Shout-out to LPL for showing the entire planet how to break into my home

@blazeburner4039

Жыл бұрын

This is my concern too, surely people will use these exploits faster than fixing them, though it is necessary since this technique must be quite well known already before Anon tells LPL about this. Plus the drain design kinda sus as if it was intended. Nometheless I think it is better to know about your lock rather than not.

@TwistyTrav

Жыл бұрын

Better to know your home is easy to break into, rather than believing it is secure.

@urbaniv

Жыл бұрын

Schlage already reacted and out out an information to all the customers how to fix it. That's because if the pressure such videos create.

@the_kombinator

Жыл бұрын

Take some epoxy and cover the hole. He just showed you the vulnerability, fix it.

@TwistyTrav

Жыл бұрын

@@the_kombinator The drain hole is there for a reason - to protect the electronic components inside. Blocking it could fry the internals if water builds up. Then you have a useless lock that can't be opened at all.

"Helm's Deep has one weakness. It's outer wall is solid rock, but for a small culvert on its base, which is little more than a drain."

@brillopower1492

Жыл бұрын

Nicely done.

@TheFelmaster

Жыл бұрын

This should be the top comment :D

@killfacebalor2474

Жыл бұрын

Criminally underrated comment

@jimnelsen2064

Жыл бұрын

Well played Sir, Well played indeed!

@kineahora8736

Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the Death Star!! Same shtick…

LPL: Pulls out paper clip. Executive: "Our lock is 100% Pick proof." LPL: Starts unfolding paperclip. Executive: "Our lock is 100% pick proof, right?"

@Gonzie6

11 ай бұрын

Well they didn’t say paperclip proof

@chunkymunkey9182

10 ай бұрын

Lock Developer: "Well...umm..."

@Th3-WhOwOl3y-TrEeNiT3a

10 ай бұрын

LPL:- *"I"* will be the judge of that.

@sharedknowledge6640

10 ай бұрын

Schlage doesn’t seem to care about making secure locks. They’ve demonstrated that over and over again. They seem to be a greedy profit hungry company that spends far more on marketing than making a better product. Everyone should avoid their junk products.

@Zeguyfromgermany

10 ай бұрын

PR guy: “Pick proof?! Let me see that brochure. Oh, ha-ha, we meant «prick-proof»” SCNR

I'd like to take a moment to appreciate that LPL videos are always without cuts, just single-take perfection. What a Legend.

@Alacritous

11 ай бұрын

It's a thing in the locksport community. When you're videoing yourself opening a lock, you're not allowed to edit the video to prevent accusations of shenanigans.

@OoooooooLongJohnson

10 ай бұрын

@@Alacritousgood point

@nihi

10 ай бұрын

​@@Alacritouspeople still accuse him of faking though

@graverobber575

9 ай бұрын

420 likes, not messing that up

@poochy2479

9 ай бұрын

not quite true, there's ONE video with a cut in it. but the ice cream lock was a damn funny cut lol

A surefire way to have your products featured on this channel is to include "pick proof" as part of the sales pitch

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Just asking for a bone to be picked with lol

@Najolve

Жыл бұрын

Lord Voldemort hasn't been featured yet and it looks like his nose should be "pick proof".

@JurgenErhard

Жыл бұрын

@@Najolve Riddle's "nose" isn't a product… ;-)

@Dr.JustIsWrong

Жыл бұрын

@@JurgenErhard Probably because it's not in stock..

@NoLongerBreathedIn

Жыл бұрын

Or as the brand name, if only for humor value.

I can just imagine Schlage's top executive having an emergency meeting after this video dropped 😂

@marvindebot3264

Жыл бұрын

Tomorrow morning at Schlage HQ will be "interesting", yes.

@Fr564

Жыл бұрын

Arr you kidding? They'll leave as is, its been 8 years already, they aren't going to change it

@bigliftm

Жыл бұрын

Houston we have a LPL problem... 😂

@outseeker

Жыл бұрын

lol i like calling them schlang :)

@michaelmoorrees3585

Жыл бұрын

Is Schlang, Schlage's man part ?

Gotta love when it takes him INFINITELY longer to disassemble the lock than to just open it even without a key

@cye2310

Жыл бұрын

🗿

@chrstfer2452

10 ай бұрын

Infinitely longer? You still sitting there watching this 3 minute video?

@omgnsg

10 ай бұрын

@@chrstfer2452 yes in fact i am

@KingMoronProductions

8 ай бұрын

How the heck did you put that big blue picture in your comment 😮🤯

@jackemled_but_gay

7 ай бұрын

​@@KingMoronProductionsI think KZread has custom emotes for channel members.

Since the hole is angled towards the exploit region, I wonder if it's actually intentionally there to allow for locksmiths to unlock it in the event of something going wrong, etc. If that's the case, it's no wonder it's marketed towards building managers, since that would be a bigger concern than their tenants getting broken into.

@MegaZeta

11 ай бұрын

And regardless, for a great many landlords, “Tenants won’t know and can’t do anything about it if they do” will win out over replacing any of these locks.

@hunterjohnston1330

10 ай бұрын

That was my thought. If you block that hole up so it can’t be picked, what do you do when the electronics fail?

@xpusostomos

10 ай бұрын

​@@hunterjohnston1330 you drill a hole and buy a new one

@destrik4115

10 ай бұрын

Just easier engineering. Easier to work with and ignore gravity than it is to go against it. Drain hole at the bottom and electirc parts above. just makes sense from a design perspective

@chunkymunkey9182

10 ай бұрын

@@xpusostomos Or replace the batteries. If it is a hardware failure, just simply take the screws out and replace it with another.

i'm glad to see the designer behind the death star has had a prolific career in the lockmaking industry!

@ZepG

Жыл бұрын

@kerricaine You don't even have to be a Jedi to open this lock lol.

@anthonyobryan3485

Жыл бұрын

The designer of the Death Star was actually highly competent. The vulnerability he left in there was intentional and subtle, while the design flaw of this lock is not.

@flyingtentacle7631

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyobryan3485 "highly competent" Meanwhile, he's designing a ship that vents fluid directly into space. The death star is a joke, even by Star Wars standards. If the thing was actually designed that way, they wouldn't even need to blow up the reactor, just cut off the supply chain of the massive amounts of coolant that the death star would be trucking in from another planet, daily. Then the death star will explode all on its own without even having to touch it. At least this little lock requires you to touch it to defeat it.

@roysammons2445

Жыл бұрын

I suppose with the Death Star at least you needed a competent pilot, here just a bit of wire will do the trick. You don't even have anyone shooting at you in the process.

