreg24 күн бұрын

    Great video, I never miss a Dequitem video and so cool to see you collaborate with them.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    24 күн бұрын

    Was such an honor to test his armor. I was so thrilled

  • @zedre7633
    @zedre763326 күн бұрын

    At least now we know bowmen shooting straight at plate armor didn't have to worry about their arrows being shot back at them.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    26 күн бұрын

    Hahahaa quite true. One and done

  • @thequintanahomestead3820
    @thequintanahomestead38206 күн бұрын

    Can you imagine how loud that arrow to the side of the helmet would’ve been for the helmet wearer? Awesome video

  • @thefatefulforce8887
    @thefatefulforce888728 күн бұрын

    Epic!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thanks man! This was my favorite video and experience I have had so far

  • @luckrequired5382
    @luckrequired538227 күн бұрын

    15:31 'Respectfully take your damn hat off when entering my house, good Sir!' Big thanks to ‪@dequitem‬ for allowing our favourite nerd to enjoy the 4th in a most bodacious way! Happy 4th of July, Dash & family!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Happy fourth to you and yours as well. It was an amazing Fourth of July filled with ballistic dummy, goop, and arrows breaking haha

  • @luckrequired5382

    @luckrequired5382

    26 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 Thank you :)

  • @mattdefreitas525
    @mattdefreitas525Күн бұрын

    Art is so cool. That jump man wow that was impressive. Mannn I'd love to have a bro to do this stuff with haha looks like alot of fun. I've got to join a medievil fight club

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    Күн бұрын

    Yeah he is an absolute unit of athlete.

  • @sefin84
    @sefin8426 күн бұрын

    Amazing how effective the armor was. People are genius in every period of history!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    26 күн бұрын

    Truly, the ingenuity never ends

  • @charliejackson6192
    @charliejackson619225 күн бұрын

    I love the Ogre Smash at the end of the video. Always entertaining. Feeds my nerd and testosterone levels. Off to workout

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    25 күн бұрын

    Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it. Always a blast to Film as well. Hope your workday goes great, my friend. 💪🏹

  • @theprancingprussian
    @theprancingprussian28 күн бұрын

    900-1200 lb crossbows havent much more energy, scalgrim ( cant spell right ) used a windless spanned crossbow and while it could poke little holes in a cuirass it was a dead on hit The draw length prevents it from getting more than 150 joules of energy over a 165lb bow

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Indeed, time in contact with the string makes All the difference

  • @hjorturerlend

    @hjorturerlend

    28 күн бұрын

    The best way to get more performance is to use a composite bow instead of steel. Composite bows accelerate the bolt faster. From tests of ~500 pound steel and 500 pound composite bows the composite launched the bolt 15% faster which equals 50% more energy on target. Professional crossbowmen tended to use composite bows, tho steel is more convenient for mass storage.

  • @jonathanengdahl9045

    @jonathanengdahl9045

    26 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 Belt spanned composite crossbows would have been the most common type of crossbow throughout the hundred years war. Composite crossbows store and release energy vastly more efficiently than steel crossbows. Check out Andreas Bichler who makes composite crossbows

  • @jonathanengdahl9045

    @jonathanengdahl9045

    26 күн бұрын

    @@hjorturerlend Steel crossbows as well as all the mechanical spanning devices that come with them is really more of a mid to late 15th century phenomena. Belt spanned composite crossbows would have been the most commonly used type of crossbow from the 13th to the 15th centuries

  • @Travgard

    @Travgard

    17 күн бұрын

    ​@@hjorturerlend It also depends on the period, with the development of more complex and efficient pulley systems for tensioning the crossbow string, it was possible to use steel bows that could develop more energy when the string was released.