@KipWittchen

Жыл бұрын

The more lock picking lawyer videos I watch, the more I realize the most believable part of star wars is building a giant death star that has a critically easy to take advantage of flaw

That seems less like a "drain hole" and more like a "security bypass." That exploit is so ridiculously obvious that I can't believe it was a mistake.

@plpGTR

Жыл бұрын

It looks like it's a manufacturing thing. The bent over part must be "cut in" to stay flush with the rest of the metal sheet after being bent 90°. (not talking about the drain hole, but the inner inlay sheet metal)

@kseliascryser5259

Жыл бұрын

I like how the drain hole is even slanted - to make the exploit even easier.

@omargoodman2999

Жыл бұрын

@@plpGTR It doesn't necessarily need to be single-function. If they need to have that indentation anyway for ease of manufacturing, then they can arrange the assembly in such a way that it "just so happens" to point downwards so it also functions as a drain hole for accumulated condensation. And _additionally,_ it can serve the extra purpose of being an emergency mechanical bypass for when the lock fails and it needs a way to be opened. I have to wonder what the installation instructions mention; do they specify to position the hole in such a way to make it more cumbersome to enact such a bypass? Are there additional fittings included in the installation kit to block access to the hole while still allowing it to do its drainage job and be available for emergency bypass when needed by removing said fitting? I'm reminded of when, iirc, an Air Force budgetary committee asked for justification on why a particularly expensive power wrench was needed. The response was that it was a multi-function tool: it could not only tighten bolts, but loosen them as well.

@milhooz

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not a drain hole, otherwise it would not be slanted that way. It's a real life backdoor...

@TmStorm96

Жыл бұрын

@@plpGTR this metal doesn’t appear to be bent though it would most likely be cast. Meaning the slants were intended and I agree with other users it’s most likely designed as a bypass.

I love how this is literally a mechanically unpickable lock except for a small hole in the bottom.

@StarkRG

8 ай бұрын

The only thing that's 100% secure is a black hole.

@j9c863

7 ай бұрын

Literal security hole

@Josh-fh5ox

5 ай бұрын

It’s like the Deathstar.

@j9c863

5 ай бұрын

@@Josh-fh5ox That's actually a good example lmao

Finally picked the file cabinet in my office with a paper clip after watching these videos. Feeling pretty confident lol.

@OoooooooLongJohnson

10 ай бұрын

Nice

“A hat tip to the viewer that showed me this anonymous exploit”. Ex Schlage employee just got the greatest dismissal revenge ever.

For once, a smart lock not defeated by a magnet?! I LOVE IT!

@JohnSmithShields

Жыл бұрын

That is tomorrow's video.

@TheQuark6789

Жыл бұрын

I don't think this is better....

@chrislaf89

Жыл бұрын

@@TheQuark6789 Yes, but the fix for this is something anyone could knock out

@legallyfree2955

Жыл бұрын

I was going to comment "hands up if you thought he was going for the magnet", but the second I saw the comment section I knew I was far too late.

@Boxygirl96

Жыл бұрын

@@TheQuark6789 idk, the issue is easily solvable on the consumer side and it has avoided the common flaw among its genre. That means it’s effectively defended itself against an industry wide exploit that someone targeting the genre in general would tend to use Basically they passed the electronic version of the bump key test

for college dorms, it would prolly be feasible to 3D print a small high-infill insert that fits in the area between the two bottom screw holes that still allows the drain hole work as a drain but blocks access to the mechanism by being braced against the casing ...but most colleges will prolly spend hundreds of thousands to replace the locks and charge students for it 🙃

@darwinwins

11 ай бұрын

3D print? no, just a bit of superglue.

@mrkv4k

11 ай бұрын

@@darwinwins You need that hole, because otherwise it's gonna get damped when the temperature falls.

@mrkv4k

11 ай бұрын

They should really just change the mold. It's an easy fix, just add a pocket that will block tool insertion, but won't block water.

@Joe45-91

11 ай бұрын

Yea they wouldn't have put a drain hole unless they found it necessary during testing. Especially if these are mounted on an external door more subject to the elements those electronic components would likely stop functioning correctly.

@mrkv4k

11 ай бұрын

@@Joe45-91 The case is metal, so when the temperature drops, all the moisture from the air inside is going to condensate on that metal. Without that wall, you'll get a small puddle on the bottom.

I just tried it on my apartment lock and it worked, it is a slightly different model and outdated, but that is literally terrifying. I had no idea what I was doing but I did it on the first try

@escpng

2 ай бұрын

My entire apartment building has the same locks. That is so frustrating.

That drill took longer to get those screws out than you did to unlock the door... major props

@h.a.9880

Жыл бұрын

No kidding, a giant screw, that takes a minute to unscrew, would be a better locking mechanism.

@josephmother2659

10 ай бұрын

@@h.a.9880 lmao just a bunch of 10 foot screws

@wolfclaw3812

9 ай бұрын

@@h.a.9880 Isn't that how bank vaults work? If you try to break into the vault, you'll either raise the dead with the noise or take all night. I think.

There's a story about a man who was tasked by a wealthy noble to make a lock that could never be picked. The story goes that a particularly audacious thief would pick the lock on the front door at night and make off with a variety of jewelry and silver utensils which irritated the noble to no end, so he went to the town blacksmith and tasked him with designing a lock that would be 100% unpickable, then install it onto ever exterior door in his home. The blacksmith tried to tell him that no lock was completely impenetrable, but the nobleman would not relent, so the blacksmith agreed. Days went by, and the nobleman received word that the blacksmith had completed his task, and that he should take a stroll while the new locks were installed. When the nobleman returned, he found a rather impressive looking lock installed on every door. "No one will ever be able to get through this lock, milord" the blacksmith said. "Splendid" the nobleman replied, "but where is the hole for the key?" "Hole? For a key?" the blacksmith asked. "Yes, a keyhole, so that I can unlock my door." "Sorry milord. A lock that can never be picked, is a lock that can never be opened." The noble was furious. "How am I to enter my home, then!?" The blacksmith scratched his head for a moment, then said "Wait for the thief. When he breaks in through a window, ask him to unlock the door from the other side"

@bjolly8924

Жыл бұрын

😅😅 Brilliant!!

@redtsun67

Жыл бұрын

@@cabagezzz Not like it actually happened bro it's just a story

@scottrichmond3548

Жыл бұрын

@@cabagezzz not with that attitude he doesn't

@MrEmueyes

Жыл бұрын

@Cabage and only the uneducated use the word "bruh" so you kinda cancel yourself out there

@Joe_Panes

Жыл бұрын

​@@cabagezzz In the UK, we have a House of Lords. Some of those in the House of Lords, are nobles. Thus, a nobleman can be referred to as my lord, and be correct. However, quite simply it could be a case that: 1) The blacksmith is just engaging in good customer service 2) The nobleman is the owner of the land that the blacksmith lives on, hence making him the lord over the blacksmith.

After watching tons of LPL's clips, Ive come to realize "100% Pick-Proof" actually means that LPL has 100% Proof that the lock can be picked.😏

@FischOderAal

6 ай бұрын

Technically, was it picked if there is no keyway?

@sreynolds777

5 ай бұрын

Fill it with solder

@LegDayLas

4 ай бұрын

At least this one has an easy way to fix is, just weld the drain closed, or at least weld the right side closed so water can still get out while also blocking a wire from reaching the mechanism. Most of the flaws he finds are fundamentally impossible for the average person to fix.

@user-kz4ke8mg4r

3 ай бұрын

​@@LegDayLaschewing gum! 😂

As soon as you said RFID, I knew exactly what the flaws was gonna be. I used to be the guy tasked with throwing out old or unsold opened product at a hardware store and I saw stuff like this all the time. RFID and electronic locks almost ALWAYS have a physical, mechanical weakness.

@dado__

Жыл бұрын

Anyone who works in the tech industry hates these, too, because they're *also* flawed from the cybersecurity POV. Anything that uses the credentials of a smart device to open it is a thing that can be cheesed through by compromising the device, not to mention issues with the actual computer security aboard the lock.

@dado__

11 ай бұрын

@@XCodes "Locks" indeed.

@made.online2149

11 ай бұрын

@@dado__ mechanical locks can also be cheesed if you have access to the device. unfortunately, physical keys can't receive software updates.

@dado__

11 ай бұрын

@@made.online2149 You can't cheese a mechanical lock from miles away, tho, and just like how Master Lock never updates their designs pretty much all smart locks never get security updates.

@djinn666

10 ай бұрын

​@@dado__There's no point opening a lock from a mile away though. You still need to be there to get inside.

Schlage Design Team: "He didn't use a pick." Schlage Marketing Team: "Good as advertised."

@Scyth3934

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@johndododoe1411

Жыл бұрын

Those would both be marketing and tech support arguments. Design team would mention the no pick excuse but focus on redesigning the labyrinth navigated by the wire. A more fundamentals focused engineer would redesign the motor linkage to not be pushable.

@MrStrizver

Жыл бұрын

A pick: Object(s) inserted into the internals of a lock and manipulated in a nondestructive manner that allows unauthorized entry. I see an unpickable lock that was just picked.

@Reevin

Жыл бұрын

​@Chris Strizver this is exactly how I would define a lock pick. After all a paper clip is the cliche pick to get out of handcuffs.

@somethings6015

Жыл бұрын

Wrong, A wire is the most basic of picks. I picked my first lock with a bent paper clip, then made a set of basic picks from spring wire. I opened many master and kwikset locks with those hand made wire picks. I still have custom wires in my pick set today decades later. BTW to block the hole attack just cut a common nail to length, crush it in to the into the gap, with the head toward the internal bypass hole; correct size and length nail should block and bind any wire attack.

Wow. I expected you were shorting the solenoid. I didn't expect it was going to be nearly as simple as, "I nudged a piece of plastic up."

@camilandtati

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts too until I noticed no batteries in the unit and the cable wasn’t connected either

@Murgoh

Жыл бұрын

I expected a strong magnet.

Years ago, I heard a security expert say “you’re never safe. If someone wants to do you harm, they can. Most people just don’t have people wanting to harm them.” Locked doors just give the illusion of safety.

@WBWBWBB

3 ай бұрын

I've sold lockpicks to international hackers who get worried that my credit card reader is bugged, while I worry that all these crafty people will steal stuff. Turns out, 99.999% of people are basically honest and decent, and if they weren't society would crumble in a day

Someone actually wrote an article on this video, and I found it and died laughing. They were like "This guy is amazing! I literally don't believe in locks anymore." And I wanted to comment "you must be new", but I don't comment on online journal articles of dubious origin, no matter how good they are.

@Megan4434

Жыл бұрын

Ooh, link?

@cameronjadewallace

Жыл бұрын

@@Megan4434 mm, I'd have to look for it, it was a rando article nearly a month or two ago

@666222333111

Жыл бұрын

Google generated content.

@Capt-Intrepid

2 ай бұрын

Most locks are just fine because the vast majority of criminals use brute force. It's far more important to use a good quality deadbolt (grade 1 or 2) WITH reinforced strike AND 3" screws (hinges too). Otherwise most doors can be easily be kicked in. And never open your door to strangers - no exceptions. Also consider an alarm system.

Schlage: Pick -proof! LPL: Unfortunately, you've made the very common mistake of making your lock, which leaves it open to the exploit I'm about to explain.

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Is that false advertising too?

@cerdi_99

Жыл бұрын

@@Eduardo_Espinoza it's technically correct, so no

@piotrmadalinski8618

Жыл бұрын

Nobody claimed it was wire-proof...

@XanCanth

Жыл бұрын

@@cerdi_99 even if I advertise my brand of wire as a Schlage-Resistant Lockpick?

@tripn4days

Жыл бұрын

😅😅😅

When he puts LOL in the title, you know it’s bad 😂

@cmb1972

Жыл бұрын

LPL LOL

@stevengilland3433

Жыл бұрын

It's true but anyways that doesn't cost alarm, sorry Jeanette how are you?

This reminds me of when I lived in military barracks on active duty. We all had key card locks with metal security doors with metal frames. Soldiers would lose their keys daily, and require a master key from battalion to open them. I got locked out one day and decided to get in on my own. Turned out the door frame was so cheap, I could use a long 20mm wrench, and wedge it in-between the door and frame, and bend the frame far enough to pop the door open.

Drain hole could be angled different like a zig zag or snake shape and also put some fine mesh at each turn of the zig zag so that water still escapes but provides difficulty to sneak a wire through multiple zig zag layers. Also don’t angle the “drain hole” close to the unlocking mechanism.

@littleyokai_0

8 ай бұрын

I agree. Honestly if they still want the drain hole to work as a mechanical bypass they could improve the security by zigzagging the hole as you've mentioned and maybe they could have some sort of mechanism with pins that slide up and down so when you put an object of the right shape in, it'll activate the mechanism in case of electronic failure.