  • @VonDorn1887
    @VonDorn188726 күн бұрын

    Great video. So much power in your bows.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    26 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much. So glad you enjoyed It

  • @themartyr9086
    @themartyr908627 күн бұрын

    “I was an adventurer once, until I took a Grond to the knee.” 😂 another Great vid my friend 👍🏻

  • @rimroth5224

    @rimroth5224

    27 күн бұрын

    But luckily, that arrow couldn’t get through my hardened steel plate armor 😂

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Haha yeah the arrow would not have made it through that I am very sure

  • @Emerald_Wolf
    @Emerald_Wolf27 күн бұрын

    This is fantastic. Although he is not here in the flesh it is like having Dequitem in spirit. Great work.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you my friend. It was an absolute blast

  • @Travgard
    @Travgard17 күн бұрын

    I would like one day to see a comparison between a bow and a crossbow from the 15th century on armor from the same period, it could even be quite fun to compare the developments over several periods!

  • @odd-ysseusdoesstuff6347
    @odd-ysseusdoesstuff634727 күн бұрын

    Gods, just imagine 50 Dash Rendars on a battlefield with a 25 guys in that armour ON horseback and another 25 on foot, just charging down the hill? That will be a sight to see +v+

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Hahaha

  • @roderickbedell3275
    @roderickbedell327527 күн бұрын

    Love the videos man! ive picked my bows back up, thanks to you!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much, so glad you enjoyed it and also so happy you got you back into archery again 💪🏹

  • @andrewsock1608
    @andrewsock160825 күн бұрын

    The speed of the arrow is more important than the bows poundage because not all bows are efficient and some are slowed down by overly heavy limb tips.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    24 күн бұрын

    Yes very true

  • @evanleclaire
    @evanleclaire26 күн бұрын

    Man do I nerd out for videos like this :D

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    25 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it. That’s the true joy of sharing is like minded nerdy individuals who love the same stuff

  • @evanleclaire

    @evanleclaire

    23 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 keep at it brother!

  • @WhatIfBrigade
    @WhatIfBrigade25 күн бұрын

    Excellent test!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    25 күн бұрын

    Thank you most kindly my friend

  • @jaguarholly7156
    @jaguarholly715623 күн бұрын

    I know i say it every time i pop in to comment, but your videos just keep getting better and better. I loved every part of this one. Good to see my boy Grond getting some fresh steel to chew up too. I'd comment and stuff more but i don't usually sign in to youtube these days. Im still watching tho. Keep up the great work brother 💪

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    23 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for taking the time to say that my friend. I’ve been having a ton of fun trying to get better with the filming and stuff.

  • @kombucha_director
    @kombucha_director27 күн бұрын

    Great video, thanks for testing this out!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thank you! It was a pleasure to do so

  • @Specter_1125
    @Specter_112528 күн бұрын

    Stopping horses is actually a lot harder than a lot of people might think. By the 15th century, not only were their vitals decently well armored, but they’re big animals, and no where near as skittish as modern horses. The most important piece of equipment an archer had against cavalry were their stakes. Without those, they didn’t stand much of a chance against a charge, if any.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Very true by later centuries, they had “stoppers” on them as well but they certainly had a lot less armor covering than the knights

  • @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510

    @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510

    27 күн бұрын

    Hate to be a devil's advocate but reports from battles, even in the 100 years war, describe entire cavalry charges by the French forced to continue the charge on foot due to waves and waves of barbed and needletip bodkin arrows wounding or killing their horses. Horses were generally much more vulnerable to warbow arrows than fully armoured knights, but then again so were men-at-arms in chainmail...

  • @Specter_1125

    @Specter_1125

    27 күн бұрын

    @@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510there’s also many, many accounts of knights riding straight through arrows and the charge not breaking. Vernuil and Patay are two such battles where the British couldn’t prepare defensive positions, and in both their archers were charged without issue. Granted, those were later battles in the 15th century rather than 14th, but most of the times French knights were forced to dismount, it was because they needed to remove the stakes in their way, or the terrain wasn’t suitable for cavalry (such as muddy hills), which meant that the British could loose thousands upon thousands of more arrows at them before they could close in. Also, men-at-arms had plate armor as well by the time of battles such as agicourt, just not always as complete or high quality as the knights. There were even earlier accounts from the crusades that described knights and their horses continuing to fight despite being filled with so many arrows they were described as porcupines, despite earlier armor. One specific instance the knight himself was hit 8 times, and his horse 12, but both kept fighting and survived.

  • @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510

    @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510

    24 күн бұрын

    @@Specter_1125 also true. I have also heard the description soldiers and their horses looking like porcupines after the Siege of Rouen. I assume you're a Kevin Hicks fan 👌🍻

  • @Specter_1125

    @Specter_1125

    24 күн бұрын

    @@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510I am indeed

  • @Aterribletake
    @Aterribletake24 күн бұрын

    That left hook was beautiful

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    24 күн бұрын

    Thank you my friend 💪

  • @HEMA_Fight_Breakdowns
    @HEMA_Fight_Breakdowns28 күн бұрын

    Great stuff, gotta love some good armor testing

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thanks my friend, my favorite video I have done to date hands down.

  • @nineravens2
    @nineravens227 күн бұрын

    Great!

  • @PanMateusz-wf9ev
    @PanMateusz-wf9ev23 күн бұрын

    The ultimate head bonker

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    23 күн бұрын

    Haha indeed

  • @BMO_Creative
    @BMO_Creative28 күн бұрын

    Man! When a knight is down and someone hobbles them with a mace! Sheesh... LOL... those strikes made me wince! LOL

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Haha yeah that felt a little dirty 😂

  • @ludecom-cz1wz
    @ludecom-cz1wz27 күн бұрын

    Now you need to shoot a golf ball with the war bow.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Oh man that would take me a few tries 😂

  • @c2099
    @c209928 күн бұрын

    Brutal. I'm loving it. I am curious how a Warhammer or pick would do against real plate. Awesome video as always Dash. The memes intercut throughout are *chef's kiss*

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much my friend, truly. I would love to do that but I for sure need a proper warhammer first

  • @c2099

    @c2099

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 I have a feeling that you'll find one in your armament soon. Keep up the good work my man.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Fingers crossed!

  • @LowTshrimpD

    @LowTshrimpD

    25 күн бұрын

    Dequitem just did a devatstating video with a bec de corbin or polehammer. The beak only was able to do proper damage against mail, not plate.

  • @mario.alexandru
    @mario.alexandru28 күн бұрын

    Great video

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you my friend! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @gametroll14
    @gametroll1425 күн бұрын

    damn you beat the crap out that knee plate

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    25 күн бұрын

    Haha man I had to put some legit work in to damage that thing

  • @nickdavis5420
    @nickdavis542026 күн бұрын

    Oh man armor is no joke .

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    26 күн бұрын

    For sure, you can immediately feel the difference between proper hardened well made plate and the cheap stuff

  • @berndmaier915
    @berndmaier91527 күн бұрын

    A thing to consider for the crossbow vs warbow discussion is that a 165lb warbow is relatively at the top end of power, yes they can be heavier but it is certainly up there. Meanwhile a 600lb crossbow is the excat opposite, I would consider anything below 500lb to be a hunting crossbow, for a fair comparison I think a 1000-1200lb crossbow would need to be tested. Now from having seen both already myself they have similar effects on target with the bow shootign much faster but requiring more strength and skill to use.