@charliekahn4205

8 ай бұрын

I think they kept it this way because if water actually does get in, the lock itself would fail. And the need for people to get into their own house is much more important than the need to keep others out.

You can't tell me they angled that drain hole towards a gap in the housing on accident. That was a backdoor intentionally put in there by the manufacturer. It's not a flaw, it's a feature.

@mgzuck

Жыл бұрын

I mean, of course, how else could a locksmith charge $200 for getting into it for them......

@yandyyay

Жыл бұрын

you know I'm sort of inclined to agree that its a back door of sorts... that batteries clearly go on the inside of the door, what happens if they are stone dead... sure the lock will warn you the batts are going flat but what if you just don't act on it?

@mrgw98

Жыл бұрын

@@yandyyay Those two metal dots on the front towards the bottom are there for you to hold a 9V battery to it. This powers the electronics and allows you to scan your credentials and get inside in the event the internal batteries died. If anything, it is there for if the motor/electronics fails.

@MrDerpy-ns6sy

Жыл бұрын

​​@mrgw982 no way that's pretty smart if that's true. I'm sure it's just a pair of lights but meh

@nazfrde

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing.

Schlage: "Lockpicking Lawyer agrees: this lock is strictly pick and bump proof!"

@anotheruser9876

Жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Cold-FX

@johnwilburn

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, just like when high carb and sugar junk food is advertised as “fat free.”

@shura0107

Жыл бұрын

They are technically correct, the best kind of correct.

@r0bw00d

Жыл бұрын

But not hack proof, is it, Schlage?

@dhayes907

Жыл бұрын

​@@shura0107 beat me to it

Schlage: It's pick proof! Also Schlage: Happy Opposite Day!

both LPL and mcnally are my favorite lock pickers. I love how "official" and "professional" LPL seems, where-as I love the choas of mcnally destroying masterlocks reputation

The core security flaw is putting the coupling mechanism (and electronics! 😱) on the outside of the door rather than the inside.

@yandyyay

Жыл бұрын

not really, you would have to smash it to get at the electronics, any lock can be defeated with enough brute force

@Merennulli

Жыл бұрын

You can't put them inside while being compatible with existing installed doors. It has to manage the tail movement from the outside.

@_Stormfather

Жыл бұрын

​@@yandyyay yes but it leaves open the possibility that some non-destructive exploit will be found, as we see in the video here. If the same flaw existed, but was inaccessible from the outside, it wouldn't be a problem.

@jon_j__

Жыл бұрын

@@Merennulli Why is it impossible to put the mechanism on the inside? There must be some way to pass the outer handle's movement through to the inside, so that the outer handle actuates the bolt on the inside of the door (if the credentials are correct). It's hard to explain in words, but I'm thinking of something like: The outer handle is connected to a rod which goes through to the inside; this rod is encased in a hollow cylinder which is coupled to the bolt; the inside handle is directly coupled to the hollow cylinder; the rod is only coupled to the hollow cylinder if the credentials are correct (otherwise it turns freely).

@jasonriddell

Жыл бұрын

@@Merennulli different tail piece design and have the outside ONLY a credential reader and have the "guts" on the inside and use the existing HOLE as a passthrough for the wiring and have the lock/unlock ONLY on the inside

The weirdest part is how the "drain hole" is angled in such a way as to help facilitate this exploit.

@MechMK1

Жыл бұрын

The cynic in me says this was done on purpose, so that would-be locksmiths could easily sell entry, in case of an emergency. Remember that much of the "physical secuity" world still operates on a "security by obscurity" mindset.

@koresoteira447

Жыл бұрын

It's not, though. It's just a rectangular hole. LPL feeds the wire in at 45 degrees (corner to corner).

@Wishbone1977

Жыл бұрын

@@koresoteira447 It absolutely is. The hole itself is angled directly towards the spot the wire needs to go to. Watch it again, preferably in a decent resolution.

@nismo2070

Жыл бұрын

@@koresoteira447 If you pause the video around 4:35, you can see the cutout is angled directly towards the spot the wire needs to hit. It looks very intentional to me.

@xidarian

Жыл бұрын

There's also a gap in the mechanisms shielding. They covered most of the mechanism to prevent this kind of attack then left a small opening. It's gotta be on purpose

Lol. This channel is such a treasure trove of ingenious ways people find to pick locks. Even the unpickable ones. 😂

a 5 minute LPL vid? and he explained how the bypass worked? this is gold, guys.

@SpaceDr00ze

Жыл бұрын

5 minute vid only because he had to undo 38 screws 😂

@Keffr3n

Жыл бұрын

Half the time he showed how an electric screwdriver works :)))

@quokka_11

Жыл бұрын

Yeah he doesn't usually include so much screwing around.

"the more high tech a system is, the more vulnerable it is to a low tech attack" tom baker as dr. who

@Batmann_

Жыл бұрын

*Doctor Who

@carloseddy1005

11 ай бұрын

A hole below the mechanism is not high tech

@marzipancutter8144

11 ай бұрын

@@carloseddy1005 Yes, that's why it's called a low tech attack.

@Ren-ps6re

11 ай бұрын

@@marzipancutter8144 yeah it even gives plus frames (FGC joke)

@marzipancutter8144

11 ай бұрын

@@Ren-ps6re nice oki

The biggest flaw of all is that the part that does the unlocking is on the outside. On an electronic lock, in a good design, it should always be on the inside.

@TheFanatical1

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The bypass isn't hard to prevent (at least, you're trying to prevent non-destructive entry easy) but there's no fix for vulnerable components like that.

@pws3rd170

Жыл бұрын

Yep. The turning lever on the outside should be on a shaft all the way through the door that free spins, then put that solenoid inside

@troy3456789

Жыл бұрын

Drill a hole to the right of the drain hole (as seen from the rear). Put as long of a machine screw as you can in, with a nut on the inside, to prevent a wire from going straight to the opening. Test it; Add nuts if necessary.

@vakieh4381

Жыл бұрын

@@troy3456789 Now it can be opened with a bit of wire + a screwdriver. Easiest option is to just fill that void with tightly packed steel wool. It'll still drain water so you don't end up with a short after months or years outside collecting water, but it'll block that wire so long as it's packed tightly enough

@troy3456789

Жыл бұрын

@@vakieh4381 I'm thinking the nut on the inside will turn if you use a screwdriver from the outside. A nylock (locking nut) would help too. The idea is to cause the wire to divert to the wrong angle. (Hole drilled on the side of where the wire goes up; not blocking the important drain hole) Steel wool seems messy and won't stop a stiff wire like what he used in my opinion.