  • @jonathanengdahl9045

    @jonathanengdahl9045

    26 күн бұрын

    Also to keep in mind is that composite crossbows store and release energy much more efficiently than steel bows. Throughout the hundred years war belt spanned composite crossbows would have been the most common type of crossbow. Check out Andreas Bichler who makes composite crossbows. His bows are twice as efficient as Tods bows with equal draw weight

  • @user-zs2vt5yw3d
    @user-zs2vt5yw3d28 күн бұрын

    Damm those mace strikes look scary as hell, and awesome! I know you know what you are doing very well, but if it was my ass, id put that helmet on my head just to make sure no afterblow would come in my face hehe. Great channel, you should do some longbow shooting wearing some pieces of armor! Would look awesome.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thank you my friend ! So glad you enjoy the channel. That’s a fun idea. Would be cool to do some shooting in a armor kit

  • @benzerba7851
    @benzerba785124 күн бұрын

    Some conjecture on why the war bows performed better against armor compared to a 600 lb goat's foot crossbow: Within a system where Classical Mechanics (Newtonian, Lagrangian, Hamiltonian, ect. mechanics) remains accurate, which the projectile motions of projectile weapons fall into, we know that the final velocity of an object is given by Vfinal = Vinitial + (a)(t) where Vfinal and Vinitial are the final and initial velocities, a is acceleration, and t is time. Using Newton's Second Law, the acceleration acting on the projectile is found to be a = F/m where F is force and m is the mass of the object. Since the initial velocity of the projectile is zero meters per second and its mass constant at the time of firing, the final velocity of the projectile upon it exiting contact with the firing device is fully dependent on the forces acting on it and the length of time the forces are in effect. Since the distance the arrow has to travel to exit the war bows is greater than the distance traveled by a crossbow bolt, the length of time the bow string is in contact with the arrow is greater than that of the crossbow bolt. As a result of this, a bow will accelerate projectiles to a higher velocity than an equal pound draw crossbow that has a shorter draw length. Crossbow designers can compensate for this by increasing the draw weight so that the force exerted by the crossbow string on the bolt is greater. What this means is that a shorter draw length crossbow will not necessarily perform better against a target than a longer draw length bow even if the crossbow has a much greater draw weight. It should be mentioned that this analysis assumes that the only forces acting on the arrows/bolts is the force exerted by the weapon strings which is not true in the context of the armor tests. With that being said, the effects of gravity, air resistance, and the rotation of the Earth will be kept minimal if the weapons are fired at close range and the projectiles do not complete their trajectory.

  • @aixzi_official
    @aixzi_official23 күн бұрын

    💙

  • @majordakka5743
    @majordakka574328 күн бұрын

    Wonder what the hardness is for the various armor pieces. Would be interesting to measure the hardness of the armor and arrowheads and compare the difference.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Yeah for sure…gonna need a few weeks to repair the arrow inventory

  • @dequitem

    @dequitem

    28 күн бұрын

    I am the one how made the armor, but I never tested the hardening. It's hardened with water.

  • @mattdefreitas525
    @mattdefreitas52527 күн бұрын

    Back with a bang this was great man, lots of fun and some gnarly damage. How was you're holiday?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thanks, my friend, this is my favorite video so far I have ever done. The holiday was great fun with the family and fireworks.

  • @mattdefreitas525

    @mattdefreitas525

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 it's been so awesome seeing you have fun and doing better and better and getting more attention and experiences. You're a good dude so it's awesome to see

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Thanks so much my friend, It’s truly been an absolute blast to share and make videos like this. Just an absolute joy

  • @jasontsang2232
    @jasontsang223228 күн бұрын

    When will you move up to 200lbs??

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Man I am trying everyday haha

  • @DuxLindy
    @DuxLindy28 күн бұрын

    have you tried waxing the arrowheads? I remember todd doing some testing and it made a difference. he also did greased shafts and that was doubling his penetration on shields, but i forget exactly what the shield was made of. I think it's conditional on being able to penetrate at all in the first place, but it might make 1/4" into 1"

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    If that’s true that’s nuts. I have tried it on a wooden shield but it did not make a huge difference on my own anecdotal testing

  • @DuxLindy

    @DuxLindy

    28 күн бұрын

    ​@@dashrendar5320 for sure it is. check his videos called "Does WAX on ARROW HEADS Do Anything?" and "Does a greased shaft penetrate deeper?" in both cases it made a difference for him, but it could just be what he's testing against.