I'm pretty sure if you complain to building management, some poor maintenance person will have to go around with a tube of JB Weld putty and just put a little bit in every drain. I'd imagine the warranty claims department at Schlage is going to be unimpressed with you for this 😂 EDIT People, drilling a hole, chipping it away, etc is a destructive entry and leaves evidence. That's beyond the scope. Is blocking the drain hole like I suggested ideal? No. But the correct solution is to dismount every latch and do an internal modification, which is probably more than most maintenance departments want to get into

@jsmith5443

Жыл бұрын

That would work great

@veryboringname.

Жыл бұрын

@@SunriseLAW If the inside is all plugged up, a thin piece of wire is going to take a very long time to chip through it all. Alternatively, jb weld a small piece of metal like a grub screw at just the right spot.

@1A-Audits

Жыл бұрын

5-minute epoxy a small metal strip on the inside of the thing, permanently covering/blocking the drain hole.

@skoparweaver7692

Жыл бұрын

@@SunriseLAW You weren't using it right then. I've repaired all sorts of parts with jb weld. o2 bungs on an exhaust manifold only worked temporarily, but the fix still last 2-3 months when I allowed the plug to cure for only 5-6 hrs. On key fobs, lamp bases in industrial settings, workshop fixes, autobody repairs etc the stuff cures so consistently to the substrate that getting them to separate is basically impossible.

@Mr.Sparks.173

Жыл бұрын

Which works till water makes its way in and submerge the electronics. A better solution would to install it so that it's recessed and flush mounted in the wall, preventing all access to the drain plug while also allowing it to drain if need be

Thank you for your educational and security awareness content. I have been avoiding going wireless at home for other reasons and this just fortifies my reasoning. Guess still the best option is to have a couple of high-end locks just so it would take longer for the intruders to get in.

I worked security at a high end apartment complex, one of the residents asked me to switch their FOB from a card to a key chain. When I went into the system I found out that this resident had FULL ACCESS to every single room in the building. The minimum wage security guard who set up the FOB accidently selected Master Key status instead of Resident.

The “drain hole” is actually angled towards the mechanism that unlocks it so it’s easier to get something in there to unlock it. After this video, price for the whole lock kit is going to be on sale for $19.99 and infomercials at 2 am 😂🤣

@oOdOdY75Oo

Жыл бұрын

Bahahahaha

@littlekong7685

Жыл бұрын

But wait! There's More! Buy 1 lock, get a second lock FREE! and as a special TV only offer if you call in the next 125 minutes, get a free bottle of epoxy seal to stop the exploit for only a $1.99. But wait! There's More!... ...Tiny super fast legalese text scroll with a fast voice over explaining shipping costs and no liability if the lock is picked....

@sgt.bonkers8706

Жыл бұрын

you know, doesn't sound like a drain hole at all. More like an intentional backdoor for security experts or those that glow in the dark.

@FuncleChuck

Жыл бұрын

Nah, anyone who knows will just fill the hole with epoxy, and anyone who doesn’t know wouldn’t be replacing/selling these.

@kii1377

Жыл бұрын

I would assume because of the shape of the hole and the slit that allows the wire to reach the inner part that is is actually a "feature" that allows the lock to be opened with a special tool e.g. when the battery is empty or the key card broken.

LPL’s most unneeded line ‘let’s just show you again to prove it wasn’t a fluke.’ Never seen LPL open a lock and think, that was lucky. Keep up the great work. Love watching your videos

@VergilArcanis

Жыл бұрын

some people who are skeptical might

@Celediev

Жыл бұрын

@@taumag5884 Actually he is aware of the fact that too long form content does not do too well currently, so no, padding the video time is not a reason. It's actually to prevent people who might claim he is reshooting the video over and over until he is truely fast just a single time. Doing it a second time in a row with relatively equal speed shows that there is at least some sort of consistency to what he presents in the video.

@TheSolitaryEye

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's because you didn't make one of the locks featured in one of his videos, but hurt butts find a way to soothe the sting and "lucky" is the easiest call when your $500 lock fails to a wire in 5 seconds.

@WralthChardiceVideo

Жыл бұрын

You can see it as the first line of defense against lockmakers that think they are onto something by calling it a fluke

I enjoyed the video! It came in handy when a tenant didn’t let us know about the low battery status and tried it. Worked like a charm

If I ever own something that I want no one to ever touch, you're the guy i'm going to call.

LPL's dedication to doing his videos in one take is impressive. It is especially obvious in this video.

@softweir

Жыл бұрын

I agree! I have for a long time been impressed at how very professional his videos are. Of course, one would hope that a court lawyer who practised in commercial litigation would be able to do a clear, professional presentation in "one take"; judges aren't impressed if a court lawyer asks for a do-over!

@GigaBoost

Жыл бұрын

That's just laziness lol

@greywinter24

Жыл бұрын

His dedication to refuse to learn video editing. Respect, too complicated for me as well. Also makes it harder to accuse him of faking stuff I suppose

@stinkyballsmeller

Жыл бұрын

@@GigaBoost It's to maintain integrity, or at the very least, prove without a shadow of a doubt that he isn't manipulating any of the locks when he reviews them. It's also why he often picks locks multiple times, to prove his success wasn't a fluke. The benefit of being allowed to be lazy is just a nice bonus.

@rioikhtiar24

Жыл бұрын

@@stinkyballsmeller Agreed

Holy crap! This one is huge. I can see lawsuits if Schlage doesn't bring out a retrofit kit to block where the wire slips between the guard and the screw post. Wow, when a company like Schlage misses such an obvious exploit for years on such a critical product, Master Lock doesn't look so bad any longer.

@rmyers99

Жыл бұрын

All I can think of is some guy with Autocad running designing that housing and being told "there needs to be a drain hole" and then saying "but then someone can stick a piece of metal up there and bypass the lock". And an argument ensuing in which the engineer tries to take a stand, but the product manager is like "overruled" and then the guy just says fuck it and goes to lunch.

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Imagine the anonymous tipper was master lock themselves lol

@constantinosschinas4503

Жыл бұрын

It is on purpose. The slot is even diagonal to facilitate the pathway. It is just a hidden bypass feature, like CD players have lol.

@BL-yj2wp

Жыл бұрын

@@rmyers99 Nah, it's the engineerings fault in this case. The stamped steel piece is supposed to be shielding against this exploit (after they forgot that in the casting), but they chose the one manufacturing technique that wouldn't actually work because the radius they need for the srew hole leaves this one hole through which LPL could fit the wire. Had this shield been made any other way (molded plastic for example) it would have worked. Should instead have made the actuator that sees machanical load out of steel.

@fuzzyfuzzyfungus

Жыл бұрын

@@BL-yj2wp I'll certainly never bet against cost reduction; but my assumption was that the plastic component was plastic, in surroundings that were mostly metallic, because that's one way to keep otherwise trivial magnetic manipulation from being an issue. Probably not a coincidence that plastic, rather than one of the more expensive nonferrous metals, was chosen for the job; but still a questionable place for steel.

They just installed this lock on my front door today, 1/11/24. My lock has a very robust metal grille just inside the drainage hole to prevent anything from being shoved up inside it. I even mentioned this specific video to the maintenance guy and installer. They were well-aware of the old issue and Schlage has specifically addressed it with the newer locks. As a side note, if anyone is worried about being locked out in case of power outage, the lock has internal power supply with 4 AA batteries. It is supposed to give ample warning when the batteries are getting low, but we shall see about that. The 2 round contact spots you see on the bottom front on the lock are in case the batteries do die. A 9 volt battery can be used by you or maintenance to give the lock enough juice to temporarily regain functionality, but will not open the lock without the usual FOB verification.

this mans the real mvp, not only showing us what locks are cheap and crappy but showing us why they're crappy and what to look for in a good lock

Actually terrifying there's attacks this easy on so many locks you might be "protected" by. Incredibly eye-opening.

@lyrlwestrum3971

Жыл бұрын

Security is almost always an illusion. It keeps honest people honest, but a determined invader will get in somehow.

@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3

Жыл бұрын

Repent to Jesus Christ “It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.” ‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭13‬:‭7‬ ‭NIV‬‬ H

@ElBandito

Жыл бұрын

@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 Wrong message you are sending. People do not react to demands of penance, they react more to messages of love. Stop talking from high position, and start talking from equal status.

@ShignBright

Жыл бұрын

@@ElBandito The message is entirely unrelated to the video. This is a spambot "spreading" the coder's beliefs however they can where it's unwanted and unneeded. I don't think it matters that they could be more efficient in how they spam.

@SpoopySquid

Жыл бұрын

​@@repentandbelieveinJesusChrist3 no

Me: "Oh, a 5 minute video! Maybe this has something interesting or obscure going on?" LPL: spends half the video just showing us how to disassemble the lock. Me: "Well played, sir."

@MythicalBeats997

Жыл бұрын

And you know he’s not doing it for Ad revenue because he doesn’t put ads on these

Hey there, maintenance technician here. That "Drainhole" might not really be a Drainhole but an access point. We use those on electrical boxes on Lage machines. Normally, you can't open then without turning it off, but if you jam a small hexkey or a thin piece of wire into the access hole on the main power switch, you can turn it without actually turning the machine off My theory is that in this case, it's here if the lock has, say, a malfunction and doesn't read any outside info. A locksmith or a maintenance personel might be able to open it up in case of this happening that way. Better to have a hidden access point than to have to tear down the doors if someone gets locked out of their room

I’d love to see a review of the Schlage Encode Plus!

If you look closely to that drain hole, it has an angle pointing directly on that plastic block, as if it WAS designed for that exact purpose of bypassing lock mechanism.

@zuttoaragi8349

Жыл бұрын

Several other commenters have pointed out it was probably added as a bypass for when the electronic systems fail

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Now the secret has been leaked!

@constantinosschinas4503

Жыл бұрын

it was.

@inisipisTV

Жыл бұрын

@@zuttoaragi8349 - Most likely, but it is a very terrible bypass system when even the most unskilled thief can easily learn this, or get it to open accidentally by a little prodding. Much better to just add a good secondary bypass keyhole if the electronic shorted.

@zuttoaragi8349

Жыл бұрын

@@inisipisTV Oh fully agreed. I'm only explaining it, not at all defending it. I'm certain there's a better way to make a bypass.

In 5 seconds the Schlage Pick Proof lock has precipitously dropped in price and is now on bargain sale.

@Spiker985Studios

Жыл бұрын

I'll get several stat! Put a gasket on the mating surfaces, seal up the drain hole, seems like it's still a pretty good lock

@deedoubs

Жыл бұрын

@@Spiker985Studios Even if you seal the drain hole it's still a critical design flaw and your seal can be mitigated very quickly and with minimal notice using a dremel most likely.

@jwhite5008

Жыл бұрын

@@Spiker985Studios Until you realize it probably has about 3 million digital security holes as well...

@jasonriddell

Жыл бұрын

@@Spiker985Studios just need something inside around the mounting boss in the lower right corner and leave the drain intact

@Spiker985Studios

Жыл бұрын

@@deedoubs I mean, most would be thieves are going to be looking for easy targets. I don't know about you, but I don't have an electrical outlet near my front door. The only secure thing to do is to confuse the hell out of would-be thieves - otherwise you're just trying to be marginally more secure than your neighbor. If they *really* want that stuff, they're just gonna cause damage and nab it anyway

There stock just plummeted 😮 .. great video 👍

I admire people that believe "security" is good for anything more than keeping honest people honest.

Never in ten years would I have ever thought I'd watch lockpick vids for fun yet here we are.

@phattjohnson

Жыл бұрын

You type alright for a ten year old.

@SnowMexicann

Жыл бұрын

@@phattjohnson Bro he didnt say he was ten he said never in ten years, so ten years into the future 😭

@MongooseTacticool

Жыл бұрын

Move on to penetrative testing videos and Deviant Ollum teaching you how to fold fitted sheets 😂😊

@SnowMexicann

Жыл бұрын

@@Jake420 Yes, it is, hes saying that he would have never thought from now till ten years in the future he'd watch lockpick videos for fun but he is now. Also the sobbing emoji doesnt mean Im actually crying, its used in this context as a way to say "bro what is this/what are you saying/bruh"

Imagine LPL checking into a hotel: Desk clerk - "You are in room 420, let me get your key . . ." LPL - "That won't be necessary."

@Steamrick

Жыл бұрын

He *is* a Lawyer, so he'd always let them give him the key for deniable plausibility

I swear LPL’s power level grows with every lock he opens, mf opening things with a wire now

“Anonymous viewer” Honestly it’s just great to see LPL protecting his clients 😂

I install locks a couple dozen times a year. I always point people to LPL if they ask for an opinion on any given lock. The lock of horror as they watch the video is amazing.