  • @JayJay-sb3ib
    @JayJay-sb3ib28 күн бұрын

    TERBAiK 💪💪💪💪🙏

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    💪🏹

  • @Travgard
    @Travgard17 күн бұрын

    I would really like to see a video on combat slingshots, according to some texts the slingers were extremely precise and could sometimes be killed instantly with a well-placed shot.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    17 күн бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/fYmkp7eyirfOps4.htmlsi=gCd86W01vv9jZvdg Sling galore 💪🪨

  • @Travgard

    @Travgard

    17 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 oh ok there was already a video 😂 The video is really cool !

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    17 күн бұрын

    Thanks man! Glad you enjoyed it

  • @antoniogarcia6111
    @antoniogarcia611124 күн бұрын

    Buen video, saludos desde México

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    24 күн бұрын

    Gracias my amigo

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm676928 күн бұрын

    🗿👍

  • @bolt7305
    @bolt730528 күн бұрын

    when is your birthday if you don't mind me asking?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    End of July my friend! So almost there!

  • @Kingdomkey123678
    @Kingdomkey12367820 күн бұрын

    On a full arm harness the gauntlet would overlap with the lower canon or vambrace at the forearm Meaning that first hit probably would have been stopped.

  • @joeyvanhaperen7715
    @joeyvanhaperen771527 күн бұрын

    I very recently bought my first brigendine sow I'm exited to see how this one is gona hold up. Also wait 1,6mm steel is extreemly thick, that explains why my fullplate ended up overbuild, cause I thaught that 1mm was way to thin. 😅 It's like 40 kilo which is bassicly still in range for tournement armor, but for war armor which was the intention it's overbuild. 🤣

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Dude, that would be rough to walk around with, the Brigandine should be a lot easier haha

  • @joeyvanhaperen7715

    @joeyvanhaperen7715

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 ooow no that's not with a brig that's with a cuiras. I have multiple armors. Also I'm only 1,6m weighing 60 kilo's, but I'm build like a chimp, sow I can put it on myself, train with it for a half hour or more depending on how hot it is and take it off myself. It does take a hour to recover though. 😅

  • @GiovannaBassani-ve3wm
    @GiovannaBassani-ve3wm11 күн бұрын

    I could absolutely draw a 120+ lbs bow! with a pencil, of course

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    11 күн бұрын

    Haha. Winner of a comment

  • @lennyerdody
    @lennyerdody27 күн бұрын

    I wonder how horseback assisted javelin (like in the Scythian javelin video) would behave against armor.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    That would be cool to see, but not something I think I would be able to do, I really don’t know how to ride horses haha

  • @draqusdrache
    @draqusdrache15 күн бұрын

    the whole crossbow thing ist just like people are: bigger poundage = bigger damage or more speed, not thinking of the factor the the bow has way more space to accelerate the arrow and the crossbow not really. that is the reason why crossbows go to so high drawweights, because they have to compete with the velocity, or lets say the output of a bow with a lot shorter acelleration way

  • @JAMES.ARAGORN
    @JAMES.ARAGORN19 күн бұрын

    Hey dash it'd be really cool if you show us how to draw English longbows correctly. Some of our bow arms hurt when drawing them. Greatly appreciated

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    19 күн бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmyLq7OCgdvShpc.htmlsi=sZAd0iXomoPQmTdi I go over it a bit in this video. Let me know if that helps.

  • @ChristopherTroupe
    @ChristopherTroupe27 күн бұрын

    Do you build these warbows yourself or buy from a particular bowyer?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    I get most of them from “fairbow” my friend

  • @digitaldogs233
    @digitaldogs23328 күн бұрын

    This was so fun, loved it. I've always wondered this since i used to ride horses and if your not really hugging the saddle with your legs is pretty easy to fall off lol. So, I'm wondering with the heaviest warbow you have would it be possible to dismount a person from his horse. Easy test, you could use Bungie chords to just hook on the legs then under the saddle so it would simulate just a sitting position. But would it 1, stagger him, or 2, completely dismount him. We know how fast an arrow will go, but what about its actual impact force, is it enough to even stagger him, because even that would be impressive. I personally doubt it, but then i don't know the force that a strike would take.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Thanks. It’s the most fun I have had making a video thus far, truly a blast and such an honor to have good quality armor made by a pro. I can try that haha, would be fun to see

  • @hjorturerlend

    @hjorturerlend

    28 күн бұрын

    Nah, not even remotely enough energy for that. Also medieval war saddles had rear plates, it's hard to even knock someone out of them with a lance.

  • @digitaldogs233

    @digitaldogs233

    28 күн бұрын

    @@hjorturerlend True, just thought on a modern saddle be fun trying lol

  • @richardcope9803
    @richardcope980328 күн бұрын

    Hope you and the family enjoyed your vacation. Quick question, what did real maces weigh back in the day? These are very fun

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Historically they are like 2 or 3 lbs at most, this thing is crazy oversized. Just like a novelty haha but so so fun

  • @richardcope9803

    @richardcope9803

    28 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 You have clearly found a nerd paradise🤣 I really love the content. You seem like a guy I would love to hang out with. One other question. Have you ever tried a flail?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    No those things terrify me haha

  • @richardcope9803

    @richardcope9803

    28 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 yeah, they look wicked

  • @dequitem

    @dequitem

    28 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 you have to visit me in Germany, than you can test my weapons on some more of my armor pieces. Including a flail.

  • @jonathanengdahl9045
    @jonathanengdahl904526 күн бұрын

    You should compare the war bow with a composite crossbow rather than with a steel crossbow. Andreas Bichler makes composite crossbows twice as efficient as Tods steel bows with equal draw weight

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    26 күн бұрын

    That would be super cool to do one day. So much stuff I wanna do…so much money though haha

  • @jonathanengdahl9045

    @jonathanengdahl9045

    26 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 There were competitions in the 14th and 15th century over who could span the most powerful crossbow with a belt and hook. Sort of like weight lifting. Unfortunately composite crossbows are not easy nor cheap to get a hold on.

  • @individualinstitute2685
    @individualinstitute268514 күн бұрын

    Where are you from to be able to use medieval weapons outside? It's not illegal?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    14 күн бұрын

    Haha no not at all. Bows at legal as long as you have space…guns…not so much…

  • @yowza234
    @yowza23428 күн бұрын

    No padding underneath the helmet?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Haha I actually forgot the arming cap in my garage. So unfortunately that was missing, I saw it the next morning and realized I had forgotten to put it on

  • @jadenkim-xs2ro
    @jadenkim-xs2ro27 күн бұрын

    Pls use the recurve bow too you said you will use it and I think it will go good against the armor

  • @goranstanimirovic3317
    @goranstanimirovic331728 күн бұрын

    My friend why dont you test mr bow anymore?😮

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    I am working to get some proper arrows for it. I have not done that yet and I wanna be sure it’s used well.

  • @JAMES.ARAGORN
    @JAMES.ARAGORN27 күн бұрын

    Hey dash it'd be really cool if you could collab with joe gibbs and todds workshop and do couple videos with them👌👌🇺🇲

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Man, that would be amazing, but Joe is such a better archer than me. Maybe I could do something with the sling, but to be an archer with him would just be redundant.

  • @ynk_8
    @ynk_828 күн бұрын

    Great as always! I wonder how that horsebow would have done...

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it, I am going to get some arrows for it soon. I want ones that are made more for it.

  • @ynk_8

    @ynk_8

    28 күн бұрын

    Fair enough! That will be fun! Take care, mate!

  • @philozoraptor6808

    @philozoraptor6808

    28 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 Is it Tiron or Despot? Serbians and Byzantines were Europeans so arrows used might have been similiar to what English and French archers used (especially in certain periods when mercenaries from these areas were present). Especially since they faced and to some degree used plate armor.