It's like the exhaust port on the Death Star.

@frenchyroastify

Жыл бұрын

I can just now imagine the Schlage CEO furiously spinning around in his tie fighter in the cold vastness of space.

Nothin is unpickable when you're smart enough

My building in NYC had relatively secure Mul-T locks/deadbolts for years... Then 6 months ago the management co. decided to put something just like this on all our doors.. without an option. I actually went to the office to complain saying they were ridiculously unsafe but they didn't want to hear it. Too bad this video wasn't out then.

If you look at the drain hole, it's even angled towards the screw post where the wire travels up into the plastic block.

@NUeB_net

Жыл бұрын

That's why it looks more like a backdoor than a design flaw to me.

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

What do they say if you're locked out?

@constantinosschinas4503

Жыл бұрын

exactly. it is made to have this way of opening.

@BL-yj2wp

Жыл бұрын

You might actually be right. But honestly, that only makes it worse.

@MiccaPhone

Жыл бұрын

It is most definitely an intended backdoor, not a design flaw.

I picked my first lock last night because of your channel! I should add, it was one of my locks, not a neighbor's door. :)

@SpaceCadet4Jesus

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, sure Mark. We're sending the FBI right over. You probably tore off that mattress tag too. Federal offenses. You'll be going away for a long time. 😅

@dranorter

Жыл бұрын

As LPL says in some videos, don't pick locks that are in use, as there is some chance you will break it. (On the other hand, some people like to simply stop using their apartment key and lockpick their way in every day. So really, do what you want.)

@dranorter

Жыл бұрын

@@chaoticneutral6288 Fair criticism. The only lockpicking enthusiast I know does it, no idea if anyone else does.

It’s not a drain whole, because it is sloped in the direction the wire needs to aim. It is a bypass, like the one designed into interior lock sets for bedrooms and bathrooms; so the lock can be breached in case of an emergency or accidental lockout. In the scenarios where this lock would be used, it circumvents lockout due to a dead battery. Likewise, the internal gap next to the screw is intentional. That is where I would block the intrusion, if I preferred to cut a hole in the door or wall when the unit is faulty or the battery dies. What this unit needs is an ability to connect an external power source, like induction with no holes, when the battery dies.

I've got an electronic door lock. No key hole, no picking. Electronics completely on inner door side, the mechanic coupling of outer door knob is done completely on inner door side. That's a good mechanical design.

right at 4:10 where he says "you turn the wire", that wire is passing over a perfectly placed recess in that inner metal bracket. between that and the way the "drain hole" is angled perfectly to feed the wire right where it needs to go, this _has_ to be a deliberate feature not a bug

@ikuma8291

Жыл бұрын

would it be dumb to assume that its a "secret" way for a lockpicker that specializes in these locks to get it open if the owners lose their credentials to open it?

@kasper_429

Жыл бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking. This has to be intended, although they meant it to only be known to locksmiths and security personnel so that they can let people into their apartments. It was definitely not intended to go beyond professionals/intended people.

@mikeymike9926

Жыл бұрын

@@kasper_429 that’s the issue, it’s like having a master code that’s the same for every safe of a particular model. Those out of the loop won’t know but the second information breaks out it’s just free hunting.

@Yora21

Жыл бұрын

@@kasper_429 But that's not how security works. It takes one person to know the secret to share it maliciously or accidentally and the whole security falls away.

@mrgilbe1

Жыл бұрын

​@Kyle White it's also something that looks relatively easy to deduce if you disassemble this lock and look for weaknesses in its design

I’ve been able to break into numerous apartments and houses thanks to this guys videos. Keep up the great work

It’s crazy the quality of these brands. I feel safe for not having locks.

@dcentral

Жыл бұрын

That’s what happens when pool of qualified engineers who can design locks keeps shrinking and brands only rely on their legacy brand names to market products to mass consumer.

@E1nsty

Жыл бұрын

naked man fears no pickpocket

@Heynmffc

Жыл бұрын

Locks keep honest people out tbh

@TrevorMoses312

Жыл бұрын

@@E1nsty 😂😂😂😂😂

@andregon4366

Жыл бұрын

​@@E1nsty LEGO bricks though...

Ill just lock my door with a medieval style barred door lock

LPL: "Hey, honey, how's college going?" LPD: "Great, dad! They just upgraded our dorm locks to these fancy new smart locks." LPL: "I'll be right there 😐"

@chillbixbrother4324

Жыл бұрын

Lol, Lock Picking Daughter

@sudokode

Жыл бұрын

😆

@WinLuTv

Жыл бұрын

Lmao

@conArtistAUS

11 ай бұрын

Nice assumption LPL's partner is in College

@not490

11 ай бұрын

@@conArtistAUS His partner is his daughter? Dude, you watch too much porno.

My father was a carpenter and was hired to fix a door to a house that was broken into. When he arrived, he found the door with about 4 deadbolt locks still locked, however the thieves had just removed the outer casing and pulled the door, still in it's jambs, right out of the building, set the door and jambs next to the house, and walked in. Your locks are only as good as the jambs in which the door is mounted. Front door jambs need to thick and set into the house frame with large nails, though bolts are better.

@edward1927

Жыл бұрын

You could just take a sawzall to the bolts, or just break a window. Locks just keep honest people honest.

@vwbug1975

Жыл бұрын

@@edward1927 You could just take a sawsall to the wall next to the door. After all, it;s just some vinyl or aluminum siding, a sheet of OSB or plywood, some 2x4s, and a sheet of drywall. My dad told me a robbery he saw on the news where the burglars used a cordless circular saw and just cut the wall open.

@jacobvogeley2621

Жыл бұрын

​@@vwbug1975 granted that's an issue bricks would solve alas not the way Americans like to build houses

@kenbellis5376

Жыл бұрын

I had a mountain side cell site to work on and the Supra dead bolt had a dead battery on the door. Hinges were outside and just popped the pins and in we go.

@thefez-cat

Жыл бұрын

Generally speaking, you don't have a lot of thieves showing up to your front door with power tools and looking to saw through the wall for the obvious reason that it's not worth the time, effort, and risk to do something you can accomplish by just kicking the door in.

This worked. My apartment maintenance staff hasn’t been answering all day. Took my problem to the LPL

if i ever move into a dormitory for a while, and i hear LPL say "lets do it one more time so you can see its not a fluke" im just gonna jump out of the window lmfao

"I can open this in just a few seconds with nothing but a thin piece of wire" Now we can debate the meaning, but "open using only a thin piece of wire" seems like a decent definition of "picking" to me.

@toportime

Жыл бұрын

technically it is a bypass tool, not a pick. He didn't pick the lock, he bypassed the credential needs.

Great work unlocking this flaw

I was waiting for the mention of the drill/driver: ‘And this drill is part of the Genesis’ set that I sell on Covert Instruments…’

@dreamvisionary

Жыл бұрын

😂

@JerryWilliam63

Жыл бұрын

Or the wire.

@ricks6192

Жыл бұрын

@@JerryWilliam63 So i'll take this wire that Bosnian Bill and I made...

as someone whose line of work had me operating locks from the same brand, though not that particular model, for cleaning work... they're built for maintenance crews to be able to pop them open easily. All you need is to know the trick to it, and all that requires is human error (or misplaced trust, or greed, or malice, or enough digging). Any lock with electronics inside is going to be accessible to workers, and therefore, anyone

u can expect any door be opened up by this guy

A documentary length LPL video, nice

@LHJC10

Жыл бұрын

Was expecting the magnet, but nope it’s worse

@JurrevanHerwijnen

Жыл бұрын

@@LHJC10 he did have me in the first half.. I wasn't expected the drainhole exploit.

@boneav83

Жыл бұрын

@@LHJC10 Soon enough, LPL will show us a lock you can either shake to unlock or just turn upside down. It will be made by Master lock obviously.

100% Pick Proof. Not 100% paperclip proof.

For that price point, they could put a little more space between the drain hole and the plunger point and make a maze where a wire can't go through but water can drain.

This is not a "design flaw" but a deliberate safety bypass fuse.

YOu know what i love from your videos? They have it all. All the content, the "introduction", the "development" and the "conclusion". You show all it has to be showed. AND THEY ONLY LAST FOR 5 MINUTES. Thats F awesome.

@the_kombinator

Жыл бұрын

Sorry about your attention span.

@SibrenFetter

11 ай бұрын

​@@the_kombinator I am sorry for your lack in reading and understanding skills. Hara is clearly impressed how much content and story the LPL gets into only 5 minutes (which I agree with is impressive). Hara does not state anywhere a maximum attention span of minutes nor is that implied.

@squ1dd13

8 ай бұрын

@@SibrenFetteri like this

This must've been an intentional back door into this lock. The drain hole is in perfect alignment for this exploit.

For all their claims, Schlage is still a low end brand. Their products are usually Builder Grade, meaning you find them on your new house when you move in.

@ineedmorecarrots6063

8 ай бұрын

For a $300 "low end" lock im not expecting it to be unlocked easily by a thin wire

You should make a video that explains how the real "unpickable" lock would be built or operate🤘 I think that would show you knowledge pretty well😇

I think if I lived in a large apartment building with these locks, I would be tempted to unlock all the doors and leave them open to get everyone to pressure the management to do something about these locks.

@davidtorgersen3309

Жыл бұрын

My appartment just switched away from these locks.

@Merennulli

Жыл бұрын

Just put a sticky note on each of the locks with a link to this video. A lot easier and less risk of some neighbor not understanding your intentions and calling the police (or worse).

@bjorncmadsen

Жыл бұрын

Good way to get shot if you ask me. I'm a locksmith paid to unlock doors, it's smart not to take this skill lightly.

@sometimesleela5947

Жыл бұрын

@Merennuli: With the sticky note on the inside of the door.

@mattstorm360

Жыл бұрын

@@Merennulli A QR code, get with the times.

What's stunning is why the whole mechanism isn't in the back leaving only the inductance antena and the knob in the outside part. They left it like that on purpose.

great stuff

The drain hole is where the credibility of the company flows out. They even angled the drain hole towards the sneaky corner.

@Kaynos

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like they did it on purpose.

@six8810

Жыл бұрын

we are not fools that's a backdoor for sure

@KernelLeak

Жыл бұрын

It's not as if water cares if the hole is angled or not - and a simple barrier over the drain hole and under the plastic bit (so that any water would flow around it) could have prevented this...

4:09 that security flaw is entirely because that's a stamped piece of metal. I can see that there was clearance made for when the round segment got bent down in the press. If it was a solid piece of material there would be no gap for the wire to fit through.

@HarveyDangerLurker

Жыл бұрын

Jeez. That is insane how bad this exploit is.

@ergohack

Жыл бұрын

One solution would have been to just extend the length of the guard piece so it could be bent 180° at the end to block off the opening left by the screw tab.

@Kumquat_Lord

Жыл бұрын

@@HarveyDangerLurker it's just a part of the manufacturing process. Stamped parts are cheap when you need hundreds of thousands of them, and regrettably you need clearances built in for it to work.

@NicosM51

Жыл бұрын

The whole design is very weak for a 300 dollar product. One can just drill a little hole at the bottom until they see some plastic shavings and then easily manipulate the lock with any stick that fit through the hole.

@basv458

Жыл бұрын

@@NicosM51 at that point your leaving evidence that there is tampered with the lock. You might as well smash the door in by then

Judging from the way that "drain hole" is cut into the case, I'd say it is intended to be a deliberate "superintendent's bypass". With no key there is no master key... a failed lock has to have some means of bypass to prevent total loss of access to secured areas.

I appreciate the instructions to block the drain hole in the short term for those managers up a creek.

LPL- See this electronic lock? Can you guess how we open this electronic lock? Schlage- The key fob, use the key fob! LPL- That's right, we use the drain hole! Schlage- *starts having a panic attack*

the way the hole is angled in 4:08 makes me believe, that this is actually intended to work that way.. think about the scenario, where the lock is actually not opening due to technical reasons or because the owner lost his/hers access - that hole would make it possible to open up the lock without destroying the whole door.. that being said: I think thats a horrible way to ensure pickability, when its so easy to do and the lock claims to be unpickable

@shapowlow

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Yup. They purposely added a gap for this to work. It's an easy fix if they really wanted to, just close the damn gap and this bypass is out the window.

@chabosmulm

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@@shapowlow I agree, but then again how would they open up the lock if lets say the chip is malfunctioning or if there is any other technical issue..? They would have to install some sort of mechanical safety mechanism or concede pickabilty entirely, which should be communicated to the customer.

@shapowlow

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@@chabosmulm yup. i hope it's mentioned in the manual that came with the product so the customers have the choice to purposely close the hole if they want to.

To block without disassbly, use a straightened paper clip to stuff the drain hole with as much string that will fit, pushing it toward the left side to fill the path the wire would take. Won't harm the lock in any way.