  • @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510

    @EuTrabalhoParaSagres510

    27 күн бұрын

    ​​@@philozoraptor6808warbow arrows are much thicker I think, as well as longer. And differently shaped. (Barreled)

  • @philozoraptor6808

    @philozoraptor6808

    27 күн бұрын

    @@EuTrabalhoParaSagres510 I meant difference between "asiatic" and western european variants of warbow arrows. Byzantines and Serbs might be somewhere in between (the bow in question is based on Serbian frescos inspired by Byzantine frescos / culture).

  • @chainsawchanselour5452
    @chainsawchanselour545228 күн бұрын

    Tbh i love knights fighting I grew up wanting to be a knight But I cant stand buhart, they are often just so sluggish and slow

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Oh man really? I love it, I love the heavy plodding attacks and the grappling aspect of it especially

  • @Red-238
    @Red-23827 күн бұрын

    Can you maybe test the armor against a pilum?.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    I don’t have one yet, unfortunately but that’s high on the list

  • @Red-238

    @Red-238

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 well that’s unfortunate, but i can always wait, anyway thank you for the entertaining videos that you post and nice shooting, have a good day/night.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Most welcome, so Happy you enjoy it! Yes I am building and breaking the inventory constantly 😂

  • @bolt7305
    @bolt730528 күн бұрын

    Compare an Abbasid sword to a Roman sword; it will be fun to watch.

  • @BeeOppresion

    @BeeOppresion

    27 күн бұрын

    Abbasid swords? Arabian, Persian, or Turkic? There are multiple kinds of middle eastern swords of that era. And what do you mean by Roman swords (I know that you only want to see this matchup because hurr durr Islam vs the west)? There are Roman Empire's from before CE up until the late mediaeval era, steel quality and weapon design vary 😊

  • @bolt7305

    @bolt7305

    27 күн бұрын

    @@BeeOppresion You’re right; the diversity in sword designs and metallurgy over time is fascinating! When I mentioned Abbasid swords, I was referring to the iconic Arabian scimitars known for their curved blades and craftsmanship. As for the Roman swords, I was thinking of the classic gladius from the early Roman Empire. It’s not just about a historical face-off but appreciating how different cultures approached sword-making. Each sword tells a story of its era and the skills of its craftsmen. How about you? Do you have a favorite type of historical sword or weapon?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    That would be very cool, I have a Roman spatha so I just need the scimitar next 😁

  • @voncth5791
    @voncth579127 күн бұрын

    8:24 the arrow breaks before hitting?!!

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    It does almost look that way, it just happened so immediately on impact and it was such a straight shot that it just obliterated

  • @mikeromney4712
    @mikeromney471226 күн бұрын

    Oh dear....all the shattered arrows..... One problem is not hitting the target and the arrow goes somewhere into the undergrowth never to be seen again....the other problem is hitting the target.....^^

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    26 күн бұрын

    Hahahaha so true, so much fun to try but now I have like 2 weeks worth of worth to rebuild the arrow arsenal ha

  • @mikeromney4712

    @mikeromney4712

    26 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 I feel you......^^

  • @jeremiahkindel9301
    @jeremiahkindel930127 күн бұрын

    So when are you and admin going to nerd out on the unsubscribe podcast?

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/goqLrpugpbjFoMY.htmlsi=McykkBHDKU_WKk59 Already did 😁

  • @individualinstitute2685
    @individualinstitute268514 күн бұрын

    My girlfriend said you need to be riding a horse and shoot arrows

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    14 күн бұрын

    Haha gotta learn to ride a horse first

  • @philozoraptor6808
    @philozoraptor680828 күн бұрын

    Superb test. Just a question, the 155 lb bow and arrows you used, are those the 120 gram arrows and bow that shoots them at 190+ FPS? So are we actually talking 200 joules (that is freaking lot for a longbow, but it might be due to high efficiency with heavy arrows)? Also, while during battle those arrow would be most likely shot from a distance, if they were shot against charging infantry (some 4 m/s speed) or cavalry (10-15 m/s) it would increase the energy of the arrow by at least 14% or 36-56% respectively which would more than cover for the loss of energy at the distance (roughly 15-20% loss at 100 metres with heavy arrow shot from warbow). Finally, some types of crossbows might perform better than warbows. For example 600+ pound composite or yew crossbows (they are much more efficient than steel crossbows but they require more care, are more vulnerable to weather, are less reliable and are more expensive to make) could shoot 200+ joule bolts, however they take long time to reload (cranequin etc) and are often used in teams where one or two guys reload while one guy shoots.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    28 күн бұрын

    Yes that is the same bow. All good points, they charge and speed would help cancel out the speed differential I think. Also it’s true some crossbows could outperform as well. But it’s darned close (steel struggles for sure)

  • @Kingdomkey123678
    @Kingdomkey12367820 күн бұрын

    You would not wear a mail coif underneath that style of helmet

  • @jimmythehand7409
    @jimmythehand740927 күн бұрын

    Titanium or steel? I know that guy uses titanium for the plate he actually wears

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    This was steel, he uses titanium for his stuff 100% but he sent me steel for more historical accuracy

  • @jimmythehand7409

    @jimmythehand7409

    27 күн бұрын

    @dashrendar5320 got ya. I'm trying to get a buhurt set together. I wish dequitem was in the US. I'd definitely take out a loan and drop 20k on titanium armor.

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Dude I would probably do the same haha

  • @jimmythehand7409

    @jimmythehand7409

    27 күн бұрын

    @dashrendar5320 more time to train right lol I've been training for buhurt the last two years. Gained 10 lbs of muscle this year which I'm happy about. Maybe I'll find an armorer by the time I'm 35

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    I feel you man, I am turning 39 in just a couple weeks

  • @ellocokill4897
    @ellocokill489727 күн бұрын

    10 dlrs hatchet vs armor

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Haha I can guarantee with 1000% certainty a hatchet will do literally nothing to hardened steel like this

  • @ellocokill4897

    @ellocokill4897

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 Let's go brother just for the laughs

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    27 күн бұрын

    Haha alright your on. Next video I do I will toss a throwing axe at the hardened plate 💪

  • @ellocokill4897

    @ellocokill4897

    27 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 thanks bro

  • @AandKify
    @AandKify23 күн бұрын

    Late Medieval Armor vs WarBow better title, give credit to dequitem in video but dont think its needed in title

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    23 күн бұрын

    Yeah, you’re probably right, I am actually really bad at doing the thumbnails and titles. That’s like the hardest part for me.

  • @AandKify

    @AandKify

    23 күн бұрын

    @@dashrendar5320 Did some quick search on google trends for key words and medieval armor and warbow were top. Warbow vs Medieval armor was also better compared to bow vs armor. I would # it anyway. I would also tag your channel by Warbow, Dash Rendar. Also I would tag a lot more your videos with a lot more keywords. So what I am trying to say use simple keyword your audience would search on youtube. The sipler you can transfer your message in thubnail and title the better look at admin CrossBow vs Warbow and compare it to yours. Like you could risk it there and go = 600lb vs 165lb is CrossBow Better? or =165lb LongBow is Stronger than 600lb CrossBow. Coplete nuts would go 165lb Englishman is stronger that 600lb Frenchman. And go on ranting how French are fat and lazy so they need crossbows LOL.

  • @jacknemo8021
    @jacknemo802116 күн бұрын

    Not to self 1.2mm armor..

  • @dashrendar5320

    @dashrendar5320

    16 күн бұрын

    Haha smart move

  • @pyrobarbu6173
    @pyrobarbu617328 күн бұрын

    That's quite short range

  • @kombucha_director

    @kombucha_director

    27 күн бұрын

    I think that's the idea - to test what would happen to a knight if an archer had him in an optimal position